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WildCat · 10th June 2012, 07:43 AM

Originally Posted by BobK

Maybe the swimming org. should try to sanction her.

That look of determination on her face, was Camilla downrange?

MG1962 · 10th June 2012, 07:49 AM

Originally Posted by WildCat

That look of determination on her face, was Camilla downrange?

No you can tell it isn't - otherwise there would be a queue forming behind her for a turn lol

MG1962 · 10th June 2012, 09:16 AM

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha

- See Quad we told you these guys are nuts

http://www.news.com.au/national/sull...-1226390473956

Beerina · 10th June 2012, 09:58 PM

Originally Posted by TragicMonkey

Isn't shooting an Olympic sport?

Not only that, it's an Olympic sport for it's military aspect, much like the Second Amendment isn't about hunting, either.

Ironic government officials want to take down the gun photos, too, and are willing to use real men with guns to make sure it happens.

TragicMonkey · 10th June 2012, 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by Beerina

Not only that, it's an Olympic sport for it's military aspect, much like the Second Amendment isn't about hunting, either.

The Second Amendment is totally about hunting! ....Redcoats through the woods. But still, that's hunting. And if the British ever come back with their weird pronunciation and Tardises and Mrs Slocombe's pussy, we'll be ready. Yes, I'm free, Mrs Slocombe. Free to fill you with lead if you don't back away from my property. Nice and slow! No sudden moves. And I'm unanimous in that.

Wildy · 11th June 2012, 01:56 AM

This issue is stupid and this whole thing is either Swimming Australia overreacting or a cynical ploy to get the public on the side of these two people who've had shadier pasts.

Damien Evans · 11th June 2012, 03:54 AM

Originally Posted by Beerina

Not only that, it's an Olympic sport for it's military aspect, much like the Second Amendment isn't about hunting, either.

Ironic government officials want to take down the gun photos, too, and are willing to use real men with guns to make sure it happens.

Well, no. The second amendment is about the federal government taking over state debts. I can't imagine it would have anything to do with hunting.

Quad4_72 · 11th June 2012, 04:51 AM

Originally Posted by MG1962

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha

- See Quad we told you these guys are nuts

http://www.news.com.au/national/sull...-1226390473956

That is absolutely insane. Those guys are completely out of their minds. At least the Australian insanity seems to be isolated to the swimming organization and the Herald Sun. Lol.

Wildy · 11th June 2012, 05:57 AM

Originally Posted by Damien Evans

Well, no. The second amendment is about the federal government taking over state debts. I can't imagine it would have anything to do with hunting.

I think they're talking about the US amendment, which I think has something to do with keeping bear arms.

Quad4_72 · 11th June 2012, 06:38 AM

Originally Posted by Wildy

I think they're talking about the US amendment, which I think has something to do with keeping bear arms.

Robert2 · 12th June 2012, 09:41 PM

The guns PIC LOL.
Ann over reaction for sure but study up on NED KELLY and you will see people are victomized then others see them as bad news whewn it is a beat up.
I live in SOUTH AUSTRALIA LOL.

MG1962 · 12th June 2012, 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by Quad4_72

That is absolutely insane. Those guys are completely out of their minds. At least the Australian insanity seems to be isolated to the swimming organization and the Herald Sun. Lol.

And Parliament...........Australian politicians are well on par with their American counterparts

Legend · 12th June 2012, 09:50 PM

Good lord, no, MG1962.

OnlyTellsTruths · 12th June 2012, 09:58 PM

Originally Posted by mikedenk

My favorite line from the article:

Originally Posted by Herald Sun

D'Arcy was pictured holding semi-automatic pistols, similar to those used by Virginia Tech gunman Cho Seung-Hui.

No agenda here

Today I prepared dinner using a couple of knives. Similar to those used by infamous murderer Jack the Ripper.

UnrepentantSinner · 13th June 2012, 12:24 AM

Originally Posted by Foolmewunz

Curious. Did these sensitive souls at the swimming organization tell Thorpe that he couldn't be the Thorpedo? Isn't that even worse than a mere gun - it's a WMD. Or were they too busy not worrying about him doping to not worry about the oh-so-important image of Swim Australia?

No. Torpedos are anti-vessel weapons and don't deliver any NBC payloads (there was a nuclear torpedo back in the 60s, but it was for anti-submarine warfare, not a WMD either.

Dragoonster · 13th June 2012, 12:41 AM

This entire thing is utterly ridiculous.

I read the original article after seeing the seemingly innocuous pic and kept waiting for what was actually wrong with it, looking forward to reading a real controversy and being outraged by it and hating these horrible human beings. But the punchline wasn't...

..."posing with guns in the exact fashion of Nazis"
..."while flashing gang signs"
..."prior to using those guns to murder people"

There was no punchline. The entire issue (outside of equally utterly ridiculous internal Australian affairs) is that these two held guns, in their hands, and were photographed doing so. WHAT THE ****.

Quad4_72 · 13th June 2012, 07:56 AM

Originally Posted by MG1962

And Parliament...........Australian politicians are well on par with their American counterparts

Glad that you know our pain

Quad4_72 · 13th June 2012, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by Dragoonster

This entire thing is utterly ridiculous.

I read the original article after seeing the seemingly innocuous pic and kept waiting for what was actually wrong with it, looking forward to reading a real controversy and being outraged by it and hating these horrible human beings. But the punchline wasn't...

..."posing with guns in the exact fashion of Nazis"
..."while flashing gang signs"
..."prior to using those guns to murder people"

There was no punchline. The entire issue (outside of equally utterly ridiculous internal Australian affairs) is that these two held guns, in their hands, and were photographed doing so. WHAT THE ****.

I did the same thing. I then proceeded to condemn the entire population of Australia for the stupidity of such an article. Luckily some of the posters on here corrected me and said that all of the whackos have been stashed away in the Herals Sun and Swimming organization. Oh and apparently parliament too...

Damien Evans · 13th June 2012, 08:03 AM

Originally Posted by Robert2

The guns PIC LOL.
Ann over reaction for sure but study up on NED KELLY and you will see people are victomized then others see them as bad news whewn it is a beat up.
I live in SOUTH AUSTRALIA LOL.

Too much red cordial mate?

Wildy · 13th June 2012, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by Damien Evans

Too much red cordial mate?

Maybe all the blood has passed into the screen?

Beerina · 13th June 2012, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by TragicMonkey

The Second Amendment is totally about hunting! ....Redcoats through the woods. But still, that's hunting. And if the British ever come back with their weird pronunciation and Tardises and Mrs Slocombe's pussy, we'll be ready. Yes, I'm free, Mrs Slocombe. Free to fill you with lead if you don't back away from my property. Nice and slow! No sudden moves. And I'm unanimous in that.

I'd rather try to get Miss Brahms to pull my cracker at a party.

Xulld · 15th June 2012, 08:07 AM

http://www.news.com.au/news/australi...-1226387891149

I dont get it, can some of our Aussie forum goers explain this to me? In the article they mention that these are the same weapons used in specific violent attacks that have occurred in the past.

Is it really rational to link these men with those attacks solely becuase they thought it would be cool to have a picture holding the weapons?

Also I was curious what exactly is the problem having these pictures up on a social media site while representing Australia in the Olympics when the Olympics themselves have shooting competitions?

Rolfe · 15th June 2012, 08:13 AM

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=237608

Rolfe.

Xulld · 15th June 2012, 08:16 AM

Originally Posted by Rolfe

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=237608

Rolfe.

Ahh, thank you. Mods please delete this one then.

Thanks,

Xulld · 15th June 2012, 08:21 AM

http://www.swimming.org.au/news/inde...m&NewsID=25810

Quote:

“While what the boys did was not illegal, posting the photos on social networks encourages public debate, and that debate can be seen to have a negative impact on the image of the sport and their own image.”

Politics. They no like debate! Cant have the public talking about the governments policies regarding firearms.

Robert2 · 18th June 2012, 05:19 PM

The guns issue was punishment but there was no crime.

Originally Posted by Damien Evans

Too much red cordial mate?

10th June 2012, 09:58 PM	#44
Beerina Sarcastic Conqueror of Notions Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: A floating island above the clouds Posts: 23,835	Originally Posted by TragicMonkey Isn't shooting an Olympic sport? Not only that, it's an Olympic sport for it's military aspect, much like the Second Amendment isn't about hunting, either. Ironic government officials want to take down the gun photos, too, and are willing to use real men with guns to make sure it happens.
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10th June 2012, 10:01 PM	#45
TragicMonkey Poisoned Waffles Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monkey Posts: 30,291	Originally Posted by Beerina Not only that, it's an Olympic sport for it's military aspect, much like the Second Amendment isn't about hunting, either. The Second Amendment is totally about hunting! ....Redcoats through the woods. But still, that's hunting. And if the British ever come back with their weird pronunciation and Tardises and Mrs Slocombe's pussy, we'll be ready. Yes, I'm free, Mrs Slocombe. Free to fill you with lead if you don't back away from my property. Nice and slow! No sudden moves. And I'm unanimous in that.
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11th June 2012, 01:56 AM	#46
Wildy Adelaidean Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Australia, not that you'll read the "location" field. Posts: 9,955	This issue is stupid and this whole thing is either Swimming Australia overreacting or a cynical ploy to get the public on the side of these two people who've had shadier pasts.
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11th June 2012, 03:54 AM	#47
Damien Evans Up The Irons Tagger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 25,506	Originally Posted by Beerina Not only that, it's an Olympic sport for it's military aspect, much like the Second Amendment isn't about hunting, either. Ironic government officials want to take down the gun photos, too, and are willing to use real men with guns to make sure it happens. Well, no. The second amendment is about the federal government taking over state debts. I can't imagine it would have anything to do with hunting.
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11th June 2012, 04:51 AM	#48
Quad4_72 AI-EE-YAH! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: USA Posts: 5,830	Originally Posted by MG1962 Hahahahahahahahahahahaha - See Quad we told you these guys are nuts http://www.news.com.au/national/sull...-1226390473956 That is absolutely insane. Those guys are completely out of their minds. At least the Australian insanity seems to be isolated to the swimming organization and the Herald Sun. Lol.
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10th June 2012, 07:43 AM	#41
WildCat NWO Master Conspirator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Albany Park, Chicago Posts: 49,471	Originally Posted by BobK Maybe the swimming org. should try to sanction her. That look of determination on her face, was Camilla downrange?

10th June 2012, 07:49 AM	#42
MG1962 Guest Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kansas (Australia) Posts: 14,750	Originally Posted by WildCat That look of determination on her face, was Camilla downrange? No you can tell it isn't - otherwise there would be a queue forming behind her for a turn lol

10th June 2012, 09:16 AM	#43
MG1962 Guest Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kansas (Australia) Posts: 14,750	Hahahahahahahahahahahaha - See Quad we told you these guys are nuts http://www.news.com.au/national/sull...-1226390473956

11th June 2012, 05:57 AM	#49
Wildy Adelaidean Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Australia, not that you'll read the "location" field. Posts: 9,955	Originally Posted by Damien Evans Well, no. The second amendment is about the federal government taking over state debts. I can't imagine it would have anything to do with hunting. I think they're talking about the US amendment, which I think has something to do with keeping bear arms.
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11th June 2012, 06:38 AM	#50
Quad4_72 AI-EE-YAH! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: USA Posts: 5,830	Originally Posted by Wildy I think they're talking about the US amendment, which I think has something to do with keeping bear arms.
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12th June 2012, 09:41 PM	#51
Robert2 Student Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 26	The guns PIC LOL. Ann over reaction for sure but study up on NED KELLY and you will see people are victomized then others see them as bad news whewn it is a beat up. I live in SOUTH AUSTRALIA LOL.
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12th June 2012, 09:49 PM	#52
MG1962 Guest Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kansas (Australia) Posts: 14,750	Originally Posted by Quad4_72 That is absolutely insane. Those guys are completely out of their minds. At least the Australian insanity seems to be isolated to the swimming organization and the Herald Sun. Lol. And Parliament...........Australian politicians are well on par with their American counterparts

12th June 2012, 09:50 PM	#53
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12th June 2012, 09:58 PM	#54
OnlyTellsTruths Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 5,921	Originally Posted by mikedenk My favorite line from the article: Originally Posted by Herald Sun D'Arcy was pictured holding semi-automatic pistols, similar to those used by Virginia Tech gunman Cho Seung-Hui. No agenda here Today I prepared dinner using a couple of knives. Similar to those used by infamous murderer Jack the Ripper.
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13th June 2012, 12:24 AM	#55
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13th June 2012, 12:41 AM	#56
Dragoonster Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,583	This entire thing is utterly ridiculous. I read the original article after seeing the seemingly innocuous pic and kept waiting for what was actually wrong with it, looking forward to reading a real controversy and being outraged by it and hating these horrible human beings. But the punchline wasn't... ..."posing with guns in the exact fashion of Nazis" ..."while flashing gang signs" ..."prior to using those guns to murder people" There was no punchline. The entire issue (outside of equally utterly ridiculous internal Australian affairs) is that these two held guns, in their hands, and were photographed doing so. WHAT THE ****.

13th June 2012, 07:56 AM	#57
Quad4_72 AI-EE-YAH! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: USA Posts: 5,830	Originally Posted by MG1962 And Parliament...........Australian politicians are well on par with their American counterparts Glad that you know our pain
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13th June 2012, 07:58 AM	#58
Quad4_72 AI-EE-YAH! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: USA Posts: 5,830	Originally Posted by Dragoonster This entire thing is utterly ridiculous. I read the original article after seeing the seemingly innocuous pic and kept waiting for what was actually wrong with it, looking forward to reading a real controversy and being outraged by it and hating these horrible human beings. But the punchline wasn't... ..."posing with guns in the exact fashion of Nazis" ..."while flashing gang signs" ..."prior to using those guns to murder people" There was no punchline. The entire issue (outside of equally utterly ridiculous internal Australian affairs) is that these two held guns, in their hands, and were photographed doing so. WHAT THE ****. I did the same thing. I then proceeded to condemn the entire population of Australia for the stupidity of such an article. Luckily some of the posters on here corrected me and said that all of the whackos have been stashed away in the Herals Sun and Swimming organization. Oh and apparently parliament too...
	__________________ Looks like the one on top has a magazine, thus needs less reloading. Also, the muzzle shroud makes it less likely for a spree killer to burn his hands. The pistol grip makes it more comfortable for the spree killer to shoot. thaiboxerken

13th June 2012, 08:03 AM	#59
Damien Evans Up The Irons Tagger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 25,506	Originally Posted by Robert2 The guns PIC LOL. Ann over reaction for sure but study up on NED KELLY and you will see people are victomized then others see them as bad news whewn it is a beat up. I live in SOUTH AUSTRALIA LOL. Too much red cordial mate?
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13th June 2012, 09:38 AM	#60
Wildy Adelaidean Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Australia, not that you'll read the "location" field. Posts: 9,955	Originally Posted by Damien Evans Too much red cordial mate? Maybe all the blood has passed into the screen?
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13th June 2012, 12:04 PM	#61
Beerina Sarcastic Conqueror of Notions Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: A floating island above the clouds Posts: 23,835	Originally Posted by TragicMonkey The Second Amendment is totally about hunting! ....Redcoats through the woods. But still, that's hunting. And if the British ever come back with their weird pronunciation and Tardises and Mrs Slocombe's pussy, we'll be ready. Yes, I'm free, Mrs Slocombe. Free to fill you with lead if you don't back away from my property. Nice and slow! No sudden moves. And I'm unanimous in that. I'd rather try to get Miss Brahms to pull my cracker at a party.
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15th June 2012, 08:07 AM	#62
Xulld Graduate Poster Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Posts: 1,233	Australian Olympic swimmers spark outrage http://www.news.com.au/news/australi...-1226387891149 I dont get it, can some of our Aussie forum goers explain this to me? In the article they mention that these are the same weapons used in specific violent attacks that have occurred in the past. Is it really rational to link these men with those attacks solely becuase they thought it would be cool to have a picture holding the weapons? Also I was curious what exactly is the problem having these pictures up on a social media site while representing Australia in the Olympics when the Olympics themselves have shooting competitions?
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15th June 2012, 08:13 AM	#63
Rolfe Anti-homeopathy illuminati member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NT 150 511 Posts: 34,409	http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=237608 Rolfe.
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15th June 2012, 08:16 AM	#64
Xulld Graduate Poster Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Posts: 1,233	Originally Posted by Rolfe http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=237608 Rolfe. Ahh, thank you. Mods please delete this one then. Thanks,
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15th June 2012, 08:21 AM	#65
Xulld Graduate Poster Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Posts: 1,233	http://www.swimming.org.au/news/inde...m&NewsID=25810 Quote: “While what the boys did was not illegal, posting the photos on social networks encourages public debate, and that debate can be seen to have a negative impact on the image of the sport and their own image.” Politics. They no like debate! Cant have the public talking about the governments policies regarding firearms.
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18th June 2012, 05:19 PM	#66
Robert2 Student Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 26	reply The guns issue was punishment but there was no crime. Originally Posted by Damien Evans Too much red cordial mate?
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