Moderated: Will the 2012 Olympic Games in London be held?

[Marcus]

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

20120702

...I just share to you His prophecies about the coming war and the 2012 Olympic Games. I say that if His prophecies do not come true, I will still pick out what I believe is good and discard what is evil, including His sermons. I will be tight-lipped about prophecies because the future is really hard to predict.

This answers a question of mine that you skipped. Even after your prophets predictions fail you will still Believe.

It's a pity really, this was the best opportunity, I think it's safe to assume that future predictions won't have a specific time frame associated with them, unless they are comfortably far in the future.

[SezMe]

Originally Posted by Marcus

Even after your prophets predictions fail you will still Believe.

I think this is a key point. If (when) these prophecies fail completely, that should occasion a complete rethink of his whole attitude. Top to bottom. Soup to nuts. But PC already says it will not deter him from his illusions. He'll go looking for another god. It's sad, really.

[Akuma Tennou]

Originally Posted by tsig

Sounds like it's pretty crowded in there, How many spirits can inhabit a soul? is it the same number that can dance on the head of a pin?

Mark, 5:9:
And He asked him, "What is thy name?" And he answered, saying, "My name is Legion: for we are many."

[AdMan]

Strike 3--you're out.

Hey, PeaceCrusader, I see that you ran away from the Philippine Atheists Forum after your prediction for WWIII happening in April didn't come true earlier this year.

I sincerely hope that you've been honest with us and won't run away from here too once your holy spirit is once again wrong.

[Cantab]

Originally Posted by AdMan

Strike 3--you're out.

Hey, PeaceCrusader, I see that you ran away from the Philippine Atheists Forum after your prediction for WWIII happening in April didn't come true earlier this year.

I sincerely hope that you've been honest with us and won't run away from here too once your holy spirit is once again wrong.

That doesn't bode well. PeaceCrusader already knew his "holy spirit" had been wrong about WWIII, yet continued to believe. Also, he never mentioned that failure on this board, instead leading us to believe (by omission) that the "spirit" hadn't been proven itself false already.

PC, it appears your "spirit" or the woman pretending to "channel" it, is fraudulent. And although I don't like making accusations, it also appears that you are too, since you withheld pertinent information in an effort to falsely represent the spirit/channeler.

[Astreja]

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

I say only because there is only one god who is true (John 17:3).

I think that John 17:3 is wrong, and that no such god exists anywhere in the universe.

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Do you have any better criteria than these? I like to know.

My sole criterion is to proceed on the assumption that no gods exist and no gods matter. Why should I subjugate reason and common sense to an untested god-hypothesis when I can live a fulfilling life without it?

[Astreja]

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

I know that the Holy Spirit is different from the blind woman that He appropriates.

I'm wondering if this woman is actually blind, or if she has a seeing assistant in another room who feeds her information via an earphone. (I also doubt very much that she'd expose herself to a properly-structured test of her abilities, as she has a lot to lose if she fails the test.)

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Has anyone else noticed that PeaceCrusader works his way backwards when it comes to responding to posts? How odd is that?

Originally Posted by Foolmewunz

Those dinosaur comets are probably about a tenth of the size of the blasts that would come about in a no holds barred WWIII.

This is "old" and I'm being nitpicky, but the Chicxulub asteroid supposedly released energy equivalent to roughly 2 million Tsar Bombas (at 50 megatons, the most powerful nuclear weapon ever detonated).

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

Satan does not know what will happen in the future. So do not expect him to give any prediction. Otherwise, his being a false god will be exposed.

But surely he could make things happen through his agents and powers of deception. Otherwise, Satan's not much of a boogeyman, is he?

Originally Posted by AdMan

He's now trying to say that despite this, he may not dismiss all of his "spirit's" teachings, which is ludicrous.

He's even gone as far as to say, essentially, that "if God loves us, this won't happen." He has his out. It's strange that it took him so long to come up with it.

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

Do you think that the Holy Spirit is “wholly fraudulent” if His prophecies do not come true?

It would at least be a sin to heed anything the false god says, wouldn't it? Yet that's exactly what you've decided you will do. The One True God certainly would not look kindly on such behavior. You know this is true.

Furthermore, you're suggesting to others that it is sometimes OK to listen to false gods. That is in direct contradiction to... everything ever said about false gods. You've almost certainly damned yourself. Unless... you're an agent of Satan himself. That would explain many things.

Originally Posted by AdMan

Hey, PeaceCrusader, I see that you ran away from the Philippine Atheists Forum after your prediction for WWIII happening in April didn't come true earlier this year.

I sincerely hope that you've been honest with us and won't run away from here too once your holy spirit is once again wrong.

But that was a different One True God. He surely abandoned that false god and continued his search. This prophecy is from his new One True God.

End this nonsense, PeaceCrusader, for your own well-being and the well-being of those around you. By doing so, you would certainly do far more good than this insanity that you're currently engaged in.

[Akuma Tennou]

Originally Posted by AdMan

Strike 3--you're out.

Hey, PeaceCrusader, I see that you ran away from the Philippine Atheists Forum after your prediction for WWIII happening in April didn't come true earlier this year.

I sincerely hope that you've been honest with us and won't run away from here too once your holy spirit is once again wrong.

waw! so when he said that he would probably sort out what's right and wrong from his voice if her prediction fails, he had already did it once.

[Akuma Tennou]

Originally Posted by Cl1mh4224rd

Has anyone else noticed that PeaceCrusader works his way backwards when it comes to responding to posts? How odd is that?

i think this is not that weird. how to go to the first unread post in the subscribed threads is a somewhat hidden feature (i'm not used to vbulletin) so reading the thread backwards is way easier

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Originally Posted by Akuma Tennou

i think this is not that weird. how to go to the first unread post in the subscribed threads is a somewhat hidden feature (i'm not used to vbulletin) so reading the thread backwards is way easier

Fair point.

[Akhenaten]

Y a 'n oeuf ŕ la coque,
Y a huîtr' de Cancale
Y a c'est epatant,
Y a systčme métrique,
Y a Saint Cucufa,
Y a Catherine de Russie,
Y a Troyes en Champagne,
Y a deux testaments, l'ancien et le nouveau oh oh,
Mais y a qu'un cheveu sur la tęte ŕ Mathieu.

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

20120702.0620

@laca, #851

Yes, if His prophecies fail, I will use the same criteria in determining a god that I will worship – that he must be a spirit who I cannot see or touch, that He is omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscient, and that He must live for eternity including during the creation of this world. If he fails in any of these, then he is not the only true God. I say only because there is only one god who is true (John 17:3). Do you have any better criteria than these? I like to know.

The answer is right in front of you. Stop denying the obvious truth and step into the light.

O sole god without equal!
You are alone, shining in your form of the living Aten.
Risen, radiant, distant and near.

[laca]

Originally Posted by AdMan

Strike 3--you're out.

Hey, PeaceCrusader, I see that you ran away from the Philippine Atheists Forum after your prediction for WWIII happening in April didn't come true earlier this year.

I sincerely hope that you've been honest with us and won't run away from here too once your holy spirit is once again wrong.

Are you sure? From what google translate tells me, on the first page of that thread he said

Quote:

20120207.0835

@ BuerForcas

I have not the end of the world. In my opinion, in the middle of this year, Between 2012-06-21 and 2012-07-21 inclusive, may occur. Perhaps, the war told us the Holy Spirit will start. This World War III. And nuclear war.

Sounds on par with his claims here.

[laca]

Originally Posted by Akuma Tennou

i think this is not that weird. how to go to the first unread post in the subscribed threads is a somewhat hidden feature (i'm not used to vbulletin) so reading the thread backwards is way easier

Reading it might very well be, but understanding it? I doubt it.

[dafydd]

Originally Posted by AdMan

Strike 3--you're out.

Hey, PeaceCrusader, I see that you ran away from the Philippine Atheists Forum after your prediction for WWIII happening in April didn't come true earlier this year.

I sincerely hope that you've been honest with us and won't run away from here too once your holy spirit is once again wrong.

Well, Peace Crusader?

[PeaceCrusader]

Originally Posted by Akuma Tennou

waw! so when he said that he would probably sort out what's right and wrong from his voice if her prediction fails, he had already did it once.

20120702.1945

@Akuma Tennou, #929

Yes, it was still last April (2012-04) that I stopped, but not quit, participating in Philippine Atheists Forum. Why? Because I was in the Philippines in May (2012-05) and came back home only in 06-03. Then, I have been occupied in this JREF forum. I prefer this forum because there is more participation here than in the Philippine Atheists Forum.

It is not a “her prediction” but “His prediction”. I still maintain what the Holy Spirit said that the 2012 Olympic Games will not be held and that there will be a world war prior to this Games on a Wednesday in the middle of this year, i.e. 06-27, 07-04, 07-11, or 07-18. The nuclear exchange will be for eight hours.

Watch out for Vietnam, one of the six claimants of the disputed Spratly Islands.

[Andrew Wiggin]

Originally Posted by Akhenaten

The answer is right in front of you. Stop denying the obvious truth and step into the light.

http://www.yvonneclaireadams.com/HostedStuff/TheSun.png
O sole god without equal!
You are alone, shining in your form of the living Aten.
Risen, radiant, distant and near.



http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting...68f6786ce4.gif

Works for me. George thought so too.

Originally Posted by George Carlin

So rather than be just another mindless religious robot, mindlessly and aimlessly and blindly believing that all of this is in the hands of some spooky incompetent father figure who doesn't give a ****, I decided to look around for something else to worship. Something I could really count on.

And immediately, I thought of the sun. Happened like that. Overnight I became a sun-worshipper. Well, not overnight, you can't see the sun at night. But first thing the next morning, I became a sun-worshipper. Several reasons. First of all, I can see the sun, okay? Unlike some other gods I could mention, I can actually see the sun. I'm big on that. If I can see something, I don't know, it kind of helps the credibility along, you know? So everyday I can see the sun, as it gives me everything I need; heat, light, food, flowers in the park, reflections on the lake, an occasional skin cancer, but hey. At least there are no crucifixions, and we're not setting people on fire simply because they don't agree with us.

[PeaceCrusader]

Originally Posted by Astreja

I think that John 17:3 is wrong, and that no such god exists anywhere in the universe.



My sole criterion is to proceed on the assumption that no gods exist and no gods matter. Why should I subjugate reason and common sense to an untested god-hypothesis when I can live a fulfilling life without it?

20120702.2010

@Astreja, #926

If your sole criterion is that there is no god, then please tell us what makes you, who is alive, different from someone who is dead inside a coffin or in the cemetery.

[Akhenaten]

A tenner each way.

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

20120702.2010

@Astreja, #926

If your sole criterion is that there is no god, then please tell us what makes you, who is alive, different from someone who is dead inside a coffin or in the cemetery.

The only thing that saves this from being the stupidest question ever asked is that it's complete gibberish.

[Jack by the hedge]

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

20120702.2010


If your sole criterion is that there is no god, then please tell us what makes you, who is alive, different from someone who is dead inside a coffin or in the cemetery.

AKGC414EBP48


I think you asked this question before but it got overlooked.

What makes me alive is that the complex array of chemical, biological and electrical processes that make my body work are still going on. One day they will stop and I will be dead.

I imagine you have a different answer in mind; one which involves magic.

[PeaceCrusader]

Originally Posted by AdMan

Strike 3--you're out.

Hey, PeaceCrusader, I see that you ran away from the Philippine Atheists Forum after your prediction for WWIII happening in April didn't come true earlier this year.

I sincerely hope that you've been honest with us and won't run away from here too once your holy spirit is once again wrong.

20120702.2025

@AdMan, #924

No, Adman, I did not run away from the Philippine Atheists Forum. As I said to Akuma Tennou, I was in the Philippines in May (2012-05) and when I came back, I have been tied down to this forum. There is more participation here than over there. Later, I will come back there.

You are assuming that the predictions of the Holy Spirit that the 2012 Olympic Games will not be held because of a world war that will start on a Wednesday in the middle of this year from the Philippines will not happen. I assure you, they will happen. We have passed one of the four Wednesdays without the war happening yet. We still have 07-04, 07-11, and 07-18.

I will be here even after 07-18. What will you do if you survive the nuclear holocaust and His prophecies come true? Will you believe in Him?


Please watch out for Vietnam, one of the six claimants of the disputed resource-rich Spratly Islands.

[PeaceCrusader]

Originally Posted by Jack by the hedge

AKGC414EBP48


I think you asked this question before but it got overlooked.

What makes me alive is that the complex array of chemical, biological and electrical processes that make my body work are still going on. One day they will stop and I will be dead.

I imagine you have a different answer in mind; one which involves magic.

20120702.2045

@Jack by the hedge, #940

Was the question overlooked or ignored?

Thank you, Jack by the hedge, for giving us your answer. Yes, I have a different answer in mind. And it is not your answer.

What makes those processes go on? What is in you that is not in someone who is dead?

[Akhenaten]

Suddenly, another minute passed . . .

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

What makes those processes go on? What is in you that is not in someone who is dead?

Ba

[Jack by the hedge]

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

20120702.2045

What makes those processes go on?

MKH416P48U3


Regular input of energy. Constant supply of oxygen to the brain.

Quote:

What is in you that is not in someone who is dead?

Breakfast.

[Ocelot]

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

I will be here even after 07-18.

Surprised you're so confident of that considering that you'e equally confident in these predictions that there will be a nuclear war.

Even if you survive the cull what chance the JREF server will still be here to witness your sick God's evil triumph?

Hey Darat does the JREF server have a hot standby somewhere that isn't a target for global nuclear devastation? Or is it that case that if Seattle turns into a glassy crater we lose the JREF for good? Enquiring minds want to know.

[Akhenaten]

90210

Originally Posted by Jack by the hedge

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

What is in you that is not in someone who is dead?

Breakfast.

Much better than mine.

[rambaldi]

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

and that He must live for eternity including during the creation of this world..

Seven Ancient Wonders

Just curios, how do you actually check that part?

[Akuma Tennou]

Originally Posted by laca

Are you sure? From what google translate tells me, on the first page of that thread he said

Sounds on par with his claims here.

it is indeed, but now it seems we missed the better part:

Quote:

A psychic in 1980 said that we will encounter the extraterrestrial beings in 2012. He said that the earthlings will lose in this encounter. Maybe this will be the ETs who will lead people to Hell.

Originally Posted by laca

Reading it might very well be, but understanding it? I doubt it.

honestly, i think that even if he read forward he couldn't understand it either

[PeaceCrusader]

Originally Posted by AdMan

I listened to a couple of recordings from this woman, supposedly speaking as the holy spirit. She doesn't sound like a man to me, so I have no idea what you are listening to.



This is getting loonier and loonier. Are you aware how insane that sounds?

If your medium isn't a fraud, and I would be willing to bet she is, she is in need of some serious psychological help.

20120702.2105

@AdMan, #920

If the voice that you heard was not a man’s voice, was it a woman’s voice? I think a man may talk like a woman but it is very hard for a woman to speak like a man. As I said, it is almost 30 years that I have associated with this woman and from my observation, the woman and the Holy Spirit are two different persons. Aside from the voice, they have different wisdom and mannerism.

When I asked Him if the Blessed Virgin Mary (BVM) can hear the prayers to her in different parts of the world, He said that she can hear all of them because she is in each person also. I thought, only God is in each person. Therefore, it is not only God who is in a person but also those who are with God.

He said that God is in each of us and also in us is the Devil.

[Jack by the hedge]

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

20120702.2045

I have a different answer in mind. And it is not your answer.

DPA4006TL


Something that's not magic? OK. Would you care to share?

[Foolmewunz]

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

20120702.2025

@AdMan, #924

No, Adman, I did not run away from the Philippine Atheists Forum. As I said to Akuma Tennou, I was in the Philippines in May (2012-05) and when I came back, I have been tied down to this forum. There is more participation here than over there. Later, I will come back there.

Season 3, Episode 95*

So where are you now? Your posting activity coincides with the Asia-Pacific? Australia?

Quote:

You are assuming that the predictions of the Holy Spirit that the 2012 Olympic Games will not be held because of a world war that will start on a Wednesday in the middle of this year from the Philippines will not happen. I assure you, they will happen. We have passed one of the four Wednesdays without the war happening yet. We still have 07-04, 07-11, and 07-18.

I will be here even after 07-18. What will you do if you survive the nuclear holocaust and His prophecies come true? Will you believe in Him?

So, again with the arrogance in His presence? Aren't you believers supposed to humble yourself before Him. Yet you're certain that you've led the good life and that you are going to be in the 1/3 that are saved?

May I recommend *Season 3, Episode 95 of The Twilight Zone. Theodore Bikel does an awesome acting turn in a story called "Four O'Clock". His character keeps records of all sorts of transgressions of people, reporting them and trying to get them thrown out of their jobs. He then decides that he's not making enough impact that way, so what he's going to do is shrink all the evil people in the world to two feet tall - at four o'clock that afternoon. The last scene, as most of the sci fi geeks around here can tell you, has only him being shrunk.

Quote:

Please watch out for Vietnam, one of the six claimants of the disputed resource-rich Spratly Islands.

Well, China moved four patrol boats into the disputed area today. I see nothing about Viet Nam, though.


25 Days and Counting Down...

Dreaded Wednesday (No. 2) Arrives in the Philippines in 28 hours.....

[PeaceCrusader]

Originally Posted by rambaldi

Seven Ancient Wonders

Just curios, how do you actually check that part?

20120702.2230

@rambaldi, #947

How do I actually check that He must live for eternity including during the creation of this world? Who created this world? God. Genesis 1:1 states, “In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.” The only true God made Himself into three, as the Father, as the Son Jesus Christ, and as the Holy Spirit. As a Christian, I believe in the Holy Bible – the Old Testament where God the Father spoke and the New Testament where God the Son Jesus Christ spoke. In Revelation 22:16, Jesus revealed who He is. He is God, to wit: “I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.”

In the New Testament of the Holy Bible, we read about the life of Jesus and what He said. Since Jesus was a human being who lived on earth, He must have a spirit. That spirit is the Holy Spirit who we (plural) talk to, tape recorded. The question is: is He the true Holy Spirit? We scrutinize what He says.

Who can say when Jesus was born (May 23) and died (August 17)? Human beings failed to determine these. The Holy Spirit told these to us. I first heard these in 1983 and which He confirmed in later sessions. I was able to prove them to be true and correct in my studies from 1999 to 2006.

Who can say that the name of the Philippines before the Spaniards named it Las Islas Filipinas was Maio Mait?

In John 8:58 of the King James Version, “Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.”

[PeaceCrusader]

Originally Posted by Jack by the hedge

DPA4006TL


Something that's not magic? OK. Would you care to share?

20120702.2310

@Jack by the hedge, #950

The difference between a living person and a dead person is the spirit which came from the only true God. The spirit of a living person is still in his physical body whereas the spirit of a dead person has already left his physical body.

The physical body is just soil. It is inanimate and does not move. Genesis 2:7 states, “And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground: and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.” So to make this soil that God formed move, He breathed into it, and it became a living soul.

When a person “dies”, this spirit returns to God. Ecclesiastes 12:7 states, “Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.”

[Sabrina]

Knock three times on the ceiling if you want me...
And twice on the pipe if the answer is no.

Well, I just finished watching the US Olympic gymnastic trials last night, and I'm looking forward to seeing those boys and girls compete. Same with Michael Phelps, who has qualified for eight events AGAIN (although I doubt he plans to go for gold in all eight of them; be interesting if that happens though!). I still haven't seen anything definitive that lends any credence to your predictions, PeaceCrusader; no evidence of a two hundred million man strong Chinese army, no indications of major cyber attacks; in short, nada. Your so-called Holy Spirit better step up the agenda; we're less than a month away from the games. Chop chop!

[Mashuna]

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

20120702.2310

@Jack by the hedge, #950

The difference between a living person and a dead person is the spirit which came from the only true God. The spirit of a living person is still in his physical body whereas the spirit of a dead person has already left his physical body.

The physical body is just soil. It is inanimate and does not move. Genesis 2:7 states, “And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground: and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.” So to make this soil that God formed move, He breathed into it, and it became a living soul.

When a person “dies”, this spirit returns to God. Ecclesiastes 12:7 states, “Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.”

One and one and one is three.

I can see where you've made your error here. The bible is just fiction, and there is no spirit as an animating force. Because you think that there is such a thing, it means you are more easily conned by a woman putting on voices claiming to channel these mythical spirits.

eta - I've got tickets for some of the boxing and gymnastics finals, so I'll be enjoying the Olympics first hand.

[carlitos]

Originally Posted by Croydon Bob

2 Girls for Every Guy

And how do you know that there is a "only true God"? Perhaps there are none, or three, or 2,342 true gods?

I got 99 problems, but a God ain't one.

I skipped a few pages, but looks like June 27 was nuke-free. Good luck this Wednesday, everyone.

[Pixel42]

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

it is almost 30 years that I have associated with this woman and from my observation, the woman and the Holy Spirit are two different persons. Aside from the voice, they have different wisdom and mannerism.

This is called acting. Lots of people can do it.

[carlitos]

Originally Posted by Pixel42

This is called acting. Lots of people can do it.

OU812

[AdMan]

Originally Posted by laca

Originally Posted by AdMan

Strike 3--you're out.

Hey, PeaceCrusader, I see that you ran away from the Philippine Atheists Forum after your prediction for WWIII happening in April didn't come true earlier this year.

I sincerely hope that you've been honest with us and won't run away from here too once your holy spirit is once again wrong.

Are you sure? From what google translate tells me, on the first page of that thread he said

Quote:

20120207.0835

@ BuerForcas

I have not the end of the world. In my opinion, in the middle of this year, Between 2012-06-21 and 2012-07-21 inclusive, may occur. Perhaps, the war told us the Holy Spirit will start. This World War III. And nuclear war.

Sounds on par with his claims here.

You are probably right and I may be mistaken. I ran some of the posts through Google translate, but what I was alluding to were some of the posts in English from other members who mentioned there had been a failed prediction for April.

If that was incorrect, I apologize, Peace. I'll buy you a beer after the Olympics.

ETA: Take a look at this post (ignore the personal attacks), which refers to this one:

Originally Posted by Google Translate

I maybe wrong to say mid-year. Maybe it was the arrival of the ETs. The nuclear World War III is probably a month, because According to the Chinese calendar, the best season is spring and the best month was April, the lunar month dates that Between April 5 and May 4 inclusive. The two ruling countries were China and Vietnam (Wikipedia).

[Jack by the hedge]

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

20120702.2310


The difference between a living person and a dead person is the spirit which came from the only true God. The spirit of a living person is still in his physical body whereas the spirit of a dead person has already left his physical body.

ECM77B


Right. Just as I predicted; magic.

Quote:

The physical body is just soil. It is inanimate and does not move. Genesis 2:7 states, “And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground: and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.” So to make this soil that God formed move, He breathed into it, and it became a living soul.

Do dogs have souls too? They're not just soil; they move. So do halibut, slugs, okapi, kangaroos and fleas. Do they all need souls to make them move around?