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Old 18th July 2010, 10:57 AM   #1
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Well, this is new - Operation Amalgam Virgo

This operation was a response to 9/11 happening in June of 2001.

http://boards.trutv.com/showthread.php?t=8194

... I'm just....perplexed at this person's claims.
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Old 18th July 2010, 11:04 AM   #2
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Originally Posted by Arus808 View Post
... I'm just....perplexed at this person's claims.
And this is the least complex version?
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Without going off the deep end with possible definitions and connections (Occam's razor) the simplest picture generated directly connects this so-called "hypothetical exercise" to a pre-planned picture; the picture I tried to get across in my January post. What I had said back then, in essence, was that 911 was a "signed" work. In other words, the sky at the time of the first 911 plane hit was identical to the sky at SUNRISE, on the VERNAL EQUINOX, as also viewed from NY, back in 23,615 BC, also known as the great year, as deliberately reverse calculated by the Maya Long Count from 2012. That sky had Virgo EXACTLY on the horizon in both pictures, ancient and modern.

This is an esoteric approach - hello - anyone listening?
Not so much!
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Old 19th July 2010, 01:50 AM   #3
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So Virgo was on the horizon at a completely different time and date to the first plane hit??????!!!!!!!OMGBBQ!!!!111!!

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Old 19th July 2010, 04:18 AM   #4
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the sky at the time of the first 911 plane hit was identical to the sky at SUNRISE, on the VERNAL EQUINOX, as also viewed from NY, back in 23,615 BC
No not really it wouldn't be identical due to the expansion of space(very very tiny)and the gravity interaction of the the stars within the milky way with other stars. It would be slightly different not to mention the Novas that has snuffed out some stars and the birth of new stars.
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Old 19th July 2010, 04:37 AM   #5
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Originally Posted by Arus808 View Post
This operation was a response to 9/11 happening in June of 2001.

http://boards.trutv.com/showthread.php?t=8194

... I'm just....perplexed at this person's claims.
Say what?

Could you explain this - don't tell me there are Twoofers who believe 911 happened three months early!
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Old 19th July 2010, 04:56 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by Arus808 View Post
This operation was a response to 9/11 happening in June of 2001.

http://boards.trutv.com/showthread.php?t=8194

... I'm just....perplexed at this person's claims.
There was lots of hard information to show the need for counter-terrorism drills prior to 9/11/2001, especially in NYC.
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Old 19th July 2010, 06:08 AM   #7
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In June of that year I was on the radio discussing the missile defense and how it does not address a realistic terrorist threat. I was asked what a realistic threat was and I replied "Stealing an airliner and crashing it into a target of high value."

So I guess that means I plotted this whole thing for the NWO, right?

Similarly ANY exercise could be "foreshadowing" or "preparation" if you already think that its a vast governmental conspiracy.
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Old 19th July 2010, 07:16 AM   #8
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You know, I read the thread title as "Operation Anagram", and wondered what the hell the investigation into Peter Tobin's serial killing and his possible earlier cereer as Bible John had to do with 9/11....

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Old 20th July 2010, 03:28 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by Arus808 View Post
This operation was a response to 9/11 happening in June of 2001.

... I'm just....perplexed at this person's claims.
I would be more than happy to explain it - if you wish. I had to cut out the URL in the quote it seems, but you can find it in the original post.
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Old 20th July 2010, 09:38 PM   #10
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I would be more than happy to explain it - if you wish. I had to cut out the URL in the quote it seems, but you can find it in the original post.
Welcome to the forum, onlychild.

Is this the link you want posted?

http://dhost.info/onlychild/

I have to go out in a minute, but I'll have a read of your page as soon as I can.
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Old 20th July 2010, 10:43 PM   #11
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From that link:

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If we were to look at SUNRISE on the VERNAL EQUINOX in the year 23,615 BC (the very month we landed on above) we would need to ask one single question: WHY is the sky represented at that time THE EXACT SAME SKY as the September 11, 2001 sky at the time of the very first plane crash into the World Trade Center tower? Both views are from the same NY coordinates.
Onlychild, you are committing the Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy.

http://www.fallacyfiles.org/texsharp.html

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The Texas sharpshooter is a fabled marksman who fires his gun randomly at the side of a barn, then paints a bullseye around the spot where the most bullet holes cluster. The story of this Lone Star state shooter has given its name to a fallacy apparently first described in the field of epidemiology, which studies how cases of disease cluster in a population.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_sharpshooter_fallacy

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The Texas sharpshooter fallacy is a logical fallacy in which information that has no relationship is interpreted or manipulated until it appears to have meaning. The name comes from a joke about a Texan who fires some shots at the side of a barn, then paints a target centered on the biggest cluster of hits and claims to be a sharpshooter.
Onlychild, you have not turned the clock back exactly 25,627 years (The Long Count). You have turned it back, then turned it again to a spot where you are claiming 'bullseye'.

You did not hit the bullseye. You just painted a target where you wanted a bullseye to be.
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Old 20th July 2010, 10:48 PM   #12
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The Frances Bacon quote at the end of the post says it all for me.
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Old 21st July 2010, 07:07 AM   #13
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I find it amazing that people continually make the remarks they do, which would presuppose that said people understood where the error was in the data pile they were looking at.

So I will sit back and allow you to teach me where the error in a 36 year personal research project lies.
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Old 21st July 2010, 09:41 AM   #14
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You could spend 36 years researching unicorns or santa claus...that does not make them any more real. Provide concrete physical evidence (not the usual supposition and speculation) and you'll have our attention.

So far, you fail.

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Old 21st July 2010, 10:35 AM   #15
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Originally Posted by T.A.M. View Post
You could spend 36 years researching unicorns or santa claus...that does not make them any more real. Provide concrete physical evidence (not the usual supposition and speculation) and you'll have our attention.

So far, you fail.

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So far, I have done nothing but drop in this forum. My comments were to those who had said whatever written above. It seems people who BOO-HOO something right off the bat imply that they know where the errors are. I say they don't have a clue, but yet, they have things to say. Prove me wrong - and you will have MY attention.
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So far, I have done nothing but drop in this forum. My comments were to those who had said whatever written above. It seems people who BOO-HOO something right off the bat imply that they know where the errors are. I say they don't have a clue, but yet, they have things to say. Prove me wrong - and you will have MY attention.
Using astrology as "evidence" of anything doesn't prove jack. So you're proved wrong, reguardless of what you might think or say about 9/11. You simply have no evidence to back up any claims or theories that you might have.

As for my astrology sign, I'm a Virgo, I was born Sept. 12th. So you think I helped "plan" 9/11?
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Old 21st July 2010, 10:54 AM   #17
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So far, I have done nothing but drop in this forum. My comments were to those who had said whatever written above. It seems people who BOO-HOO something right off the bat imply that they know where the errors are. I say they don't have a clue, but yet, they have things to say. Prove me wrong - and you will have MY attention.
You are the one making the claim. The burden of proof is upon you. You will get no discussion worth having until you realize this and bring your evidence.

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You are the one making the claim. The burden of proof is upon you. You will get no discussion worth having until you realize this and bring your evidence.

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You have a problem with control, that doesn't work with me. Let me explain this: I observe people. If I ask a question or make a statement, I observe the responses. Sort of like a field sobriety test where the cop wants the person to walk a straight line, I create a line with words. Then I watch to see if said person is able to follow that line, or, if they weave off that line. Sometimes, they try to create their own line, and actually believe no one notices.

I came here because of boo-hoo responses to things I had written somewhere else that I noticed on a Google search. I said I would explain it if anyone was interested. What I got was more boo-hooing as if they knew where I was wrong; you can't boo-hoo data if you have no counter-argument.

You should be nice to newbies ... some of us are older than you are and would like some respect. I'm out of here.
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You have a problem with control, that doesn't work with me. Let me explain this: I observe people. If I ask a question or make a statement, I observe the responses. Sort of like a field sobriety test where the cop wants the person to walk a straight line, I create a line with words. Then I watch to see if said person is able to follow that line, or, if they weave off that line. Sometimes, they try to create their own line, and actually believe no one notices.

I came here because of boo-hoo responses to things I had written somewhere else that I noticed on a Google search. I said I would explain it if anyone was interested. What I got was more boo-hooing as if they knew where I was wrong; you can't boo-hoo data if you have no counter-argument.

You should be nice to newbies ... some of us are older than you are and would like some respect. I'm out of here.
You can't make people follow your "line". They have their own lines to follow & there's nothing you can do to stop them doing it.

Get some evidence & you'll earn respect!
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I said I would explain it if anyone was interested.
People took enough interest to call you out on it! Were you only going to "explain", if everyone here gave you a "Hoo-Rah", instead of a "boo-hoo"?
If so, you badly misjudged your audience. Perhaps you should have observed a bit longer? Nah...doubt you would still get it!

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Respect is earned, and if you want it here, you better bring the heat, cuz all of us can hit, sliders, and change-ups! But don't be surprised, if we send your fast ball out of the park, as well!
Oh' and no one older than US, talks like that! See ya, wouldn't want to...
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In June of that year I was on the radio discussing the missile defense and how it does not address a realistic terrorist threat. I was asked what a realistic threat was and I replied "Stealing an airliner and crashing it into a target of high value."

So I guess that means I plotted this whole thing for the NWO, right?

Similarly ANY exercise could be "foreshadowing" or "preparation" if you already think that its a vast governmental conspiracy.
And Tom Clancy in a 1994 novel beat you to the punch.......
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Originally Posted by onlychild View Post
I find it amazing that people continually make the remarks they do, which would presuppose that said people understood where the error was in the data pile they were looking at.

So I will sit back and allow you to teach me where the error in a 36 year personal research project lies.
You've known about 9/11 for 36 years? You were in on it!

I'm reporting you to the FBI.
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You have a problem with control, that doesn't work with me. Let me explain this: I observe people. If I ask a question or make a statement, I observe the responses. Sort of like a field sobriety test where the cop wants the person to walk a straight line, I create a line with words. Then I watch to see if said person is able to follow that line, or, if they weave off that line. Sometimes, they try to create their own line, and actually believe no one notices.

I came here because of boo-hoo responses to things I had written somewhere else that I noticed on a Google search. I said I would explain it if anyone was interested. What I got was more boo-hooing as if they knew where I was wrong; you can't boo-hoo data if you have no counter-argument.

You should be nice to newbies ... some of us are older than you are and would like some respect. I'm out of here.
okie dokie, don't let the door hit you on the way out. Not sure what you expected of your visit here, but I hope it was entertaining.

You are still wrong until you prove differently through the presentation of evidence.

As for your age, on the internet you are the same as everyone else, and must earn respect. You are a newbie who came here responding to justified skepticism over your evidenceless, supposition of a theory that has not a flicker of proof to back it up...what did you expect?


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