Three thugs in Louisiana batter and rape a 76-year-old woman.

Baloney · 27th June 2012, 05:43 PM

Just horrific.

Neighbor reacts to brutal attack against elderly woman

Howie Felterbush · 27th June 2012, 05:54 PM

Scumbags.

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The Dark Lord · 27th June 2012, 05:59 PM

I hope they get life sentences.

AlBell · 27th June 2012, 06:01 PM

I hope they live out their lives in a fmita federal prison.

sgtbaker · 27th June 2012, 06:06 PM

They are all in their teens and the story reports that they are cooperating. If they get found guilty, they are going away for a long time. Was it worth it, for them? It's one thing to break into a house and steal things but what is it that draws certain people in to completely victimizing another human being? I just can't understand that.

DragonLady · 27th June 2012, 06:12 PM

I keep thinking that as I get older and less attractive to the younger set that I don't have to worry much about my personal security.

Apparently not.

The Dark Lord · 27th June 2012, 06:28 PM

I was looking over the LA statutes on this. This is aggravated rape because the victim was over 65 and because there were more than one offender.

Aggravated rape in LA means a mandatory life sentence, no parole. Have fun spending the rest of your worthless lives in prison, scumbags!

AlBell · 28th June 2012, 07:16 PM

Perhaps we can say goodbye to three members of the underclass (being discussed in a thread here).

Where is a Bernard Goetz or George Zimmerman when he was needed?

Cain · 28th June 2012, 10:00 PM

And of course the news page is filled with racist comments.

bigred · 28th June 2012, 11:40 PM

Originally Posted by The Dark Lord

Have fun spending the rest of your worthless lives in prison, scumbags!

At taxpayer expense. I'd rather they were raped by a large # of inmates first, then shot. Also videotape this and show it to "at risk" teens across the country.

Caper · 28th June 2012, 11:52 PM

Originally Posted by Cain

And of course the news page is filled with racist comments.

Without exception... every single time there is a news story involving a black guy.... it's filled with racist comments.

The racists are right about one thing. If this was a story about how 3 white guys raped a 76 year old black women... this would never be off CNN.

Roger Ramjets · 29th June 2012, 12:03 AM

Originally Posted by bigred

I'd rather they were raped by a large # of inmates first, then shot.

At taxpayer expense? Or should we call for volunteers?

Quote:

Also videotape this and show it to "at risk" teens across the country.

What an excellent idea! Should help those "at risk" teens to perfect their next rape and murder!

Halfcentaur · 29th June 2012, 01:50 AM

Originally Posted by bigred

At taxpayer expense. I'd rather they were raped by a large # of inmates first, then shot. Also videotape this and show it to "at risk" teens across the country.

Yeah, rape can be so awesome when people really deserve their raping! Maybe we should let people line up and take turns, maybe you'd like to try your hand at it? After all, it's a fine thing when deserved.

sgtbaker · 29th June 2012, 05:17 AM

Originally Posted by Cain

And of course the news page is filled with racist comments.

I love the ones in there that start off sounding; I'm not racist but... then they go on to show a "problem" with a particular race.

Caper · 29th June 2012, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by sgtbaker

I love the ones in there that start off sounding; I'm not racist but... then they go on to show a "problem" with a particular race.

If you have a problem with a particular race shouldn't you preface your comments with I'm not racist?

fuelair · 29th June 2012, 10:38 AM

I'm not a racist, but I have noticed an awful lot of humans seem to like to degrade and brutalize others. You gotta wonder why!! Just pointing out the truth here!!

Baloney · 29th June 2012, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by fuelair

I'm not a racist, but I have noticed an awful lot of humans seem to like to degrade and brutalize others. You gotta wonder why!! Just pointing out the truth here!!

Bigot.

(ETA: I love the word "bigot"! How awful am I?!)

jasonpatterson · 29th June 2012, 10:45 AM

These guys are going to die young in Angola. It's sad that they've wrecked their lives so early, and messed up the life of an old woman in the process.

Spindrift · 29th June 2012, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by bigred

At taxpayer expense. I'd rather they were raped by a large # of inmates first, then shot. Also videotape this and show it to "at risk" teens across the country.

Do we show it before or after the abstinence only lecture?

DC · 29th June 2012, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by Caper

If you have a problem with a particular race shouldn't you preface your comments with I'm not racist?

If you have a problem with a particular race then you are a racist.

Caper · 29th June 2012, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by DC

If you have a problem with a particular race then you are a racist.

Good then that makes almost anyone racist.

If you were a Japanese American during WW2 and you had a problem with the way white people were treating you.... then you were apparently racist.... That's good thinking right there.

KoihimeNakamura · 29th June 2012, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by Caper

Good then that makes almost anyone racist.

If you were a Japanese American during WW2 and you had a problem with the way white people were treating you.... then you were apparently racist.... That's good thinking right there.

You were if you assumed it was becuase they were White..

In any c ase, I can't say I'm sad they're getting life without parole if convicted, but I really don't think we should cheer on prison rape.

Caper · 29th June 2012, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by KoihimeNakamura

You were if you assumed it was becuase they were White..

In any c ase, I can't say I'm sad they're getting life without parole if convicted, but I really don't think we should cheer on prison rape.

If you assumed they were treating you badly because they were white, you would have been exactly right. There is nothing wrong with that. If you were to assume that there is something inherently wrong with someone because they are white... then maybe you are a racist.

KoihimeNakamura · 29th June 2012, 07:21 PM

Please restate that in plain English.

Caper · 29th June 2012, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by KoihimeNakamura

Please restate that in plain English.

Really? You can't understand that?

If you are black and you believe you have to be careful walking around in white neighborhoods because you may have a white guy call the cops on you.... you are not a racist. If you believe that the reason they might call the cops on you is because they are white and you are black... you would be correct... and there is nothing wrong with that.

If you believe as a black person, that whites have a genetic problem... as to make them harbor hatred towards black people... then yes they may be a racist.....

KoihimeNakamura · 29th June 2012, 08:26 PM

I can generically agree with that.

Caper · 29th June 2012, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by KoihimeNakamura

I can generically agree with that.

The problem is that people kind of confuse race and culture (without getting into the debate if there is such thing as race (I'm defining race as how society generally defines race)).

Personally I can find a problem with most any culture... and I admire things about a lot of cultures.

When people say they have a problem with black people, they usually mean they have a problem with some aspect of American black culture..... I don't think that is racist at all. It can be, depending who is making the argument. But if you can make a decent argument against a problem with you see in any specific culture... I have no problem with it.

Mumbles · 29th June 2012, 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by Caper

When people say they have a problem with black people, they usually mean they have a problem with some aspect of American black culture..... I don't think that is racist at all. It can be, depending who is making the argument. But if you can make a decent argument against a problem with you see in any specific culture... I have no problem with it.

I've noticed that most people who say they have a problem with black culture in the US, often have no insight into any aspect of Black American culture. They're usually the guys who claim that baggy clothes or do-rags are about "looking like criminals", or that black people "hate Bill Cosby".

Which is not to say that this sort of crime is acceptable. Obviously, the attackers should go to jail for a long time.

mike3 · 30th June 2012, 02:04 AM

Originally Posted by Caper

If you assumed they were treating you badly because they were white, you would have been exactly right. There is nothing wrong with that. If you were to assume that there is something inherently wrong with someone because they are white... then maybe you are a racist.

Uhh... WTF?

"treating you badly because they were white" is right -- how does that not imply that "there is something inherently wrong with them because they are white"?

Caper · 30th June 2012, 02:24 AM

Originally Posted by mike3

Uhh... WTF?

"treating you badly because they were white" is right -- how does that not imply that "there is something inherently wrong with them because they are white"?

Because it is learned behavior and not genetic. If you were black in the 1950's and you saw a pretty girl who was white, you are perfectly fine to make negative judgments about that persons character based solely on skin color. You should not be making a genetic connection... though I doubt many people think that in depth about it. That's not to say, you shouldn't keep an open mind about people. But you use what information you have to make quick initial assessments... So the black guy in the bar in the 1950's (if they were allowed in the bar) should probably tread carefully before striking up a conversation with a white woman.... based solely on the negative characteristics associated with white people of the time.

Caper · 30th June 2012, 02:33 AM

Originally Posted by Mumbles

I've noticed that most people who say they have a problem with black culture in the US, often have no insight into any aspect of Black American culture. They're usually the guys who claim that baggy clothes or do-rags are about "looking like criminals", or that black people "hate Bill Cosby".

Wait... What? This isn't the extent of black culture?, or whistle tips? You gotta to be kidding.

mike3 · 30th June 2012, 03:07 AM

Originally Posted by Caper

Because it is learned behavior and not genetic. If you were black in the 1950's and you saw a pretty girl who was white, you are perfectly fine to make negative judgments about that persons character based solely on skin color. You should not be making a genetic connection... though I doubt many people think that in depth about it. That's not to say, you shouldn't keep an open mind about people. But you use what information you have to make quick initial assessments... So the black guy in the bar in the 1950's (if they were allowed in the bar) should probably tread carefully before striking up a conversation with a white woman.... based solely on the negative characteristics associated with white people of the time.

Does what you've said here in this post mean that one better think "criminal" when one sees "black person"?

Caper · 30th June 2012, 03:48 AM

Originally Posted by mike3

Does what you've said here in this post mean that one better think "criminal" when one sees "black person"?

Not at all..... But hey I guess if that's the first thing you thought of, then I guess we know who may have racist tendencies.

aggle-rithm · 30th June 2012, 04:03 AM

Originally Posted by Cain

And of course the news page is filled with racist comments.

Even those who try NOT to be racist somehow manage it:

Quote:

And the "race" is irrelevant. White people are not genetically good people and black people are not genetically bad people. Most black people are not this evil.

So they're evil, but geez, not THAT evil.

DC · 30th June 2012, 05:08 AM

Originally Posted by Caper

Good then that makes almost anyone racist.

If you were a Japanese American during WW2 and you had a problem with the way white people were treating you.... then you were apparently racist.... That's good thinking right there.

which white people, the Nazis or the US americans? your example fails.

Caper · 30th June 2012, 05:30 AM

Originally Posted by DC

which white people, the Nazis or the US americans? your example fails.

My example is perfect.

DC · 30th June 2012, 05:41 AM

Originally Posted by Caper

My example is perfect.

no, Americans are not a race. there it is where you fail.

Boone 870 · 30th June 2012, 12:36 PM

Something similar to this occurred in Tulsa, Oklahoma in March. A 20-year-old thug broke into an elderly couples home, raped and beat the 85-year-old woman to death and beat the 90-year-old husband bad enough that he died a few weeks later in the hospital. Disgusting.

fuelair · 30th June 2012, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by Caper

The problem is that people kind of confuse race and culture (without getting into the debate if there is such thing as race (I'm defining race as how society generally defines race)).

Personally I can find a problem with most any culture... and I admire things about a lot of cultures.

When people say they have a problem with black people, they usually mean they have a problem with some aspect of American black culture..... I don't think that is racist at all. It can be, depending who is making the argument. But if you can make a decent argument against a problem with you see in any specific culture... I have no problem with it.

The problems just on these threads distinguishing between race (breakdowns of humanity on perceived physiological features by ethnologists/anthropologists) and cultures (many multi-ethnic/race ) are amazing. Never could get over Hispanic as a race..............

sadhatter · 30th June 2012, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by Boone 870

Something similar to this occurred in Tulsa, Oklahoma in March. A 20-year-old thug broke into an elderly couples home, raped and beat the 85-year-old woman to death and beat the 90-year-old husband bad enough that he died a few weeks later in the hospital. Disgusting.

Never understood the premise of thugs attacking the weak. Seriously.

It seems a big part of thug culture ( whether we are talking about gangstas or skinheads.) is being tough. That i get, no one wants to be a pansy. So i also get the constant fights with other gangs, the cops, etc. And i can even get the crime, one doesn't care about their effect on others, nothing i would do, but in the context of what they do, i get it.

But where exactly does hurting folks who can't fight back come into the equation? From a purely pragmatic standpoint, it does not show that one has any degree of skill in causing harm, your picking the easiest target, and doing something horrible. Maybe it can show a degree of ingenuity if one is doing it in some form of inventive manner, but even then, a knocked out opponent of equal or greater stature to ones self can have all the same things done, and you had to work to get there.

It just boggles my mind, i can put aside all my moral qualms about what they do, and i still can't wrap my head around physically hurting those who are very weak.

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The Dark Lord Suspended Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,860	I was looking over the LA statutes on this. This is aggravated rape because the victim was over 65 and because there were more than one offender. Aggravated rape in LA means a mandatory life sentence, no parole. Have fun spending the rest of your worthless lives in prison, scumbags!
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bigred Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: USA Posts: 12,534	Originally Posted by The Dark Lord Have fun spending the rest of your worthless lives in prison, scumbags! At taxpayer expense. I'd rather they were raped by a large # of inmates first, then shot. Also videotape this and show it to "at risk" teens across the country.

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Caper Master Poster Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,946	Originally Posted by Cain And of course the news page is filled with racist comments. Without exception... every single time there is a news story involving a black guy.... it's filled with racist comments. The racists are right about one thing. If this was a story about how 3 white guys raped a 76 year old black women... this would never be off CNN.
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Roger Ramjets Muse Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 710	Originally Posted by bigred I'd rather they were raped by a large # of inmates first, then shot. At taxpayer expense? Or should we call for volunteers? Quote: Also videotape this and show it to "at risk" teens across the country. What an excellent idea! Should help those "at risk" teens to perfect their next rape and murder!
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Halfcentaur Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 5,946	Originally Posted by bigred At taxpayer expense. I'd rather they were raped by a large # of inmates first, then shot. Also videotape this and show it to "at risk" teens across the country. Yeah, rape can be so awesome when people really deserve their raping! Maybe we should let people line up and take turns, maybe you'd like to try your hand at it? After all, it's a fine thing when deserved.
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sgtbaker Philosopher Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,547	Originally Posted by Cain And of course the news page is filled with racist comments. I love the ones in there that start off sounding; I'm not racist but... then they go on to show a "problem" with a particular race.
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Caper Master Poster Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,946	Originally Posted by sgtbaker I love the ones in there that start off sounding; I'm not racist but... then they go on to show a "problem" with a particular race. If you have a problem with a particular race shouldn't you preface your comments with I'm not racist?
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DC dedicated aphilatelist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Switzerland Posts: 21,651	Originally Posted by Caper If you have a problem with a particular race shouldn't you preface your comments with I'm not racist? If you have a problem with a particular race then you are a racist.
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Caper Master Poster Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,946	Originally Posted by DC If you have a problem with a particular race then you are a racist. Good then that makes almost anyone racist. If you were a Japanese American during WW2 and you had a problem with the way white people were treating you.... then you were apparently racist.... That's good thinking right there.
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29th June 2012, 07:09 PM	#22
KoihimeNakamura Creativity Murderer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Graham, WA Posts: 6,852	Originally Posted by Caper Good then that makes almost anyone racist. If you were a Japanese American during WW2 and you had a problem with the way white people were treating you.... then you were apparently racist.... That's good thinking right there. You were if you assumed it was becuase they were White.. In any c ase, I can't say I'm sad they're getting life without parole if convicted, but I really don't think we should cheer on prison rape.
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Caper Master Poster Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,946	Originally Posted by KoihimeNakamura You were if you assumed it was becuase they were White.. In any c ase, I can't say I'm sad they're getting life without parole if convicted, but I really don't think we should cheer on prison rape. If you assumed they were treating you badly because they were white, you would have been exactly right. There is nothing wrong with that. If you were to assume that there is something inherently wrong with someone because they are white... then maybe you are a racist.
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29th June 2012, 07:21 PM	#24
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29th June 2012, 07:34 PM	#25
Caper Master Poster Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,946	Originally Posted by KoihimeNakamura Please restate that in plain English. Really? You can't understand that? If you are black and you believe you have to be careful walking around in white neighborhoods because you may have a white guy call the cops on you.... you are not a racist. If you believe that the reason they might call the cops on you is because they are white and you are black... you would be correct... and there is nothing wrong with that. If you believe as a black person, that whites have a genetic problem... as to make them harbor hatred towards black people... then yes they may be a racist.....
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29th June 2012, 08:26 PM	#26
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29th June 2012, 08:46 PM	#27
Caper Master Poster Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,946	Originally Posted by KoihimeNakamura I can generically agree with that. The problem is that people kind of confuse race and culture (without getting into the debate if there is such thing as race (I'm defining race as how society generally defines race)). Personally I can find a problem with most any culture... and I admire things about a lot of cultures. When people say they have a problem with black people, they usually mean they have a problem with some aspect of American black culture..... I don't think that is racist at all. It can be, depending who is making the argument. But if you can make a decent argument against a problem with you see in any specific culture... I have no problem with it.
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29th June 2012, 11:56 PM	#28
Mumbles Muse Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 621	Originally Posted by Caper When people say they have a problem with black people, they usually mean they have a problem with some aspect of American black culture..... I don't think that is racist at all. It can be, depending who is making the argument. But if you can make a decent argument against a problem with you see in any specific culture... I have no problem with it. I've noticed that most people who say they have a problem with black culture in the US, often have no insight into any aspect of Black American culture. They're usually the guys who claim that baggy clothes or do-rags are about "looking like criminals", or that black people "hate Bill Cosby". Which is not to say that this sort of crime is acceptable. Obviously, the attackers should go to jail for a long time.
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mike3 Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,942	Originally Posted by Caper If you assumed they were treating you badly because they were white, you would have been exactly right. There is nothing wrong with that. If you were to assume that there is something inherently wrong with someone because they are white... then maybe you are a racist. Uhh... WTF? "treating you badly because they were white" is right -- how does that not imply that "there is something inherently wrong with them because they are white"?
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Caper Master Poster Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,946	Originally Posted by mike3 Uhh... WTF? "treating you badly because they were white" is right -- how does that not imply that "there is something inherently wrong with them because they are white"? Because it is learned behavior and not genetic. If you were black in the 1950's and you saw a pretty girl who was white, you are perfectly fine to make negative judgments about that persons character based solely on skin color. You should not be making a genetic connection... though I doubt many people think that in depth about it. That's not to say, you shouldn't keep an open mind about people. But you use what information you have to make quick initial assessments... So the black guy in the bar in the 1950's (if they were allowed in the bar) should probably tread carefully before striking up a conversation with a white woman.... based solely on the negative characteristics associated with white people of the time.
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30th June 2012, 02:33 AM	#31
Caper Master Poster Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,946	Originally Posted by Mumbles I've noticed that most people who say they have a problem with black culture in the US, often have no insight into any aspect of Black American culture. They're usually the guys who claim that baggy clothes or do-rags are about "looking like criminals", or that black people "hate Bill Cosby". Wait... What? This isn't the extent of black culture?, or whistle tips? You gotta to be kidding.
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30th June 2012, 03:07 AM	#32
mike3 Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,942	Originally Posted by Caper Because it is learned behavior and not genetic. If you were black in the 1950's and you saw a pretty girl who was white, you are perfectly fine to make negative judgments about that persons character based solely on skin color. You should not be making a genetic connection... though I doubt many people think that in depth about it. That's not to say, you shouldn't keep an open mind about people. But you use what information you have to make quick initial assessments... So the black guy in the bar in the 1950's (if they were allowed in the bar) should probably tread carefully before striking up a conversation with a white woman.... based solely on the negative characteristics associated with white people of the time. Does what you've said here in this post mean that one better think "criminal" when one sees "black person"?
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30th June 2012, 03:48 AM	#33
Caper Master Poster Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,946	Originally Posted by mike3 Does what you've said here in this post mean that one better think "criminal" when one sees "black person"? Not at all..... But hey I guess if that's the first thing you thought of, then I guess we know who may have racist tendencies.
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30th June 2012, 04:03 AM	#34
aggle-rithm Ardent Formulist Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 14,150	Originally Posted by Cain And of course the news page is filled with racist comments. Even those who try NOT to be racist somehow manage it: Quote: And the "race" is irrelevant. White people are not genetically good people and black people are not genetically bad people. Most black people are not this evil. So they're evil, but geez, not THAT evil.
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30th June 2012, 05:08 AM	#35
DC dedicated aphilatelist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Switzerland Posts: 21,651	Originally Posted by Caper Good then that makes almost anyone racist. If you were a Japanese American during WW2 and you had a problem with the way white people were treating you.... then you were apparently racist.... That's good thinking right there. which white people, the Nazis or the US americans? your example fails.
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