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Old 5th November 2009, 08:08 AM   #1
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Jesus Appears In Truck Window!!

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JOHNSON CITY, Tenn. – Jim Stevens said he's not particularly religious and is clueless about why an image resembling Jesus Christ keeps appearing on his pickup. Stevens, of Jonesborough, said nearly every morning, an image that looks to him like the face of Jesus Christ has appeared in the condensation on the driver's side window of his Isuzu truck. A Johnson City Press photo of the truck showed a facial image.

Stevens said when he first saw the image, he figured it would evaporate and not return. But it kept reappearing for two weeks now.

Stevens said folks at the grocery store he goes to were amazed to see the image.

He said he isn't going to wash the truck for a while.
It looks more like Lemmy to me.
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Old 5th November 2009, 08:43 AM   #2
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Definitely trumps the baby with Islamic verses on its legs. God, what a prankster!
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I'll bet it would really shatter those folks to learn that nobody has the slightest idea what Jesus looked like.
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No photos of Jesus?!

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Antifog lens cleaner. If I remember correctly, writing on a mirror with glycerol will produce secret message only seen when the mirror is fogged. Of course, the news media, nor the pickup owner, will ever try to figure out who drew it.
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Thats a pretty crisp image - like someone used a template and sprayed anti-fog on the window.

ETA: D'oh! Just as Olowkow points out.
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Old 5th November 2009, 11:10 AM   #7
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I'll bet it would really shatter those folks to learn that nobody has the slightest idea what Jesus looked like.
Imagine how they would feel if they realized that he probably looked more like Osama bin Laden than Willem DaFoe.
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Originally Posted by madurobob View Post
Thats a pretty crisp image - like someone used a template and sprayed anti-fog on the window.

ETA: D'oh! Just as Olowkow points out.
It comes in a spray bottle also. Jesus templates extra.
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Originally Posted by Olowkow View Post
It comes in a spray bottle also. Jesus templates extra.
I'd be willing to bet sometime in the past month or so he's paid someone to clean his truck and this was their version of the mint hotel housekeepers leave on pillows.
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Could we be seeing the beginning of the most successful hoax since the crop circle?
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Damn good hoax in my book.
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Originally Posted by Towlie View Post
Could we be seeing the beginning of the most successful hoax since the crop circle?
Yes, as soon as I figure out how to work this slim jim...

I'm thinking mysterious appearances of verses from the Koran in a few cars at the local mega-church.
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Old 5th November 2009, 02:38 PM   #14
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Originally Posted by madurobob View Post
Yes, as soon as I figure out how to work this slim jim...

I'm thinking mysterious appearances of verses from the Koran in a few cars at the local mega-church.
With a pic of Sarah Palin! Now you're talking!
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Originally Posted by madurobob View Post
Yes, as soon as I figure out how to work this slim jim...

I'm thinking mysterious appearances of verses from the Koran in a few cars at the local mega-church.

No need for a break-in. The condensate's on the outside.

I'm thinking Frank Zappa. The ancestry is right, and he's more deserving of reverence.

The possibility that he might be mistaken for a more ... divine (?) figure would only add to the irony.

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Old 5th November 2009, 03:36 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by quadraginta View Post
No need for a break-in. The condensate's on the outside.
Really?

Not in my cars, not usually. Usually it is too many people breathing in the car on a cool day, or too many steaming pizzas picked up on the way home, or something like that. But, maybe I've just not been paying attention (or maybe I have rain-x on all my outside glass so I never notice).

Anway, it would be a lot easier to tag the outside glass!
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Originally Posted by madurobob View Post
Really?

Not in my cars, not usually. Usually it is too many people breathing in the car on a cool day, or too many steaming pizzas picked up on the way home, or something like that. But, maybe I've just not been paying attention (or maybe I have rain-x on all my outside glass so I never notice).

Anway, it would be a lot easier to tag the outside glass!
Rain-X is good.

After the vehicle is occupied the dynamics change. If you're in the habit of keeping your venting on recirculate then changing it to exterior air will make a big difference. All that inside moisture is coming from the occupants, and recirculate leaves no way for it to get out.

Depending on the vehicle, running your AC can make a difference. Some automatically do that when you set to defrost.

Anyhow, the 'mornin' dew' or 'the frost on the punkin' is out there on all the cars in the morning, too.
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Old 5th November 2009, 04:36 PM   #18
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Rain-X is good.

After the vehicle is occupied the dynamics change. If you're in the habit of keeping your venting on recirculate then changing it to exterior air will make a big difference. All that inside moisture is coming from the occupants, and recirculate leaves no way for it to get out.

Depending on the vehicle, running your AC can make a difference. Some automatically do that when you set to defrost.
Yup, AC is the trick. Recirc or not makes little difference in my cars most of the time (used to in my little civic), but the AC clears away the fog in a second or two.

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Anyhow, the 'mornin' dew' or 'the frost on the punkin' is out there on all the cars in the morning, too.
I must confess, I work from home so my morning commute is from the bedroom to the study. The Mrs takes the kids to school, so I haven't seen the inside - or outside - of a car early in the morning in ages.

So, I'm going to make a template and try it on the Mrs' car first to see if she notices. If it works, I'm going on a window cleaning spree. First a few cars in the church parking lot as mentioned, then in January a bunch of UNC logos on cars in parking lots of that silly little seminary in Durham.
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So, I'm going to make a template and try it on the Mrs' car first to see if she notices. If it works, I'm going on a window cleaning spree. First a few cars in the church parking lot as mentioned, then in January a bunch of UNC logos on cars in parking lots of that silly little seminary in Durham.

Are ya gonna use Frank?
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Oh, he does that all the time.

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Wow. I lived in Johnson City, TN for two years. It's about an hour and a half from my home town (which in a rural area, isn't very far at all.)

It really doesn't surprise me. Johnson City, TN is right on the fringes of the Appalachian Mountains (Aka, the belt-buckle of the Bible Belt). It does make me a little sad that this is the first thing I see as far as any national coverage of the area. Better than a murder, I do suppose.

I haven't seen anything on the local news station (I'm sure I've just missed it), but I'll see if any of my friends in JC saw anything about it in the newspaper. Either way, I may have to go take a trip down there to see this / perfectly miraculous event. /sarcasm.
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No need for a break-in. The condensate's on the outside.

I'm thinking Frank Zappa. The ancestry is right, and he's more deserving of reverence.

The possibility that he might be mistaken for a more ... divine (?) figure would only add to the irony.

http://www.puppiesandflowers.com/blo...frankZappa.jpg
His grave is unmarked. Maybe this is why!
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Originally Posted by quadraginta View Post
No need for a break-in. The condensate's on the outside.

I'm thinking Frank Zappa. The ancestry is right, and he's more deserving of reverence.

The possibility that he might be mistaken for a more ... divine (?) figure would only add to the irony.

http://www.puppiesandflowers.com/blo...frankZappa.jpg

He's got twenty million dollars
In his Heavenly Bank Account . . .
All from those chumps who was
Born again

He's got seven limousines
And a private plane . . .
All for the use of his
Special Friends

He's got thousand-dollar suits
And a Wembley Tie . . .
Girls love to stroke it
While he's on the phone

At the House of Representatives
He's a groovy guy . . .
When he Gives Thanks
He is not alone . . .

He is dealin'
He is really dealin'
IRS can't determine
Where The Hook is

It is easy with the Bible
To pretend that
You're in Show Biz
(And a-one, and a-two, and a . . . )

They won't get him
They will never get him
For the naughty stuff
That he did

It is best in cases like this
To pretend that
You are stupid


He's got Presidential Help
All along the way
He says the grace
While the lawyers chew
Oh yeah
They sure do

And the Governors agree to say
"He's a lovely man!"
He makes it easier for
Them to screw
All of you
Yes that's true

'Cause he helps put The Fear of God
In the Common Man
Snatchin' up money
Everywhere he can

He's got twenty million dollars
In his Heavenly Bank Account
You ain't got nothin', people
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Yes, as soon as I figure out how to work this slim jim...

I'm thinking mysterious appearances of verses from the Koran in a few cars at the local mega-church.
Tempting. Very tempting.
But- won't the faithful believe its the Devil's handicraft or that of some hapless immigrant and opt for a stompin'?
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My dad once took a shower and saw, in clear english, the words "Trust Jesus" on the mirror. He was rather shocked, so he showed my mother and brother. As it turned out, my brother, who was around 4 at the time, had climbed up on the counter and written the words in shaving cream. After that incident, dad started covering the bathroom mirror with shaving cream because it is such an effective fog blocker
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Tempting. Very tempting.
But- won't the faithful believe its the Devil's handicraft or that of some hapless immigrant and opt for a stompin'?
Actually, I'm pretty sure they'll have no idea how to read Arabic. So, if they're curious, they'll find someone who can (plenty enough at the various nearby universities). How they'll react when they realize it is from the Koran is anybody's guess. But at least at that point they will have involved someone else.
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Antifog lens cleaner. If I remember correctly, writing on a mirror with glycerol will produce secret message only seen when the mirror is fogged. Of course, the news media, nor the pickup owner, will ever try to figure out who drew it.
No need to. They "know".
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This is a sooper blown-up version of the pic in the OP. I've made no other changes than a crop and enlarge.




There are obvious jpeg artefacts, of course, but there is also a faint repeating "shadow", or echo, to the right of the Jeebus head.

I believe that the Jeebus head was pasted into the image and whatever was originally on the window was erased after the paste instead of before it.

The result is that the erasing, probably done with a 'clone' tool, started too close to the edge of the main image and accidentally cloned part of it.


I have another theory . . .

On staring at the damn thing for too long, it seems to me that they might have copied whatever was on the window, enhanced it and pasted it back, but they still hadn't erased either the original blob or perhaps an earlier attempt that didn't work out.

I believe I can see the faint remainder of a completely different Jeebus head to the right of the main one, but I acknowledge that at least some pareidolia is involved in this analysis.

In either of the above scenarios, my conclusion is that it's a shoop.


Other posters should be able to duplicate my result with basic software by cropping the original image to the same area that I have, and resizing the image to 600 pixels wide, maintaining the original width/height ratio.
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Bump for comments 'cos I hate having stuff going asserted and unchallenged.

Especially if the source is a bit dodgy.

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Bump for comments 'cos I hate having stuff going asserted and unchallenged.

Especially if the source is a bit dodgy.

Definitely cool that you found the other face on the window.

Too bad we don't have more/better pics to examine. I keep wondering how he showed the folks at the grocery store. He drove there with no view out that window? Why is the dew so heavy on the vertical windows, but none on the metal? It looked like it was pretty sunny and warm (shirt sleeves) in the picture, etc. Just too many unanswered questions.
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Old 8th November 2009, 08:11 AM   #35
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Couldn't agree more with your last statement.

I'd never assert one thing or another with any certainty on such a poor single image.
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Old 8th November 2009, 08:26 AM   #36
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Originally Posted by Akhenaten View Post
Couldn't agree more with your last statement.

I'd never assert one thing or another with any certainty on such a poor single image.
Agreed. This could easily be shopped, or just as easily created with a practiced application of anti-fog. The image quality is so poor there is no way to know from just the image.
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Old 8th November 2009, 08:31 AM   #37
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Originally Posted by madurobob View Post
Agreed. This could easily be shopped, or just as easily created with a practiced application of anti-fog. The image quality is so poor there is no way to know from just the image.

That's the important part.

Have you tried it yet?
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Old 8th November 2009, 12:58 PM   #38
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Originally Posted by Olowkow View Post
Definitely cool that you found the other face on the window.

Too bad we don't have more/better pics to examine. I keep wondering how he showed the folks at the grocery store. He drove there with no view out that window? Why is the dew so heavy on the vertical windows, but none on the metal? It looked like it was pretty sunny and warm (shirt sleeves) in the picture, etc. Just too many unanswered questions.
There is dew on the metal above and behind the window. The plastic cover on the back doesn't have any dew on it. The man is wearing a shirt with sleeves rolled up, so it may be that it was a cool night that then warmed up (such as would produce condensation). There are pretty significant shadows in the background, so the photo was probably taken between 9-11 in the morning.

I drove just last night with condensation on my window. If you know the area and you can see out the windshield, you don't need to clean the windows. Or, this may offer an explanation: When I roll down my window, it doesn't always contact the side in all places. Some spots get condensation wiped off and some don't.
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Looks like a copy of the Shroud of Turino to me ...
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Originally Posted by quadraginta View Post
That's the important part.

Have you tried it yet?
Got the anti-fog and made a template. I'll test it tomorrow and post pics soon.. assuming there is enough condensation in the AM.
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