63 Stone Girl rescued - Page 2

Duffy Moon · 26th May 2012, 01:21 AM

Originally Posted by I Ratant

Really?
It's a given in aircraft that incompatible connectors are used where the connections can be vital.

Originally Posted by Modified

Yes, Ford does that as well. Every brake nut in the same general area is a different size, so the factory workers can't cross-route the lines.

When I first started working for Jaguar it was owned by Ford and one of the things they were big on was called Poka-yoke, which was a fail safe system.
Simply put, if you had two pegs which had to go into two holes, you could eliminate wrong fittings by making one round and one square.

Originally Posted by I Ratant

We calls 'em "Frog Yards"..

I go to Ireland quite often.
I used to convert kilometres to miles but more recently I've come to prefer 'Irish miles', as I like to call them.

Originally Posted by Xulld

LOL, nice! Your father sounds like a fun guy on the job.

He was resistant to change, shall we say.

He disliked digital watches because they were 'too accurate'!
He preferred to look at his watch and see that it was 'just coming up to five to three', rather than see 2:53.

How can a watch be too accurate?!

Primus · 26th May 2012, 04:07 AM

Originally Posted by P.J. Denyer

I work in an enterprise level support dept, we have a company copy.... I think it's just to remind us that if we don't work hard we could find ourselves amoung people who read and believe it.

It scares me that this paper basically decides the outcome of British elections.

Still, Frankie Boyle's funny.

The Sun decides elections no more than I do. If the majority of its readers supported the wooly, yoghurt knitting lefty party then the Sun would come out and support them.

I do find that the Sun readers are stupid meme is just a handy way for people to express their disdain for the working class without actually having to say it.

Rat · 26th May 2012, 04:15 AM

Originally Posted by Primus

The Sun decides elections no more than I do. If the majority of its readers supported the wooly, yoghurt knitting lefty party then the Sun would come out and support them.

I do find that the Sun readers are stupid meme is just a handy way for people to express their disdain for the working class without actually having to say it.

I'm someone who believes that Sun readers are either stupid or lazy, and it seems to me that you've just expressed your disdain for the working classes by effectively stating that they're all Sun readers.

Primus · 26th May 2012, 04:45 AM

Originally Posted by Rat

I'm someone who believes that Sun readers are either stupid or lazy, and it seems to me that you've just expressed your disdain for the working classes by effectively stating that they're all Sun readers.

So the Suns readership isnt predominantly working class then? I spend a lot of time on building sites with my job and almost all of the builders, plumbers, electricians and joiners read the Sun. Very few of them are stupid.

I'm sure if you go into a local council or school canteen you will find lots of people who self identify as working class and read the Guardian. The thing is the only time these people interact with actual working class people is when their boiler packs it in.

I personally don't read it. I prefer the Times but I do find it funny that people who imagine themselves to be progressive thinking write off well over 5 million people as retarded because they read the wrong paper.

ETA: That 5 million figure is just people who buy it, I'd imagine you could comfortably double it for people who read it.

zooterkin · 26th May 2012, 04:56 AM

Originally Posted by Duffy Moon

The UK has been slowly going metric for years, just no government wanted to be seen as the one that made the final push.

Distances and speed limits are the only things that remain completely imperial.

Not quite; long distances (e.g. to the next town) are in miles, but short distances (e.g. to a hazard such as a bridge, or a narrowing in the road) are in metres.

commandlinegamer · 26th May 2012, 05:08 AM

I think there's nothing wrong in presenting news and current affairs in a concise, easy-to-understand format.

Unfortunately, so much of tabloid journalism is centered around (especially today) celebrity 'culture' and other vapidity.

Then there's the cheap manipulation of readers' emotions: fear, anger and hate, aided and abetted by misinformation or lack of context. See the blogs tabloidwatch, enemiesofreason and angrymob, for numerous examples.

Primus · 26th May 2012, 05:17 AM

Originally Posted by commandlinegamer

I think there's nothing wrong in presenting news and current affairs in a concise, easy-to-understand format.

Unfortunately, so much of tabloid journalism is centered around (especially today) celebrity 'culture' and other vapidity.

Then there's the cheap manipulation of readers' emotions: fear, anger and hate, aided and abetted by misinformation or lack of context. See the blogs tabloidwatch, enemiesofreason and angrymob, for numerous examples.

Absolutely but then nearly all papers do it.

Mail - Everything is the fault of immigrants and gays
Guardian - Everything is the fault of Thatcher and to a lesser extent, other Tories
Sport, Star - I don't even know, boobs?

I wasn't defending the Sun's integrity, just pointing out that stating Sun readers are stupid and only vote for the wrong parties because the paper tells them to is lazy, stupid and untrue.

leftysergeant · 26th May 2012, 05:18 AM

Originally Posted by zooterkin

Not quite; long distances (e.g. to the next town) are in miles, but short distances (e.g. to a hazard such as a bridge, or a narrowing in the road) are in metres.

Maybe there is some tie-in here with the way English is written. Nobody ever bothered to work out a proper orthography, either.

tomwaits · 26th May 2012, 05:20 AM

Pics?

Rat · 26th May 2012, 06:14 AM

Originally Posted by Primus

So the Suns readership isnt predominantly working class then? I spend a lot of time on building sites with my job and almost all of the builders, plumbers, electricians and joiners read the Sun. Very few of them are stupid.

I'm sure if you go into a local council or school canteen you will find lots of people who self identify as working class and read the Guardian. The thing is the only time these people interact with actual working class people is when their boiler packs it in.

I personally don't read it. I prefer the Times but I do find it funny that people who imagine themselves to be progressive thinking write off well over 5 million people as retarded because they read the wrong paper.

ETA: That 5 million figure is just people who buy it, I'd imagine you could comfortably double it for people who read it.

I normally see circulation figures for the Sun of between 2 and 3 million. I thought it was indeed estimated readership that was about 5. Anyway, fine. You seem to have a different definition of working class from mine, and these days it's quite a nebulous concept anyway.

I Ratant · 26th May 2012, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by Duffy Moon

When I first started working for Jaguar it was owned by Ford and one of the things they were big on was called Poka-yoke, which was a fail safe system.
Simply put, if you had two pegs which had to go into two holes, you could eliminate wrong fittings by making one round and one square.

I go to Ireland quite often.
I used to convert kilometres to miles but more recently I've come to prefer 'Irish miles', as I like to call them.

He was resistant to change, shall we say.

He disliked digital watches because they were 'too accurate'!
He preferred to look at his watch and see that it was 'just coming up to five to three', rather than see 2:53.

How can a watch be too accurate?!

.
Lemme see you demonstrate "clockwise" with a digital watch!!!!!

Primus · 26th May 2012, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by Rat

I normally see circulation figures for the Sun of between 2 and 3 million. I thought it was indeed estimated readership that was about 5. Anyway, fine. You seem to have a different definition of working class from mine, and these days it's quite a nebulous concept anyway.

You are correct regarding the circulation figures. I must have got the estimated readership and circulation mixed up.

I note you didn't attempt to refute my point about Sun readers not being stupid.

I would seriously hope you would be able to come into some of the places I work without instantly passing judgment that everyone there is a thicko.

Rat · 27th May 2012, 03:16 AM

Originally Posted by Primus

You are correct regarding the circulation figures. I must have got the estimated readership and circulation mixed up.

I note you didn't attempt to refute my point about Sun readers not being stupid.

I would seriously hope you would be able to come into some of the places I work without instantly passing judgment that everyone there is a thicko.

I can see I'm going to need to be quite literal. If I say, for example, "I hate people who get mixed up between there and their", I do not literally mean that I despise those people, but that the act of mixing up those words annoys me. It's perhaps an unfortunate turn of phrase, but it's a common one. Similarly, when I say that Sun readers are stupid or lazy, I mean that I generally consider the act of regularly reading the Sun to be stupid or lazy. This is not because I dislike the working classes, but because I dislike the Sun.

Dcdrac · 27th May 2012, 04:33 AM

I dislike the Sun becasue tis default position is treat your readers as stupid, Inotice the Mirrior is more like it use to be in the 1970s with some indepth writing sneaking in.

CORed · 27th May 2012, 05:36 AM

Originally Posted by BenBurch

The one REAL objection came from mechanics. They had to buy twice as many wrenches and sockets. And they still do. Had we ever switched totally, the need for English sized-wrenches would have nearly vanished.

This has been a problem in the US too. Metric wrenches have always been needed for imports. Most of American-made cars made in the last 15-20 years have a mixture of metric and SAE size (increments of 1/16 or 1/32 inch) fasteners.

23_Tauri · 27th May 2012, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by Beerina

Where did "stone" come from -- what was being weighed and some guy grabbed a rock he could comfortably handle and decided to use that?

It doesn't even measure up to the weak logic of things like seconds (heartbeat), yard (length of your arm, tho' that be a tiny yard) and foot, well, I don't know where foot comes from.

But this is the land that gave us oil in haggis-heads!

And don't forget that horses are measured in hands.

The Don · 28th May 2012, 01:05 AM

Originally Posted by zooterkin

Not quite; long distances (e.g. to the next town) are in miles, but short distances (e.g. to a hazard such as a bridge, or a narrowing in the road) are in metres.

Here in Wales, the short distances are still in yards (or since I was in West Wales over the weekend llath).

Dave Rogers · 28th May 2012, 01:44 AM

Originally Posted by TragicMonkey

"So, you don't know for sure that she isn't a vampire who preys only upon dinosaurs, and flies through the night in an opera cloak, shooting down owls with her laser eyes, and once had a torrid threesome with Justin Timberlake and Hillary Clinton in a kiddie pool filled with lime Jello?"

The story was in the Sun, not the Sunday Sport.

Dave

angrysoba · 28th May 2012, 02:48 AM

Usually the Sun would tell us what colour the damsel in distress' nightie is.

DrDave · 28th May 2012, 04:09 AM

Originally Posted by angrysoba

Usually the Sun would tell us what colour the damsel in distress' nightie is.

If I remember correctly she couldn't get clothes to fit so used a bed sheet to cover her modesty.

Didn't say what colour though

Worm · 28th May 2012, 06:00 AM

I've never quite understood the hot/cold celsius/farenheit thing. I think exclusively in celsius and have to mentally convert farenheit temperatures before I have a vague idea what general temperature is being indicated.

In general, the UK is still thoroughly imperial, but there are still a few things I struggle with. For small weights, I have to think in grams and kilograms - ounces and pounds mean little or nothing to me. But for larger weights, I think in stone. 20 stone is far more meaningful to me than 127 kg

(this is starting to change now that I am doing WeightWatchers which use kg)

and thus we have achieved relevancy....

Beerina · 28th May 2012, 08:00 AM

Originally Posted by BenBurch

The one REAL objection came from mechanics. They had to buy twice as many wrenches and sockets. And they still do. Had we ever switched totally, the need for English sized-wrenches would have nearly vanished.

Ya, but nowadays, there's nobody in the US who doesn't have a double set. It's been at least 2 decades since the average homebody has had a double set, to say nothing of professional mechanics.

Nah, at this point it's just a point of pride, not necessity, in the auto industry.

Aepervius · 28th May 2012, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by Travis

Shoot, I thought I was going to read about a heroic action hero shooting his way through a rabid Muslim mob to pick up the bloodied body of a girl hit by sixty three stones then wisking her away to a hospital.

I keep forgetting about that "stone" thing meaning a persons weight.

I was deeply impressed by the medic saving 63 different drugged teenies, until I read the article.

For pity's sake, when will people stop using archaic unit which make no sense.

baron · 28th May 2012, 02:12 PM

Why 63 stone? Why not 94 stone, or 117 stone, or 3.1 tons? If you're going to utterly fabricate something then at least put a little effort into it.

26th May 2012, 04:15 AM	#43
Rat Not bored. Never bored. Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Leicester, UK Posts: 7,085	Originally Posted by Primus The Sun decides elections no more than I do. If the majority of its readers supported the wooly, yoghurt knitting lefty party then the Sun would come out and support them. I do find that the Sun readers are stupid meme is just a handy way for people to express their disdain for the working class without actually having to say it. I'm someone who believes that Sun readers are either stupid or lazy, and it seems to me that you've just expressed your disdain for the working classes by effectively stating that they're all Sun readers.
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26th May 2012, 04:45 AM	#44
Primus Critical Thinker Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: London, UK Posts: 489	Originally Posted by Rat I'm someone who believes that Sun readers are either stupid or lazy, and it seems to me that you've just expressed your disdain for the working classes by effectively stating that they're all Sun readers. So the Suns readership isnt predominantly working class then? I spend a lot of time on building sites with my job and almost all of the builders, plumbers, electricians and joiners read the Sun. Very few of them are stupid. I'm sure if you go into a local council or school canteen you will find lots of people who self identify as working class and read the Guardian. The thing is the only time these people interact with actual working class people is when their boiler packs it in. I personally don't read it. I prefer the Times but I do find it funny that people who imagine themselves to be progressive thinking write off well over 5 million people as retarded because they read the wrong paper. ETA: That 5 million figure is just people who buy it, I'd imagine you could comfortably double it for people who read it.
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26th May 2012, 04:56 AM	#45
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26th May 2012, 05:08 AM	#46
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26th May 2012, 05:17 AM	#47
Primus Critical Thinker Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: London, UK Posts: 489	Originally Posted by commandlinegamer I think there's nothing wrong in presenting news and current affairs in a concise, easy-to-understand format. Unfortunately, so much of tabloid journalism is centered around (especially today) celebrity 'culture' and other vapidity. Then there's the cheap manipulation of readers' emotions: fear, anger and hate, aided and abetted by misinformation or lack of context. See the blogs tabloidwatch, enemiesofreason and angrymob, for numerous examples. Absolutely but then nearly all papers do it. Mail - Everything is the fault of immigrants and gays Guardian - Everything is the fault of Thatcher and to a lesser extent, other Tories Sport, Star - I don't even know, boobs? I wasn't defending the Sun's integrity, just pointing out that stating Sun readers are stupid and only vote for the wrong parties because the paper tells them to is lazy, stupid and untrue.
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26th May 2012, 01:21 AM	#41
Duffy Moon Graduate Poster Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Coventry, UK Posts: 1,598	Originally Posted by I Ratant Really? It's a given in aircraft that incompatible connectors are used where the connections can be vital. Originally Posted by Modified Yes, Ford does that as well. Every brake nut in the same general area is a different size, so the factory workers can't cross-route the lines. When I first started working for Jaguar it was owned by Ford and one of the things they were big on was called Poka-yoke, which was a fail safe system. Simply put, if you had two pegs which had to go into two holes, you could eliminate wrong fittings by making one round and one square. Originally Posted by I Ratant We calls 'em "Frog Yards".. I go to Ireland quite often. I used to convert kilometres to miles but more recently I've come to prefer 'Irish miles', as I like to call them. Originally Posted by Xulld LOL, nice! Your father sounds like a fun guy on the job. He was resistant to change, shall we say. He disliked digital watches because they were 'too accurate'! He preferred to look at his watch and see that it was 'just coming up to five to three', rather than see 2:53. How can a watch be too accurate?!

26th May 2012, 04:07 AM	#42
Primus Critical Thinker Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: London, UK Posts: 489	Originally Posted by P.J. Denyer I work in an enterprise level support dept, we have a company copy.... I think it's just to remind us that if we don't work hard we could find ourselves amoung people who read and believe it. It scares me that this paper basically decides the outcome of British elections. Still, Frankie Boyle's funny. The Sun decides elections no more than I do. If the majority of its readers supported the wooly, yoghurt knitting lefty party then the Sun would come out and support them. I do find that the Sun readers are stupid meme is just a handy way for people to express their disdain for the working class without actually having to say it.

26th May 2012, 05:18 AM	#48
leftysergeant Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Spanaway WA Posts: 18,613	Originally Posted by zooterkin Not quite; long distances (e.g. to the next town) are in miles, but short distances (e.g. to a hazard such as a bridge, or a narrowing in the road) are in metres. Maybe there is some tie-in here with the way English is written. Nobody ever bothered to work out a proper orthography, either.
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26th May 2012, 05:20 AM	#49
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26th May 2012, 06:14 AM	#50
Rat Not bored. Never bored. Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Leicester, UK Posts: 7,085	Originally Posted by Primus So the Suns readership isnt predominantly working class then? I spend a lot of time on building sites with my job and almost all of the builders, plumbers, electricians and joiners read the Sun. Very few of them are stupid. I'm sure if you go into a local council or school canteen you will find lots of people who self identify as working class and read the Guardian. The thing is the only time these people interact with actual working class people is when their boiler packs it in. I personally don't read it. I prefer the Times but I do find it funny that people who imagine themselves to be progressive thinking write off well over 5 million people as retarded because they read the wrong paper. ETA: That 5 million figure is just people who buy it, I'd imagine you could comfortably double it for people who read it. I normally see circulation figures for the Sun of between 2 and 3 million. I thought it was indeed estimated readership that was about 5. Anyway, fine. You seem to have a different definition of working class from mine, and these days it's quite a nebulous concept anyway.
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26th May 2012, 09:48 AM	#51
I Ratant Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 15,305	Originally Posted by Duffy Moon When I first started working for Jaguar it was owned by Ford and one of the things they were big on was called Poka-yoke, which was a fail safe system. Simply put, if you had two pegs which had to go into two holes, you could eliminate wrong fittings by making one round and one square. I go to Ireland quite often. I used to convert kilometres to miles but more recently I've come to prefer 'Irish miles', as I like to call them. He was resistant to change, shall we say. He disliked digital watches because they were 'too accurate'! He preferred to look at his watch and see that it was 'just coming up to five to three', rather than see 2:53. How can a watch be too accurate?! . Lemme see you demonstrate "clockwise" with a digital watch!!!!!

26th May 2012, 09:53 AM	#52
Primus Critical Thinker Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: London, UK Posts: 489	Originally Posted by Rat I normally see circulation figures for the Sun of between 2 and 3 million. I thought it was indeed estimated readership that was about 5. Anyway, fine. You seem to have a different definition of working class from mine, and these days it's quite a nebulous concept anyway. You are correct regarding the circulation figures. I must have got the estimated readership and circulation mixed up. I note you didn't attempt to refute my point about Sun readers not being stupid. I would seriously hope you would be able to come into some of the places I work without instantly passing judgment that everyone there is a thicko.

27th May 2012, 03:16 AM	#53
Rat Not bored. Never bored. Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Leicester, UK Posts: 7,085	Originally Posted by Primus You are correct regarding the circulation figures. I must have got the estimated readership and circulation mixed up. I note you didn't attempt to refute my point about Sun readers not being stupid. I would seriously hope you would be able to come into some of the places I work without instantly passing judgment that everyone there is a thicko. I can see I'm going to need to be quite literal. If I say, for example, "I hate people who get mixed up between there and their", I do not literally mean that I despise those people, but that the act of mixing up those words annoys me. It's perhaps an unfortunate turn of phrase, but it's a common one. Similarly, when I say that Sun readers are stupid or lazy, I mean that I generally consider the act of regularly reading the Sun to be stupid or lazy. This is not because I dislike the working classes, but because I dislike the Sun.
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27th May 2012, 04:33 AM	#54
Dcdrac Illuminator Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,674	I dislike the Sun becasue tis default position is treat your readers as stupid, Inotice the Mirrior is more like it use to be in the 1970s with some indepth writing sneaking in.
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27th May 2012, 05:36 AM	#55
CORed Illuminator Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 4,291	Originally Posted by BenBurch The one REAL objection came from mechanics. They had to buy twice as many wrenches and sockets. And they still do. Had we ever switched totally, the need for English sized-wrenches would have nearly vanished. This has been a problem in the US too. Metric wrenches have always been needed for imports. Most of American-made cars made in the last 15-20 years have a mixture of metric and SAE size (increments of 1/16 or 1/32 inch) fasteners.
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27th May 2012, 05:04 PM	#56
23_Tauri Illuminator Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: UK Posts: 4,947	Originally Posted by Beerina Where did "stone" come from -- what was being weighed and some guy grabbed a rock he could comfortably handle and decided to use that? It doesn't even measure up to the weak logic of things like seconds (heartbeat), yard (length of your arm, tho' that be a tiny yard) and foot, well, I don't know where foot comes from. But this is the land that gave us oil in haggis-heads! And don't forget that horses are measured in hands.
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28th May 2012, 01:05 AM	#57
The Don Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cymru Posts: 8,261	Originally Posted by zooterkin Not quite; long distances (e.g. to the next town) are in miles, but short distances (e.g. to a hazard such as a bridge, or a narrowing in the road) are in metres. Here in Wales, the short distances are still in yards (or since I was in West Wales over the weekend llath).

28th May 2012, 01:44 AM	#58
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28th May 2012, 02:48 AM	#59
angrysoba Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Osaka, Japan Posts: 8,575	Usually the Sun would tell us what colour the damsel in distress' nightie is.

28th May 2012, 04:09 AM	#60
DrDave Guest Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Geneva Posts: 3,110	Originally Posted by angrysoba Usually the Sun would tell us what colour the damsel in distress' nightie is. If I remember correctly she couldn't get clothes to fit so used a bed sheet to cover her modesty. Didn't say what colour though

28th May 2012, 06:00 AM	#61
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28th May 2012, 08:00 AM	#62
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28th May 2012, 09:46 AM	#63
Aepervius Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bierland. I mean , germany. Posts: 7,761	Originally Posted by Travis Shoot, I thought I was going to read about a heroic action hero shooting his way through a rabid Muslim mob to pick up the bloodied body of a girl hit by sixty three stones then wisking her away to a hospital. I keep forgetting about that "stone" thing meaning a persons weight. I was deeply impressed by the medic saving 63 different drugged teenies, until I read the article. For pity's sake, when will people stop using archaic unit which make no sense.
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28th May 2012, 02:12 PM	#64
baron Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Hill Posts: 1,910	Why 63 stone? Why not 94 stone, or 117 stone, or 3.1 tons? If you're going to utterly fabricate something then at least put a little effort into it.
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