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Regnad Kcin · 2nd May 2012, 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by Brainster

No way. You cannot imagine how much they hate Obama. It's beyond passionate; it's unreasonable...

Unreasonable's the right word, considering Mr. Obama is about as moderate as they come.

Assuming, for the sake of argument, that's a given, from where does the unimaginable hatred originate?

ponderingturtle · 2nd May 2012, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin

Unreasonable's the right word, considering Mr. Obama is about as moderate as they come.

No, 10 years ago maybe, but now he is liberal. I wonder if Regan could get nominated as a republican now or if he would be too liberal, I think the too liberal part.

Regnad Kcin · 2nd May 2012, 06:56 PM

And yet Mr. Romney is also a moderate. Who is about to be nominated.

shecky · 2nd May 2012, 09:01 PM

There is the argument floated around the reason for Grenell's ouster was that he was a nasty personality with an internet trail of blog posts and tweets so egregious that he had to try erasing them after being chosen by Romney, amid the newly found attention. This argument is supposed to demonstrate that the Romney campaign doesn't really have a problem with gays. While this spin is plausible, as Grenell did seem to have a reputation as a jerk and misogynist, it still doesn't let Romney off the hook. Rather, it shows an incompetent decision to choose staff without proper vetting. Even so, I find it hard to believe his offensiveness would have bothered the base more than his homosexuality, and Romney is at a point where he cannot afford to lose his base. The bigoted faction made a show of how much Romney had to obey when they yanked the chain on his neck. If they ever doubted their power over the candidate, they doubt no longer. And neither does Romney.

ponderingturtle · 3rd May 2012, 05:43 AM

Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin

And yet Mr. Romney is also a moderate. Who is about to be nominated.

How can we know? All his most recent statements show an evolution into a hard right conservative? Or is hard but not extreme right the new moderate?

Chaos · 3rd May 2012, 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by ponderingturtle

How can we know? All his most recent statements show an evolution into a hard right conservative? Or is hard but not extreme right the new moderate?

And as the past year or so demonstrated, the only reason that Romney is being nominated at all is that all the other Anti-Romney-of-the-hour candidates managed to be too bat-boop nuts even for the current Republican party.

fishbob · 3rd May 2012, 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by ponderingturtle

How can we know? All his most recent statements show an evolution into a hard right conservative? Or is hard but not extreme right the new moderate?

Romney will say anything, pander to anybody in order to be elected. Any means justifies his ends.

So don't pay any attention to his recent statement because they mean absolutely nuthin'.

ponderingturtle · 3rd May 2012, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by fishbob

Romney will say anything, pander to anybody in order to be elected. Any means justifies his ends.

So don't pay any attention to his recent statement because they mean absolutely nuthin'.

And why are his old statements any different? I honestly have no clue what he really believes.

Accidental Martyr · 3rd May 2012, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin

Unreasonable's the right word, considering Mr. Obama is about as moderate as they come.

Assuming, for the sake of argument, that's a given, from where does the unimaginable hatred originate?

He's not white.

BenBurch · 3rd May 2012, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by Accidental Martyr

He's not white.

I think you have the majority of it there.

Regnad Kcin · 3rd May 2012, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by Accidental Martyr

He's not white.

Originally Posted by BenBurch

I think you have the majority of it there.

I'm starting a thread to discuss this more at length.

MaGZ · 6th May 2012, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by Lisa Simpson

I "like" this quote:

Because we all know gay people can't be trusted.

Right, remember the Cambridge spy ring?

MaGZ · 6th May 2012, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by Travis

And the far right continues to demonstrate why history will look on them as reprehensible monsters not worthy of the oxygen they wasted in the slime filled cavern a brain usually resided in.

Please name some far right Republicans who you consider to be monsters.

Bill Thompson · 7th May 2012, 09:22 AM

I think I could physically handle Obama being reelected. I do not think I could physically tolerate Romney becoming president of a country where I lived.

2nd May 2012, 04:07 PM	#41
Regnad Kcin Philosopher Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The ol' Same place Posts: 6,215	Originally Posted by Brainster No way. You cannot imagine how much they hate Obama. It's beyond passionate; it's unreasonable... Unreasonable's the right word, considering Mr. Obama is about as moderate as they come. Assuming, for the sake of argument, that's a given, from where does the unimaginable hatred originate?
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2nd May 2012, 06:23 PM	#42
ponderingturtle Orthogonal Vector Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Tarrytown, NY Posts: 26,425	Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin Unreasonable's the right word, considering Mr. Obama is about as moderate as they come. No, 10 years ago maybe, but now he is liberal. I wonder if Regan could get nominated as a republican now or if he would be too liberal, I think the too liberal part.
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2nd May 2012, 06:56 PM	#43
Regnad Kcin Philosopher Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The ol' Same place Posts: 6,215	And yet Mr. Romney is also a moderate. Who is about to be nominated.
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2nd May 2012, 09:01 PM	#44
shecky Master Poster Join Date: May 2002 Location: Home of the Homeless Posts: 2,190	There is the argument floated around the reason for Grenell's ouster was that he was a nasty personality with an internet trail of blog posts and tweets so egregious that he had to try erasing them after being chosen by Romney, amid the newly found attention. This argument is supposed to demonstrate that the Romney campaign doesn't really have a problem with gays. While this spin is plausible, as Grenell did seem to have a reputation as a jerk and misogynist, it still doesn't let Romney off the hook. Rather, it shows an incompetent decision to choose staff without proper vetting. Even so, I find it hard to believe his offensiveness would have bothered the base more than his homosexuality, and Romney is at a point where he cannot afford to lose his base. The bigoted faction made a show of how much Romney had to obey when they yanked the chain on his neck. If they ever doubted their power over the candidate, they doubt no longer. And neither does Romney.
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3rd May 2012, 05:43 AM	#45
ponderingturtle Orthogonal Vector Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Tarrytown, NY Posts: 26,425	Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin And yet Mr. Romney is also a moderate. Who is about to be nominated. How can we know? All his most recent statements show an evolution into a hard right conservative? Or is hard but not extreme right the new moderate?
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3rd May 2012, 08:31 AM	#46
Chaos TAM Chocolate Dispenser Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Heart of Old Europe Posts: 9,778	Originally Posted by ponderingturtle How can we know? All his most recent statements show an evolution into a hard right conservative? Or is hard but not extreme right the new moderate? And as the past year or so demonstrated, the only reason that Romney is being nominated at all is that all the other Anti-Romney-of-the-hour candidates managed to be too bat-boop nuts even for the current Republican party.
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3rd May 2012, 08:39 AM	#47
fishbob Seasonally Disaffected Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Chilly Undieville Posts: 5,667	Originally Posted by ponderingturtle How can we know? All his most recent statements show an evolution into a hard right conservative? Or is hard but not extreme right the new moderate? Romney will say anything, pander to anybody in order to be elected. Any means justifies his ends. So don't pay any attention to his recent statement because they mean absolutely nuthin'.
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3rd May 2012, 09:40 AM	#48
ponderingturtle Orthogonal Vector Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Tarrytown, NY Posts: 26,425	Originally Posted by fishbob Romney will say anything, pander to anybody in order to be elected. Any means justifies his ends. So don't pay any attention to his recent statement because they mean absolutely nuthin'. And why are his old statements any different? I honestly have no clue what he really believes.
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3rd May 2012, 09:53 AM	#49
Accidental Martyr Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Treading water in a sea of retarded sexuality and bad poetry. Posts: 1,852	Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin Unreasonable's the right word, considering Mr. Obama is about as moderate as they come. Assuming, for the sake of argument, that's a given, from where does the unimaginable hatred originate? He's not white.
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3rd May 2012, 09:56 AM	#50
BenBurch Gatekeeper of The Left Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: The Universe 35.2 ms ahead of this one. Posts: 32,162	Originally Posted by Accidental Martyr He's not white. I think you have the majority of it there.
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3rd May 2012, 06:53 PM	#51
Regnad Kcin Philosopher Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The ol' Same place Posts: 6,215	Originally Posted by Accidental Martyr He's not white. Originally Posted by BenBurch I think you have the majority of it there. I'm starting a thread to discuss this more at length.
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6th May 2012, 04:37 PM	#52
MaGZ Suspended Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 6,319	Originally Posted by Lisa Simpson I "like" this quote: Because we all know gay people can't be trusted. Right, remember the Cambridge spy ring?
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6th May 2012, 04:45 PM	#53
MaGZ Suspended Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 6,319	Originally Posted by Travis And the far right continues to demonstrate why history will look on them as reprehensible monsters not worthy of the oxygen they wasted in the slime filled cavern a brain usually resided in. Please name some far right Republicans who you consider to be monsters.
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7th May 2012, 09:22 AM	#54
Bill Thompson Banned Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Redmond, Washington Posts: 6,176	I think I could physically handle Obama being reelected. I do not think I could physically tolerate Romney becoming president of a country where I lived.