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Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Salem, Oregon
Posts: 15,526
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StopSylvia email: (no subject)
I received the following email at StopSylvia.com, with no subject:
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My reply:
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Who is "Kaz?" Read about her at www.StopKaz.com. Curious about Sylvia Browne? Read about her at www.StopSylvia.com. Ever wonder "What's the Harm?" with psychics, alternative medicine, etc? |
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Goddess of the Glowing Sunsets
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: The Netherlands
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I like this concise answer. Do you think she'll get back to you, after reading it?
It never ceases to amaze me how people still think that bad thoughts can make you physically ill. Out of curiosity: why the reference to Mushy in your reply? |
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Epiphanette (a very small epiphany): that kind of tingly, excited feeling of realizing that you were wrong, and that you have to change your world view accordingly. - With thanks to Weak Kitten and Blue Sock Monkey. I am 100% confident all psychics and mediums are frauds. If you agree add this to your sig. |
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Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Salem, Oregon
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Because I have a strong suspicion that mushy is behind the email. that Mushy wrote it, or got someone else to write it, with the notion, I suppose, that if I osted theemil here, Mushy would then reveal that it wasnot a :real": email, and...somehow that would vindicate Mushy;'s position on my posting StopSylvia emails here.
I could be wrong, but I do not think so, for reasons I will not go into here. |
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Who is "Kaz?" Read about her at www.StopKaz.com. Curious about Sylvia Browne? Read about her at www.StopSylvia.com. Ever wonder "What's the Harm?" with psychics, alternative medicine, etc? |
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Philosopher
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 5,743
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Rob, do you watch Deadwood at all? This e-mail you received reminds me of an incredibly drawn out version of an exchange between two characters.
"You ever think if you didn't talk so ******* much you'd lose weight?" Essentially ( in case you havn't seen it.) in context, Al Swearingen is annoyed with a character for pointing out things rather consistently, but does not believe that dialogue would help the situation. So instead chooses to incorrectly equate this trait with the person's weight, hoping it will lead to the person in question stopping this behavior. The extent of the rest of the exchange is the fact that his weight and his verbose nature do not effect each other. This seems like the same thing, the person has no method to prove her claims so suddenly correlates your illness with your website. |
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Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Salem, Oregon
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'hatter, I have never seen the show.
I do see the correlation (the logical fallacy) between the two "theories", though. |
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Who is "Kaz?" Read about her at www.StopKaz.com. Curious about Sylvia Browne? Read about her at www.StopSylvia.com. Ever wonder "What's the Harm?" with psychics, alternative medicine, etc? |
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Philosopher
Join Date: Jun 2009
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If you don't mind swearing , you should, great show, in fact , great enough that just having to remember it for this commentary, has spawned me giving it a re-watch.
If not just to see this scene eventually, lol. From an artistic standpoint it was used to illustrate the clash between the emerging civilized people , and the folks that were rather "Old school" at the time. |
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Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Salem, Oregon
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Who is "Kaz?" Read about her at www.StopKaz.com. Curious about Sylvia Browne? Read about her at www.StopSylvia.com. Ever wonder "What's the Harm?" with psychics, alternative medicine, etc? |
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The Infinitely Prolonged
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Westchester County, NY (when not in space)
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Just a tip: Whenever you get an e-mail without a subject, you can make one up for the title of the forum thread! And, you can still mention there was no subject in the body of the post.
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WARNING: Phrases in this post may sound meaner than they were intended to be. SkeptiCamp NYC: http://www.skepticampnyc.org/ An open conference on science and skepticism, where you could be a presenter! By the way, my first name is NOT Bowerick!!!! |
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Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Salem, Oregon
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Who is "Kaz?" Read about her at www.StopKaz.com. Curious about Sylvia Browne? Read about her at www.StopSylvia.com. Ever wonder "What's the Harm?" with psychics, alternative medicine, etc? |
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Goddess of the Glowing Sunsets
Join Date: Aug 2008
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Epiphanette (a very small epiphany): that kind of tingly, excited feeling of realizing that you were wrong, and that you have to change your world view accordingly. - With thanks to Weak Kitten and Blue Sock Monkey. I am 100% confident all psychics and mediums are frauds. If you agree add this to your sig. |
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Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Salem, Oregon
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Yes. giving even imaginary ammunition to one's critics is seldom a good idea.
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Who is "Kaz?" Read about her at www.StopKaz.com. Curious about Sylvia Browne? Read about her at www.StopSylvia.com. Ever wonder "What's the Harm?" with psychics, alternative medicine, etc? |
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Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: St. Louis
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Gardens and fairies in the bottom. .
Why is it that so many believers think there is nothing in the natural world to inspire joy, awe, wonder, etc.? To use their own patronizing way against them: what sad lives they must have that they need to resort to made up stories to make life bearable and interesting. A frequent thing I hear from New-Agey types is that rationalists have no room for mystery. I beg to differ. Rationalists are the ones who say that we don't know the answer to many questions. In fact science happens right on the edges of what we don't know. The believers are the ones claiming knowledge that we don't actually have. They have the minds that seem unable to accept that some questions can't be answered (at least right now) and that some things have no explanation (at least for now). It seems very important to them to hide from the mysterious with elaborate constructions. I remember hearing about a concept in psychology called "schemas"---sort of like ways we have of understanding things so as to pretend we don't live in a world where random things sometimes happen with no real explanation. We hear someone is raped, and we glom onto the fact that she was out in the "wrong" part of town or at the "wrong" hour or wearing the "wrong" clothing--as a way of pretending that rapists don't sometimes attack random victims and one of them could be me and there might not be anything I can do to prevent it. It's a defense mechanism. I'm not too sure what it defense us against. . . .the joys of the truth? (Though I suppose the tendency to do this explains how or why we tolerate cognitive dissonance.) |
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Join Date: Apr 2002
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Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Salem, Oregon
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NZA, I asked the correspondent, in a subsequent email, if she had written to Browne, asking if she had ever onsidered if her being in a wheelchair, or her having a heart attack on stage last year were a result of her negative thoughts (such as "how can I rook more money from vulnerable people?")
The correspondent replid that he/she had not. |
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Who is "Kaz?" Read about her at www.StopKaz.com. Curious about Sylvia Browne? Read about her at www.StopSylvia.com. Ever wonder "What's the Harm?" with psychics, alternative medicine, etc? |
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Illuminator
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Perth, Western Australia
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Sorry, I missed something.
Who or what is "Mushy"? |
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no, i don't think i need to read naturalistic literature more accurately, to be convinced its true. - Gibhor |
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Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Salem, Oregon
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A forumite who objects to me creating threads about emails I receive at StopSylvia.com.
Read this thread for details. |
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