Phone calls from loved ones onboard doomed flights? - Page 4

Dave Rogers · 1st December 2009, 12:59 AM

Originally Posted by Cl1mh4224rd

In fact, he may even be under the delusion that people involved in historical events are somehow behaviorally normal in all aspects.

That seems to be a basic tenet of the truther faith, actually. People in stressful circumstances always perceive events correctly, always recollect events accurately, and are capable of instantly carrying out complex engineering assessments to determine the causes of an unprecedented event. Unless, of course, those snap decisions and recollections disagree with the conspiracy theory, in which case they cannot possibly even be a lucky guess, and must therefore be the result of actors reading from a carefully prepared script. The idea that there can be any level of randomness and error in any event is automatically excluded from their thinking.

Dave

Scott Sommers · 1st December 2009, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by bill smith

If you believe the goovernment that is . Millions don't and more every day thank God.

I don't know why I post here anymore. The moronic ideas that some Truthers try to pass off as thinking...

Haven't we been through this one before? Now of course you can believe whatever you want, but sometimes things you believe are delusions - perhaps hallucinations.

Remember this thread? The one where I pointed out that no one attends Truther events.
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=154625
And there are millions and we are growing everyday. 911 Truth is the most divisive issue in the USA. It is splitting the nation. The USA is on the point of armed insurrection over 911 Truth blah, blah, blah, blah, blah...

Once again, how old are you?

Cl1mh4224rd · 1st December 2009, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by scott.in.taiwan

Once again, how old are you?

You need to be more specific: mentally or physically?

But seriously, my advice to you is to put bill smith on Ignore. He's quite possibly an "intentional idiot". Whether it's because he's simply trolling or because he's managed to delude himself, the result is the same. Engaging these types is pointless.

Another option is that he may be quite ill. Engaging these people is not just pointless, but less than honorable, in my opinion. The mentally ill don't require the continued stimulation of their illness; they require medical help.

Brattus · 1st December 2009, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by Cl1mh4224rd

You need to be more specific: mentally or physically?

But seriously, my advice to you is to put bill smith on Ignore. He's quite possibly an "intentional idiot". Whether it's because he's simply trolling or because he's managed to delude himself, the result is the same. Engaging these types is pointless.

Another option is that he may be quite ill. Engaging these people is not just pointless, but less than honorable, in my opinion. The mentally ill don't require the continued stimulation of their illness; they require medical help.

Good Post!!!

gumboot · 2nd December 2009, 01:26 AM

Originally Posted by Crazytimes

What about the fact that if I recall correctly, Mark Bingham wasn't actually supposed to be on that flight. He missed his flight. So they would have not known he was to be on flight 93 beforehand to be able to have his voice.

Am I remembering this correctly ?

Are you kidding me? You're talking about the NWO. They managed to fry two skyscrapers with nano-ants and a giant space laser hovering over the Horn of Africa (or something), you really think they can't get a live feed to an updated airline manifest? Please. Their year one recruits do that stuff in their sleep.

NutCracker · 2nd December 2009, 03:26 AM

Originally Posted by Cl1mh4224rd

You need to be more specific: mentally or physically?

But seriously, my advice to you is to put bill smith on Ignore. He's quite possibly an "intentional idiot". Whether it's because he's simply trolling or because he's managed to delude himself, the result is the same. Engaging these types is pointless.

Another option is that he may be quite ill. Engaging these people is not just pointless, but less than honorable, in my opinion. The mentally ill don't require the continued stimulation of their illness; they require medical help.

Seconded. To me bs comes across as an individual who is here to argue for the sake of arguing. "Arguing" meaning, "take issue with anything your opponents says." A certain Monty Python sketch comes to mind.

In my view there is little point in debating bs. His pr value for the TM is naught. There is nothing to be learned from countering his recycled nonsense.

The only justifiable reason for not having him on ignore is being able to view his avatar.

I put him on ignore some time ago; it was like switching off a diesel engine in the living room. Recommended.

Just save his avatar.

sylvan8798 · 2nd December 2009, 03:57 AM

Originally Posted by gumboot

Are you kidding me? You're talking about the NWO. They managed to fry two skyscrapers with nano-ants and a giant space laser hovering over the Horn of Africa (or something), you really think they can't get a live feed to an updated airline manifest? Please. Their year one recruits do that stuff in their sleep.

No, no, it was nano-termites, which are great because they are not only explosive, but they can be trained to go to the exact locations where they will be needed, and they are hard to spot with video cameras, thereby eliminating the need for lots of manpower and getting past security systems in order to set up a 110 acre building for demolition...

Gnu World Order · 2nd December 2009, 06:24 AM

Originally Posted by Cl1mh4224rd

But seriously, my advice to you is to put bill smith on Ignore.

Bravo!

Quote:

He's quite possibly an "intentional idiot".

Bingo!

carlitos · 2nd December 2009, 07:51 AM

Originally Posted by Gnu World Order

Bravo!

Bingo!

Thirded / Fourthed. Those that engage him really mess up the threads for me. No offense.

tfk · 2nd December 2009, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by commandlinegamer

I don't condone violence, but it would be instructive to see a truther tell a relative of one the 911 victims to their face that they're lying. No doubt, after recovering from the inevitable headbutt, the truther would just claim the resultant relative's tears were just nano-glycerine as used by actors.

CL,

I think that you are fundamentally wrong about this.

Tom

PS. There are times when you SHOULD condone violence.

1st December 2009, 12:59 AM	#121
Dave Rogers Bandaged ice that stampedes inexpensively through a scribbled morning waving necessary ankles Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: In a world lit only by fire. Posts: 17,894	Originally Posted by Cl1mh4224rd In fact, he may even be under the delusion that people involved in historical events are somehow behaviorally normal in all aspects. That seems to be a basic tenet of the truther faith, actually. People in stressful circumstances always perceive events correctly, always recollect events accurately, and are capable of instantly carrying out complex engineering assessments to determine the causes of an unprecedented event. Unless, of course, those snap decisions and recollections disagree with the conspiracy theory, in which case they cannot possibly even be a lucky guess, and must therefore be the result of actors reading from a carefully prepared script. The idea that there can be any level of randomness and error in any event is automatically excluded from their thinking. Dave
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1st December 2009, 05:40 PM	#122
Scott Sommers Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 3,642	Originally Posted by bill smith If you believe the goovernment that is . Millions don't and more every day thank God. I don't know why I post here anymore. The moronic ideas that some Truthers try to pass off as thinking... Haven't we been through this one before? Now of course you can believe whatever you want, but sometimes things you believe are delusions - perhaps hallucinations. Remember this thread? The one where I pointed out that no one attends Truther events. http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=154625 And there are millions and we are growing everyday. 911 Truth is the most divisive issue in the USA. It is splitting the nation. The USA is on the point of armed insurrection over 911 Truth blah, blah, blah, blah, blah... Once again, how old are you?
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1st December 2009, 06:38 PM	#124
Brattus Graduate Poster Join Date: May 2007 Location: The bowels of death and despair Posts: 1,223	Originally Posted by Cl1mh4224rd You need to be more specific: mentally or physically? But seriously, my advice to you is to put bill smith on Ignore. He's quite possibly an "intentional idiot". Whether it's because he's simply trolling or because he's managed to delude himself, the result is the same. Engaging these types is pointless. Another option is that he may be quite ill. Engaging these people is not just pointless, but less than honorable, in my opinion. The mentally ill don't require the continued stimulation of their illness; they require medical help. Good Post!!!
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2nd December 2009, 01:26 AM	#125
gumboot lorcutus.tolere Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New Zealand Posts: 23,124	Originally Posted by Crazytimes What about the fact that if I recall correctly, Mark Bingham wasn't actually supposed to be on that flight. He missed his flight. So they would have not known he was to be on flight 93 beforehand to be able to have his voice. Am I remembering this correctly ? Are you kidding me? You're talking about the NWO. They managed to fry two skyscrapers with nano-ants and a giant space laser hovering over the Horn of Africa (or something), you really think they can't get a live feed to an updated airline manifest? Please. Their year one recruits do that stuff in their sleep.
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2nd December 2009, 03:26 AM	#126
NutCracker Muse Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 601	Originally Posted by Cl1mh4224rd You need to be more specific: mentally or physically? But seriously, my advice to you is to put bill smith on Ignore. He's quite possibly an "intentional idiot". Whether it's because he's simply trolling or because he's managed to delude himself, the result is the same. Engaging these types is pointless. Another option is that he may be quite ill. Engaging these people is not just pointless, but less than honorable, in my opinion. The mentally ill don't require the continued stimulation of their illness; they require medical help. Seconded. To me bs comes across as an individual who is here to argue for the sake of arguing. "Arguing" meaning, "take issue with anything your opponents says." A certain Monty Python sketch comes to mind. In my view there is little point in debating bs. His pr value for the TM is naught. There is nothing to be learned from countering his recycled nonsense. The only justifiable reason for not having him on ignore is being able to view his avatar. I put him on ignore some time ago; it was like switching off a diesel engine in the living room. Recommended. Just save his avatar.
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1st December 2009, 06:14 PM	#123
Cl1mh4224rd Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Pennsylvania, USA Posts: 6,618	Originally Posted by scott.in.taiwan Once again, how old are you? You need to be more specific: mentally or physically? But seriously, my advice to you is to put bill smith on Ignore. He's quite possibly an "intentional idiot". Whether it's because he's simply trolling or because he's managed to delude himself, the result is the same. Engaging these types is pointless. Another option is that he may be quite ill. Engaging these people is not just pointless, but less than honorable, in my opinion. The mentally ill don't require the continued stimulation of their illness; they require medical help.

2nd December 2009, 03:57 AM	#127
sylvan8798 Graduate Poster Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1,510	Originally Posted by gumboot Are you kidding me? You're talking about the NWO. They managed to fry two skyscrapers with nano-ants and a giant space laser hovering over the Horn of Africa (or something), you really think they can't get a live feed to an updated airline manifest? Please. Their year one recruits do that stuff in their sleep. No, no, it was nano-termites, which are great because they are not only explosive, but they can be trained to go to the exact locations where they will be needed, and they are hard to spot with video cameras, thereby eliminating the need for lots of manpower and getting past security systems in order to set up a 110 acre building for demolition...

2nd December 2009, 06:24 AM	#128
Gnu World Order Thinker Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Here. Now. Posts: 156	Originally Posted by Cl1mh4224rd But seriously, my advice to you is to put bill smith on Ignore. Bravo! Quote: He's quite possibly an "intentional idiot". Bingo!

2nd December 2009, 07:51 AM	#129
carlitos "más divertido" Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 11,534	Originally Posted by Gnu World Order Bravo! Bingo! Thirded / Fourthed. Those that engage him really mess up the threads for me. No offense.

2nd December 2009, 09:48 PM	#130
tfk Master Poster Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,978	Originally Posted by commandlinegamer I don't condone violence, but it would be instructive to see a truther tell a relative of one the 911 victims to their face that they're lying. No doubt, after recovering from the inevitable headbutt, the truther would just claim the resultant relative's tears were just nano-glycerine as used by actors. CL, I think that you are fundamentally wrong about this. Tom PS. There are times when you SHOULD condone violence.
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