"Dr. Drew" promoted Glaxo, failed to disclose 275k payment

[Cain]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/dr-dre...225700871.html

I really just want an excuse to bash this self-righteous dickbag. And I'd like to hear informed opinions because I've always thought "Dr. Drew" was a ******* fraud. Granted, I couldn't stand listening or watching him for more than ten minutes (in the Carolla days) because he would INSTANTLY diagnose callers. No caveats that recall. No, "maybe I'm fishing." Just "who touched you?" And if the caller says "no one" then s/he was lying. If s/he insisted, then it was PROOF of a lie and/or "repression."

He made headlines a little while ago when he speculated about some starlet based on "reporting" from a gossip magazine.

A few years ago he went on any and every show that would have him to promote a book about how Americans are obsessed with fame.

Then he also had some program where celebrities would go to rehab under his care, surely to inform people about treatment.

[Puppycow]

A celebrity doctor who uses cold reading techniques to diagnose patients?

I've been lucky enough not to encounter him yet, but he sounds like a real prick.

[autumn1971]

If he even once gave medical advice to a caller, he should immediately have his medical license revoked. Same goes for that Dr. Oz d-bag. The absolute worst thing to happen in the US in the last thirty years was the removal of the ability of drug companies to advertise to the consumer instead of only at professional conferences. Anyone on tv who is an actual real-life doctor should have all of their licenses revoked. Same with "judges". If you want to be a prostitute, I will support that, but if want to prostitute a profession that you obviously have abandoned, I fully support summary execution.

[Tsukasa Buddha]

I used to listen to him and Carolla a while ago. Very entertaining, but looking back a lot of it was confirmation bias BS. Girl has very high and/or cutesy voice? Molested. He also endorsed acupuncture, chiropracty, Van Praagh and Dr. Oz, IIRC. He also tends to be anti-sex worker (You aren't really fine about being a stripper, or you will be upset later!), male biphobic, anti-anal sex, anti-pr0n and a variety of other things. The worst thing is that he tries to push all of this stuff as being under his "expertise". His views on sex addiction or internet porn addiction are probably contentious, but that is something he has legitimate expertise in.

I can't tell if his description of the relationship is admitting to what they plead guilty to was correct and that it just happened to fit with his medical experience, or that he was payed for for work not including the radio bit so talking about his medical experience just gave an illusion of illicitness.

[Caper]

He is a fame whore. But he's pretty good on Carolla. I like the guy. Lots of good advice.

[Careyp74]

Originally Posted by autumn1971

The absolute worst thing to happen in the US in the last thirty years was the removal of the ability of drug companies to advertise to the consumer instead of only at professional conferences.

You mean, like commercials?

Originally Posted by autumn1971

Same with "judges". If you want to be a prostitute, I will support that, but if want to prostitute a profession that you obviously have abandoned, I fully support summary execution.

I actually think that the tv judges may be doing some good in taking a lot of the silly cases off the books. Also, by using actual law to make decisions, and bringing them to light, they might be keeping many disputes from becoming cases in the first place. But don't use what you see on the show as counter-argument. Most of those people are the dumbest of the dumb.

Of course, the opposite could be true. Many cases might be brought about in an attempt to get on the show. Those that do not get chosen could remain in the system. Perhaps a study is in order.

[WildCat]

Originally Posted by autumn1971

The absolute worst thing to happen in the US in the last thirty years was the removal of the ability of drug companies to advertise to the consumer instead of only at professional conferences.

Uh, what? You can't turn on the TV without being bombarded with ads for boner pills, or open up a magazine without encountering full-page ads for this drug or that.

[iknownothing]

The fact that he put Tom Sizemore and Heidi Fleiss together on Celebrity Rehab was so blatantly not in the best interests of either one. No way to justify how it could help someone trying to overcome addiction to be on a realty show with an ex from an ugly past relationship. But definitely in the best interests of Dr Drew - the more they fight, the better for ratings.

[Halfcentaur]

I think the way he villainized buprenorphine treatment for opiate addicts was dangerous and close minded on his celebrity addiction program.

[Cain]

I knew this guy was a goddamn quack. Comedian Bill Burr was a guest on Loveline and totally taken in by Pinsky, slobbering over the high-pitched-voice-means-you-were-molested thing. Is there any evidence backing that up?

I am surprised he hasn't divorced yet.

[elipse]

Originally Posted by Caper

He is a fame whore. But he's pretty good on Carolla. I like the guy. Lots of good advice.

What? No! Never good advice!

Ugh, if there's one person I hate it's ****** Dr. Drew. He makes my blood boil in the bad way.

As others have mentioned, he diagnoses mental disorders and "mental trauma" from molestation over the phone, engages in confirmation bias of the "all the people who do X who I've ever treated have been crazy; therefor all people who do X are crazy!" (and barely gives a pass to homosexuality, btw: some of the things he's said about gay men just barely squeak by on this side of the 1970's), is sex-negative about anything other than your standard gender-normative monogamous relationship model, and has proven through his celebrity rehab show that he cares more about his own fame than he does his patients. Further, he spouts his wisdom on sex and relationships even though his degree is in addiction, making people think his opinion is worth a damn when it's not. He is the scum of the earth.

I think the world would be better overall if he were to die. Sure, maybe his mommy would miss him, but overall? Better world.

[fuelair]

Originally Posted by WildCat

Uh, what? You can't turn on the TV without being bombarded with ads for boner pills, or open up a magazine without encountering full-page ads for this drug or that.

autumn misordered - meant that now pill makers (of the prescription kind can advertise not just to med. professionals now but also to public. Phrasing confusing is all....

[hgc]

I used to like Drew Pinsky. But recently I saw him hosting James Van Praagh on his HLN show. Total scumbags -- both of them.

[Tsukasa Buddha]

Originally Posted by hgc

I used to like Drew Pinsky. But recently I saw him hosting James Van Praagh on his HLN show. Total scumbags -- both of them.

Who touched you?

[Modified]

Originally Posted by Careyp74

I actually think that the tv judges may be doing some good in taking a lot of the silly cases off the books. Also, by using actual law to make decisions, and bringing them to light, they might be keeping many disputes from becoming cases in the first place. But don't use what you see on the show as counter-argument. Most of those people are the dumbest of the dumb.

My brother, who is a college town landlord, goes to small claims court fairly often. His comment about the judge shows is "In a real small claims court, each of these cases would take fifteen seconds." They don't let people ramble on about their life stories when the defendant admits to owing money and has no reasonable excuse.

[JFrankA]

Never listened to him much, but once I heard him say that (and I'm paraphrasing) admitting to your kids that you have drunk alcohol in college gives them permission to do it when they get to that age. It's best to say that it's none of their business, I knew I hated him.

[hgc]

Originally Posted by Tsukasa Buddha

Who touched you?

I was touched by an angel.

[JFrankA]

Originally Posted by hgc

I was touched by an angel.

Show me on this crucifix where the angel touched you.

[Caper]

Originally Posted by elipse

What? No! Never good advice!

Ugh, if there's one person I hate it's ****** Dr. Drew. He makes my blood boil in the bad way.

As others have mentioned, he diagnoses mental disorders and "mental trauma" from molestation over the phone, engages in confirmation bias of the "all the people who do X who I've ever treated have been crazy; therefor all people who do X are crazy!" (and barely gives a pass to homosexuality, btw: some of the things he's said about gay men just barely squeak by on this side of the 1970's), is sex-negative about anything other than your standard gender-normative monogamous relationship model, and has proven through his celebrity rehab show that he cares more about his own fame than he does his patients. Further, he spouts his wisdom on sex and relationships even though his degree is in addiction, making people think his opinion is worth a damn when it's not. He is the scum of the earth.

I think the world would be better overall if he were to die. Sure, maybe his mommy would miss him, but overall? Better world.

He's not antigay.... That's ridiculous.

[hgc]

Originally Posted by JFrankA

Show me on this crucifix where the angel touched you.

Uh... I don't wanna play anymore.

[Polaris]

Originally Posted by Tsukasa Buddha

I used to listen to him and Carolla a while ago. Very entertaining, but looking back a lot of it was confirmation bias BS. Girl has very high and/or cutesy voice? Molested. He also endorsed acupuncture, chiropracty, Van Praagh and Dr. Oz, IIRC. He also tends to be anti-sex worker (You aren't really fine about being a stripper, or you will be upset later!), male biphobic, anti-anal sex, anti-pr0n and a variety of other things. The worst thing is that he tries to push all of this stuff as being under his "expertise". His views on sex addiction or internet porn addiction are probably contentious, but that is something he has legitimate expertise in.

I can't tell if his description of the relationship is admitting to what they plead guilty to was correct and that it just happened to fit with his medical experience, or that he was payed for for work not including the radio bit so talking about his medical experience just gave an illusion of illicitness.

You forgot pro-circumcision and a believer in "marijuana psychosis". I would go so far as to call him anti-male, frankly. He absolutely is much harder on men than women on his shows, and I can't think of a better way to describe someone who says things like, "Men under 26 are monsters on drugs" (meaning testosterone).

I used to enjoy watching Loveline in high school, mainly because I thought he and Carolla had good chemistry as hosts, but something about Pinksy gave me an uneasy feeling that took quite a while to put my finger on.

I think it was hearing him say "I'm sensing chaos" often enough that now I want to cave his head in with a flanged mace.

[elipse]

Originally Posted by Caper

He's not antigay.... That's ridiculous.

No, he never says he's anti-gay, and to my knowledge he isn't, in terms of gay rights, etc, but he has said on loveline that people are often gay because of abuse in childhood. He's said it about lesbians A LOT and even occasionally about gay men. Implying that homosexuality is the result of abuse is exactly the kind of confirmation bias I was talking about, and is pretty much exactly the kind of reasoning used before the 70's to keep homosexuality a mental illness.

I used to be an avid listener for the same reason people here follow Sylvia Browne or whoever--because he was so awful and it was strangely entertaining to be enraged and yell at the radio for an hour.

[elipse]

Originally Posted by Polaris

You forgot pro-circumcision and a believer in "marijuana psychosis". I would go so far as to call him anti-male, frankly. He absolutely is much harder on men than women on his shows, and I can't think of a better way to describe someone who says things like, "Men under 26 are monsters on drugs" (meaning testosterone).

<snip>.

He casts men as slaves to their penises and women as victims of men.


He is harder on men than women, but at least he doesn't suggest false memories to men. At least, not straight ones. Practically every woman on loveline was sexually abused as a child, if you believe him.