FREE TAPATALK APP

Akhenaten · 4th May 2012, 11:26 PM

Originally Posted by DOC

If God exists miracles are possible.

If the Aten exists then we should see this really bright light appear on the horizon every morning.

Check tomorrow and let me know what you see.

Akhenaten · 4th May 2012, 11:36 PM

Originally Posted by DOC

So you don't believe Deists believe in a God?

I don't believe that the prophecy mentioned here has been fulfilled:

Originally Posted by dafydd

Isaiah 52:1 Awake, awake; put on thy strength, O Zion; put on thy beautiful garments, O Jerusalem, the holy city: for henceforth there shall no more come into thee the uncircumcised and the unclean.

See if you can respond without using the words "if" and "might" to dishonestly insert your own fanciful conditions into it.

Akhenaten · 4th May 2012, 11:40 PM

Originally Posted by DOC

Some of them:

From Thomas Jefferson's book: "The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth"

<off-topic proselytising>

Behold! Fulfilled prophecy!

Originally Posted by dafydd

He'll be back with the same old arguments that have been shot down many times before. Most of us learn from experience.

Akhenaten · 4th May 2012, 11:44 PM

Originally Posted by DOC;

Originally Posted by joobz

Let's see how he ends the story of Jesus:

"There laid they Jesus,
And rolled a great stone to the door of the sepulchre, and departed."

Strange...
seems something is missing, but I can't tell what?
Can you help me with this...

Maybe this book might help:

http://magazine.townhall.com/david-barton

No, it won't, because:

Originally Posted by AdinDraco

A list of presidents who believed(for example) is evidence for presidents that believed, not whether that belief is true. Most everyone, including me, has explained this to you many times and either there is a serious disconnect going on or some fairly aggrevious intellectual dishonesty.

Do you think these posts go away just because you ignore them?

I must be your worst nightmare sometimes.

Lowpro · 4th May 2012, 11:45 PM

Originally Posted by Akhenaten

Behold! Fulfilled prophecy!

It seems this thread has reached an end then?

Quote:

I must be your worst nightmare sometimes.

His worst nightmare is the Hell he knows he's going to for bearing false witness

Akhenaten · 5th May 2012, 12:02 AM

Originally Posted by Lowpro

Originally Posted by Akhenaten

Behold! Fulfilled prophecy!

It seems this thread has reached an end then?

Sort of. I'd suggest that it's fair to say that it's reached a logical conclusion but that probably happened months ago.

For good or ill, however, DOC will persist with utterly illogical dreck for years, just like TTTWND.

Speaking of which, try this on for laughs:

Quote:

This is Doc. For the record I have made a lot more threads on Randi then are shown in my thread history. For example the thread "Evidence for why we know the New Testament Writers told the truth" is not listed in my list of threads. Here is the link:
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.p...46#post5959646

The really funny part is where it was posted.

Originally Posted by Lowpro

Originally Posted by Akhenaten

I must be your worst nightmare sometimes.

His worst nightmare is the Hell he knows he's going to for bearing false witness

I think he avoids that by reading from the DOC Revised Version:

Exodus 23:1

Thou shalt not raise a false report: put not thine hand with the wicked to be an unrighteous witness, save that thou liest for Jesus.

Akhenaten · 5th May 2012, 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by DOC

I guess we are getting off topic but he left out the part that is the reason the apostles were martyred, Christianity spread like wildfire, and we are all talking about all of this 2000 years later.

You might be getting off the topic but I'm not.

Where is your response to this:

Originally Posted by Akhenaten

Ezekiel 26:14

And I will make thee like the top of a rock: thou shalt be a place to spread nets upon; thou shalt be built no more: for I the LORD have spoken it, saith the Lord GOD.

Acts 12:20

And Herod was highly displeased with them of Tyre and Sidon: but they came with one accord to him, and, having made Blastus the king's chamberlain their friend, desired peace; because their country was nourished by the king's country.

One of these things is not like the other thing.

Is it that you don't understand the problem with the above, DOC? Would you like me to explain it to you?

DrDave · 5th May 2012, 01:31 AM

Originally Posted by Akhenaten

Behold! Fulfilled prophecy!

Now we just wait for dafyyd's account to be resurrected and there's more evidence of their divinity than there is for Jesus.

Mojo · 5th May 2012, 01:36 AM

Originally Posted by Akhenaten

For good or ill, however, DOC will persist with utterly illogical dreck for years, just like TTTWND.

Speaking of which, try this on for laughs:

Quote:

This is Doc. For the record I have made a lot more threads on Randi then are shown in my thread history. For example the thread "Evidence for why we know the New Testament Writers told the truth" is not listed in my list of threads. Here is the link:
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.p...46#post5959646

Oddly, when I go to his profile and click on "Find all threads started by DOC" it is right there in the list, currently the 20th result.

Akhenaten · 5th May 2012, 01:43 AM

Originally Posted by Mojo

Oddly, when I go to his profile and click on "Find all threads started by DOC" it is right there in the list, currently the 20th result.

Sometimes DOC's mad research skills are . . . less than they could be.

Belated congratulations, by the way, on achieving 20,000 posts - a doubly special milestone since you did it the hard way rather than the machine-gun-dross-in-Humor-and-FC method.

Akhenaten · 5th May 2012, 02:05 AM

Originally Posted by DrDave

Now we just wait for dafyyd's account to be resurrected and there's more evidence of their divinity than there is for Jesus.

I've never doubted Dai's davinity.

Sorry.

Mojo · 5th May 2012, 02:43 AM

Originally Posted by Akhenaten

Sometimes DOC's mad research skills are . . . less than they could be.

Belated congratulations, by the way, on achieving 20,000 posts - a doubly special milestone since you did it the hard way rather than the machine-gun-dross-in-Humor-and-FC method.

Thank you!

And thanks for the pizza!

Akhenaten · 5th May 2012, 02:47 AM

Originally Posted by Mojo

Thank you!

And thanks for the pizza!

I guess I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.

Fast Eddie B · 5th May 2012, 04:07 AM

Originally Posted by DOC

I guess we are getting off topic but he left out the part that is the reason the apostles were martyred, Christianity spread like wildfire, and we are all talking about all of this 2000 years later.

In general, I think recycling is a good idea...

...but it has it's limits.

archspoiler · 8th May 2012, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by DOC

You got to wonder then why Thomas Jefferson took the time and energy to cut out biblical verses and paste them in a 60+ page book and translate them into 4 languages (in the book), and basically call them the greatest morality the world has known... (Yes, and I know Jefferson wasn't a mainline Christian, but he did call himself a Christian.)

So Jefferson took a bronze-age trashy beach novel, cut out all the magickal bitz and got to something quite intriguing. Why is this a surprise? Parts of the messages in the bible are fine, other parts aren't: he cut out the krazy bitz. And in case you weren't really paying much attention, the parts he cut out are the parts you think matter (so you might not want to use our greates President/Architect and non-Christian (theist instead) as a supporter of your position....).

Originally Posted by DOC

I doubt Jefferson would do the same with any beach novels I've read.)

I don't think I claimed that the bible was any trashy beach novel, just that it was one.

DOC · 10th May 2012, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by Akhenaten

Sometimes DOC's mad research skills are . . . less than they could be.

One reason is I can't see a list of all people's posts like I used to be able to do for some reason.

For example if I hit the "replies" figure (on my Incredible Odds thread) that is on the front Religion and Philosophy page it will show I have 229 replies in the thread. In the past when I would then hit the "229" all of my posts would come up. It doesn't do that anymore. It now just lists:

Pgs. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

but when I hit those pages numbers, nothing comes up, so I can no longer see all of my replies listed or anyone elses.

I asked a moderator and they said theirs worked, and said to clear my cache. That didn't help, so oh well.

And my search function usually does the same thing.

Akhenaten · 10th May 2012, 07:38 AM

Originally Posted by DOC

One reason is I can't see a list of all people's posts like I used to be able to do for some reason.

<words>

Can you see this?

Originally Posted by Akhenaten

Ezekiel 26:14

And I will make thee like the top of a rock: thou shalt be a place to spread nets upon; thou shalt be built no more: for I the LORD have spoken it, saith the Lord GOD.

Acts 12:20

And Herod was highly displeased with them of Tyre and Sidon: but they came with one accord to him, and, having made Blastus the king's chamberlain their friend, desired peace; because their country was nourished by the king's country.

One of these things is not like the other thing.

RoboTimbo · 10th May 2012, 07:57 AM

Originally Posted by DOC

One reason is I can't see a list of all people's posts like I used to be able to do for some reason.

For example if I hit the "replies" figure (on my Incredible Odds thread) that is on the front Religion and Philosophy page it will show I have 229 replies in the thread. In the past when I would then hit the "229" all of my posts would come up. It doesn't do that anymore. It now just lists:

Pgs. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

but when I hit those pages numbers, nothing comes up, so I can no longer see all of my replies listed or anyone elses.

I asked a moderator and they said theirs worked, and said to clear my cache. That didn't help, so oh well.

And my search function usually does the same thing.

You might try just reading unread messages in the thread and replying to the issues that are pointed out in your arguments.

zooterkin · 10th May 2012, 08:43 AM

Originally Posted by DOC

For example if I hit the "replies" figure (on my Incredible Odds thread) that is on the front Religion and Philosophy page it will show I have 229 replies in the thread. In the past when I would then hit the "229" all of my posts would come up.

Why would you want to do that? Didn't you read them when you posted them?

Agatha · 10th May 2012, 08:52 AM

Why are you searching for your own posts, Doc? Surely it's other people's posts you need to be reading, in order to reply to them. If you only want to read and reply to your own posts, a blog is a better medium than a discussion board.

Anyway, about those fulfilled prophecies. Do we have any yet?

Helen · 10th May 2012, 09:05 AM

You want him to come up with new answers, all of a sudden, instead of just repeating old posts? Now you are just being unreasonable. Besides, if you want him to do that, you will have to wait untill Tuesday or Wednesday. That's when he gets his new answers.

Akhenaten · 10th May 2012, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by zooterkin

Why would you want to do that? Didn't you read them when you posted them?

That's a rhetorical question, isn't it?

Akhenaten · 10th May 2012, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by DOC

. . . but when I hit those pages numbers, nothing comes up, so I can no longer see all of my replies listed or anyone elses.

Yeah, I checked it out and all of your posts have, in fact, disappeared and you'll have to start again.

So . . .

Do you have any evidence of fulfilled bible prophecies?

dropzone · 10th May 2012, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by Akhenaten

If the Aten exists then we should see this really bright light appear on the horizon every morning.

Check tomorrow and let me know what you see.

It appeared that day and every day since, except when it was raining. But even then, when the skies cleared, it was there in exactly the same place that could be predicted by its movements in the many, many days it has been observed. Let us all praise the Aten for its warming presence and clocklike predictability!

Looks like you picked the right horse, your Godliness.

Akhenaten · 10th May 2012, 10:58 AM

Woohoo!

I'll just fire off a quick email to Benny the Rat and have him send me the keys to the Popemobile.

joobz · 10th May 2012, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by DOC

One reason is I can't see a list of all people's posts like I used to be able to do for some reason.

For example if I hit the "replies" figure (on my Incredible Odds thread) that is on the front Religion and Philosophy page it will show I have 229 replies in the thread. In the past when I would then hit the "229" all of my posts would come up. It doesn't do that anymore. It now just lists:

Pgs. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

but when I hit those pages numbers, nothing comes up, so I can no longer see all of my replies listed or anyone elses.

I asked a moderator and they said theirs worked, and said to clear my cache. That didn't help, so oh well.

And my search function usually does the same thing.

Change browsers.
I recommend Chrome.

Elizabeth I · 10th May 2012, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by DOC

One reason is I can't see a list of all people's posts like I used to be able to do for some reason.

And my search function usually does the same thing.

http://forums.randi.org/search.php?searchid=794258

...and I don't have particularly mad Internet skillz, either.

catsmate1 · 10th May 2012, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by Elizabeth I

http://forums.randi.org/search.php?searchid=794258

...and I don't have particularly mad Internet skillz, either.

Site searches are volatile, that link is dead.

Akhenaten · 10th May 2012, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by catsmate1

Originally Posted by Elizabeth I

http://forums.randi.org/search.php?searchid=794258

...and I don't have particularly mad Internet skillz, either.

Site searches are volatile, that link is dead.

It wasn't when I took this screenshot though.

zooterkin · 10th May 2012, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by Akhenaten

That's a rhetorical question, isn't it?

Do you want me to answer that?

Akhenaten · 10th May 2012, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by zooterkin

Do you want me to answer that?

No, I think you should just let the post speak for itself, otherwise next Wednesday will be another no information day that doesn't address a red flag of mine. Also, Thomas Jefferson and my 195 posts in this thread.

Mojo · 10th May 2012, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by Akhenaten

It wasn't when I took this screenshot though.

The forum doesn't really look that colour to you, does it?

Akhenaten · 10th May 2012, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by Mojo

The forum doesn't really look that colour to you, does it?

Only DOC-related pages, strangely. Everything else comes up in the default colour scheme.

I think it's something built into the software to remind me that I should have a glass of wine before proceeding.

Elizabeth I · 10th May 2012, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by catsmate1

Site searches are volatile, that link is dead.

Interesting - I didn't know that. Thanks!

(well, I said my skillz weren't mad, didn't I?

)

DOC · 11th May 2012, 03:17 PM

Regarding prophecy, there was an interesting comment made in the DVD made by former atheist and legal editor of at the Chicago Tribune, Lee Strobel. Here is the DVD.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Case-Chris.../dp/B000SAGGPA

From my memory of this DVD which I saw about 5 weeks ago, someone said (I think it was Strobel) that they presented the text of Isaiah Chapter 53 to some people at work "without saying it was from the bible" and asked the people who does it sound like, and each person said Jesus Christ.

Some of you ought to try it to people you know. If most of the people you show it to says it sounds like Christ, you have evidence of a fulfilled prophecy.

joobz · 11th May 2012, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by DOC

Regarding prophecy, there was an interesting comment made in the DVD made by former atheist and legal editor of at the Chicago Tribune, Lee Strobel. Here is the DVD.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Case-Chris.../dp/B000SAGGPA

From my memory of this DVD which I saw about 5 weeks ago, someone said (I think it was Strobel) that they presented the text of Isaiah Chapter 53 to some people at work "without saying it was from the bible" and asked the people who does it sound like, and each person said Jesus Christ.

Some of you ought to try it to people you know. If most of the people you show it to says it sounds like Christ, you have evidence of a fulfilled prophecy.

No, you don't.
You have evidence of people who live in a culturally christian country.

ETA:
If I were to ask people who does this describe?
"Neither shall live while the other survives..."
and they guessed right, would that be evidence of a fulfilled prophecy?

catsmate1 · 11th May 2012, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by DOC

Regarding prophecy, there was an interesting comment made in the DVD made by former atheist and legal editor of at the Chicago Tribune, Lee Strobel. Here is the DVD.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Case-Chris.../dp/B000SAGGPA

From my memory of this DVD which I saw about 5 weeks ago, someone said (I think it was Strobel) that they presented the text of Isaiah Chapter 53 to some people at work "without saying it was from the bible" and asked the people who does it sound like, and each person said Jesus Christ.

Some of you ought to try it to people you know. If most of the people you show it to says it sounds like Christ, you have evidence of a fulfilled prophecy.

Cultural familiarity. And I see you're still pushing (or just parroting) the lie that Strobel was once an atheist.

Fast Eddie B · 11th May 2012, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by DOC

If most of the people you show it to says it sounds like Christ, you have evidence of a fulfilled prophecy.

Silly.

DOC · 11th May 2012, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by catsmate1

Cultural familiarity. And I see you're still pushing (or just parroting) the lie that Strobel was once an atheist.

Well that's what he says in the DVD.

joobz · 11th May 2012, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by DOC

Well that's what he says in the DVD.

He says it's cultural familiarity?
I agree with that.
As such, it is no evidence of fulfilled prophecy.

4th May 2012, 11:26 PM	#2481
Akhenaten Heretic Pharaoh Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pi-Broadford, Australia Posts: 24,749	Originally Posted by DOC If God exists miracles are possible. If the Aten exists then we should see this really bright light appear on the horizon every morning. Check tomorrow and let me know what you see.
	__________________ Life is mostly Froth and Bubble - Adam Lindsay Gordon The Australasian Skeptics Forum

4th May 2012, 11:36 PM	#2482
Akhenaten Heretic Pharaoh Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pi-Broadford, Australia Posts: 24,749	Originally Posted by DOC So you don't believe Deists believe in a God? I don't believe that the prophecy mentioned here has been fulfilled: Originally Posted by dafydd Isaiah 52:1 Awake, awake; put on thy strength, O Zion; put on thy beautiful garments, O Jerusalem, the holy city: for henceforth there shall no more come into thee the uncircumcised and the unclean. See if you can respond without using the words "if" and "might" to dishonestly insert your own fanciful conditions into it.
	__________________ Life is mostly Froth and Bubble - Adam Lindsay Gordon The Australasian Skeptics Forum

4th May 2012, 11:40 PM	#2483
Akhenaten Heretic Pharaoh Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pi-Broadford, Australia Posts: 24,749	Originally Posted by DOC Some of them: From Thomas Jefferson's book: "The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth" <off-topic proselytising> Behold! Fulfilled prophecy! Originally Posted by dafydd He'll be back with the same old arguments that have been shot down many times before. Most of us learn from experience.
	__________________ Life is mostly Froth and Bubble - Adam Lindsay Gordon The Australasian Skeptics Forum

4th May 2012, 11:44 PM	#2484
Akhenaten Heretic Pharaoh Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pi-Broadford, Australia Posts: 24,749	Originally Posted by DOC; Originally Posted by joobz Let's see how he ends the story of Jesus: "There laid they Jesus, And rolled a great stone to the door of the sepulchre, and departed." Strange... seems something is missing, but I can't tell what? Can you help me with this... Maybe this book might help: http://magazine.townhall.com/david-barton No, it won't, because: Originally Posted by AdinDraco A list of presidents who believed(for example) is evidence for presidents that believed, not whether that belief is true. Most everyone, including me, has explained this to you many times and either there is a serious disconnect going on or some fairly aggrevious intellectual dishonesty. Do you think these posts go away just because you ignore them? I must be your worst nightmare sometimes.
	__________________ Life is mostly Froth and Bubble - Adam Lindsay Gordon The Australasian Skeptics Forum Last edited by Akhenaten; 4th May 2012 at 11:47 PM.

4th May 2012, 11:45 PM	#2485
Lowpro Illuminator Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 4,644	Originally Posted by Akhenaten Behold! Fulfilled prophecy! It seems this thread has reached an end then? Quote: I must be your worst nightmare sometimes. His worst nightmare is the Hell he knows he's going to for bearing false witness
	__________________ "If I actually believed that Jesus was coming to end the world in 2050, I'd be preparing by stocking up on timber and nails" - PZ Myers Last edited by Lowpro; 4th May 2012 at 11:46 PM.

5th May 2012, 12:02 AM	#2486
Akhenaten Heretic Pharaoh Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pi-Broadford, Australia Posts: 24,749	Originally Posted by Lowpro Originally Posted by Akhenaten Behold! Fulfilled prophecy! It seems this thread has reached an end then? Sort of. I'd suggest that it's fair to say that it's reached a logical conclusion but that probably happened months ago. For good or ill, however, DOC will persist with utterly illogical dreck for years, just like TTTWND. Speaking of which, try this on for laughs: Quote: This is Doc. For the record I have made a lot more threads on Randi then are shown in my thread history. For example the thread "Evidence for why we know the New Testament Writers told the truth" is not listed in my list of threads. Here is the link: http://forums.randi.org/showthread.p...46#post5959646 The really funny part is where it was posted. Originally Posted by Lowpro Originally Posted by Akhenaten I must be your worst nightmare sometimes. His worst nightmare is the Hell he knows he's going to for bearing false witness I think he avoids that by reading from the DOC Revised Version: Exodus 23:1 Thou shalt not raise a false report: put not thine hand with the wicked to be an unrighteous witness, save that thou liest for Jesus.
	__________________ Life is mostly Froth and Bubble - Adam Lindsay Gordon The Australasian Skeptics Forum

5th May 2012, 12:08 AM	#2487
Akhenaten Heretic Pharaoh Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pi-Broadford, Australia Posts: 24,749	Originally Posted by DOC I guess we are getting off topic but he left out the part that is the reason the apostles were martyred, Christianity spread like wildfire, and we are all talking about all of this 2000 years later. *You* might be getting off the topic but I'm not. Where is your response to this: Originally Posted by Akhenaten Ezekiel 26:14 And I will make thee like the top of a rock: thou shalt be a place to spread nets upon; thou shalt be built no more: for I the LORD have spoken it, saith the Lord GOD. Acts 12:20 And Herod was highly displeased with them of Tyre and Sidon: but they came with one accord to him, and, having made Blastus the king's chamberlain their friend, desired peace; because their country was nourished by the king's country. One of these things is not like the other thing. Is it that you don't understand the problem with the above, DOC? Would you like me to explain it to you?
	__________________ Life is mostly Froth and Bubble - Adam Lindsay Gordon The Australasian Skeptics Forum

5th May 2012, 01:31 AM	#2488
DrDave Illuminator Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Geneva Posts: 3,137	Originally Posted by Akhenaten Behold! Fulfilled prophecy! Now we just wait for dafyyd's account to be resurrected and there's more evidence of their divinity than there is for Jesus.

5th May 2012, 01:36 AM	#2489
Mojo Mostly harmless Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nor Flanden Posts: 22,489	Originally Posted by Akhenaten For good or ill, however, DOC will persist with utterly illogical dreck for years, just like TTTWND. Speaking of which, try this on for laughs: Quote: This is Doc. For the record I have made a lot more threads on Randi then are shown in my thread history. For example the thread "Evidence for why we know the New Testament Writers told the truth" is not listed in my list of threads. Here is the link: http://forums.randi.org/showthread.p...46#post5959646 Oddly, when I go to his profile and click on "Find all threads started by DOC" it is right there in the list, currently the 20th result.
	__________________ "You got to use your brain." - McKinley Morganfield "The poor mystic homeopaths feel like petted house-cats thrown at high flood on the breaking ice." - Leon Trotsky

5th May 2012, 01:43 AM	#2490
Akhenaten Heretic Pharaoh Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pi-Broadford, Australia Posts: 24,749	Originally Posted by Mojo Oddly, when I go to his profile and click on "Find all threads started by DOC" it is right there in the list, currently the 20th result. Sometimes DOC's mad research skills are . . . less than they could be. Belated congratulations, by the way, on achieving 20,000 posts - a doubly special milestone since you did it the hard way rather than the machine-gun-dross-in-Humor-and-FC method.
	__________________ Life is mostly Froth and Bubble - Adam Lindsay Gordon The Australasian Skeptics Forum Last edited by Akhenaten; 5th May 2012 at 02:00 AM. Reason: speeling

5th May 2012, 02:05 AM	#2491
Akhenaten Heretic Pharaoh Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pi-Broadford, Australia Posts: 24,749	Originally Posted by DrDave Now we just wait for dafyyd's account to be resurrected and there's more evidence of their divinity than there is for Jesus. I've never doubted Dai's davinity. Sorry.
	__________________ Life is mostly Froth and Bubble - Adam Lindsay Gordon The Australasian Skeptics Forum

5th May 2012, 02:43 AM	#2492
Mojo Mostly harmless Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nor Flanden Posts: 22,489	Originally Posted by Akhenaten Sometimes DOC's mad research skills are . . . less than they could be. Belated congratulations, by the way, on achieving 20,000 posts - a doubly special milestone since you did it the hard way rather than the machine-gun-dross-in-Humor-and-FC method. Thank you! And thanks for the pizza!
	__________________ "You got to use your brain." - McKinley Morganfield "The poor mystic homeopaths feel like petted house-cats thrown at high flood on the breaking ice." - Leon Trotsky

5th May 2012, 02:47 AM	#2493
Akhenaten Heretic Pharaoh Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pi-Broadford, Australia Posts: 24,749	Originally Posted by Mojo Thank you! And thanks for the pizza! I guess I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.
	__________________ Life is mostly Froth and Bubble - Adam Lindsay Gordon The Australasian Skeptics Forum

5th May 2012, 04:07 AM	#2494
Fast Eddie B Graduate Poster Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mineral Bluff, GA Posts: 1,122	Originally Posted by DOC I guess we are getting off topic but he left out the part that is the reason the apostles were martyred, Christianity spread like wildfire, and we are all talking about all of this 2000 years later. In general, I think recycling is a good idea... ...but it has it's limits.

8th May 2012, 04:59 PM	#2495
archspoiler New Blood Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 18	Originally Posted by DOC You got to wonder then why Thomas Jefferson took the time and energy to cut out biblical verses and paste them in a 60+ page book and translate them into 4 languages (in the book), and basically call them the greatest morality the world has known... (Yes, and I know Jefferson wasn't a mainline Christian, but he did call himself a Christian.) So Jefferson took a bronze-age trashy beach novel, cut out all the magickal bitz and got to something quite intriguing. Why is this a surprise? Parts of the messages in the bible are fine, other parts aren't: he cut out the krazy bitz. And in case you weren't really paying much attention, the parts he cut out are the parts you think matter (so you might not want to use our greates President/Architect and non-Christian (theist instead) as a supporter of your position....). Originally Posted by DOC I doubt Jefferson would do the same with any beach novels I've read.) I don't think I claimed that the bible was any trashy beach novel, just that it was one.
archspoiler New Blood Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 18	Last edited by archspoiler; 8th May 2012 at 05:09 PM. Reason: formatting issues....

10th May 2012, 07:33 AM	#2496
DOC Philosopher Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: USA Posts: 7,784	Originally Posted by Akhenaten Sometimes DOC's mad research skills are . . . less than they could be. One reason is I can't see a list of all people's posts like I used to be able to do for some reason. For example if I hit the "replies" figure (on my Incredible Odds thread) that is on the front Religion and Philosophy page it will show I have 229 replies in the thread. In the past when I would then hit the "229" all of my posts would come up. It doesn't do that anymore. It now just lists: Pgs. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 but when I hit those pages numbers, nothing comes up, so I can no longer see all of my replies listed or anyone elses. I asked a moderator and they said theirs worked, and said to clear my cache. That didn't help, so oh well. And my search function usually does the same thing.
	Last edited by DOC; 10th May 2012 at 07:36 AM.

10th May 2012, 07:38 AM	#2497
Akhenaten Heretic Pharaoh Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pi-Broadford, Australia Posts: 24,749	Originally Posted by DOC One reason is I can't see a list of all people's posts like I used to be able to do for some reason. <words> Can you see this? Originally Posted by Akhenaten Ezekiel 26:14 And I will make thee like the top of a rock: thou shalt be a place to spread nets upon; thou shalt be built no more: for I the LORD have spoken it, saith the Lord GOD. Acts 12:20 And Herod was highly displeased with them of Tyre and Sidon: but they came with one accord to him, and, having made Blastus the king's chamberlain their friend, desired peace; because their country was nourished by the king's country. One of these things is not like the other thing.
	__________________ Life is mostly Froth and Bubble - Adam Lindsay Gordon The Australasian Skeptics Forum

10th May 2012, 07:57 AM	#2498
RoboTimbo Hostile Nanobacon Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Prosperity, AZ Posts: 22,056	Originally Posted by DOC One reason is I can't see a list of all people's posts like I used to be able to do for some reason. For example if I hit the "replies" figure (on my Incredible Odds thread) that is on the front Religion and Philosophy page it will show I have 229 replies in the thread. In the past when I would then hit the "229" all of my posts would come up. It doesn't do that anymore. It now just lists: Pgs. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 but when I hit those pages numbers, nothing comes up, so I can no longer see all of my replies listed or anyone elses. I asked a moderator and they said theirs worked, and said to clear my cache. That didn't help, so oh well. And my search function usually does the same thing. You might try just reading unread messages in the thread and replying to the issues that are pointed out in your arguments.

10th May 2012, 08:43 AM	#2499
zooterkin Nitpicking dilettante Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Berkshire, mostly Posts: 25,040	Originally Posted by DOC For example if I hit the "replies" figure (on my Incredible Odds thread) that is on the front Religion and Philosophy page it will show I have 229 replies in the thread. In the past when I would then hit the "229" all of my posts would come up. Why would you want to do that? Didn't you read them when you posted them?
	__________________ The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts.Bertrand Russell Zooterkin is correct Darat Nerd! Hokulele Join the JREF Folders ! Team 13232

10th May 2012, 08:52 AM	#2500
Agatha Winking at the Moon Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Posts: 4,303	Why are you searching for your own posts, Doc? Surely it's other people's posts you need to be reading, in order to reply to them. If you only want to read and reply to your own posts, a blog is a better medium than a discussion board. Anyway, about those fulfilled prophecies. Do we have any yet?
	__________________ People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually, from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint - it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly... timey wimey... stuff.

10th May 2012, 09:05 AM	#2501
Helen Implicitly explicit Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Here. Or very nearly getting there, at least. Posts: 2,141	You want him to come up with new answers, all of a sudden, instead of just repeating old posts? Now you are just being unreasonable. Besides, if you want him to do that, you will have to wait untill Tuesday or Wednesday. That's when he gets his new answers.

10th May 2012, 09:18 AM	#2502
Akhenaten Heretic Pharaoh Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pi-Broadford, Australia Posts: 24,749	Originally Posted by zooterkin Why would you want to do that? Didn't you read them when you posted them? That's a rhetorical question, isn't it?
	__________________ Life is mostly Froth and Bubble - Adam Lindsay Gordon The Australasian Skeptics Forum

10th May 2012, 09:23 AM	#2503
Akhenaten Heretic Pharaoh Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pi-Broadford, Australia Posts: 24,749	Originally Posted by DOC . . . but when I hit those pages numbers, nothing comes up, so I can no longer see all of my replies listed or anyone elses. Yeah, I checked it out and all of your posts have, in fact, disappeared and you'll have to start again. So . . . Do you have any evidence of fulfilled bible prophecies?
	__________________ Life is mostly Froth and Bubble - Adam Lindsay Gordon The Australasian Skeptics Forum

10th May 2012, 10:46 AM	#2504
dropzone Graduate Poster Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1,667	Originally Posted by Akhenaten If the Aten exists then we should see this really bright light appear on the horizon every morning. Check tomorrow and let me know what you see. It appeared that day and every day since, except when it was raining. But even then, when the skies cleared, it was there in exactly the same place that could be predicted by its movements in the many, many days it has been observed. Let us all praise the Aten for its warming presence and clocklike predictability! Looks like you picked the right horse, your Godliness.

10th May 2012, 10:58 AM	#2505
Akhenaten Heretic Pharaoh Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pi-Broadford, Australia Posts: 24,749	Woohoo! I'll just fire off a quick email to Benny the Rat and have him send me the keys to the Popemobile.
	__________________ Life is mostly Froth and Bubble - Adam Lindsay Gordon The Australasian Skeptics Forum

10th May 2012, 10:59 AM	#2506
joobz Tergiversator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: That's how you get ants Posts: 17,586	Originally Posted by DOC One reason is I can't see a list of all people's posts like I used to be able to do for some reason. For example if I hit the "replies" figure (on my Incredible Odds thread) that is on the front Religion and Philosophy page it will show I have 229 replies in the thread. In the past when I would then hit the "229" all of my posts would come up. It doesn't do that anymore. It now just lists: Pgs. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 but when I hit those pages numbers, nothing comes up, so I can no longer see all of my replies listed or anyone elses. I asked a moderator and they said theirs worked, and said to clear my cache. That didn't help, so oh well. And my search function usually does the same thing. Change browsers. I recommend Chrome.
	__________________ What's the best argument for UHC? This argument against UHC. "Perhaps one reason per capita GDP is lower in UHC countries is because they've tried to prevent this important function [bankrupting the sick] and thus carry forward considerable economic dead wood?"-BeAChooser

10th May 2012, 12:16 PM	#2507
Elizabeth I Olympic Equestrian Wannabe Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Defending the Alamo Posts: 9,358	Originally Posted by DOC One reason is I can't see a list of all people's posts like I used to be able to do for some reason. And my search function usually does the same thing. http://forums.randi.org/search.php?searchid=794258 ...and I don't have particularly mad Internet skillz, either.
	__________________ • There is something about the outside of a horse that is good for the inside of a man. - Winston Churchill • Never wrestle with a pig - you just get dirty and the pig enjoys it. • My blog: Pardon me, may I ask...

10th May 2012, 12:54 PM	#2508
catsmate1 Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Dublin (the one in Ireland) Posts: 7,247	Originally Posted by Elizabeth I http://forums.randi.org/search.php?searchid=794258 ...and I don't have particularly mad Internet skillz, either. Site searches are volatile, that link is dead.

10th May 2012, 01:12 PM	#2509
Akhenaten Heretic Pharaoh Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pi-Broadford, Australia Posts: 24,749	Originally Posted by catsmate1 Originally Posted by Elizabeth I http://forums.randi.org/search.php?searchid=794258 ...and I don't have particularly mad Internet skillz, either. Site searches are volatile, that link is dead. It wasn't when I took this screenshot though.
	__________________ Life is mostly Froth and Bubble - Adam Lindsay Gordon The Australasian Skeptics Forum

10th May 2012, 02:46 PM	#2510
zooterkin Nitpicking dilettante Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Berkshire, mostly Posts: 25,040	Originally Posted by Akhenaten That's a rhetorical question, isn't it? Do you want me to answer that?
	__________________ The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts.Bertrand Russell Zooterkin is correct Darat Nerd! Hokulele Join the JREF Folders ! Team 13232

10th May 2012, 02:54 PM	#2511
Akhenaten Heretic Pharaoh Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pi-Broadford, Australia Posts: 24,749	Originally Posted by zooterkin Do you want me to answer that? No, I think you should just let the post speak for itself, otherwise next Wednesday will be another no information day that doesn't address a red flag of mine. Also, Thomas Jefferson and my 195 posts in this thread.
	__________________ Life is mostly Froth and Bubble - Adam Lindsay Gordon The Australasian Skeptics Forum

10th May 2012, 03:42 PM	#2512
Mojo Mostly harmless Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nor Flanden Posts: 22,489	Originally Posted by Akhenaten It wasn't when I took this screenshot though. The forum doesn't really look that colour to you, does it?
	__________________ "You got to use your brain." - McKinley Morganfield "The poor mystic homeopaths feel like petted house-cats thrown at high flood on the breaking ice." - Leon Trotsky

10th May 2012, 03:50 PM	#2513
Akhenaten Heretic Pharaoh Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pi-Broadford, Australia Posts: 24,749	Originally Posted by Mojo The forum doesn't really look that colour to you, does it? Only DOC-related pages, strangely. Everything else comes up in the default colour scheme. I think it's something built into the software to remind me that I should have a glass of wine before proceeding.
	__________________ Life is mostly Froth and Bubble - Adam Lindsay Gordon The Australasian Skeptics Forum

10th May 2012, 05:14 PM	#2514
Elizabeth I Olympic Equestrian Wannabe Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Defending the Alamo Posts: 9,358	Originally Posted by catsmate1 Site searches are volatile, that link is dead. Interesting - I didn't know that. Thanks! (well, I said my skillz weren't mad, didn't I?)
	__________________ • There is something about the outside of a horse that is good for the inside of a man. - Winston Churchill • Never wrestle with a pig - you just get dirty and the pig enjoys it. • My blog: Pardon me, may I ask...

11th May 2012, 03:17 PM	#2515
DOC Philosopher Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: USA Posts: 7,784	Regarding prophecy, there was an interesting comment made in the DVD made by former atheist and legal editor of at the Chicago Tribune, Lee Strobel. Here is the DVD. http://www.amazon.com/The-Case-Chris.../dp/B000SAGGPA From my memory of this DVD which I saw about 5 weeks ago, someone said (I think it was Strobel) that they presented the text of Isaiah Chapter 53 to some people at work "without saying it was from the bible" and asked the people who does it sound like, and each person said Jesus Christ. Some of you ought to try it to people you know. If most of the people you show it to says it sounds like Christ, you have evidence of a fulfilled prophecy.
	Last edited by DOC; 11th May 2012 at 03:20 PM.