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corbin · 14th August 2011, 09:34 PM

Found this on another forum... what do you think? Some of the activities of the CIA in particular seem to suggest an elitist model of power rather than a plural one.

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I see arguments on here from posters who laugh and/or mock people who want to question their government or simply don't believe what they are being told to be true.

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ApolloGnomon · 14th August 2011, 09:37 PM

"Inventing 9/11 Conspiracy" is missing from your list.

corbin · 14th August 2011, 09:38 PM

As I said, it isn't MY list.

Second, perhaps it is there. You don't know because you didn't read more than 1/10 of the post.

Greedo · 15th August 2011, 12:11 AM

How does it suggest an "elitist" power model?

Gazpacho · 15th August 2011, 01:55 AM

Originally Posted by corbin

Second, perhaps it is there. You don't know because you didn't read more than 1/10 of the post.

A vague question like "What do you think?" isn't really going to motivate people to do so.

Yes, the government lies to the public. Is there anything more specific you want to talk about?

Scott Sommers · 15th August 2011, 02:03 AM

You missed the Jani Lane murders that would link the CIA to the Illuminati. Check out this thread.
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=216694

jargon buster · 15th August 2011, 02:12 AM

The CIA also have a hand in many of the muppets characters, you wont find it on any list though because its a secret.

Gazpacho · 15th August 2011, 02:18 AM

Originally Posted by jargon buster

The CIA also have a hand in many of the muppets characters, you wont find it on any list though because its a secret.

I think you're confusing Jim Henson's muppets with another muppet show called "the US government."

jargon buster · 15th August 2011, 02:58 AM

After spending my life watching and observing the human race I have come to the conclusion everyones a muppet to someone else.
We all just shuffle along bluffing our way through life.

ApolloGnomon · 15th August 2011, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by corbin

As I said, it isn't MY list.

Second, perhaps it is there. You don't know because you didn't read more than 1/10 of the post.

False. I read the entire list.

TSR · 15th August 2011, 10:37 AM

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I have not read your wall of text, since it was removed as breaching your MA.

Having no little experience in the genre, however, if the list is presented with no refutation even hinted at, I can pretty much guarantee that it's crap.

If there is a *specific* item on the list you feel should be addressed here, first use the search function on the forum to see where it has already been discussed (as it almost certainly has) or failing that, start a thread on that specific topic.

Thank you.
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14th August 2011, 09:37 PM	#2
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corbin Critical Thinker Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 396	As I said, it isn't MY list. Second, perhaps it is there. You don't know because you didn't read more than 1/10 of the post.
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15th August 2011, 12:11 AM	#4
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15th August 2011, 02:03 AM	#6
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jargon buster Illuminator Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 4,257	The CIA also have a hand in many of the muppets characters, you wont find it on any list though because its a secret.
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15th August 2011, 01:55 AM	#5
Gazpacho Master Poster Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Valley Lodge, USA Posts: 2,136	Originally Posted by corbin Second, perhaps it is there. You don't know because you didn't read more than 1/10 of the post. A vague question like "What do you think?" isn't really going to motivate people to do so. Yes, the government lies to the public. Is there anything more specific you want to talk about?

15th August 2011, 02:18 AM	#8
Gazpacho Master Poster Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Valley Lodge, USA Posts: 2,136	Originally Posted by jargon buster The CIA also have a hand in many of the muppets characters, you wont find it on any list though because its a secret. I think you're confusing Jim Henson's muppets with another muppet show called "the US government."

15th August 2011, 02:58 AM	#9
jargon buster Illuminator Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 4,257	After spending my life watching and observing the human race I have come to the conclusion everyones a muppet to someone else. We all just shuffle along bluffing our way through life.
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15th August 2011, 10:19 AM	#10
ApolloGnomon Aluminum Tripod Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Time Zone Zed Zed Plural Zed Alpha Posts: 2,008	Originally Posted by corbin As I said, it isn't MY list. Second, perhaps it is there. You don't know because you didn't read more than 1/10 of the post. False. I read the entire list.
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15th August 2011, 10:37 AM	#11
TSR Do you know what this notorious criminal did? Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 4,788	. I have not read your wall of text, since it was removed as breaching your MA. Having no little experience in the genre, however, if the list is presented with no refutation even hinted at, I can pretty much guarantee that it's crap. If there is a specific item on the list you feel should be addressed here, first use the search function on the forum to see where it has already been discussed (as it almost certainly has) or failing that, start a thread on that specific topic. Thank you. .
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