The mythology of dismissive skeptics and the JREF - Page 3

SezMe · 7th May 2012, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by truethat

I think if you've been a poster for a long time or have many posts that should be an indication of something.

What?

truethat · 7th May 2012, 03:57 PM

That you are not newly trolling, people generally have an idea about your past posting. It's one thing if a newbie starts asking questions about Christianity for example, and quite another if I do or someone else who is a well known atheist. Then it just comes across as stupid to me.

AttorneyTom · 7th May 2012, 08:24 PM

Well.. I learned a lesson yesterday.

I noticed a thread on this section that was started by a new person and the replies she received were.. I thought.. were very dismissive and not receptive so I stepped in.. I ended in "thread purgatory" where the argumentative folks go. Rightly so...

Edit:

It was not or did not seem like "Auto Woo" to me but just seemed like the "veterans" were making fun of the fact that she was new and did not know things about how the Board worked. What is nice now is that others have stepped up in the thread and genuinely seem to be helpful and friendly.

Mashuna · 7th May 2012, 11:46 PM

Originally Posted by AttorneyTom

Well.. I learned a lesson yesterday.

I noticed a thread on this section that was started by a new person and the replies she received were.. I thought.. were very dismissive and not receptive so I stepped in.. I ended in "thread purgatory" where the argumentative folks go. Rightly so...

Edit:

It was not or did not seem like "Auto Woo" to me but just seemed like the "veterans" were making fun of the fact that she was new and did not know things about how the Board worked. What is nice now is that others have stepped up in the thread and genuinely seem to be helpful and friendly.

I've just taken a look at the abandon all hope section for the thread you're talking about. I think you misunderstood the situation there. Ieatthedead (another new person) explains it well, if you want to take another look.

AttorneyTom · 8th May 2012, 05:53 PM

I did. Yes.. misunderstood. Guilty.

Jre1983 · 10th May 2012, 03:58 PM

I think to some degree this is the rule of thumb on any well established forum. Invariably as a newb, everyone already had the discussion you want to have six months ago, and will wave it off or point you to the old one, but a lot of the time there will also be other noobs, or people who missed the last go-round, will take up the call, or even the same people who want more practice at it. After all, reason and critical thinking aren't like riding a bike, use em or lose em. Take the opportunity to address a debate differently, or wave it off and look for something interesting

Even though this is probably a kinder forum than most, all have a kind of "baptism by fire" period of inestimable length. If you can't take old members saying "go away, the thing you like is dumb" I'd seek other noninternet means of socialization.

AttorneyTom · 10th May 2012, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by Jre1983

I think to some degree this is the rule of thumb on any well established forum. Invariably as a newb, everyone already had the discussion you want to have six months ago, and will wave it off or point you to the old one, but a lot of the time there will also be other noobs, or people who missed the last go-round, will take up the call, or even the same people who want more practice at it. After all, reason and critical thinking aren't like riding a bike, use em or lose em. Take the opportunity to address a debate differently, or wave it off and look for something interesting

Even though this is probably a kinder forum than most, all have a kind of "baptism by fire" period of inestimable length. If you can't take old members saying "go away, the thing you like is dumb" I'd seek other noninternet means of socialization.

Well.. I cannot disagree with any of that.

Hi Jre, and welcome !

FSM · 11th May 2012, 06:51 AM

Originally Posted by AttorneyTom

Yes.. not a fan of the " Defend Your Opinion" mindset.

I have learned some things since I have been here and certainly there are some very clever and intelligent folks that regularly post on the Boards.. which is fun !

Welcome! Btw...

AttorneyTom · 11th May 2012, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by FSM

Welcome! Btw...

Thank You FSM !

7th May 2012, 03:57 PM	#82
truethat Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 8,628	That you are not newly trolling, people generally have an idea about your past posting. It's one thing if a newbie starts asking questions about Christianity for example, and quite another if I do or someone else who is a well known atheist. Then it just comes across as stupid to me.
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7th May 2012, 08:24 PM	#83
AttorneyTom Muse Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 883	Well.. I learned a lesson yesterday. I noticed a thread on this section that was started by a new person and the replies she received were.. I thought.. were very dismissive and not receptive so I stepped in.. I ended in "thread purgatory" where the argumentative folks go. Rightly so... Edit: It was not or did not seem like "Auto Woo" to me but just seemed like the "veterans" were making fun of the fact that she was new and did not know things about how the Board worked. What is nice now is that others have stepped up in the thread and genuinely seem to be helpful and friendly.
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8th May 2012, 05:53 PM	#85
AttorneyTom Muse Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 883	I did. Yes.. misunderstood. Guilty.
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10th May 2012, 03:58 PM	#86
Jre1983 New Blood Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 10	I think to some degree this is the rule of thumb on any well established forum. Invariably as a newb, everyone already had the discussion you want to have six months ago, and will wave it off or point you to the old one, but a lot of the time there will also be other noobs, or people who missed the last go-round, will take up the call, or even the same people who want more practice at it. After all, reason and critical thinking aren't like riding a bike, use em or lose em. Take the opportunity to address a debate differently, or wave it off and look for something interesting Even though this is probably a kinder forum than most, all have a kind of "baptism by fire" period of inestimable length. If you can't take old members saying "go away, the thing you like is dumb" I'd seek other noninternet means of socialization.
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10th May 2012, 06:20 PM	#87
AttorneyTom Muse Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 883	Originally Posted by Jre1983 I think to some degree this is the rule of thumb on any well established forum. Invariably as a newb, everyone already had the discussion you want to have six months ago, and will wave it off or point you to the old one, but a lot of the time there will also be other noobs, or people who missed the last go-round, will take up the call, or even the same people who want more practice at it. After all, reason and critical thinking aren't like riding a bike, use em or lose em. Take the opportunity to address a debate differently, or wave it off and look for something interesting Even though this is probably a kinder forum than most, all have a kind of "baptism by fire" period of inestimable length. If you can't take old members saying "go away, the thing you like is dumb" I'd seek other noninternet means of socialization. Well.. I cannot disagree with any of that. Hi Jre, and welcome !
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7th May 2012, 03:55 PM	#81
SezMe post-pre-born Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Santa Barbara, CA Posts: 16,374	Originally Posted by truethat I think if you've been a poster for a long time or have many posts that should be an indication of something. What?

7th May 2012, 11:46 PM	#84
Mashuna Ovis ex Machina Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Welsh Wales Posts: 6,582	Originally Posted by AttorneyTom Well.. I learned a lesson yesterday. I noticed a thread on this section that was started by a new person and the replies she received were.. I thought.. were very dismissive and not receptive so I stepped in.. I ended in "thread purgatory" where the argumentative folks go. Rightly so... Edit: It was not or did not seem like "Auto Woo" to me but just seemed like the "veterans" were making fun of the fact that she was new and did not know things about how the Board worked. What is nice now is that others have stepped up in the thread and genuinely seem to be helpful and friendly. I've just taken a look at the abandon all hope section for the thread you're talking about. I think you misunderstood the situation there. Ieatthedead (another new person) explains it well, if you want to take another look.

11th May 2012, 06:51 AM	#88
FSM god Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sandpit...looking for strokes Posts: 2,305	Originally Posted by AttorneyTom Yes.. not a fan of the " Defend Your Opinion" mindset. I have learned some things since I have been here and certainly there are some very clever and intelligent folks that regularly post on the Boards.. which is fun ! Welcome! Btw...
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11th May 2012, 02:42 PM	#89
AttorneyTom Muse Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 883	Originally Posted by FSM Welcome! Btw... Thank You FSM !
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