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GreNME · 6th May 2012, 11:32 AM

First and foremost:

I am not suggesting this conspiracy. I don't buy it, and would like to offer better responses to a friend than the dismissals I've offered thus far. As such, I'm asking for help from fellow JREF-ers.

So here's the link: http://publicintelligence.net/restri...ations-manual/

Basically, this site is claiming that the document (PDF) you can view has been downloaded from www.us.army.mil and supposedly came from there. I've skimmed the document and noticed a few things I raised an eyebrow at due to questionable writing abilities, but then again I don't know the writing style of military documents and for all I know they could all be so poorly constructed while trying to look bureaucratically impressive.

This was shared to me by a friend, asking what I thought. I said I thought it was of questionable veracity and that I doubted it highly. My friend wants something a bit more substantial than my doubt to go on, and to be fair I was sarcastic enough in my dismissal to probably have poisoned the well of objective assessment coming from me. And to that end, I'd like to see if you folks have any suggestions on either what paths my friend can follow to verify this or some helpful suggestions to me for not coming at this with smug sarcasm and ruining a good opportunity to help spread the tools for dampening paranoid woo that's constantly flung around the internet.

And before it comes up: yeah, I'm aware that this has mainly been paraded about the Prison Planet / InfoWars website circle. I don't want to focus on that unless there's evidence that AJ and friends are the originators of the document. For now it seems this publicintelligence.net website (which I know nothing about) is allegedly the source point. Since AJ sees conspiracies in his own shadow he's too easy anyway, and folks will just retreat to this other site as the source.

Besides, it seems like the CT subforum has been dominated too much by the Holocaust denial woo. Let this mix it up some.

BazBear · 6th May 2012, 01:20 PM

The document number and title are definitely real, but the DL server on the mil.gov host seems to be down for now, so I couldn't get a copy to compare to this. That said, I've read the intro sections and skimmed some of the rest of it, and I don't see anything nefarious. It's all about the rules and procedures for how MPs are to legally and humanely deal with civilians, refugees, EPWs, U.S. military prisoners etc. in a combat theater. It would be crazy not to have a document like this, laying out what everyone's jobs and responsibilities in such situations are.

ETA-BTW, I don't see a darned thing about "re-education camps" or anything like it.

uke2se · 6th May 2012, 02:44 PM

It's funny reading the comments on the linked site. A couple are reacting reasonably, for example:

Quote:

It’s a really good document, I spent the morning digesting the main manual. This is a subject that has far broader relevance than just civil liberties concerns or partisan beef with Obama — even the moderate 50 year forecasts call for strange weather and spectacular catastrophes, so it won’t just be US MIL dealing with “Internment and Resettlement.”

The considerations and detail brought to bear in FM 3-39.40 make it worth reading, as opposed to just reacting to. Also check out the work of Vinay Gupta, who is a great resource on the real-world logistics of coping with large scale catastrophe.

Then we have the nutters:

Quote:

This is NOT about catastrophe, at least in the natural disaster sense. This is about rounding up dissident Americans and liquidating them when the planned collapse of the Dollar happens! Or I suppose you thought all the foreign troops visiting the USA were just here to play soldier while learning from the best?

This is about the genocide of America.

Emphasis added.

So, we have a military document about detaining and protecting certain kinds of personnel (namely civilians) in a combat area and the nutters immediately jump on it as something bad. This is pretty standard stuff, and I would be very afraid if the military DIDN'T have plans regarding these kinds of operations. Think of the pandemonium that would ensue if nobody knew what to do.

Horatius · 6th May 2012, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by uke2se

So, we have a military document about detaining and protecting certain kinds of personnel (namely civilians) in a combat area and the nutters immediately jump on it as something bad. This is pretty standard stuff, and I would be very afraid if the military DIDN'T have plans regarding these kinds of operations. Think of the pandemonium that would ensue if nobody knew what to do.

I love this bit the most:

Quote:

Or I suppose you thought all the foreign troops visiting the USA were just here to play soldier while learning from the best?

Yes, let's just laugh at those who actually believe the truth...

GreNME · 6th May 2012, 09:08 PM

Thanks guys. Let me know if you get a copy downloaded.

Redtail · 7th May 2012, 12:16 PM

Yeah this was brought up on my football forum.

I downloaded a copy & from a first skim, it seems they have a legit FM with authentic military speak & everything. The OMG factor seems to stem from the DoD using psyop units in POW/detainee camps to prevent riots, identify enemy leaders, accept America as the good guys, etc...

There's also a section on refugee camps including possible ones in America due to natural or man made disasters.

Put these two together & BOOM!!! "Re-education camps!" An easy conclusion to reach, especially if one ignores the part in the refugee section that points out that the policies & procedures are modified due to the circumstances & location. For example, military forces would do little more than help set up camps, transport people & supplies, help with security, etc...

In short, they took two sections out of context & scared themselves.

thedopefishlives · 7th May 2012, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by Redtail

In short, they took two sections out of context & scared themselves.

So in other words, SOP for conspiracy-minded individuals.

ngc6205 · 7th May 2012, 05:07 PM

The introduction section explains the purpose of the document and it is definitely NOT what the nutters ~~think~~ believe.

triforcharity · 7th May 2012, 09:29 PM

Yeah, just read the introduction.

Orphia Nay · 7th May 2012, 10:32 PM

You can download a pdf of FM 3-39.40 from the US Military here:

http://armypubs.army.mil/doctrine/active_fm.html

BazBear · 8th May 2012, 03:52 AM

Originally Posted by Orphia Nay

You can download a pdf of FM 3-39.40 from the US Military here:

http://armypubs.army.mil/doctrine/active_fm.html

I've tried that site already, and just tried again, and I keep getting "SSL peer cannot verify your certificate." error messages.

I believe the copy the OP linked to is probably legit anyway.

Horatius · 8th May 2012, 04:10 AM

Originally Posted by ngc6205

The introduction section explains the purpose of the document and it is definitely NOT what the nutters ~~think~~ believe.

Originally Posted by triforcharity

Yeah, just read the introduction.

The problem with suggesting that is, the nutter will just assume they were lying about what their purpose was. It doesn't matter in the slightest if there's a legitimate military purpose in having such plans; they'll still be interpreted as being covert plans for what They really want to do, which is whatever is bothering the nutter in question at the time.

swright777 · 8th May 2012, 10:49 AM

I am in the US Army. I can't get to the site posted in the OP because it has been blocked (by the army) due to hostile content.

I downloaded FM 3-39.40 from the army.mil network. It does exist and isn't being kept a secret. I can't compare it to the one linked above, but mine is 326 pages. It is titled "INTERNMENT AND RESETTLEMENT OPERATIONS" and is dated February 2010.

There are other suspicious publications here such as:
FM 10-602 "HEADQUARTERS AND HEADQUARTERS UNITS, PETROLEUM AND WATER DISTRIBUTION ORGANIZATION"
FM 21-10 "FIELD HYGIENE AND SANITATION"
FM 21-18 "FOOT MARCHES"
FM 38-701 "PACKAGING OF MATERIAL: PACKING"
FM 10-16 "GENERAL FABRIC REPAIR"
FM 10-23-2 "TACTICS, TECHNIQUES, AND PROCEDURES FOR GARRISON FOOD PREPARATION AND CLASS I OPERATIONS MANAGEMENT"
FM 10-27 "GENERAL SUPPLY IN THEATERS OF OPERATIONS"
FM 10-27-4 "ORGANIZATIONAL SUPPLY FOR UNIT LEADERS"
FM 10-52 "WATER SUPPLY IN THEATERS OF OPERATIONS"

OMG THE ARMY DOES GENERAL FABRIC REPAIR AND USES WATER IN THEATERS OF OPERATION!!!1!!1

ETA: Sorry if it looks like I'm yelling the titles at you. I just did a copy paste from the army pubs site.

Horatius · 8th May 2012, 11:15 AM

Ahem.

[CTModeOn]

Originally Posted by swright777

There are other suspicious publications here such as:
FM 10-602 "HEADQUARTERS AND HEADQUARTERS UNITS, PETROLEUM AND WATER DISTRIBUTION ORGANIZATION"

"Spray the oil over the Interned Citizen, and do not distribute the water, as that might put the flames out."

Quote:

FM 21-10 "FIELD HYGIENE AND SANITATION"

"...is unnecessary, indeed, counter-productive, in Death Camps."

Quote:

FM 21-18 "FOOT MARCHES"

"...are a less-expensive alternative to trains for getting people to Death Camps. Attrition along the route is also a beneficial side effect (for details, see, Bataan, Hiking History of)"

Quote:

FM 38-701 "PACKAGING OF MATERIAL: PACKING"

"Two words: Body Bags."

Quote:

FM 10-16 "GENERAL FABRIC REPAIR"

"Quite often the wretched masses will tear at Death Camp guards in desperate attempts to escape. No one like seeing a guard in a tattered uniform!"

Quote:

FM 10-23-2 "TACTICS, TECHNIQUES, AND PROCEDURES FOR GARRISON FOOD PREPARATION AND CLASS I OPERATIONS MANAGEMENT"

"...are also unnecessary. For further reference, see FM 21-10 "FIELD HYGIENE AND SANITATION""

Quote:

FM 10-27 "GENERAL SUPPLY IN THEATERS OF OPERATIONS"

"It's important to keep the Generals supplied. That's the whole point of our taking over the world, after all!"

Quote:

FM 10-27-4 "ORGANIZATIONAL SUPPLY FOR UNIT LEADERS"

"See FM 10-27, in order to ensure proper levels of supplies for Unit Leaders, as compared to General Officers. There's no way we're letting those punks get all the good liquor and hot chicks!"

Quote:

FM 10-52 "WATER SUPPLY IN THEATERS OF OPERATIONS"

"Ha Ha, okay, you got us there; Theaters will be fully supplied with the finest in food and drink. You didn't really think we'd be watching a movie and only drink water did you?"

[/CTMode]

Spindrift · 8th May 2012, 11:20 AM

They're planning the collapse of the dollar and they can't keep this document secret? I don't think that bodes well for our future overlords.

BazBear · 8th May 2012, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by swright777

I am in the US Army. I can't get to the site posted in the OP because it has been blocked (by the army) due to hostile content.

I downloaded FM 3-39.40 from the army.mil network. It does exist and isn't being kept a secret. I can't compare it to the one linked above, but mine is 326 pages. It is titled "INTERNMENT AND RESETTLEMENT OPERATIONS" and is dated February 2010.

There are other suspicious publications here such as:
FM 10-602 "HEADQUARTERS AND HEADQUARTERS UNITS, PETROLEUM AND WATER DISTRIBUTION ORGANIZATION"
FM 21-10 "FIELD HYGIENE AND SANITATION"
FM 21-18 "FOOT MARCHES"
FM 38-701 "PACKAGING OF MATERIAL: PACKING"
FM 10-16 "GENERAL FABRIC REPAIR"
FM 10-23-2 "TACTICS, TECHNIQUES, AND PROCEDURES FOR GARRISON FOOD PREPARATION AND CLASS I OPERATIONS MANAGEMENT"
FM 10-27 "GENERAL SUPPLY IN THEATERS OF OPERATIONS"
FM 10-27-4 "ORGANIZATIONAL SUPPLY FOR UNIT LEADERS"
FM 10-52 "WATER SUPPLY IN THEATERS OF OPERATIONS"

OMG THE ARMY DOES GENERAL FABRIC REPAIR AND USES WATER IN THEATERS OF OPERATION!!!1!!1

ETA: Sorry if it looks like I'm yelling the titles at you. I just did a copy paste from the army pubs site.

Yep, the one in the OP is 326 pages. I've read through quite a bit of it now, it's just a typical milspeak Army FM (I was in the Army a long time ago), nothing odd or scary at all...at least to us sane types, anyway

Mycroft · 8th May 2012, 12:26 PM

Quoting from the document:

Quote:

1-3. Internment and resettlement operations are conducted my military police to shelter, sustain, buard, protect, and account for populations (detainees, U.S. military prisoners, or dislocated civilians) as a result of military or civil conflict, natural or man-made disaster, or to facilitate criminal prosecution. Internment involves the detainment of a population or group that pose some level of threat to military operations. Resettlement infolves the quartering of a population or group for their protection. These operations inherently control the movement and activities of their specific population for inperative reasons of security, safety or intelligence gathering. I/R operations require detailed advanced planning to provide a save and secure environment. U.S. policies mandate that in addition to U.S. military prisoners, all indificuals captured, interned, evacuated, or held by U.S. armed...blah, blah, blah...

It seems pretty standard fare. If you fight a war, you will end up with some prisoners of war and you have to put them somewhere. You also might need to house refugees from war or disasters. This document just identifies many of the hypothetical situations where this might occur and gives policies on how it's to be done if the need arises.

It would be astonishing if the army didn't have some document like this.

GreNME · 8th May 2012, 06:34 PM

Fantastic results, folks. That document is way too thick for me to have waded through myself and I think just the fact that it's not actually hidden (meaning the "leaked" claim is exaggeration) now makes it look ridiculous.

Much appreciated for the help.

Orphia Nay · 8th May 2012, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by GreNME

Fantastic results, folks. That document is way too thick for me to have waded through myself and I think just the fact that it's not actually hidden (meaning the "leaked" claim is exaggeration) now makes it look ridiculous.

Much appreciated for the help.

I sat on my arse and downloaded a free pdf from a site in plain view. I'm a whistleblower!!!11!!![/conspiritard]

timhau · 9th May 2012, 12:07 PM

Where do I sign up for a re-education camp?

I'd like to get an economics degree. Cognitive science is also fine, if your money camp is full.

Horatius · 9th May 2012, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by timhau

Where do I sign up for a re-education camp?

I'd like to get an economics degree. Cognitive science is also fine, if your money camp is full.

Sorry, the only courses we currently have available are Introduction to Bullet Catching, and Advanced Cyanide Inhalation.

But they both feature hands-on practical exercises!

LSSBB · 9th May 2012, 08:07 PM

Originally Posted by Horatius

Sorry, the only courses we currently have available are Introduction to Bullet Catching, and Advanced Cyanide Inhalation.

But they both feature hands-on practical exercises!

No Underwear Bombing this year?

Horatius · 10th May 2012, 04:44 AM

Originally Posted by LSSBB

No Underwear Bombing this year?

No, that's apparently been taken over by the CIA this year.

Border Reiver · 10th May 2012, 05:21 AM

We are offering a post-graduate course in Resistance to Psychological Stress (12-16 hours of Jersey Shore a day for a week), but only to some of our returning guests.

swright777 · 10th May 2012, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by Horatius

Ahem.

[CTModeOn]
...
...
[/CTMode]

Lololol!

6th May 2012, 11:32 AM	#1
GreNME Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Folsom Prison Posts: 8,283	Oh Em Gee Internment / Re-Education Camps !!eleventyone! First and foremost: I am not suggesting this conspiracy. I don't buy it, and would like to offer better responses to a friend than the dismissals I've offered thus far. As such, I'm asking for help from fellow JREF-ers. So here's the link: http://publicintelligence.net/restri...ations-manual/ Basically, this site is claiming that the document (PDF) you can view has been downloaded from www.us.army.mil and supposedly came from there. I've skimmed the document and noticed a few things I raised an eyebrow at due to questionable writing abilities, but then again I don't know the writing style of military documents and for all I know they could all be so poorly constructed while trying to look bureaucratically impressive. This was shared to me by a friend, asking what I thought. I said I thought it was of questionable veracity and that I doubted it highly. My friend wants something a bit more substantial than my doubt to go on, and to be fair I was sarcastic enough in my dismissal to probably have poisoned the well of objective assessment coming from me. And to that end, I'd like to see if you folks have any suggestions on either what paths my friend can follow to verify this or some helpful suggestions to me for not coming at this with smug sarcasm and ruining a good opportunity to help spread the tools for dampening paranoid woo that's constantly flung around the internet. And before it comes up: yeah, I'm aware that this has mainly been paraded about the Prison Planet / InfoWars website circle. I don't want to focus on that unless there's evidence that AJ and friends are the originators of the document. For now it seems this publicintelligence.net website (which I know nothing about) is allegedly the source point. Since AJ sees conspiracies in his own shadow he's too easy anyway, and folks will just retreat to this other site as the source. Besides, it seems like the CT subforum has been dominated too much by the Holocaust denial woo. Let this mix it up some.
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6th May 2012, 01:20 PM	#2
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6th May 2012, 02:44 PM	#3
uke2se Philosopher Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,229	It's funny reading the comments on the linked site. A couple are reacting reasonably, for example: Quote: It’s a really good document, I spent the morning digesting the main manual. This is a subject that has far broader relevance than just civil liberties concerns or partisan beef with Obama — even the moderate 50 year forecasts call for strange weather and spectacular catastrophes, so it won’t just be US MIL dealing with “Internment and Resettlement.” The considerations and detail brought to bear in FM 3-39.40 make it worth reading, as opposed to just reacting to. Also check out the work of Vinay Gupta, who is a great resource on the real-world logistics of coping with large scale catastrophe. Then we have the nutters: Quote: This is NOT about catastrophe, at least in the natural disaster sense. This is about rounding up dissident Americans and liquidating them when the planned collapse of the Dollar happens! Or I suppose you thought all the foreign troops visiting the USA were just here to play soldier while learning from the best? This is about the genocide of America. Emphasis added. So, we have a military document about detaining and protecting certain kinds of personnel (namely civilians) in a combat area and the nutters immediately jump on it as something bad. This is pretty standard stuff, and I would be very afraid if the military DIDN'T have plans regarding these kinds of operations. Think of the pandemonium that would ensue if nobody knew what to do.
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6th May 2012, 05:07 PM	#4
Horatius NWO Kitty Wrangler Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada Posts: 22,031	Originally Posted by uke2se So, we have a military document about detaining and protecting certain kinds of personnel (namely civilians) in a combat area and the nutters immediately jump on it as something bad. This is pretty standard stuff, and I would be very afraid if the military DIDN'T have plans regarding these kinds of operations. Think of the pandemonium that would ensue if nobody knew what to do. I love this bit the most: Quote: Or I suppose you thought all the foreign troops visiting the USA were just here to play soldier while learning from the best? Yes, let's just laugh at those who actually believe the truth...
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6th May 2012, 09:08 PM	#5
GreNME Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Folsom Prison Posts: 8,283	Thanks guys. Let me know if you get a copy downloaded.
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7th May 2012, 12:16 PM	#6
Redtail Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 9,398	Yeah this was brought up on my football forum. I downloaded a copy & from a first skim, it seems they have a legit FM with authentic military speak & everything. The OMG factor seems to stem from the DoD using psyop units in POW/detainee camps to prevent riots, identify enemy leaders, accept America as the good guys, etc... There's also a section on refugee camps including possible ones in America due to natural or man made disasters. Put these two together & BOOM!!! "Re-education camps!" An easy conclusion to reach, especially if one ignores the part in the refugee section that points out that the policies & procedures are modified due to the circumstances & location. For example, military forces would do little more than help set up camps, transport people & supplies, help with security, etc... In short, they took two sections out of context & scared themselves.
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7th May 2012, 03:11 PM	#7
thedopefishlives Muse Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 783	Originally Posted by Redtail In short, they took two sections out of context & scared themselves. So in other words, SOP for conspiracy-minded individuals.
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7th May 2012, 05:07 PM	#8
ngc6205 Critical Thinker Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Here. I used to be there, but I moved. Posts: 303	The introduction section explains the purpose of the document and it is definitely NOT what the nutters ~~think~~ believe.
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7th May 2012, 09:29 PM	#9
triforcharity Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: The South! Posts: 12,628	Yeah, just read the introduction.
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7th May 2012, 10:32 PM	#10
Orphia Nay Penguilicious Spodmaster. Tagger Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ponylandistan Presidential Palace (above the Spods' stables). Posts: 28,821	You can download a pdf of FM 3-39.40 from the US Military here: http://armypubs.army.mil/doctrine/active_fm.html
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8th May 2012, 03:52 AM	#11
BazBear Teddy Bears do have teeth! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: In The Woods Behind Your House Posts: 1,649	Originally Posted by Orphia Nay You can download a pdf of FM 3-39.40 from the US Military here: http://armypubs.army.mil/doctrine/active_fm.html I've tried that site already, and just tried again, and I keep getting "SSL peer cannot verify your certificate." error messages. I believe the copy the OP linked to is probably legit anyway.
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8th May 2012, 04:10 AM	#12
Horatius NWO Kitty Wrangler Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada Posts: 22,031	Originally Posted by ngc6205 The introduction section explains the purpose of the document and it is definitely NOT what the nutters ~~think~~ believe. Originally Posted by triforcharity Yeah, just read the introduction. The problem with suggesting that is, the nutter will just assume they were lying about what their purpose was. It doesn't matter in the slightest if there's a legitimate military purpose in having such plans; they'll still be interpreted as being covert plans for what They really want to do, which is whatever is bothering the nutter in question at the time.
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8th May 2012, 10:49 AM	#13
swright777 Muse Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Pennsylvania, USA Posts: 603	I am in the US Army. I can't get to the site posted in the OP because it has been blocked (by the army) due to hostile content. I downloaded FM 3-39.40 from the army.mil network. It does exist and isn't being kept a secret. I can't compare it to the one linked above, but mine is 326 pages. It is titled "INTERNMENT AND RESETTLEMENT OPERATIONS" and is dated February 2010. There are other suspicious publications here such as: FM 10-602 "HEADQUARTERS AND HEADQUARTERS UNITS, PETROLEUM AND WATER DISTRIBUTION ORGANIZATION" FM 21-10 "FIELD HYGIENE AND SANITATION" FM 21-18 "FOOT MARCHES" FM 38-701 "PACKAGING OF MATERIAL: PACKING" FM 10-16 "GENERAL FABRIC REPAIR" FM 10-23-2 "TACTICS, TECHNIQUES, AND PROCEDURES FOR GARRISON FOOD PREPARATION AND CLASS I OPERATIONS MANAGEMENT" FM 10-27 "GENERAL SUPPLY IN THEATERS OF OPERATIONS" FM 10-27-4 "ORGANIZATIONAL SUPPLY FOR UNIT LEADERS" FM 10-52 "WATER SUPPLY IN THEATERS OF OPERATIONS" OMG THE ARMY DOES GENERAL FABRIC REPAIR AND USES WATER IN THEATERS OF OPERATION!!!1!!1 ETA: Sorry if it looks like I'm yelling the titles at you. I just did a copy paste from the army pubs site.
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8th May 2012, 11:15 AM	#14
Horatius NWO Kitty Wrangler Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada Posts: 22,031	Ahem. [CTModeOn] Originally Posted by swright777 There are other suspicious publications here such as: FM 10-602 "HEADQUARTERS AND HEADQUARTERS UNITS, PETROLEUM AND WATER DISTRIBUTION ORGANIZATION" "Spray the oil over the Interned Citizen, and do not distribute the water, as that might put the flames out." Quote: FM 21-10 "FIELD HYGIENE AND SANITATION" "...is unnecessary, indeed, counter-productive, in Death Camps." Quote: FM 21-18 "FOOT MARCHES" "...are a less-expensive alternative to trains for getting people to Death Camps. Attrition along the route is also a beneficial side effect (for details, see, Bataan, Hiking History of)" Quote: FM 38-701 "PACKAGING OF MATERIAL: PACKING" "Two words: Body Bags." Quote: FM 10-16 "GENERAL FABRIC REPAIR" "Quite often the wretched masses will tear at Death Camp guards in desperate attempts to escape. No one like seeing a guard in a tattered uniform!" Quote: FM 10-23-2 "TACTICS, TECHNIQUES, AND PROCEDURES FOR GARRISON FOOD PREPARATION AND CLASS I OPERATIONS MANAGEMENT" "...are also unnecessary. For further reference, see FM 21-10 "FIELD HYGIENE AND SANITATION"" Quote: FM 10-27 "GENERAL SUPPLY IN THEATERS OF OPERATIONS" "It's important to keep the Generals supplied. That's the whole point of our taking over the world, after all!" Quote: FM 10-27-4 "ORGANIZATIONAL SUPPLY FOR UNIT LEADERS" "See FM 10-27, in order to ensure proper levels of supplies for Unit Leaders, as compared to General Officers. There's no way we're letting those punks get all the good liquor and hot chicks!" Quote: FM 10-52 "WATER SUPPLY IN THEATERS OF OPERATIONS" "Ha Ha, okay, you got us there; Theaters will be fully supplied with the finest in food and drink. You didn't really think we'd be watching a movie and only drink water did you?" [/CTMode]
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8th May 2012, 11:20 AM	#15
Spindrift Enturbulator Extraordinaire Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Right here! Posts: 8,661	They're planning the collapse of the dollar and they can't keep this document secret? I don't think that bodes well for our future overlords.
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8th May 2012, 11:57 AM	#16
BazBear Teddy Bears do have teeth! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: In The Woods Behind Your House Posts: 1,649	Originally Posted by swright777 I am in the US Army. I can't get to the site posted in the OP because it has been blocked (by the army) due to hostile content. I downloaded FM 3-39.40 from the army.mil network. It does exist and isn't being kept a secret. I can't compare it to the one linked above, but mine is 326 pages. It is titled "INTERNMENT AND RESETTLEMENT OPERATIONS" and is dated February 2010. There are other suspicious publications here such as: FM 10-602 "HEADQUARTERS AND HEADQUARTERS UNITS, PETROLEUM AND WATER DISTRIBUTION ORGANIZATION" FM 21-10 "FIELD HYGIENE AND SANITATION" FM 21-18 "FOOT MARCHES" FM 38-701 "PACKAGING OF MATERIAL: PACKING" FM 10-16 "GENERAL FABRIC REPAIR" FM 10-23-2 "TACTICS, TECHNIQUES, AND PROCEDURES FOR GARRISON FOOD PREPARATION AND CLASS I OPERATIONS MANAGEMENT" FM 10-27 "GENERAL SUPPLY IN THEATERS OF OPERATIONS" FM 10-27-4 "ORGANIZATIONAL SUPPLY FOR UNIT LEADERS" FM 10-52 "WATER SUPPLY IN THEATERS OF OPERATIONS" OMG THE ARMY DOES GENERAL FABRIC REPAIR AND USES WATER IN THEATERS OF OPERATION!!!1!!1 ETA: Sorry if it looks like I'm yelling the titles at you. I just did a copy paste from the army pubs site. Yep, the one in the OP is 326 pages. I've read through quite a bit of it now, it's just a typical milspeak Army FM (I was in the Army a long time ago), nothing odd or scary at all...at least to us sane types, anyway
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8th May 2012, 12:26 PM	#17
Mycroft High Priest of Ed Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 16,149	Quoting from the document: Quote: 1-3. Internment and resettlement operations are conducted my military police to shelter, sustain, buard, protect, and account for populations (detainees, U.S. military prisoners, or dislocated civilians) as a result of military or civil conflict, natural or man-made disaster, or to facilitate criminal prosecution. Internment involves the detainment of a population or group that pose some level of threat to military operations. Resettlement infolves the quartering of a population or group for their protection. These operations inherently control the movement and activities of their specific population for inperative reasons of security, safety or intelligence gathering. I/R operations require detailed advanced planning to provide a save and secure environment. U.S. policies mandate that in addition to U.S. military prisoners, all indificuals captured, interned, evacuated, or held by U.S. armed...blah, blah, blah... It seems pretty standard fare. If you fight a war, you will end up with some prisoners of war and you have to put them somewhere. You also might need to house refugees from war or disasters. This document just identifies many of the hypothetical situations where this might occur and gives policies on how it's to be done if the need arises. It would be astonishing if the army didn't have some document like this.
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8th May 2012, 06:34 PM	#18
GreNME Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Folsom Prison Posts: 8,283	Fantastic results, folks. That document is way too thick for me to have waded through myself and I think just the fact that it's not actually hidden (meaning the "leaked" claim is exaggeration) now makes it look ridiculous. Much appreciated for the help.
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8th May 2012, 06:42 PM	#19
Orphia Nay Penguilicious Spodmaster. Tagger Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ponylandistan Presidential Palace (above the Spods' stables). Posts: 28,821	Originally Posted by GreNME Fantastic results, folks. That document is way too thick for me to have waded through myself and I think just the fact that it's not actually hidden (meaning the "leaked" claim is exaggeration) now makes it look ridiculous. Much appreciated for the help. I sat on my arse and downloaded a free pdf from a site in plain view. I'm a whistleblower!!!11!!![/conspiritard]
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9th May 2012, 12:07 PM	#20
timhau NWO Litter Technician Join Date: May 2004 Location: East of Sweeden Posts: 9,755	Where do I sign up for a re-education camp? I'd like to get an economics degree. Cognitive science is also fine, if your money camp is full.
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9th May 2012, 06:15 PM	#21
Horatius NWO Kitty Wrangler Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada Posts: 22,031	Originally Posted by timhau Where do I sign up for a re-education camp? I'd like to get an economics degree. Cognitive science is also fine, if your money camp is full. Sorry, the only courses we currently have available are Introduction to Bullet Catching, and Advanced Cyanide Inhalation. But they both feature hands-on practical exercises!
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9th May 2012, 08:07 PM	#22
LSSBB Devilish Dictionarian Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: An elusive house at Bachelor's Grove Cemetery Posts: 4,746	Originally Posted by Horatius Sorry, the only courses we currently have available are Introduction to Bullet Catching, and Advanced Cyanide Inhalation. But they both feature hands-on practical exercises! No Underwear Bombing this year?
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10th May 2012, 04:44 AM	#23
Horatius NWO Kitty Wrangler Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada Posts: 22,031	Originally Posted by LSSBB No Underwear Bombing this year? No, that's apparently been taken over by the CIA this year.
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10th May 2012, 05:21 AM	#24
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10th May 2012, 01:34 PM	#25
swright777 Muse Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Pennsylvania, USA Posts: 603	Originally Posted by Horatius Ahem. [CTModeOn] ... ... [/CTMode] Lololol!