The Bible is the more superior book

terryjautry · 22nd June 2012, 07:54 PM

I have done some extensive research on how people like to say that our bible is a copy of ancient religious texts and stories from those time periods. Some of the resemblences are quite remarkable and astounding I must say.

There are differences, but yet at the same time we must not forget a few things.

By the way I think I know another reason why there is little proof of Israelites in Egypt. Look at the egyptian creation accounts of how their god at the time was so different from out God. No contest. Sorry. Our god does not need to think like that. Once a new pharaoh is put a throne, he is vindicated to be put on throne by some sort of new god or something and that would nullify everything for the previous pharaoh. The one mentioned in the bible had his handed to him after his defeat and that would mean a new one took over, and what he did before him was probably so shameful and a great defeat.

Anyway, getting back to what I was saying. The other accounts in genesis that resemble othe things like the story of Joseph vs say the egyptian tale of two brothers. No contest as the tale of the two brothers begins to lose its luster a little later down the line, and it has been suggested that the story and account of Joseph influenced the tale of two brothers.

And then there are the 10 commandments that some say are a copy from the Egyptian book of the dead.

I can see why they may think that but, the 10 commandments appear to be more absolute and make more sense and are just 10 basic things set in order, not tons of them from the book of the dead. Moses would have been out of his mind trying to remember every single thing from that book and I doubt he even read the book of the dead.

There are so many creation stories that it's a shame, but none come to as accurate and absolute as the Bible's. The bible always goes into great detail about things in its books. the gods of other religions have some weird things going on and have serious issues and get crazier and crazier, but that is not the case with our God. There just is no contest. Keep the faith in the last days my friends.

MG1962 · 22nd June 2012, 07:58 PM

There are 35 or so responses waiting your attention here

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=238367

Drive by posting, no matter the topic is really frowned upon here

Gord_in_Toronto · 22nd June 2012, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by terryjautry

I have done some extensive research on how people like to say that our bible is a copy of ancient religious texts and stories from those time periods. Some of the resemblences are quite remarkable and astounding I must say.

There are differences, but yet at the same time we must not forget a few things.

By the way I think I know another reason why there is little proof of Israelites in Egypt. Look at the egyptian creation accounts of how their god at the time was so different from out God. No contest. Sorry. Our god does not need to think like that. Once a new pharaoh is put a throne, he is vindicated to be put on throne by some sort of new god or something and that would nullify everything for the previous pharaoh. The one mentioned in the bible had his handed to him after his defeat and that would mean a new one took over, and what he did before him was probably so shameful and a great defeat.

Anyway, getting back to what I was saying. The other accounts in genesis that resemble othe things like the story of Joseph vs say the egyptian tale of two brothers. No contest as the tale of the two brothers begins to lose its luster a little later down the line, and it has been suggested that the story and account of Joseph influenced the tale of two brothers.

And then there are the 10 commandments that some say are a copy from the Egyptian book of the dead.

I can see why they may think that but, the 10 commandments appear to be more absolute and make more sense and are just 10 basic things set in order, not tons of them from the book of the dead. Moses would have been out of his mind trying to remember every single thing from that book and I doubt he even read the book of the dead.

There are so many creation stories that it's a shame, but none come to as accurate and absolute as the Bible's. The bible always goes into great detail about things in its books. the gods of other religions have some weird things going on and have serious issues and get crazier and crazier, but that is not the case with our God. There just is no contest. Keep the faith in the last days my friends.

Don't be silly.

Resume · 22nd June 2012, 08:07 PM

Originally Posted by terryjautry

I have done some extensive research on how people like to say that our bible is a copy of ancient religious texts and stories from those time periods. Some of the resemblences are quite remarkable and astounding I must say.

There are differences, but yet at the same time we must not forget a few things.

By the way I think I know another reason why there is little proof of Israelites in Egypt. Look at the egyptian creation accounts of how their god at the time was so different from out God. No contest. Sorry. Our god does not need to think like that. Once a new pharaoh is put a throne, he is vindicated to be put on throne by some sort of new god or something and that would nullify everything for the previous pharaoh. The one mentioned in the bible had his handed to him after his defeat and that would mean a new one took over, and what he did before him was probably so shameful and a great defeat.

Anyway, getting back to what I was saying. The other accounts in genesis that resemble othe things like the story of Joseph vs say the egyptian tale of two brothers. No contest as the tale of the two brothers begins to lose its luster a little later down the line, and it has been suggested that the story and account of Joseph influenced the tale of two brothers.

And then there are the 10 commandments that some say are a copy from the Egyptian book of the dead.

I can see why they may think that but, the 10 commandments appear to be more absolute and make more sense and are just 10 basic things set in order, not tons of them from the book of the dead. Moses would have been out of his mind trying to remember every single thing from that book and I doubt he even read the book of the dead.

There are so many creation stories that it's a shame, but none come to as accurate and absolute as the Bible's. The bible always goes into great detail about things in its books. the gods of other religions have some weird things going on and have serious issues and get crazier and crazier, but that is not the case with our God. There just is no contest. Keep the faith in the last days my friends.

You started another project down yonder; your participation is requested. This here farrago will keep.

Astreja · 22nd June 2012, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by terryjautry

There are so many creation stories that it's a shame, but none come to as accurate and absolute as the Bible's.

Oh, I don't know... I think the Norse creation story, with matter spontaneously aggregating in the primeval void, makes at least as much sense as the two contradictory creation stories at the beginning of Genesis.

(By the way, have you found Me a Talking Snake™ yet?)

Quote:

...the gods of other religions have some weird things going on and have serious issues and get crazier and crazier, but that is not the case with our God.

(nods sagely) Já, I know what you mean. Dad and Thor and Heimdall and the rest of the Æsir and Vanir go to fight Surt and the fire giants in an attempt to save Midgard and its inhabitants, while your god... um... drowns virtually everything on the planet?

Mm. I have a pretty good idea which god has the "issues," and it isn't anyone from My clan.

Quote:

Keep the faith in the last days my friends.

Well, first of all, you're not My friend and will probably never be My friend. Secondly, I cannot "keep" what I never possessed and do not want to possess. Finally, I think you've got a frightfully useless belief system there if you're waiting for the "last days" but not doing everything humanly possible to stop them.

Ladewig · 22nd June 2012, 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by terryjautry

There are so many creation stories that it's a shame, but none come to as accurate and absolute as the Bible's.

Wait. What?
Did you just assert that the Bible creation stories are accurate?

Quote:

The gods of other religions have some weird things going on and have serious issues and get crazier and crazier, but that is not the case with our God.

Have you actually read the Bible?

You don't see Jesus cursing a fig tree for not bearing fruit out of season as crazy?

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AdMan · 22nd June 2012, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by terryjautry

I have done some extensive research on how people like to say that our bible is a copy of ancient religious texts and stories from those time periods. Some of the resemblences are quite remarkable and astounding I must say.

There are differences, but yet at the same time we must not forget a few things.

By the way I think I know another reason why there is little proof of Israelites in Egypt. Look at the egyptian creation accounts of how their god at the time was so different from out God. No contest. Sorry. Our god does not need to think like that. Once a new pharaoh is put a throne, he is vindicated to be put on throne by some sort of new god or something and that would nullify everything for the previous pharaoh. The one mentioned in the bible had his handed to him after his defeat and that would mean a new one took over, and what he did before him was probably so shameful and a great defeat.

Anyway, getting back to what I was saying. The other accounts in genesis that resemble othe things like the story of Joseph vs say the egyptian tale of two brothers. No contest as the tale of the two brothers begins to lose its luster a little later down the line, and it has been suggested that the story and account of Joseph influenced the tale of two brothers.

And then there are the 10 commandments that some say are a copy from the Egyptian book of the dead.

I can see why they may think that but, the 10 commandments appear to be more absolute and make more sense and are just 10 basic things set in order, not tons of them from the book of the dead. Moses would have been out of his mind trying to remember every single thing from that book and I doubt he even read the book of the dead.

There are so many creation stories that it's a shame, but none come to as accurate and absolute as the Bible's. The bible always goes into great detail about things in its books. the gods of other religions have some weird things going on and have serious issues and get crazier and crazier, but that is not the case with our God. There just is no contest. Keep the faith in the last days my friends.

Garbage post. Please go away if you can't post intelligently.

fuelair · 22nd June 2012, 09:46 PM

oxygen waster............

Wolfman · 22nd June 2012, 09:51 PM

Don't bother, folks. Obvious hit-and-run poster, with no intent to actually discuss what he says in the OP. Given the pure idiocy of his posts thus far, I'd say this is probably the best strategy he could employ.

Bluto · 22nd June 2012, 11:00 PM

I've come to realize that in order to be a True Bible Believer, it's virtually mandatory to become intellectually dishonest.

There's just no way to reconcile the ridiculous assertions of The Scriptures and a modicum of logic.

DC · 22nd June 2012, 11:07 PM

Your bible and your god are a joke, Genesis contains huge errors and goes into no detail, does not even mention evolution. Your god make the impression like he is a bunch of bronze age people, ignorant about almost everything.

Hokulele · 23rd June 2012, 12:33 AM

Must. Not. Post. Kittens!

TragicMonkey · 23rd June 2012, 12:46 AM

I've always been fond of Egyptian mythology. They had so many stories involving gods acquiring, or attempting to acquire, each other's semen for nefarious purposes. You know they knew how to have a good time. Even the Greek gods only went around having regular sex with mortals and each other; positively vanilla by comparison, even with the bulls and swans and golden showers.

WilsonG · 23rd June 2012, 01:09 AM

Originally Posted by terryjautry

I have done some extensive research

No, you plainly haven't.

Craig4 · 23rd June 2012, 02:52 AM

It seems obvious that terryjauntry either doesn't think his views are worth defending or he sees that he is unable to defend his ideas when exposed to scrutiny.

sphenisc · 23rd June 2012, 02:59 AM

Originally Posted by Craig4

It seems obvious that terryjauntry either doesn't think his views are worth defending or he sees that he is unable to defend his ideas when exposed to scrutiny.

Or he doesn't see any of the responses as meriting the status of an attack.

dafydd · 23rd June 2012, 03:37 AM

Originally Posted by terryjautry

There are so many creation stories that it's a shame, but none come to as accurate and absolute as the Bible's.

Great joke, keep them coming.

psionl0 · 23rd June 2012, 03:42 AM

terryjautry must have everybody on ignore on the duplicate thread. Seeing no responses to that thread, he started a new thread.

pakeha · 23rd June 2012, 04:04 AM

Originally Posted by Hokulele

Must. Not. Post. Kittens!

OK.
No kittens.

Femke · 23rd June 2012, 07:25 AM

Hi Terryjautry,

Just out of curiosity: how many posts are you supposed to have made on an 'atheist forum' before you are awarded study points on your xtian university course on proselytizing? Doesn't the curriculum say anything about, I don't know, actually engaging in any discussions?

Femke

MG1962 · 23rd June 2012, 07:27 AM

Originally Posted by Wolfman

Don't bother, folks. Obvious hit-and-run poster, with no intent to actually discuss what he says in the OP. Given the pure idiocy of his posts thus far, I'd say this is probably the best strategy he could employ.

Well you won that bet **shakes fist** curse you Wolfman

tsig · 23rd June 2012, 07:36 AM

Originally Posted by terryjautry

I have done some extensive research on how people like to say that our bible is a copy of ancient religious texts and stories from those time periods. Some of the resemblences are quite remarkable and astounding I must say.

There are differences, but yet at the same time we must not forget a few things.

By the way I think I know another reason why there is little proof of Israelites in Egypt. Look at the egyptian creation accounts of how their god at the time was so different from out God. No contest. Sorry. Our god does not need to think like that. Once a new pharaoh is put a throne, he is vindicated to be put on throne by some sort of new god or something and that would nullify everything for the previous pharaoh. The one mentioned in the bible had his handed to him after his defeat and that would mean a new one took over, and what he did before him was probably so shameful and a great defeat.

Anyway, getting back to what I was saying. The other accounts in genesis that resemble othe things like the story of Joseph vs say the egyptian tale of two brothers. No contest as the tale of the two brothers begins to lose its luster a little later down the line, and it has been suggested that the story and account of Joseph influenced the tale of two brothers.

And then there are the 10 commandments that some say are a copy from the Egyptian book of the dead.

I can see why they may think that but, the 10 commandments appear to be more absolute and make more sense and are just 10 basic things set in order, not tons of them from the book of the dead. Moses would have been out of his mind trying to remember every single thing from that book and I doubt he even read the book of the dead.

There are so many creation stories that it's a shame, but none come to as accurate and absolute as the Bible's. The bible always goes into great detail about things in its books. the gods of other religions have some weird things going on and have serious issues and get crazier and crazier, but that is not the case with our God. There just is no contest. Keep the faith in the last days my friends.

Which ten commandments?

Marduk · 23rd June 2012, 07:39 AM

Originally Posted by terryjautry

the gods of other religions have some weird things going on and have serious issues and get crazier and crazier, but that is not the case with our God. There just is no contest.

totally true, the God Enlil creates humans out of divine essence and clay, appears in a story about a ziggurat where the human language is confounded into different tongues and later wipes out most of humanity with a great flood
I'm sure you'll agree thats completely crazy

Craig4 · 23rd June 2012, 08:07 AM

Please explain the flood story in the Bible and the Epic of Gligamesh.

MG1962 · 23rd June 2012, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by Craig4

Please explain the flood story in the Bible and the Epic of Gligamesh.

In his other thread he mentioned pre-Gilgamesh evidence of the flood, sadly he's not felt the desire to answer that inquiry either

shemp · 23rd June 2012, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by terryjautry

Keep the faith in the last days my friends.

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hgc · 23rd June 2012, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by Femke

Hi Terryjautry,

Just out of curiosity: how many posts are you supposed to have made on an 'atheist forum' before you are awarded study points on your xtian university course on proselytizing? Doesn't the curriculum say anything about, I don't know, actually engaging in any discussions?

Femke

1 Peter 3:15, my interpretation: Always be prepared to give an answer to every man... uh wait, run away!

fuelair · 24th June 2012, 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by Craig4

Please explain the flood story in the Bible and the Epic of Gligamesh.

That's what Marduk asked for. Notice neither got an answer..............................Say, anybody smell troll farts around here?

Explorer · 24th June 2012, 11:54 PM

Originally Posted by terryjautry

I have done some extensive research on how people like to say that our bible is a copy of ancient religious texts and stories from those time periods.....

...And then there are the 10 commandments that some say are a copy from the Egyptian book of the dead.

I can see why they may think that but, the 10 commandments appear to be more absolute and make more sense and are just 10 basic things set in order, not tons of them from the book of the dead. Moses would have been out of his mind trying to remember every single thing from that book and I doubt he even read the book of the dead.

There are actually 14 commandments in Exodus 20:2-17 . Put Genesis and Exodus together, and it can be argued that there are 635 commanments, more than enough to put Moses in a spin. You should research your own Bible more thoroughly before posting on here and showing your limitations.

truethat · 24th June 2012, 11:57 PM

Originally Posted by Ladewig

Wait. What?
Did you just assert that the Bible creation stories are accurate?

Have you actually read the Bible?

You don't see Jesus cursing a fig tree for not bearing fruit out of season as crazy?

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LarianLeQuella · 25th June 2012, 07:03 AM

I wonder if this is some creationtard's homework to go post in a skeptic community and show how brilliant he was to the other addle minded fools?

zeggman · 25th June 2012, 07:28 AM

Originally Posted by Femke

Just out of curiosity: how many posts are you supposed to have made on an 'atheist forum' before you are awarded study points on your xtian university course on proselytizing? Doesn't the curriculum say anything about, I don't know, actually engaging in any discussions?

It does: "Too dangerous."

Craig4 · 25th June 2012, 07:41 AM

Originally Posted by LarianLeQuella

I wonder if this is some creationtard's homework to go post in a skeptic community and show how brilliant he was to the other addle minded fools?

I sometimes suspect the point of these exercises is to get inflammatory quotes from atheists for to show the "faithful" how evil we are and what a threat we pose to civilization.

Weak Kitten · 25th June 2012, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by Hokulele

Must. Not. Post. Kittens!

This thread needs MORE kittens!

Quizzical kat is quizzical!

stokes234 · 25th June 2012, 08:40 AM

Hmm. So, which book is less superior?

Nay_Sayer · 25th June 2012, 08:45 AM

I'm sure I'll get that proof any day now....

Ladewig · 25th June 2012, 09:20 AM

You may have won this round Terryjautry, but we'll meet again!

Wait. That's night right. Terryjautry didn't win this round and we won't meet again.

Ladewig · 25th June 2012, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by Craig4

I sometimes suspect the point of these exercises is to get inflammatory quotes from atheists for to show the "faithful" how evil we are and what a threat we pose to civilization.

It is mere speculation on my part, but I suspect a second reason is that these intellectually-frightened Christians can point at the Beatitudes and sanctimoniously say "ohhh, I am being persecuted for my belief in Jesus, therefore I am blessed."

aggle-rithm · 25th June 2012, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by Ladewig

Wait. What?
Did you just assert that the Bible creation stories are accurate?

Oh, yes!

Compare the first chapter of Genesis to the corresponding chapter in another printing of the same translation. EXACT MATCH!

tsig · 25th June 2012, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by Ladewig

It is mere speculation on my part, but I suspect a second reason is that these intellectually-frightened Christians can point at the Beatitudes and sanctimoniously say "ohhh, I am being persecuted for my belief in Jesus, therefore I am blessed."

Plus you get that wonderful crown of martyrdom without the messy business of dying.

22nd June 2012, 07:54 PM	#1
terryjautry Scholar Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 67	The Bible is the more superior book I have done some extensive research on how people like to say that our bible is a copy of ancient religious texts and stories from those time periods. Some of the resemblences are quite remarkable and astounding I must say. There are differences, but yet at the same time we must not forget a few things. By the way I think I know another reason why there is little proof of Israelites in Egypt. Look at the egyptian creation accounts of how their god at the time was so different from out God. No contest. Sorry. Our god does not need to think like that. Once a new pharaoh is put a throne, he is vindicated to be put on throne by some sort of new god or something and that would nullify everything for the previous pharaoh. The one mentioned in the bible had his handed to him after his defeat and that would mean a new one took over, and what he did before him was probably so shameful and a great defeat. Anyway, getting back to what I was saying. The other accounts in genesis that resemble othe things like the story of Joseph vs say the egyptian tale of two brothers. No contest as the tale of the two brothers begins to lose its luster a little later down the line, and it has been suggested that the story and account of Joseph influenced the tale of two brothers. And then there are the 10 commandments that some say are a copy from the Egyptian book of the dead. I can see why they may think that but, the 10 commandments appear to be more absolute and make more sense and are just 10 basic things set in order, not tons of them from the book of the dead. Moses would have been out of his mind trying to remember every single thing from that book and I doubt he even read the book of the dead. There are so many creation stories that it's a shame, but none come to as accurate and absolute as the Bible's. The bible always goes into great detail about things in its books. the gods of other religions have some weird things going on and have serious issues and get crazier and crazier, but that is not the case with our God. There just is no contest. Keep the faith in the last days my friends.
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22nd June 2012, 08:01 PM	#3
Gord_in_Toronto Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 13,415	Originally Posted by terryjautry I have done some extensive research on how people like to say that our bible is a copy of ancient religious texts and stories from those time periods. Some of the resemblences are quite remarkable and astounding I must say. There are differences, but yet at the same time we must not forget a few things. By the way I think I know another reason why there is little proof of Israelites in Egypt. Look at the egyptian creation accounts of how their god at the time was so different from out God. No contest. Sorry. Our god does not need to think like that. Once a new pharaoh is put a throne, he is vindicated to be put on throne by some sort of new god or something and that would nullify everything for the previous pharaoh. The one mentioned in the bible had his handed to him after his defeat and that would mean a new one took over, and what he did before him was probably so shameful and a great defeat. Anyway, getting back to what I was saying. The other accounts in genesis that resemble othe things like the story of Joseph vs say the egyptian tale of two brothers. No contest as the tale of the two brothers begins to lose its luster a little later down the line, and it has been suggested that the story and account of Joseph influenced the tale of two brothers. And then there are the 10 commandments that some say are a copy from the Egyptian book of the dead. I can see why they may think that but, the 10 commandments appear to be more absolute and make more sense and are just 10 basic things set in order, not tons of them from the book of the dead. Moses would have been out of his mind trying to remember every single thing from that book and I doubt he even read the book of the dead. There are so many creation stories that it's a shame, but none come to as accurate and absolute as the Bible's. The bible always goes into great detail about things in its books. the gods of other religions have some weird things going on and have serious issues and get crazier and crazier, but that is not the case with our God. There just is no contest. Keep the faith in the last days my friends. Don't be silly.
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22nd June 2012, 08:07 PM	#4
Resume Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 8,024	Originally Posted by terryjautry I have done some extensive research on how people like to say that our bible is a copy of ancient religious texts and stories from those time periods. Some of the resemblences are quite remarkable and astounding I must say. There are differences, but yet at the same time we must not forget a few things. By the way I think I know another reason why there is little proof of Israelites in Egypt. Look at the egyptian creation accounts of how their god at the time was so different from out God. No contest. Sorry. Our god does not need to think like that. Once a new pharaoh is put a throne, he is vindicated to be put on throne by some sort of new god or something and that would nullify everything for the previous pharaoh. The one mentioned in the bible had his handed to him after his defeat and that would mean a new one took over, and what he did before him was probably so shameful and a great defeat. Anyway, getting back to what I was saying. The other accounts in genesis that resemble othe things like the story of Joseph vs say the egyptian tale of two brothers. No contest as the tale of the two brothers begins to lose its luster a little later down the line, and it has been suggested that the story and account of Joseph influenced the tale of two brothers. And then there are the 10 commandments that some say are a copy from the Egyptian book of the dead. I can see why they may think that but, the 10 commandments appear to be more absolute and make more sense and are just 10 basic things set in order, not tons of them from the book of the dead. Moses would have been out of his mind trying to remember every single thing from that book and I doubt he even read the book of the dead. There are so many creation stories that it's a shame, but none come to as accurate and absolute as the Bible's. The bible always goes into great detail about things in its books. the gods of other religions have some weird things going on and have serious issues and get crazier and crazier, but that is not the case with our God. There just is no contest. Keep the faith in the last days my friends. You started another project down yonder; your participation is requested. This here farrago will keep.
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22nd June 2012, 09:28 PM	#6
Ladewig Hipster alien Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: not measurable Posts: 16,809	Originally Posted by terryjautry There are so many creation stories that it's a shame, but none come to as accurate and absolute as the Bible's. Wait. What? Did you just assert that the Bible creation stories are accurate? Quote: The gods of other religions have some weird things going on and have serious issues and get crazier and crazier, but that is not the case with our God. Have you actually read the Bible? You don't see Jesus cursing a fig tree for not bearing fruit out of season as crazy? ___________________________________ Is the JREF message board training wheels for people who hope to one day troll other message boards? It is not that hard to get us to believe that one is serious and sincere in one's posts.
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22nd June 2012, 09:36 PM	#7
AdMan Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 7,175	Originally Posted by terryjautry I have done some extensive research on how people like to say that our bible is a copy of ancient religious texts and stories from those time periods. Some of the resemblences are quite remarkable and astounding I must say. There are differences, but yet at the same time we must not forget a few things. By the way I think I know another reason why there is little proof of Israelites in Egypt. Look at the egyptian creation accounts of how their god at the time was so different from out God. No contest. Sorry. Our god does not need to think like that. Once a new pharaoh is put a throne, he is vindicated to be put on throne by some sort of new god or something and that would nullify everything for the previous pharaoh. The one mentioned in the bible had his handed to him after his defeat and that would mean a new one took over, and what he did before him was probably so shameful and a great defeat. Anyway, getting back to what I was saying. The other accounts in genesis that resemble othe things like the story of Joseph vs say the egyptian tale of two brothers. No contest as the tale of the two brothers begins to lose its luster a little later down the line, and it has been suggested that the story and account of Joseph influenced the tale of two brothers. And then there are the 10 commandments that some say are a copy from the Egyptian book of the dead. I can see why they may think that but, the 10 commandments appear to be more absolute and make more sense and are just 10 basic things set in order, not tons of them from the book of the dead. Moses would have been out of his mind trying to remember every single thing from that book and I doubt he even read the book of the dead. There are so many creation stories that it's a shame, but none come to as accurate and absolute as the Bible's. The bible always goes into great detail about things in its books. the gods of other religions have some weird things going on and have serious issues and get crazier and crazier, but that is not the case with our God. There just is no contest. Keep the faith in the last days my friends. Garbage post. Please go away if you can't post intelligently.
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22nd June 2012, 07:58 PM	#2
MG1962 Guest Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kansas (Australia) Posts: 14,750	There are 35 or so responses waiting your attention here http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=238367 Drive by posting, no matter the topic is really frowned upon here

22nd June 2012, 08:39 PM	#5
Astreja Springy Goddess Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 973	Originally Posted by terryjautry There are so many creation stories that it's a shame, but none come to as accurate and absolute as the Bible's. Oh, I don't know... I think the Norse creation story, with matter spontaneously aggregating in the primeval void, makes at least as much sense as the two contradictory creation stories at the beginning of Genesis. (By the way, have you found Me a Talking Snake™ yet?) Quote: ...the gods of other religions have some weird things going on and have serious issues and get crazier and crazier, but that is not the case with our God. (nods sagely) Já, I know what you mean. Dad and Thor and Heimdall and the rest of the Æsir and Vanir go to fight Surt and the fire giants in an attempt to save Midgard and its inhabitants, while your god... um... drowns virtually everything on the planet? Mm. I have a pretty good idea which god has the "issues," and it isn't anyone from My clan. Quote: Keep the faith in the last days my friends. Well, first of all, you're not My friend and will probably never be My friend. Secondly, I cannot "keep" what I never possessed and do not want to possess. Finally, I think you've got a frightfully useless belief system there if you're waiting for the "last days" but not doing everything humanly possible to stop them.

22nd June 2012, 09:46 PM	#8
fuelair Cythraul Enfys Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 28,942	oxygen waster............
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22nd June 2012, 09:51 PM	#9
Wolfman Chief Solipsistic Autosycophant Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Dongguan, China Posts: 11,809	Don't bother, folks. Obvious hit-and-run poster, with no intent to actually discuss what he says in the OP. Given the pure idiocy of his posts thus far, I'd say this is probably the best strategy he could employ.
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22nd June 2012, 11:00 PM	#10
Bluto Scholar Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 60	I've come to realize that in order to be a True Bible Believer, it's virtually mandatory to become intellectually dishonest. There's just no way to reconcile the ridiculous assertions of The Scriptures and a modicum of logic.
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22nd June 2012, 11:07 PM	#11
DC dedicated aphilatelist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Switzerland Posts: 21,654	Your bible and your god are a joke, Genesis contains huge errors and goes into no detail, does not even mention evolution. Your god make the impression like he is a bunch of bronze age people, ignorant about almost everything.
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23rd June 2012, 12:33 AM	#12
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23rd June 2012, 12:46 AM	#13
TragicMonkey Poisoned Waffles Pither Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monkey Posts: 30,081	I've always been fond of Egyptian mythology. They had so many stories involving gods acquiring, or attempting to acquire, each other's semen for nefarious purposes. You know they knew how to have a good time. Even the Greek gods only went around having regular sex with mortals and each other; positively vanilla by comparison, even with the bulls and swans and golden showers.
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23rd June 2012, 01:09 AM	#14
WilsonG Student Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 32	Originally Posted by terryjautry I have done some extensive research No, you plainly haven't.
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23rd June 2012, 02:52 AM	#15
Craig4 Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 5,363	It seems obvious that terryjauntry either doesn't think his views are worth defending or he sees that he is unable to defend his ideas when exposed to scrutiny.
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23rd June 2012, 02:59 AM	#16
sphenisc Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,749	Originally Posted by Craig4 It seems obvious that terryjauntry either doesn't think his views are worth defending or he sees that he is unable to defend his ideas when exposed to scrutiny. Or he doesn't see any of the responses as meriting the status of an attack.
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23rd June 2012, 03:37 AM	#17
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,475	Originally Posted by terryjautry There are so many creation stories that it's a shame, but none come to as accurate and absolute as the Bible's. Great joke, keep them coming.
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23rd June 2012, 03:42 AM	#18
psionl0 Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 31°58'S 115°57'E Posts: 4,776	terryjautry must have everybody on ignore on the duplicate thread. Seeing no responses to that thread, he started a new thread.

23rd June 2012, 04:04 AM	#19
pakeha Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 7,994	Originally Posted by Hokulele Must. Not. Post. Kittens! OK. No kittens.
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23rd June 2012, 07:25 AM	#20
Femke Goddess of the Glowing Sunsets Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 492	Hi Terryjautry, Just out of curiosity: how many posts are you supposed to have made on an 'atheist forum' before you are awarded study points on your xtian university course on proselytizing? Doesn't the curriculum say anything about, I don't know, actually engaging in any discussions? Femke
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23rd June 2012, 07:27 AM	#21
MG1962 Guest Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kansas (Australia) Posts: 14,750	Originally Posted by Wolfman Don't bother, folks. Obvious hit-and-run poster, with no intent to actually discuss what he says in the OP. Given the pure idiocy of his posts thus far, I'd say this is probably the best strategy he could employ. Well you won that bet shakes fist curse you Wolfman

23rd June 2012, 07:36 AM	#22
tsig a carbon based life-form Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 26,769	Originally Posted by terryjautry I have done some extensive research on how people like to say that our bible is a copy of ancient religious texts and stories from those time periods. Some of the resemblences are quite remarkable and astounding I must say. There are differences, but yet at the same time we must not forget a few things. By the way I think I know another reason why there is little proof of Israelites in Egypt. Look at the egyptian creation accounts of how their god at the time was so different from out God. No contest. Sorry. Our god does not need to think like that. Once a new pharaoh is put a throne, he is vindicated to be put on throne by some sort of new god or something and that would nullify everything for the previous pharaoh. The one mentioned in the bible had his handed to him after his defeat and that would mean a new one took over, and what he did before him was probably so shameful and a great defeat. Anyway, getting back to what I was saying. The other accounts in genesis that resemble othe things like the story of Joseph vs say the egyptian tale of two brothers. No contest as the tale of the two brothers begins to lose its luster a little later down the line, and it has been suggested that the story and account of Joseph influenced the tale of two brothers. And then there are the 10 commandments that some say are a copy from the Egyptian book of the dead. I can see why they may think that but, the 10 commandments appear to be more absolute and make more sense and are just 10 basic things set in order, not tons of them from the book of the dead. Moses would have been out of his mind trying to remember every single thing from that book and I doubt he even read the book of the dead. There are so many creation stories that it's a shame, but none come to as accurate and absolute as the Bible's. The bible always goes into great detail about things in its books. the gods of other religions have some weird things going on and have serious issues and get crazier and crazier, but that is not the case with our God. There just is no contest. Keep the faith in the last days my friends. Which ten commandments?

23rd June 2012, 07:39 AM	#23
Marduk Banned Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Newbury, Berkshire Posts: 10,242	Originally Posted by terryjautry the gods of other religions have some weird things going on and have serious issues and get crazier and crazier, but that is not the case with our God. There just is no contest. totally true, the God Enlil creates humans out of divine essence and clay, appears in a story about a ziggurat where the human language is confounded into different tongues and later wipes out most of humanity with a great flood I'm sure you'll agree thats completely crazy

23rd June 2012, 08:07 AM	#24
Craig4 Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 5,363	Please explain the flood story in the Bible and the Epic of Gligamesh.
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23rd June 2012, 08:26 AM	#25
MG1962 Guest Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kansas (Australia) Posts: 14,750	Originally Posted by Craig4 Please explain the flood story in the Bible and the Epic of Gligamesh. In his other thread he mentioned pre-Gilgamesh evidence of the flood, sadly he's not felt the desire to answer that inquiry either

23rd June 2012, 09:11 AM	#27
hgc Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 13,012	Originally Posted by Femke Hi Terryjautry, Just out of curiosity: how many posts are you supposed to have made on an 'atheist forum' before you are awarded study points on your xtian university course on proselytizing? Doesn't the curriculum say anything about, I don't know, actually engaging in any discussions? Femke 1 Peter 3:15, my interpretation: Always be prepared to give an answer to every man... uh wait, run away!
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24th June 2012, 10:35 PM	#28
fuelair Cythraul Enfys Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 28,942	Originally Posted by Craig4 Please explain the flood story in the Bible and the Epic of Gligamesh. That's what Marduk asked for. Notice neither got an answer..............................Say, anybody smell troll farts around here?
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24th June 2012, 11:54 PM	#29
Explorer Muse Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 959	Originally Posted by terryjautry I have done some extensive research on how people like to say that our bible is a copy of ancient religious texts and stories from those time periods..... ...And then there are the 10 commandments that some say are a copy from the Egyptian book of the dead. I can see why they may think that but, the 10 commandments appear to be more absolute and make more sense and are just 10 basic things set in order, not tons of them from the book of the dead. Moses would have been out of his mind trying to remember every single thing from that book and I doubt he even read the book of the dead. There are actually 14 commandments in Exodus 20:2-17 . Put Genesis and Exodus together, and it can be argued that there are 635 commanments, more than enough to put Moses in a spin. You should research your own Bible more thoroughly before posting on here and showing your limitations.
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24th June 2012, 11:57 PM	#30
truethat Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 8,628	Originally Posted by Ladewig Wait. What? Did you just assert that the Bible creation stories are accurate? Have you actually read the Bible? You don't see Jesus cursing a fig tree for not bearing fruit out of season as crazy? ___________________________________ Is the JREF message board training wheels for people who hope to one day troll other message boards? It is not that hard to get us to believe that one is serious and sincere in one's posts. of course not. LOL
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25th June 2012, 07:03 AM	#31
LarianLeQuella Elf Wino Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: 3rd Rock from the Sun Posts: 1,995	I wonder if this is some creationtard's homework to go post in a skeptic community and show how brilliant he was to the other addle minded fools?
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25th June 2012, 07:28 AM	#32
zeggman Graduate Poster Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,761	Originally Posted by Femke Just out of curiosity: how many posts are you supposed to have made on an 'atheist forum' before you are awarded study points on your xtian university course on proselytizing? Doesn't the curriculum say anything about, I don't know, actually engaging in any discussions? It does: "Too dangerous."
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25th June 2012, 07:41 AM	#33
Craig4 Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 5,363	Originally Posted by LarianLeQuella I wonder if this is some creationtard's homework to go post in a skeptic community and show how brilliant he was to the other addle minded fools? I sometimes suspect the point of these exercises is to get inflammatory quotes from atheists for to show the "faithful" how evil we are and what a threat we pose to civilization.
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25th June 2012, 08:36 AM	#34
Weak Kitten Graduate Poster Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Lost and lonely...will you be my friend? Posts: 1,725	Originally Posted by Hokulele Must. Not. Post. Kittens! This thread needs MORE kittens! Quizzical kat is quizzical!
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25th June 2012, 08:40 AM	#35
stokes234 Master Poster Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: UK Posts: 2,295	Hmm. So, which book is less superior?
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25th June 2012, 08:45 AM	#36
Nay_Sayer Muse Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 742	I'm sure I'll get that proof any day now....