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Old 23rd April 2012, 09:45 PM   #1
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Etch-a-sketch watch

Did Mitt Romney Just Throw Kris Kobach Under The Bus?

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Mitt Romney appeared to publicly split on Monday with his “informal” immigration adviser, Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, setting up a general election pivot in which Romney potentially turns his back on the far-right anti-immigration sector of the GOP he courted heavily in the primary.

At a press conference with Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) Monday, Romney said
Rubio’s nascent DREAM Act proposal, which offers the children of illegal immigrants a way to remain in the country, should pass muster with conservatives like Kobach. Kobach strongly opposes the DREAM Act on the grounds that it would provide amnesty to law-breakers — but Rubio’s proposal differs from Democratic versions of the DREAM Act, which offers a path to citizenship.

Kobach himself has said that Rubio’s proposal falls short of his test. Split between two men whose endorsement he touted, Romney appears to be leaning toward Rubio.
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Old 23rd April 2012, 10:42 PM   #2
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I thought this was going to be about an Etch-a-sketch watch. That would be cool. I had one on a keychain once.
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Old 23rd April 2012, 11:27 PM   #3
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More tacking to the center:

Romney Blunts Obama Attack By Backing Lower Student Loan Rates

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Less than an hour after the Obama campaign kicked off a week-long push to attack Mitt Romney on college affordability, the Republican candidate took the wind out of their sails by supporting the White House’s push to extend subsidized lower interest rates on federal loans.

Without action in Congress, a 2007 bill keeping interest on loans held by some 7 million students at 3.4 percent versus 6.8 percent will expire. President Obama is speaking at three colleges on Tuesday and Wednesday to pressure House Republicans to act despite their wariness about a one-year fix’s $6 billion price tag. Obama’s re-election team held a conference call Monday focused on student loan debt and attacking Romney over proposed cuts to higher-education funding in the GOP budget.
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Old 24th April 2012, 03:16 AM   #4
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What ya know? Romney was been paying attention in the last election when going more extreme in the general election didn't work.
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Old 24th April 2012, 05:10 AM   #5
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Originally Posted by epepke View Post
I thought this was going to be about an Etch-a-sketch watch. That would be cool. I had one on a keychain once.
Me too, but now I realize how stupid that would be. If it was on your wrist you would only have one free hand to operate the two knobs.
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Old 24th April 2012, 06:38 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by Careyp74 View Post
...you would only have one free hand to operate the two knobs.
Snort.
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Old 24th April 2012, 06:42 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by Careyp74 View Post
Me too, but now I realize how stupid that would be. If it was on your wrist you would only have one free hand to operate the two knobs.
Wouldn't the movement of the wrist erase it?
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Old 25th April 2012, 11:46 AM   #8
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Originally Posted by Careyp74 View Post
Me too, but now I realize how stupid that would be. If it was on your wrist you would only have one free hand to operate the two knobs.
But if it was the size of a watch, mybe you could turn the knobs with the fingers of one hand.

(Sorry for the topic drift, but now I realy want an etch-a-sketch watch!)
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Old 26th April 2012, 11:22 AM   #9
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Here is a curious statement that GLAAD is having a field day with:

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I believe that the Boy Scouts of America does a wonderful service for this country. I support the right of the Boy Scouts of America to decide what it wants to do on that issue. I feel that all people should be able to participate in the Boy Scouts regardless of their sexual orientation.
Linky.

The moderator also mentioned that he said he would do more to support gay rights than Ted Kennedy. I find his statement curious because it looks like he was trying to have it both ways even back then.
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Old 26th April 2012, 01:38 PM   #10
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What ya know? Romney was been paying attention in the last election when going more extreme in the general election didn't work.
How is it extreme to ask illegals in the country to leave the country which is what Romney’s immigration plan was all about, self-deportation.
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Old 26th April 2012, 01:51 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by MaGZ View Post
How is it extreme to ask illegals in the country to leave the country which is what Romney’s immigration plan was all about, self-deportation.
Funny story, self deportation was a hoax that Romney bought into.
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Old 26th April 2012, 01:51 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by epepke View Post
I thought this was going to be about an Etch-a-sketch watch. That would be cool. I had one on a keychain once.

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Old 26th April 2012, 03:58 PM   #13
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Looks like Romney is trying to refocus the fight from between the 99% and 1% to between the 99% and 99%.
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We will stop the unfairness of government workers getting better pay and benefits than the very taxpayers they serve," the former Massachusetts governor said.
See, there's the problem with America, workers of one sector get paid more then another. The problem isn't the politicians or CEO's, or Wall Street, it's the people behind the counter at the DMV.

This man is so far out of touch....

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Looks like Romney is trying to refocus the fight from between the 99% and 1% to between the 99% and 99%.See, there's the problem with America, workers of one sector get paid more then another. The problem isn't the politicians or CEO's, or Wall Street, it's the people behind the counter at the DMV.

This man is so far out of touch....

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The problem in America is that rich people are taxed too much and poor people don't have skin in the game. If we could just raise poor people's taxes and cut taxes for rich people, everyone would be rich. Also, if we can just slash wages for public sector workers to match the lower pay of private sector workers, then all of us would get rich as well.

Econ 101, Libtard!
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Libtard!
hmm...I wonder if that vanity license plate phrase is taken?
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What I am wondering is, where is the outrage from the far right? Romney told them one thing during the primaries, and now he's throwing them under the bus in order to move to the center. They should feel angry and betrayed.

Or maybe that is Romney's genius; To make everybody feel like he is only lying to the other side.
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What I am wondering is, where is the outrage from the far right? Romney told them one thing during the primaries, and now he's throwing them under the bus in order to move to the center. They should feel angry and betrayed.

Or maybe that is Romney's genius; To make everybody feel like he is only lying to the other side.
"Anybodybutobama", we'll sort it all out later among us real Americans.
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What I am wondering is, where is the outrage from the far right? Romney told them one thing during the primaries, and now he's throwing them under the bus in order to move to the center. They should feel angry and betrayed.
I'm pretty sure they hated flip-flopping 8 years ago. Wonder what changed?
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What I am wondering is, where is the outrage from the far right? Romney told them one thing during the primaries, and now he's throwing them under the bus in order to move to the center. They should feel angry and betrayed.

It's probably an effect like when someone's favorite team gets the advantage from a ref's bad call. They usually just shut up about it and hope it helps them toward the win.

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Or maybe that is Romney's genius; To make everybody feel like he is only lying to the other side.

I don't see any evidence of an intentional strategy, certainly not one that involves that kind of shrewdness or subtlety. I think he's just pretty certain his supporters aren't going to call him out on his lies as long as they think it might help him get elected.
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Chris Hayes had an interesting take on Romney's... uh... flexibility on Lawrence O'Donnell's show last night:

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I think Romney is relishing his newfound freedom. I mean I basically think what happened was he was a captive of the right wing of the party. Anytime that he deviated in any way they would smack him down. There was line when he embraced -- Romneycare in Massachusetts. When his spokesperson did, they said, "We have to house break the dog." That was... what the Republicans said, you know... Beat the dog, bad dog. It took until conservatives got so desperate about his chances that now he`s completely freelancing. He`s a totally free man. If there is something, Lawrence, you like, maybe he`s for it.

Full transcript of the show here.
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Old 6th October 2012, 07:01 PM   #22
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The Etch-a-Sketch candidate.



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Originally Posted by Tricky View Post
What I am wondering is, where is the outrage from the far right? Romney told them one thing during the primaries, and now he's throwing them under the bus in order to move to the center. They should feel angry and betrayed.

Or maybe that is Romney's genius; To make everybody feel like he is only lying to the other side.
They're just voting against Obama, not for Romney.

Remember, Gingrich and the others said that the number one priority is to prevent Obama from getting a second term. Little else seems to matter to them.
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They're just voting against Obama, not for Romney.

Remember, Gingrich and the others said that the number one priority is to prevent Obama from getting a second term. Little else seems to matter to them.
This has a lot of legs. If so, and Obama wins, can we expect a round of bogus calls for impeachment?
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Me too, but now I realize how stupid that would be. If it was on your wrist you would only have one free hand to operate the two knobs.
Well played sir. Well played.
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How is it extreme to ask illegals in the country to leave the country which is what Romney’s immigration plan was all about, self-deportation.
How extreme is it to actually go after the reason they come here. I am talking about the companies that hire them.
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This has a lot of legs. If so, and Obama wins, can we expect a round of bogus calls for impeachment?
Didn't that happen last time a Democrat won a second term in the White House?
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What I am wondering is, where is the outrage from the far right? Romney told them one thing during the primaries, and now he's throwing them under the bus in order to move to the center. They should feel angry and betrayed.

Or maybe that is Romney's genius; To make everybody feel like he is only lying to the other side.
He doesn't sound "severely conservative" to me. He sounds like a moooooslim.
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I'm pretty sure they hated flip-flopping 8 years ago. Wonder what changed?
The flip flop is on the other foot.
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Didn't that happen last time a Democrat won a second term in the White House?
Wag the dog!!!!
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