Megachurch Preacher Arrested For Assaulting Daughter

The Central Scrutinizer · 8th June 2012, 10:43 AM

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/0...ery/?hpt=hp_t2

Oops!

I predict he will tearfully ask for forgiveness on his next TV show, and the idiots will keep sending checks.

Monketey Ghost · 8th June 2012, 10:46 AM

Read about this guy before.

Megadouche.

BenBurch · 8th June 2012, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by Monketey Ghost

Read about this guy before.

Megadouche.

They are all scum, but some are a lot worse than others.

sadhatter · 8th June 2012, 11:05 AM

Used to prank call the **** out of this guy's 1800 number back in the day. WAtching him and popoff, and proceeding to make folks rethink their choice of segment in the callcenter was pretty much an after the bar tradition for like 4 years.

Puppycow · 9th June 2012, 02:42 AM

Originally Posted by Monketey Ghost

Read about this guy before.

Megadouche.

He's one of those "prosperity gospel" preachers. They are particularly annoying.

Quote:

Dollar is a senior pastor of World Changers Church International in suburban Atlanta, which claims about 30,000 members and has an $18 million sanctuary that resembles a golden-domed spaceship atop a hill.

He built an international religious empire, with broadcasts of his sermons beamed worldwide and speaking engagements in Europe.

A barrel-chested man who favors impeccably tailored pinstripe suits in the pulpit, Dollar preaches the Prosperity Gospel, a message that says God will bless faithful Christians with wealth and debt-free living.

See! It works! Look how rich the preacher himself is!

Orphia Nay · 9th June 2012, 09:04 PM

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headline...d-for-battery/

Quote:

“Do you know why God wants you to prosper? He has a plan for your prosperity and it involves more than just having a big house and nice cars. God’s design for prosperity is so you can be a blessing to others,” it says on Dollar’s website.

Oh, yeah, he's a real blessing to others.

Cain · 10th June 2012, 06:04 AM

Kids are out of control.

Barber Shop · 10th June 2012, 07:27 AM

He is a prosperity gospel preacher who has tons on money and his name is actually Dollar!?!?

That is just too perfect...

(Is there a Catholic priest with the last name Tooshy?)

Montag451 · 10th June 2012, 08:09 AM

No catholic piest called Peter File?

steve s · 10th June 2012, 08:13 AM

Originally Posted by Barber Shop

He is a prosperity gospel preacher who has tons on money and his name is actually Dollar!?!?

That is just too perfect...

His nickname is Cash Flow (instead of Creflo.)

Steve S

Fishstick · 11th June 2012, 07:32 AM

Was hoping it was ted haggard. Alas.

Monketey Ghost · 11th June 2012, 07:35 AM

You know, the Gospel of prosperity is crap, but I can't hate on the guy for it. He tells his people to give him money and he deserves to be wealthy, and they like seeing him so prosperous they line his pockets.

He tells people to give him money, and they do.

ponderingturtle · 11th June 2012, 07:39 AM

Originally Posted by Monketey Ghost

You know, the Gospel of prosperity is crap, but I can't hate on the guy for it. He tells his people to give him money and he deserves to be wealthy, and they like seeing him so prosperous they line his pockets.

He tells people to give him money, and they do.

He also tells people that giving him their money will make them wealthy. But I guess anyone who is deceived by a preacher deserves it. Like those people who stop their medication as an act of faith to go to a healer.

funk de fino · 11th June 2012, 01:24 PM

A couple pf months ago a collegaue of mine from Texas was saying that the USA did not need a healthcare system like most other countries because the church would look after the sick and needy. This makes me think they are the sick and needy.

Alareth · 12th June 2012, 12:36 PM

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...81b8f2d32f97e7

Quote:

Dollar said in a 2007 interview with The Associated Press that he renounced his salary from the church, and his income only comes from personal investments, including a real estate residential property business and horse breeding company called Dollar Ranch. He's published more than 30 books, focusing mostly on family and life issues, including debt management.
"I stopped taking a salary," he said. "But no one ask the question, 'Where are you getting your money from?' Well, I have boxes of invitations to speak. At first, I was glad to preach for anyone. What I didn't know was I received a love offering for preaching. Back then, it was for $25 bucks. But over the years, people began to appreciate what I was bringing to them."
He said in the interview that he sometimes got up to $100,000 for a single appearance on his packed schedule of speaking engagements.
"That tells you where my money comes from," he said.

Polaris · 12th June 2012, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by ponderingturtle

He also tells people that giving him their money will make them wealthy. But I guess anyone who is deceived by a preacher deserves it. Like those people who stop their medication as an act of faith to go to a healer.

Seems a logical extension of stores telling everybody for decades that the best way to save was to spend money at stores.

Alareth · 14th June 2012, 08:58 AM

The Devil was behind it all in an attempt to discredit him and prevent him from spreading the gospel.

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/conten...-abuse-scandal

Polaris · 14th June 2012, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by Alareth

The Devil was behind it all in an attempt to discredit him and prevent him from spreading the gospel.

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/conten...-abuse-scandal

This is an illustration of how I feel, knowing that he is aware there are people out there stupid enough to believe it and still send him money.

Barber Shop · 14th June 2012, 05:39 PM

I find the applause from his congregation, upon hearing him say that "I should not have been arrested", to be both perplexing and disturbing.

They seem to take it as a self-evident matter-of-fact that he should not have been arrested. How do they know this? Why *applaud* at his assertion?

And wouldn't the "Christian" thing to do be admitting your guilt and asking forgiveness? Instead, this guy just says its some diabolical (literally) attempt to hinder his mission!

Mehdimentio · 14th June 2012, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by Alareth

The Devil was behind it all in an attempt to discredit him and prevent him from spreading the gospel.

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/conten...-abuse-scandal

Oh, of course!

Polaris · 15th June 2012, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by Barber Shop

I find the applause from his congregation, upon hearing him say that "I should not have been arrested", to be both perplexing and disturbing.

They seem to take it as a self-evident matter-of-fact that he should not have been arrested. How do they know this? Why *applaud* at his assertion?

And wouldn't the "Christian" thing to do be admitting your guilt and asking forgiveness? Instead, this guy just says its some diabolical (literally) attempt to hinder his mission!

It didn't hurt Mohammed's street cred.

8th June 2012, 10:43 AM	#1
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8th June 2012, 10:46 AM	#2
Monketey Ghost Body of Work Join Date: May 2003 Location: I'm on your screen! Posts: 14,807	Read about this guy before. Megadouche.
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BenBurch Gatekeeper of The Left Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: The Universe 35.2 ms ahead of this one. Posts: 32,153	Originally Posted by Monketey Ghost Read about this guy before. Megadouche. They are all scum, but some are a lot worse than others.
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sadhatter Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 5,743	Used to prank call the **** out of this guy's 1800 number back in the day. WAtching him and popoff, and proceeding to make folks rethink their choice of segment in the callcenter was pretty much an after the bar tradition for like 4 years.
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9th June 2012, 02:42 AM	#5
Puppycow Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Japan Posts: 15,757	Originally Posted by Monketey Ghost Read about this guy before. Megadouche. He's one of those "prosperity gospel" preachers. They are particularly annoying. Quote: Dollar is a senior pastor of World Changers Church International in suburban Atlanta, which claims about 30,000 members and has an $18 million sanctuary that resembles a golden-domed spaceship atop a hill. He built an international religious empire, with broadcasts of his sermons beamed worldwide and speaking engagements in Europe. A barrel-chested man who favors impeccably tailored pinstripe suits in the pulpit, Dollar preaches the Prosperity Gospel, a message that says God will bless faithful Christians with wealth and debt-free living. See! It works! Look how rich the preacher himself is!
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10th June 2012, 08:13 AM	#10
steve s Illuminator Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3,661	Originally Posted by Barber Shop He is a prosperity gospel preacher who has tons on money and his name is actually Dollar!?!? That is just too perfect... His nickname is Cash Flow (instead of Creflo.) Steve S
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11th June 2012, 07:32 AM	#11
Fishstick Graduate Poster Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,303	Was hoping it was ted haggard. Alas.

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Monketey Ghost Body of Work Join Date: May 2003 Location: I'm on your screen! Posts: 14,807	You know, the Gospel of prosperity is crap, but I can't hate on the guy for it. He tells his people to give him money and he deserves to be wealthy, and they like seeing him so prosperous they line his pockets. He tells people to give him money, and they do.
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ponderingturtle Orthogonal Vector Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Tarrytown, NY Posts: 26,425	Originally Posted by Monketey Ghost You know, the Gospel of prosperity is crap, but I can't hate on the guy for it. He tells his people to give him money and he deserves to be wealthy, and they like seeing him so prosperous they line his pockets. He tells people to give him money, and they do. He also tells people that giving him their money will make them wealthy. But I guess anyone who is deceived by a preacher deserves it. Like those people who stop their medication as an act of faith to go to a healer.
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Alareth Expert Expertologist Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 6,677	http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...81b8f2d32f97e7 Quote: Dollar said in a 2007 interview with The Associated Press that he renounced his salary from the church, and his income only comes from personal investments, including a real estate residential property business and horse breeding company called Dollar Ranch. He's published more than 30 books, focusing mostly on family and life issues, including debt management. "I stopped taking a salary," he said. "But no one ask the question, 'Where are you getting your money from?' Well, I have boxes of invitations to speak. At first, I was glad to preach for anyone. What I didn't know was I received a love offering for preaching. Back then, it was for $25 bucks. But over the years, people began to appreciate what I was bringing to them." He said in the interview that he sometimes got up to $100,000 for a single appearance on his packed schedule of speaking engagements. "That tells you where my money comes from," he said.
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Polaris Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 5,169	Originally Posted by ponderingturtle He also tells people that giving him their money will make them wealthy. But I guess anyone who is deceived by a preacher deserves it. Like those people who stop their medication as an act of faith to go to a healer. Seems a logical extension of stores telling everybody for decades that the best way to save was to spend money at stores.
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Polaris Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 5,169	Originally Posted by Alareth The Devil was behind it all in an attempt to discredit him and prevent him from spreading the gospel. http://www.rightwingwatch.org/conten...-abuse-scandal This is an illustration of how I feel, knowing that he is aware there are people out there stupid enough to believe it and still send him money.
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14th June 2012, 05:39 PM	#19
Barber Shop Critical Thinker Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Virginia Posts: 277	I find the applause from his congregation, upon hearing him say that "I should not have been arrested", to be both perplexing and disturbing. They seem to take it as a self-evident matter-of-fact that he should not have been arrested. How do they know this? Why applaud at his assertion? And wouldn't the "Christian" thing to do be admitting your guilt and asking forgiveness? Instead, this guy just says its some diabolical (literally) attempt to hinder his mission!
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Mehdimentio Thinker Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Sweden Posts: 161	Originally Posted by Alareth The Devil was behind it all in an attempt to discredit him and prevent him from spreading the gospel. http://www.rightwingwatch.org/conten...-abuse-scandal Oh, of course!
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15th June 2012, 08:45 AM	#21
Polaris Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 5,169	Originally Posted by Barber Shop I find the applause from his congregation, upon hearing him say that "I should not have been arrested", to be both perplexing and disturbing. They seem to take it as a self-evident matter-of-fact that he should not have been arrested. How do they know this? Why applaud at his assertion? And wouldn't the "Christian" thing to do be admitting your guilt and asking forgiveness? Instead, this guy just says its some diabolical (literally) attempt to hinder his mission! It didn't hurt Mohammed's street cred.
Polaris Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 5,169	__________________ "There's vastly more truth to be found in rocks than in holy books. Rocks are far superior, in fact, because you can DEMONSTRATE the truth found in rocks. Plus, they're pretty. Holy books are just heavy." - Dinwar "Roy Moore of Alabama. The world would absolutely benefit by him being run over by any vehicle." - Lowpro