The Great Comet of 562 AD

sophia8 · 16th April 2012, 12:58 PM

According to this, a giant comet devastated Britain in 562AD, killing millions and bringing about the Dark Ages.
The writer is pretty bonkers altogether:

Quote:

When the Saxons settled in Kent upon the invitation of infamous and allegedly incestuous King Vortigern, who was accused of being a usurper of the throne in the writings of St. Glidas, they brought with them barbarism, debauchery and a literal interpretation of the allegories of the Holy Science, which had been used for thousands of years by indigenous elders to convey the science of astrotheology to their students, which happened in every corner of the globe during more enlightened ages of the Grand Cylce of the Precession of the Equinoxes.

The Saturnic/Satanic credo of ignorance was imposed upon the Britons in the name of the Christian Church of Rome, under a Babylonic system of control administered through taxation, the control of information and pseudo-religious inquisition, savagely enforced by the Germanic tribes at the behest of the Holy Roman Emperors, in order to obliterate the inherent spirituality of the millions who fearlessly sacrificed their lives in the name of the unalienable freedom that they knew to be the birthright, whether for the sake of their children, their nation and its future generations, or in the name of the Supreme Being at the centre of the Universe, manifested as matter in the form of Christos or Christ the Sun.

(Yes that is just two sentences.)

He's also into FOTL stuff and thinks the Gregorian calender reform was a conspiracy to hide the truth of the 360-day year from us.

Baloney · 16th April 2012, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by sophia8

He's also into FOTL stuff...

Fruit of the Loom?

NoahFence · 16th April 2012, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by Baloney

Fruit of the Loom?

That's EXACTLY what I was about to type, too....

Vortigern99 · 16th April 2012, 02:39 PM

I hereby deny all accusations of incest.

Marduk · 16th April 2012, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by Vortigern99

I hereby deny all accusations of incest.

pictures or it didn't happen

Mojo · 16th April 2012, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by Baloney

Fruit of the Loom?

Freeman On The Land.

Spindrift · 16th April 2012, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by Mojo

Freeman On The Land.

A different kind of fruit.

Mojo · 17th April 2012, 12:36 AM

Originally Posted by Spindrift

A different kind of fruit.

...of the loon?

Brainache · 17th April 2012, 02:50 AM

History, Literature or Art?

You decide.

Moss · 17th April 2012, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by sophia8

According to this, a giant comet devastated Britain in 562AD, killing millions and bringing about the Dark Ages.
The writer is pretty bonkers altogether:
(Yes that is just two sentences.)

He's also into FOTL stuff and thinks the Gregorian calender reform was a conspiracy to hide the truth of the 360-day year from us.

Wee bit early for Holy Roman Emperors. Also curious when they ever had any foothold in the British Isles.
I'm also not aware Hengist and Horsa and their relatives were Christian.

dudalb · 17th April 2012, 04:01 PM

Just went to the website.
Wow, that is a big bunch of Woo.

geni · 17th April 2012, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by Baloney

Fruit of the Loom?

Freemen on the land:

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Freeman_on_the_land

theprestige · 17th April 2012, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by sophia8

(Yes that is just two sentences.)

Those are two surprisingly coherent sentences, considering their length and subject matter.

TimCallahan · 18th April 2012, 10:51 PM

Originally Posted by geni

Freemen on the land:

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Freeman_on_the_land

Fleas on the Labrador?

timhau · 18th April 2012, 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by sophia8

According to this, a giant comet devastated Britain in 562AD, killing millions

... which, given that it's millions in plural, means killing everyone on the island. Estimated population of Britain in the 500s is about two million.

Craig B · 25th April 2012, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by timhau

... which, given that it's millions in plural, means killing everyone on the island. Estimated population of Britain in the 500s is about two million.

More seriously, it has been proposed that the worldwide crisis of the sixth century (not merely the misfortunes experienced by the Britons) was set off by a huge volcanic eruption, probably of Krakatau, in modern Indonesia, which blew its stack once more in 1883. See http://www.ees1.lanl.gov/Wohletz/Krakatau.htm

Quote:

Modern history has its origins in the tumultuous 6th and 7th centuries. During this period agricultural failures and the emergence of the plague contributed to: (1) the demise of ancient super cities, old Persia, Indonesian civilizations, the Nasca culture of South America, and southern Arabian civilizations; (2) the schism of the Roman Empire with the conception of many nation states and the re-birth of a united China; and (3) the origin and spread of Islam while Arian Christianity disappeared. In his book, Catastrophe An Investigation into the Origins of the Modern World, author David Keys explores history and archaeology to link all of these human upheavals to climate destabilization brought on by a natural catastrophe, with strong evidence from tree-ring and ice-core data that it occurred in 535 AD.

TimCallahan · 27th April 2012, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by Craig B

More seriously, it has been proposed that the worldwide crisis of the sixth century (not merely the misfortunes experienced by the Britons) was set off by a huge volcanic eruption, probably of Krakatau, in modern Indonesia, which blew its stack once more in 1883. See http://www.ees1.lanl.gov/Wohletz/Krakatau.htm

I suspect the volcano helped make things worse; but, let's face it, European civilization was in a state of rapid disintegration anyway. It would be interesting to see is similar disruptions of culture took place at the same time in other civilized realms, such as China, Southeast Asia, India, Central America, Mexico and Peru.

I'm still wondering what FOTL stands for in the OP. Could it be "Fear of the Lord"?

Brainache · 27th April 2012, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by TimCallahan

...I'm still wondering what FOTL stands for in the OP. Could it be "Fear of the Lord"?

Freeman On The Land.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Freeman_on_the_land

Craig B · 27th April 2012, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by TimCallahan

I suspect the volcano helped make things worse; but, let's face it, European civilization was in a state of rapid disintegration anyway. It would be interesting to see is similar disruptions of culture took place at the same time in other civilized realms, such as China, Southeast Asia, India, Central America, Mexico and Peru.

European civilisation was in a bad way, but it collapsed almost totally after the 530s. The crisis certainly affected China, as indicated in my source. As to the Americas, it has long been noticed that there was a "hiatus" in Mayan activity during the relevant period:

Quote:

In recent years there have been a number of breakthroughs in explaining the abandonment of the Mayan cities.
In 1995, archaeologist Richardson Benedict Gill used the last dates carved on monuments in cities to identify four periods when the abandonment of Mayan cities had occurred, in clusters:
a.) The pre-Classic abandonment’s of 150–200 AD.
b.) The Hiatus of 530– 590 AD.
c.) The main period of collapse ~ the Classic period: 8th/9th Centuries
d.) The Post Classic abandonments, centred on 1450 AD.

http://sites.google.com/site/medieva...n-civilisation

pakeha · 28th April 2012, 02:08 AM

Thanks as always for the link.
It makes great rainy Saturday morning reading and musing material.

16th April 2012, 12:58 PM	#1
sophia8 Master Poster Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In the dark, dark forest.... Posts: 2,289	The Great Comet of 562 AD According to this, a giant comet devastated Britain in 562AD, killing millions and bringing about the Dark Ages. The writer is pretty bonkers altogether: Quote: When the Saxons settled in Kent upon the invitation of infamous and allegedly incestuous King Vortigern, who was accused of being a usurper of the throne in the writings of St. Glidas, they brought with them barbarism, debauchery and a literal interpretation of the allegories of the Holy Science, which had been used for thousands of years by indigenous elders to convey the science of astrotheology to their students, which happened in every corner of the globe during more enlightened ages of the Grand Cylce of the Precession of the Equinoxes. The Saturnic/Satanic credo of ignorance was imposed upon the Britons in the name of the Christian Church of Rome, under a Babylonic system of control administered through taxation, the control of information and pseudo-religious inquisition, savagely enforced by the Germanic tribes at the behest of the Holy Roman Emperors, in order to obliterate the inherent spirituality of the millions who fearlessly sacrificed their lives in the name of the unalienable freedom that they knew to be the birthright, whether for the sake of their children, their nation and its future generations, or in the name of the Supreme Being at the centre of the Universe, manifested as matter in the form of Christos or Christ the Sun. (Yes that is just two sentences.) He's also into FOTL stuff and thinks the Gregorian calender reform was a conspiracy to hide the truth of the 360-day year from us.
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16th April 2012, 02:18 PM	#2
Baloney Muse Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: America! (F, yeah!) Posts: 666	Originally Posted by sophia8 He's also into FOTL stuff... Fruit of the Loom?
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16th April 2012, 02:21 PM	#3
NoahFence Psycho Kitty Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Patriot Nation Posts: 9,410	Originally Posted by Baloney Fruit of the Loom? That's EXACTLY what I was about to type, too....
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16th April 2012, 02:39 PM	#4
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16th April 2012, 02:55 PM	#6
Mojo Mostly harmless Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nor Flanden Posts: 22,456	Originally Posted by Baloney Fruit of the Loom? Freeman On The Land.
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16th April 2012, 02:42 PM	#5
Marduk Banned Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Newbury, Berkshire Posts: 10,242	Originally Posted by Vortigern99 I hereby deny all accusations of incest. pictures or it didn't happen

16th April 2012, 07:32 PM	#7
Spindrift Enturbulator Extraordinaire Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Right here! Posts: 8,646	Originally Posted by Mojo Freeman On The Land. A different kind of fruit.
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17th April 2012, 12:36 AM	#8
Mojo Mostly harmless Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nor Flanden Posts: 22,456	Originally Posted by Spindrift A different kind of fruit. ...of the loon?
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17th April 2012, 02:50 AM	#9
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17th April 2012, 11:24 AM	#10
Moss Dramatocrat Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Heiligsblechle country Posts: 3,229	Originally Posted by sophia8 According to this, a giant comet devastated Britain in 562AD, killing millions and bringing about the Dark Ages. The writer is pretty bonkers altogether: (Yes that is just two sentences.) He's also into FOTL stuff and thinks the Gregorian calender reform was a conspiracy to hide the truth of the 360-day year from us. Wee bit early for Holy Roman Emperors. Also curious when they ever had any foothold in the British Isles. I'm also not aware Hengist and Horsa and their relatives were Christian.

17th April 2012, 04:01 PM	#11
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 23,014	Just went to the website. Wow, that is a big bunch of Woo.

17th April 2012, 04:05 PM	#12
geni Anti-homeopathy illuminati member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: UK Posts: 26,639	Originally Posted by Baloney Fruit of the Loom? Freemen on the land: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Freeman_on_the_land

17th April 2012, 04:12 PM	#13
theprestige Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 8,882	Originally Posted by sophia8 (Yes that is just two sentences.) Those are two surprisingly coherent sentences, considering their length and subject matter.
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18th April 2012, 10:51 PM	#14
TimCallahan Philosopher Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5,211	Originally Posted by geni Freemen on the land: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Freeman_on_the_land Fleas on the Labrador?
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18th April 2012, 11:34 PM	#15
timhau NWO Litter Technician Join Date: May 2004 Location: East of Sweeden Posts: 9,755	Originally Posted by sophia8 According to this, a giant comet devastated Britain in 562AD, killing millions ... which, given that it's millions in plural, means killing everyone on the island. Estimated population of Britain in the 500s is about two million.
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25th April 2012, 10:33 PM	#16
Craig B Illuminator Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 4,318	Originally Posted by timhau ... which, given that it's millions in plural, means killing everyone on the island. Estimated population of Britain in the 500s is about two million. More seriously, it has been proposed that the worldwide crisis of the sixth century (not merely the misfortunes experienced by the Britons) was set off by a huge volcanic eruption, probably of Krakatau, in modern Indonesia, which blew its stack once more in 1883. See http://www.ees1.lanl.gov/Wohletz/Krakatau.htm Quote: Modern history has its origins in the tumultuous 6th and 7th centuries. During this period agricultural failures and the emergence of the plague contributed to: (1) the demise of ancient super cities, old Persia, Indonesian civilizations, the Nasca culture of South America, and southern Arabian civilizations; (2) the schism of the Roman Empire with the conception of many nation states and the re-birth of a united China; and (3) the origin and spread of Islam while Arian Christianity disappeared. In his book, Catastrophe An Investigation into the Origins of the Modern World, author David Keys explores history and archaeology to link all of these human upheavals to climate destabilization brought on by a natural catastrophe, with strong evidence from tree-ring and ice-core data that it occurred in 535 AD.
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27th April 2012, 12:18 PM	#17
TimCallahan Philosopher Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5,211	Originally Posted by Craig B More seriously, it has been proposed that the worldwide crisis of the sixth century (not merely the misfortunes experienced by the Britons) was set off by a huge volcanic eruption, probably of Krakatau, in modern Indonesia, which blew its stack once more in 1883. See http://www.ees1.lanl.gov/Wohletz/Krakatau.htm I suspect the volcano helped make things worse; but, let's face it, European civilization was in a state of rapid disintegration anyway. It would be interesting to see is similar disruptions of culture took place at the same time in other civilized realms, such as China, Southeast Asia, India, Central America, Mexico and Peru. I'm still wondering what FOTL stands for in the OP. Could it be "Fear of the Lord"?
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27th April 2012, 06:22 PM	#18
Brainache Nasty Brutish and Tall Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Behind you! Posts: 9,181	Originally Posted by TimCallahan ...I'm still wondering what FOTL stands for in the OP. Could it be "Fear of the Lord"? Freeman On The Land. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Freeman_on_the_land
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27th April 2012, 08:06 PM	#19
Craig B Illuminator Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 4,318	Originally Posted by TimCallahan I suspect the volcano helped make things worse; but, let's face it, European civilization was in a state of rapid disintegration anyway. It would be interesting to see is similar disruptions of culture took place at the same time in other civilized realms, such as China, Southeast Asia, India, Central America, Mexico and Peru. European civilisation was in a bad way, but it collapsed almost totally after the 530s. The crisis certainly affected China, as indicated in my source. As to the Americas, it has long been noticed that there was a "hiatus" in Mayan activity during the relevant period: Quote: In recent years there have been a number of breakthroughs in explaining the abandonment of the Mayan cities. In 1995, archaeologist Richardson Benedict Gill used the last dates carved on monuments in cities to identify four periods when the abandonment of Mayan cities had occurred, in clusters: a.) The pre-Classic abandonment’s of 150–200 AD. b.) The Hiatus of 530– 590 AD. c.) The main period of collapse ~ the Classic period: 8th/9th Centuries d.) The Post Classic abandonments, centred on 1450 AD. http://sites.google.com/site/medieva...n-civilisation
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28th April 2012, 02:08 AM	#20
pakeha Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 8,233	Thanks as always for the link. It makes great rainy Saturday morning reading and musing material.
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