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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Perth, Western Australia
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Can someone send it to me? pm for email or something.....
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no, i don't think i need to read naturalistic literature more accurately, to be convinced its true. - Gibhor |
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Fiend God
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: In the details...
Posts: 28,974
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I want to see it !!
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The Onmyouza Theatre, An unofficial international fanclub forum dedicated to the Japanese heavy metal band Onmyo-Za. "In the interests of time and space, it is not unreasonable to cite one point at a time. Citing 30 is the equivalent of citing none. Obviously." - Robert Prey |
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Gavagai!
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Turkey
Posts: 10,837
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Me too!
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'The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool.' - Richard Feynman |
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Illuminator
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 4,252
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Gamemaster: "A horde of rotting zombies is shambling toward you. The sign over the door says 'Accounting'" |
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Butterbeans and Breadcrumbs
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Emily's shop
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Chief Solipsistic
Autosycophant Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Dongguan, China
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There are a number of reasons, but I think that the most fundamental underlying reason is that it is evil atheist scientists who are making the claims.
Once you have that, the rest is easy. Get some ignorant fool to make claims such as, "God controls our world, to claim that we can destroy it is to claim that we are more powerful than God", or "God gave us dominion over the Earth, now these atheists are trying to take our god-given rights away from us!", or any other such nonsense. Once that person makes such a claim, of course scientists respond by disagreeing. And the moment that they disagree, then it becomes an "atheist vs. religion" thing...and of course, Christians cannot possibly side with the atheists, against their fellow believers. Doesn't matter whether their arguments are rational, or have any merit whatsoever; what matters is that it is Christian leaders vs. atheist authorities, and they simply will never back the atheists. And the more scientists seek to prove they're correct, the more it is seen simply as an attack on their religious leaders. |
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The Meta-Solipsistic Autosycophant mantra: "I post, therefore I am nominated" |
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Banned
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Newbury, Berkshire
Posts: 10,242
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ha, the second most powerful force on earth isn't Satan, what an idiot
its Cillit Bang/Easy-Off BAM
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Gavagai!
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Turkey
Posts: 10,837
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Lol at the Arab holding a Turkish flag.
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'The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool.' - Richard Feynman |
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Fiend God
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: In the details...
Posts: 28,974
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The Onmyouza Theatre, An unofficial international fanclub forum dedicated to the Japanese heavy metal band Onmyo-Za. "In the interests of time and space, it is not unreasonable to cite one point at a time. Citing 30 is the equivalent of citing none. Obviously." - Robert Prey |
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Scholar
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 64
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The lovely, Jesus-fearing man you elected to congress tells you global warming is a hoax. The scientist tells you it's real. The same scientist also rejects creationism, so you know he's a liar. The choice is easy.
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Philosopher
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: The great American southeast
Posts: 7,237
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More brilliance from Jack CHick
http://www.chick.com/images/5_1_whyshouldi.jpg A naive boy gets saved.
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If at first you don't succeed try try again. Then if you fail to succeed to Hell with that. Try something else. |
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Illuminator
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: London
Posts: 3,016
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http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/1079/1079_01.asp
ooh the tribulation is coming very soon. Is that where we all get swamped with fast breeding lumps of fur. |
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EDL = English Disco Lovers |
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Illuminator
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Banbury
Posts: 3,567
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I know there's plenty to laugh at in Jack Chick, but the one aspect that always astounds me about this kind of viewpoint is the image they seem to have of non believers. So often, his non believers have the worldview they do not because they have thought it out and come to a conclusion, but rather because they've simply never heard of christianity.
This is a classic. Seriously, the kid in this comic has never heard of souls. "Soul? What's a soul? Am I supposed to have one?" Nor does he have any concept of what hell is. He asks if Jesus is "some religious guy, like Buddha, Allah, or the Pope?" And of course the response to this revelation is always "Oh, wow, you mean I just have to pray to Jesus and I'll be saved?! That's amazing!" The idea that you could know this story, in detail, and just not buy it seems to be something their mindset just can't grasp. |
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Promise of diamonds in eyes of coal She carries beauty in her soul |
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Sarcastic Conqueror of Notions
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: A floating island above the clouds
Posts: 23,835
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Aw, ****** My soul looks just like me?!?!?
I was hopin' to wake up looking like this ![]() or this ![]() oh wait, like this!
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"Great innovations should not be forced [by way of] slender majorities." - Thomas Jefferson The government should nationalize it! Socialized, single-payer video game development and sales now! More, cheaper, better games, right? Right? |
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JREF Kid
Tagger
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Wiltshire
Posts: 6,402
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Yes, I've thought that for years. As a youngster, I used to wonder whether the average American, who of course doesn't do religious studies in school, is genuinely that ignorant about Christianity and its tenets. Nowadays, I just think it's Chick's biases coming through. He's so obsessed with his religion that he simply can't grasp the fact that people might have heard of it, studied it and even experienced it without turning into a full-on fundie.
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"Faith without doubt leads to moral arrogance, the eternal pratfall of the religiously convinced" - Joe Klein, Time magazine "The fact that some geniuses were laughed at does not imply that all who are laughed at are geniuses. They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown." - Carl Sagan |
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Eats shoots and leaves.
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 6,866
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It's not just J.C. that believes this. I once had a Jehovah's Witness start relating a practiced Jesus narrative to me. I stopped her mid-sentence by saying, "I am familiar with the legend." She was shocked that I referred to it as a legend and astonished that I knew of it and still didn't believe it. Her cognitive dissonance was delicious.
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"Truth does not contradict truth." - St. Augustine "Faith often contradicts faith. Therefore faith is not an indication of truth." - RenaissanceBiker |
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 107
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My favorite is: "you came from monkeys". Why certainly. I was a rhesus myself, the Mrs.
was a chimp and the kids were kind of a mix. Uncle Frank was a baboon. Now that we don't spend all of our time shaving to fit in we can do better things. |
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Illuminator
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Banbury
Posts: 3,567
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There's a wonderful interview Chris Hitchens did once with Todd Friel where Friel was trying a "gotcha" schtick whereby he played a "hypotheticals" game... he asked a series of questions along the lines of "What if god truly exists, don't you think he would have rights on your life?" and "What if there is a judgment day and god asks you to give an account of yourself... how do you think you would do?"
Over and over Hitchens gave the kinds of answers you might imagine... and Friel just could not comprehend it. Over and over he got answers other than the ones he obviously wanted, and over and over he just kept saying "But it's a hypothetical... assuming god does exist..." Todd Friel just could not grasp that Hitchens could accept his hypothetical and yet still come to different conclusions. It's a level of cognitive dissonance that is really quite stunning to see. And it's on youtube |
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Promise of diamonds in eyes of coal She carries beauty in her soul |
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Dental Floss Tycoon
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge
Posts: 14,459
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Chick Tracts come in handy video format now.
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It looks just like a Telefunken U47... You'll love it. |
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Philosopher
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 8,237
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To a conspiracy theorist, having double standards just means that they have twice as many standards. carlitos |
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Critical Thinker
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 357
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Skepticifimisticalationist
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Third in line
Posts: 14,977
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"¿WHAT KIND OF BIRD? ¿A PARANORMAL BIRD?" --- Carlos S., 2002 |
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Critical Thinker
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Why not?
Posts: 361
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Spectacular:
F: Even though he keeps you alive, he causes you to breathe, he provides you food and everything that is good he doesn't have any rights to tell you what to do? Nothing? H: Does that mean that people who are sick and poor and hungry are excused this obligation of thanking someone brokenly for owning them? F: That's not part of the gameshow. |
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Graduate Poster
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Nottingham
Posts: 1,591
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"There is no refutation of Darwinian evolution in existence. If a refutation ever were to come about, it would come from a scientist, and not an idiot." - Richard Dawkins |
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Muse
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: In me head
Posts: 527
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I've been called a "Big Thinker", but curiously, only by people with a lisp. |
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Philosopher
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: The great American southeast
Posts: 7,237
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Jack Chicks most recent comic
http://media.chick.com/tractimages67...81/1081_01.gif Read and laugh.
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If at first you don't succeed try try again. Then if you fail to succeed to Hell with that. Try something else. |
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Monkey
Posts: 30,285
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1. It's pretty funny when Jack Chick (or ghost writer) characterizes a racist remark of someone else's as "very rude".
2. I am powerfully tempted to include a note "Note the crescent moon" on every picture ever, provided there are no crescent moons pictured. |
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One cannot expect wisdom to flow from a pumpkin. |
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Thinker
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Sweden
Posts: 173
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I think you meant to link to http://chick.com/reading/tracts/1081/1081_01.asp
Terrible stuff as always. |
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Thinker
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 230
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No Fang, don't care.
![]() Edit: Speaking of crescent moons, how the heck is that star in the middle of the moon visible during the camel story? |
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Critical Thinker
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 269
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It's nice that Jesus works like a protection racket. Gives me a real cozy feeling inside. |
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NWO Litter Technician
Join Date: May 2004
Location: East of Sweeden
Posts: 9,755
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"Muhammad hated the Bible because it tells us Jesus Christ (not Allah) created the universe."
Really? I thought it was his dad. |
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When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realised that the Lord, in his wisdom, doesn't work that way. I just stole one and asked Him to forgive me. - Emo Philips
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a carbon based life-form
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 27,243
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Biomechanoid
Director of IDIOCY (Region 13)
Moderator
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: New Texas
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-Aberhaten did it - "Which gives us an answer to our question. What’s the worst thing that can happen in a pressure cooker?" Randall Munroe -Director of Independent Determining Inquisitor Of Crazy Yapping - Aberhaten's Apothegm™ - An Internet law that states that optimism is indistinguishable from sarcasm |
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Sarcastic Conqueror of Notions
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: A floating island above the clouds
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"Great innovations should not be forced [by way of] slender majorities." - Thomas Jefferson The government should nationalize it! Socialized, single-payer video game development and sales now! More, cheaper, better games, right? Right? |
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Masterblazer
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Montreal, Quebec
Posts: 6,414
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That man never ceases to amaze me.
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Almo! My Blog "No society ever collapsed because the poor had too much." — LeftySergeant "It may be that there is no body really at rest, to which the places and motions of others may be referred." –Issac Newton in the Principia |
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Critical Thinker
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 467
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It makes perfect sense if one subscribes to the divine command theory of morality. If one accepts what is "right" is specifically what god says is right, then god could say that one must to do any atrocity of any kind, and that person is morally obligated to do it.
God can commit all the atrocities he wants because if his will is the entire source of right and wrong, atrocities can be a good thing. |
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Graduate Poster
Join Date: Nov 2004
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It's nice to be nice to the nice. |
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Thinker
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 230
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Oh, no, not at all. From the gospel of John:
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Now, this is a concept that's pretty much limited to John; John is waaaaaay different from the other ("synoptic") gospels. But it's by no means a Catholic-only thing; in fact, the fundies sometimes criticize Catholics for moving Jesus too far from God. For examples, see other Chick tracts.
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Critical Thinker
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 435
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This one is out of print. I wonder why...
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