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Old 6th July 2012, 09:37 PM   #1
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StopSylvia email: (no subject)

I received the following email at StopSylvia.com, with no subject:

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Hello.

I hope that you are feeling better.

I have read your site a few times. And I was thinking, though I don't know what your illness is, have you thought maybe that your body wasn't well because you have spent most of your time thinking about the negatives about someone? (Sylvia Browne) And have you ever thought that just maybe she might be a real psychic, but perhaps not perfect? (Just like everyone else...) I think there are fake psychics out there...and whether Sylvia is or not...I think somehow she brings more good than bad, because she teaches that God is love and we're here to grow for the better. As well as about the Divine Feminine, which has helped me. If people don't believe in her personal readings then fine....don't pay for them...but there are many other good things that she puts out there. Why don't you try spending your time on something that makes you happy rather than on one soul, who you may never really know is being genuine...and who will do what she wants anyways. People can discern what's right for themselves ultimately...

Anyways...I don't know what you are doing with your life now. And I don't want to act like I know what you should do with your life...but I just felt inspired to write...

-[Name]

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Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts with me.

I beieve you wil find answers to some of your questions in this article on my site:

http://www.stopsylvia.com/articles/whathappened.shtml

My regards to "Mushy",

Robert S. Lancaster
Founder & Webmaster,
www.StopSylvia.com
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Old 7th July 2012, 02:19 AM   #2
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I like this concise answer. Do you think she'll get back to you, after reading it?
It never ceases to amaze me how people still think that bad thoughts can make you physically ill.

Out of curiosity: why the reference to Mushy in your reply?
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Old 7th July 2012, 09:31 AM   #3
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Because I have a strong suspicion that mushy is behind the email. that Mushy wrote it, or got someone else to write it, with the notion, I suppose, that if I osted theemil here, Mushy would then reveal that it wasnot a :real": email, and...somehow that would vindicate Mushy;'s position on my posting StopSylvia emails here.

I could be wrong, but I do not think so, for reasons I will not go into here.
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Old 7th July 2012, 09:33 AM   #4
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Originally Posted by RSLancastr View Post
I received the following email at StopSylvia.com, with no subject:




My reply:
Rob, do you watch Deadwood at all? This e-mail you received reminds me of an incredibly drawn out version of an exchange between two characters.

"You ever think if you didn't talk so ******* much you'd lose weight?"

Essentially ( in case you havn't seen it.) in context, Al Swearingen is annoyed with a character for pointing out things rather consistently, but does not believe that dialogue would help the situation. So instead chooses to incorrectly equate this trait with the person's weight, hoping it will lead to the person in question stopping this behavior. The extent of the rest of the exchange is the fact that his weight and his verbose nature do not effect each other.

This seems like the same thing, the person has no method to prove her claims so suddenly correlates your illness with your website.
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Old 7th July 2012, 09:49 AM   #5
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'hatter, I have never seen the show.

I do see the correlation (the logical fallacy) between the two "theories", though.
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Old 7th July 2012, 10:47 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by RSLancastr View Post
'hatter, I have never seen the show.

I do see the correlation (the logical fallacy) between the two "theories", though.
If you don't mind swearing , you should, great show, in fact , great enough that just having to remember it for this commentary, has spawned me giving it a re-watch.

If not just to see this scene eventually, lol. From an artistic standpoint it was used to illustrate the clash between the emerging civilized people , and the folks that were rather "Old school" at the time.
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Old 7th July 2012, 12:49 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by Femke View Post
I like this concise answer. Do you think she'll get back to you, after reading it?
I did get a reply:

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I wish you speedy and complete healing! As well a life where you follow your true joys.

~[name]
...to which I replied:

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Thanks!

And I *do* follow my true joys, one of which is placing the evidence about Sylvia Browne out where interested parties can examine it.
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Old 7th July 2012, 01:04 PM   #8
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Just a tip: Whenever you get an e-mail without a subject, you can make one up for the title of the forum thread! And, you can still mention there was no subject in the body of the post.
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Old 7th July 2012, 01:14 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by Wowbagger View Post
Just a tip: Whenever you get an e-mail without a subject, you can make one up for the title of the forum thread! And, you can still mention there was no subject in the body of the post.
I have done that once or twice before, usually using a statement from the email as the subject. I deliberately chose not to do so this time, but thanks!
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Old 8th July 2012, 03:02 AM   #10
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Originally Posted by RSLancastr View Post
I did get a reply:

...to which I replied:
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Thanks!

And I *do* follow my true joys, one of which is placing the evidence about Sylvia Browne out where interested parties can examine it.


And I understand why you mentioned Mushy, you are right, it might give him/her some imaginary ammunition if you were not cautious.
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Old 8th July 2012, 08:43 PM   #11
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Yes. giving even imaginary ammunition to one's critics is seldom a good idea.
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Old 9th July 2012, 08:23 AM   #12
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Originally Posted by RSLancastr View Post
...to which I replied:
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And I *do* follow my true joys, one of which is placing the evidence about Sylvia Browne out where interested parties can examine it.
Gardens and fairies in the bottom. .

Why is it that so many believers think there is nothing in the natural world to inspire joy, awe, wonder, etc.?

To use their own patronizing way against them: what sad lives they must have that they need to resort to made up stories to make life bearable and interesting.

A frequent thing I hear from New-Agey types is that rationalists have no room for mystery. I beg to differ. Rationalists are the ones who say that we don't know the answer to many questions. In fact science happens right on the edges of what we don't know. The believers are the ones claiming knowledge that we don't actually have. They have the minds that seem unable to accept that some questions can't be answered (at least right now) and that some things have no explanation (at least for now). It seems very important to them to hide from the mysterious with elaborate constructions.

I remember hearing about a concept in psychology called "schemas"---sort of like ways we have of understanding things so as to pretend we don't live in a world where random things sometimes happen with no real explanation. We hear someone is raped, and we glom onto the fact that she was out in the "wrong" part of town or at the "wrong" hour or wearing the "wrong" clothing--as a way of pretending that rapists don't sometimes attack random victims and one of them could be me and there might not be anything I can do to prevent it. It's a defense mechanism.

I'm not too sure what it defense us against. . . .the joys of the truth? (Though I suppose the tendency to do this explains how or why we tolerate cognitive dissonance.)
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Old 9th July 2012, 07:58 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by RSLancastr View Post
I received the following email at StopSylvia.com, with no subject:

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I have never understood why your health problems could be from negative thoughts and bad energy, but Sylvia's is never looked upon the same way.
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Old 9th July 2012, 08:46 PM   #14
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NZA, I asked the correspondent, in a subsequent email, if she had written to Browne, asking if she had ever onsidered if her being in a wheelchair, or her having a heart attack on stage last year were a result of her negative thoughts (such as "how can I rook more money from vulnerable people?")

The correspondent replid that he/she had not.
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Old 9th July 2012, 09:06 PM   #15
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Sorry, I missed something.

Who or what is "Mushy"?
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Old 9th July 2012, 09:20 PM   #16
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A forumite who objects to me creating threads about emails I receive at StopSylvia.com.

Read this thread for details.
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