Bigfoot DNA - Page 43

I am Bigfoot · 9th July 2012, 06:30 AM

Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch

I think a ninja would be a good way to describe them. How can we fool a human whose intelligence is built for survival without the use of tools? Of course one might make a mistake and somehow be seen, but I wouldn't count on it. When hunters want to get within shooting range of animals they usually either look for one, try to fool one or wait for one to show up. Will any of these tactics work with Bigfoot?

So wait.

Hold up there.

You question whether looking for one works while you believe that the PGF shows an actual Magic Woods Monkey?

You do know P and G actively went out looking for Magic Woods Monkeys right? And according to you they found one. So by your own reasoning this entire post is moot.
Also, ALL creatures intelligence developed for survival without the use of tools. Including all humans. We use tools but our minds didn't evolve/devolve to need tools or else all of humanity is doomed.

Do you think about the things you say or do you just talk and believe that everything works out in the end no matter what?

Drewbot · 9th July 2012, 07:02 AM

Originally Posted by I am Bigfoot

Also, ALL creatures intelligence developed for survival without the use of tools. Including all humans. We use tools but our minds didn't evolve/devolve to need tools or else all of humanity is doomed.

I was with you up until this.
You don't think the humans with the capacity to use tools were able to dominate any rival who didn't have the capacity to use tools? Isn't this a perfect example of evolution? The use of tools was probably the single greatest evolutionary hurdle that we made.

I am Bigfoot · 9th July 2012, 07:35 AM

Originally Posted by Drewbot

I was with you up until this.
You don't think the humans with the capacity to use tools were able to dominate any rival who didn't have the capacity to use tools? Isn't this a perfect example of evolution? The use of tools was probably the single greatest evolutionary hurdle that we made.

I think you might be taking my words to mean something greater than what I had intended. Probably a misstatement on my part. What I meant basically was that people didn't evolve with tools in hand. OS seems to think not using tools is some sort of advanced evolutionary trait of bigfoot with his whole "you can't fool a human that doesn't need tools" statement. I was just trying to point out that people survived before the development of tools; that tool-less survival wasn't something fancy bigfoot had. That's why I specifically said "need tools" in order to survive (though they certainly do increase the odds). Maybe I mangled my sentiment though, but it is more or less the default of all creatures until they develop and use tools. That doesn't make them more wily. I would actually argue it makes them less.

I agree that the capacity for tool use is one of the greatest traits one could ever hope to have.

I would like to point out however, that bigfoot uses tools according to the footers. Nests are tools. Using sticks to communicate is tool use. Throwing rocks as weapons is tool use.

Vortigern99 · 9th July 2012, 10:51 AM

If a figboot bleever accepts the results from hair and DNA analysis that (supposedly) show "unknown primate", how can figboots be human?

calcmandan · 9th July 2012, 11:07 AM

Bigfoot is cool. If there was a comic book involving bigfoot as a character, I'd read it.

Bigfoot is cool in the way batman is cool. Both are fictional, but cool.

The simple idea that a bipedal ape is lurking around in the woods, witnessing humanity from afar, and somehow only showing their presence to a select few is a cool idea. It's great campfire story fodder for the youngsters.

It's an easy construct really. All you need is a wild man. The environment (the woods) and its' mystique is already built in.

I can only imagine the mythos coming from native american traditions regarding bigfoot originated as simple campfire stories to engage the childrens' imaginations.

The whole bigfoot thing is fun to follow. It'll be interesting to see how the story of it evolves over the next twenty years. It certainly has changed since my first exposure to it as a child in the early 80s when I saw an episode of 'In Search Of.' It would be an interesting cultural anthropology study.

CORed · 9th July 2012, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by calcmandan

Bigfoot is cool. If there was a comic book involving bigfoot as a character, I'd read it.

Bigfoot is cool in the way batman is cool. Both are fictional, but cool.

The simple idea that a bipedal ape is lurking around in the woods, witnessing humanity from afar, and somehow only showing their presence to a select few is a cool idea. It's great campfire story fodder for the youngsters.

It's an easy construct really. All you need is a wild man. The environment (the woods) and its' mystique is already built in.

I can only imagine the mythos coming from native american traditions regarding bigfoot originated as simple campfire stories to engage the childrens' imaginations.

The whole bigfoot thing is fun to follow. It'll be interesting to see how the story of it evolves over the next twenty years. It certainly has changed since my first exposure to it as a child in the early 80s when I saw an episode of 'In Search Of.' It would be an interesting cultural anthropology study.

Jackalopes, unicorns and dragons are cool, too, but there are very few, if any people, foolish enough to believe that the stories about them describe real animals. For some reason the same is not tro of bigfoot. Of course, in the case of jackalopes, it is acceptable to try to convince gullible tourists that they are real. After all, there's the head of one hanging right on that wall over there (if you're in Wyoming).

OntarioSquatch · 9th July 2012, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by I am Bigfoot

So wait.

Hold up there.

You question whether looking for one works while you believe that the PGF shows an actual Magic Woods Monkey?

You do know P and G actively went out looking for Magic Woods Monkeys right? And according to you they found one. So by your own reasoning this entire post is moot.
Also, ALL creatures intelligence developed for survival without the use of tools. Including all humans. We use tools but our minds didn't evolve/devolve to need tools or else all of humanity is doomed.

Do you think about the things you say or do you just talk and believe that everything works out in the end no matter what?

I'm not saying looking for them would never work. Animals make mistakes and i'm sure Bigfoot does too

I think maybe we have the wrong idea about what Bigfoot is. If they were just bipedal Gorillas, we probably would have discovered them a very long time ago.

River · 9th July 2012, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch

I'm not saying looking for them would never work. Animals make mistakes and i'm sure Bigfoot does too

I think maybe we have the wrong idea about what Bigfoot is. If they were ~~just bipedal Gorillas~~ real, we probably would have discovered them a very long time ago.

fixed.

calcmandan · 9th July 2012, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by CORed

Jackalopes, unicorns and dragons are cool, too, but there are very few, if any people, foolish enough to believe that the stories about them describe real animals. For some reason the same is not tro of bigfoot. Of course, in the case of jackalopes, it is acceptable to try to convince gullible tourists that they are real. After all, there's the head of one hanging right on that wall over there (if you're in Wyoming).

If there were people out there attempting to capitolize on an existence of dragons, I'd probably dump bigfoot in a cold minute.

Dragons are way cooler, but harder to fit into a suit shaped like a dragon eh?

LTC8K6 · 9th July 2012, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch

I'm not saying looking for them would never work. Animals make mistakes and i'm sure Bigfoot does too

I think maybe we have the wrong idea about what Bigfoot is. If they were just bipedal Gorillas, we probably would have discovered them a very long time ago.

Descriptions of bigfoot among bigfooters vary widely.

As do the footprints.

You can't hang that on the sceptics.

Vortigern99 · 9th July 2012, 03:12 PM

"Large amounts of belief that it does exist makes it a fact." - Random Bigfoot Believer

I am Bigfoot · 9th July 2012, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by calcmandan

If there were people out there attempting to capitolize on an existence of dragons, I'd probably dump bigfoot in a cold minute.

Dragons are way cooler, but harder to fit into a suit shaped like a dragon eh?

You obviously don't keep up with creationism. Many creationists claim dragons are dinosaurs and that those dinosaurs still exist in remote areas. There's the infamous and recent news story about the Louisiana schools teaching that the Loch Ness monster disproves evolution.

Also, there are comics that have bigfoot in them.
http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&keyw...Bigfoot&page=1

Check out the 1 star reviews for "in me own words." There are a couple disgruntled figboot researchers expecting the book to be uh...possibly actually written by figgy.

Quote:

If a figboot bleever accepts the results from hair and DNA analysis that (supposedly) show "unknown primate", how can figboots be human?

Because figboot believers accept any and all findings that aren't "man in a suit."

calcmandan · 9th July 2012, 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by I am Bigfoot

You obviously don't keep up with creationism./snip

Too much woo, way too much. It's possibly one of the biggest scams ever. There's nothing fun about that.

Bigfoot is, for all intents and purposes, harmless. And so, I have fun with it. The claims are just preposterous enough to make it so, in my opinion.

Dragonspeak via creationism... Dragon believers are one thing, but tie it to the bible and my interest sinks to the floor.

Thanks for pointing my way to the comic book, but I was just making a point. So don't take it literally..

I am Bigfoot · 9th July 2012, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by calcmandan

Too much woo, way too much. It's possibly one of the biggest scams ever. There's nothing fun about that.

Bigfoot is, for all intents and purposes, harmless. And so, I have fun with it. The claims are just preposterous enough to make it so, in my opinion.

Dragonspeak via creationism... Dragon believers are one thing, but tie it to the bible and my interest sinks to the floor.

Thanks for pointing my way to the comic book, but I was just making a point. So don't take it literally..

Okie doke. I keep up with creationism exactly because it isn't funny. It's an actual danger.

And I'm sure there are other dragon believers, I just don't recall running into any older than age 6.

calcmandan · 9th July 2012, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by I am Bigfoot

Okie doke. I keep up with creationism exactly because it isn't funny. It's an actual danger.

Mh hmm damn skippy

Originally Posted by I am Bigfoot

And I'm sure there are other dragon believers, I just don't recall running into any older than age 6.

LTC8K6 · 12th July 2012, 04:37 AM

http://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2...-july-11-2012/

Lindsay claims that Ketchum claims the paper has passed peer review...

rockinkt · 12th July 2012, 05:39 AM

^ I think he must not understand and thinks that peer is someone who pees and what was actually said was "piss on it!".

AlaskaBushPilot · 12th July 2012, 10:58 AM

Quote:

This video was sent in to Dr. Jeff Meldrum, and he thought it was interesting enough that he passed it along to FB/FB for analysis.

That's a sure sign of a huge bombshell. Merldumb passes on the uninteresting ones to the Smithsonian Institute or Harvard University Museum.

Volsquatch · 12th July 2012, 08:16 PM

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Night Walker · 16th July 2012, 03:07 AM

Oxford-Lausanne Collateral Hominid Project - does anyone have any updates?

The sample submission phase (May – September 2012) is coming to a close shortly. Does anyone know if samples have been sent/received?

OntarioSquatch · 16th July 2012, 04:15 PM

^I know some people have been sending in samples. I don't know which ones, but hopefully the right ones. I think they're also looking at cases of human/sasquatch hybridization.

Resume · 16th July 2012, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch

^I know some people have been sending in samples. I don't know which ones, but hopefully the right ones. I think they're also looking at cases of human/sasquatch hybridization.

If as you have posited in the past, Footie is a feral human, how do you imagine dna samples will be helpful identifying hybridization?

Or or they not feral again?

Or is there a specimen?

What?

OntarioSquatch · 16th July 2012, 04:44 PM

Well, if scientists can identify non-African Americans are about 4% neanderthal, then a man like Bryan Sykes should have no problem figuring out hybridization.

Resume · 16th July 2012, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch

Well, if scientists can identify non-African Americans are about 4% neanderthal, then a man like Bryan Sykes should have no problem figuring out hybridization.

What does this have to do with my question? Hybridization with what?

More precisely, hybridization between what?

Wolrab · 16th July 2012, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch

Well, if scientists can identify non-African Americans are about 4% neanderthal, then a man like Bryan Sykes should have no problem figuring out hybridization.

If I am not mistaken, scientists have neanderthal DNA from neanderthal bones. At present, nobody has any bigfoot DNA to compare against humans.

ETA: Yup. http://www.academia.dk/BiologiskAntr...ion_NP2007.pdf

Voodoosix · 16th July 2012, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch

human/sasquatch hybridization.

man, were going to get some killer porn if sasquatches are ever found

I am Bigfoot · 16th July 2012, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by Voodoosix

man, were going to get some killer porn if sasquatches are ever found

It'd be like a less hairy Ron Jeremy

OntarioSquatch · 16th July 2012, 05:36 PM

^lol. For sure

Bigfoot is supposedly one of the extinct hominids that has survived somehow. It could be neanderthal, I don't know. Dr. Ketchum knows. It will be interesting to see which one it is that grew 8 feet tall and remained hairy.

Voodoosix · 16th July 2012, 05:51 PM

itll answer a lot of big questions...

like-
how did they develop glowing red eyes?
with a mid tarsal break (missing leverage) how are they able to run so fast on 2 legs?
do they do it doggy style?
do they have back problems?
are there midget bigfootses?
will they dominate the UFC, NFL and NBA (since theyre humans now), and will the Olympic committee allow countries to field bigfootses against countries that dont have bigfootses?
will they be allowed to serve in the military?
do they support gay marriage? and will there be Squatch's night at the local bars (gay or straight).

many important questions need to be put to rest.

Drewbot · 16th July 2012, 06:21 PM

OS, do you not know what a hybrid is? A human can't hybridize with a human, that is called just breeding. If BF is a feral human, it can't hybridize with a human. Now you have to tell us all where a feral human got a mid tarsal break, lack of tool use (which would have been a very important attribute to a human living out in the elements), huge size, and open gorilla like nostrils.

GT/CS · 16th July 2012, 06:33 PM

Isn't there also a sagittal crest involved?

OntarioSquatch · 16th July 2012, 06:35 PM

@ VoodoosixYour right, it wouldn't be hybridization, it would be interbreeding, but they won't know that until they analyse it like Dr. Ketchum.

I think their speed is mostly a result of their phenomenal strength and stride length. They are known to run on their hands and feet as well, which isn't easy for normal humans to do.

GT/CS · 16th July 2012, 06:38 PM

Yeah, right.
Can you imagine Patty in 4x4 mode?

You just keep stepping in it and don't seem to care.
Do you know what kind of internet personality behaves that way?

Voodoosix · 16th July 2012, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch

I think their speed is mostly a result of their phenomenal strength and stride length.

relying on brute strength (no matter how phenomenal) for propulsion is inefficient and unadvantageous, we are better equipped to walk upright than this thing described as a sasquatch... but were supposed to believe at the same time that these things are fuzzy forest ninjas who move with cat like stealth & agility and have sustained their population for eons.

there are so many contradictions in the descriptions and sighting reports that there is no way people are reporting the same type of thing. look at "Patty", were supposed to believe that's a skwatch but now were told theyre feral humans... the thing in the video is not a feral human.

we cant even come up with a coherent description of what is even being discussed if we take what is being offered as evidence into consideration.

I am Bigfoot · 16th July 2012, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch

I think their speed is mostly a result of their phenomenal strength and stride length. They are known to run on their hands and feet as well, which isn't easy for normal humans to do.

Watch the Olympics.
The fastest runners in the world aren't covered in bulky muscles. People covered in bulky muscles generally don't run super fast.

I can't think of any fast moving animal that is covered in bulky muscle.

Also, where did the superhuman strength come from in the first place? Does bigfoot spend it's days bench pressing the children it kidnaps?

Jodie · 16th July 2012, 07:16 PM

That is one of the things that bothered me all along when I first became interested in bigfoot, the difference in descriptions. What people don't realize is that when you describe something with prognathism to the extent that these creatures look more like baboons versus a creature with a face like ours you are talking about morphology that dictates a different kind of brain structure. It can't be the same creature.

GT/CS · 16th July 2012, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by Drewbot

OS, do you not know what a hybrid is? A human can't hybridize with a human, that is called just breeding. If BF is a feral human, it can't hybridize with a human. Now you have to tell us all where a feral human got a mid tarsal break, lack of tool use (which would have been a very important attribute to a human living out in the elements), huge size, and open gorilla like nostrils.

Yeah, the footers who believe bigfoot is a human are digging themselves quite a deep hole, and they have no clue they are doing so.

Meldrum is the only one who sees how big the hole is becoming so he's trying to fill it in as fast as Ketchum digs it.

I am Bigfoot · 16th July 2012, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by GT/CS

Yeah, the footers who believe bigfoot is a human are digging themselves quite a deep hole, and they have no clue they are doing so.

Meldrum is the only one who sees how big the hole is becoming so he's trying to fill it in as fast as Ketchum digs it.

It's not surprising. Get a bunch of people that don't know anything about any topic talking and you get something as stupid as people looking at bigfoot claims and determining that they perfectly describe Neanderthals. Or Denisovans. Or whatever Lucy was. They're all the same, right?

OntarioSquatch · 16th July 2012, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by I am Bigfoot

Watch the Olympics.
The fastest runners in the world aren't covered in bulky muscles.

http://i48.tinypic.com/54j4t0.jpg (Asafa Powell)
http://i48.tinypic.com/195n5v.jpg (Tyson Gay)
http://i47.tinypic.com/2llk31v.jpg (Asafa & Usain Bolt)

^Those are the three fastest men on the planet.

GT/CS · 16th July 2012, 08:02 PM

And they don't look like Patty do they?

9th July 2012, 07:02 AM	#1682
Drewbot Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,870	Originally Posted by I am Bigfoot Also, ALL creatures intelligence developed for survival without the use of tools. Including all humans. We use tools but our minds didn't evolve/devolve to need tools or else all of humanity is doomed. I was with you up until this. You don't think the humans with the capacity to use tools were able to dominate any rival who didn't have the capacity to use tools? Isn't this a perfect example of evolution? The use of tools was probably the single greatest evolutionary hurdle that we made.
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9th July 2012, 07:35 AM	#1683
I am Bigfoot Critical Thinker Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 307	Originally Posted by Drewbot I was with you up until this. You don't think the humans with the capacity to use tools were able to dominate any rival who didn't have the capacity to use tools? Isn't this a perfect example of evolution? The use of tools was probably the single greatest evolutionary hurdle that we made. I think you might be taking my words to mean something greater than what I had intended. Probably a misstatement on my part. What I meant basically was that people didn't evolve with tools in hand. OS seems to think not using tools is some sort of advanced evolutionary trait of bigfoot with his whole "you can't fool a human that doesn't need tools" statement. I was just trying to point out that people survived before the development of tools; that tool-less survival wasn't something fancy bigfoot had. That's why I specifically said "need tools" in order to survive (though they certainly do increase the odds). Maybe I mangled my sentiment though, but it is more or less the default of all creatures until they develop and use tools. That doesn't make them more wily. I would actually argue it makes them less. I agree that the capacity for tool use is one of the greatest traits one could ever hope to have. I would like to point out however, that bigfoot uses tools according to the footers. Nests are tools. Using sticks to communicate is tool use. Throwing rocks as weapons is tool use.
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9th July 2012, 10:51 AM	#1684
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9th July 2012, 11:07 AM	#1685
calcmandan Scholar Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 69	Bigfoot is cool. If there was a comic book involving bigfoot as a character, I'd read it. Bigfoot is cool in the way batman is cool. Both are fictional, but cool. The simple idea that a bipedal ape is lurking around in the woods, witnessing humanity from afar, and somehow only showing their presence to a select few is a cool idea. It's great campfire story fodder for the youngsters. It's an easy construct really. All you need is a wild man. The environment (the woods) and its' mystique is already built in. I can only imagine the mythos coming from native american traditions regarding bigfoot originated as simple campfire stories to engage the childrens' imaginations. The whole bigfoot thing is fun to follow. It'll be interesting to see how the story of it evolves over the next twenty years. It certainly has changed since my first exposure to it as a child in the early 80s when I saw an episode of 'In Search Of.' It would be an interesting cultural anthropology study.
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9th July 2012, 11:37 AM	#1686
CORed Illuminator Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 4,345	Originally Posted by calcmandan Bigfoot is cool. If there was a comic book involving bigfoot as a character, I'd read it. Bigfoot is cool in the way batman is cool. Both are fictional, but cool. The simple idea that a bipedal ape is lurking around in the woods, witnessing humanity from afar, and somehow only showing their presence to a select few is a cool idea. It's great campfire story fodder for the youngsters. It's an easy construct really. All you need is a wild man. The environment (the woods) and its' mystique is already built in. I can only imagine the mythos coming from native american traditions regarding bigfoot originated as simple campfire stories to engage the childrens' imaginations. The whole bigfoot thing is fun to follow. It'll be interesting to see how the story of it evolves over the next twenty years. It certainly has changed since my first exposure to it as a child in the early 80s when I saw an episode of 'In Search Of.' It would be an interesting cultural anthropology study. Jackalopes, unicorns and dragons are cool, too, but there are very few, if any people, foolish enough to believe that the stories about them describe real animals. For some reason the same is not tro of bigfoot. Of course, in the case of jackalopes, it is acceptable to try to convince gullible tourists that they are real. After all, there's the head of one hanging right on that wall over there (if you're in Wyoming).
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9th July 2012, 06:30 AM	#1681
I am Bigfoot Critical Thinker Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 307	Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch I think a ninja would be a good way to describe them. How can we fool a human whose intelligence is built for survival without the use of tools? Of course one might make a mistake and somehow be seen, but I wouldn't count on it. When hunters want to get within shooting range of animals they usually either look for one, try to fool one or wait for one to show up. Will any of these tactics work with Bigfoot? So wait. Hold up there. You question whether looking for one works while you believe that the PGF shows an actual Magic Woods Monkey? You do know P and G actively went out looking for Magic Woods Monkeys right? And according to you they found one. So by your own reasoning this entire post is moot. Also, ALL creatures intelligence developed for survival without the use of tools. Including all humans. We use tools but our minds didn't evolve/devolve to need tools or else all of humanity is doomed. Do you think about the things you say or do you just talk and believe that everything works out in the end no matter what?

9th July 2012, 12:21 PM	#1687
OntarioSquatch Critical Thinker Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 499	Originally Posted by I am Bigfoot So wait. Hold up there. You question whether looking for one works while you believe that the PGF shows an actual Magic Woods Monkey? You do know P and G actively went out looking for Magic Woods Monkeys right? And according to you they found one. So by your own reasoning this entire post is moot. Also, ALL creatures intelligence developed for survival without the use of tools. Including all humans. We use tools but our minds didn't evolve/devolve to need tools or else all of humanity is doomed. Do you think about the things you say or do you just talk and believe that everything works out in the end no matter what? I'm not saying looking for them would never work. Animals make mistakes and i'm sure Bigfoot does too I think maybe we have the wrong idea about what Bigfoot is. If they were just bipedal Gorillas, we probably would have discovered them a very long time ago.

9th July 2012, 12:28 PM	#1688
River Master Poster Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,744	Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch I'm not saying looking for them would never work. Animals make mistakes and i'm sure Bigfoot does too I think maybe we have the wrong idea about what Bigfoot is. If they were ~~just bipedal Gorillas~~ real, we probably would have discovered them a very long time ago. fixed.
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9th July 2012, 01:22 PM	#1689
calcmandan Scholar Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 69	Originally Posted by CORed Jackalopes, unicorns and dragons are cool, too, but there are very few, if any people, foolish enough to believe that the stories about them describe real animals. For some reason the same is not tro of bigfoot. Of course, in the case of jackalopes, it is acceptable to try to convince gullible tourists that they are real. After all, there's the head of one hanging right on that wall over there (if you're in Wyoming). If there were people out there attempting to capitolize on an existence of dragons, I'd probably dump bigfoot in a cold minute. Dragons are way cooler, but harder to fit into a suit shaped like a dragon eh?
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9th July 2012, 02:05 PM	#1690
LTC8K6 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Directly under a deadly chemtrail Posts: 12,749	Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch I'm not saying looking for them would never work. Animals make mistakes and i'm sure Bigfoot does too I think maybe we have the wrong idea about what Bigfoot is. If they were just bipedal Gorillas, we probably would have discovered them a very long time ago. Descriptions of bigfoot among bigfooters vary widely. As do the footprints. You can't hang that on the sceptics.
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9th July 2012, 03:12 PM	#1691
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9th July 2012, 03:49 PM	#1692
I am Bigfoot Critical Thinker Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 307	Originally Posted by calcmandan If there were people out there attempting to capitolize on an existence of dragons, I'd probably dump bigfoot in a cold minute. Dragons are way cooler, but harder to fit into a suit shaped like a dragon eh? You obviously don't keep up with creationism. Many creationists claim dragons are dinosaurs and that those dinosaurs still exist in remote areas. There's the infamous and recent news story about the Louisiana schools teaching that the Loch Ness monster disproves evolution. Also, there are comics that have bigfoot in them. http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&keyw...Bigfoot&page=1 Check out the 1 star reviews for "in me own words." There are a couple disgruntled figboot researchers expecting the book to be uh...possibly actually written by figgy. Quote: If a figboot bleever accepts the results from hair and DNA analysis that (supposedly) show "unknown primate", how can figboots be human? Because figboot believers accept any and all findings that aren't "man in a suit."
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9th July 2012, 08:23 PM	#1693
calcmandan Scholar Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 69	Originally Posted by I am Bigfoot You obviously don't keep up with creationism./snip Too much woo, way too much. It's possibly one of the biggest scams ever. There's nothing fun about that. Bigfoot is, for all intents and purposes, harmless. And so, I have fun with it. The claims are just preposterous enough to make it so, in my opinion. Dragonspeak via creationism... Dragon believers are one thing, but tie it to the bible and my interest sinks to the floor. Thanks for pointing my way to the comic book, but I was just making a point. So don't take it literally..
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9th July 2012, 08:32 PM	#1694
I am Bigfoot Critical Thinker Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 307	Originally Posted by calcmandan Too much woo, way too much. It's possibly one of the biggest scams ever. There's nothing fun about that. Bigfoot is, for all intents and purposes, harmless. And so, I have fun with it. The claims are just preposterous enough to make it so, in my opinion. Dragonspeak via creationism... Dragon believers are one thing, but tie it to the bible and my interest sinks to the floor. Thanks for pointing my way to the comic book, but I was just making a point. So don't take it literally.. Okie doke. I keep up with creationism exactly because it isn't funny. It's an actual danger. And I'm sure there are other dragon believers, I just don't recall running into any older than age 6.

9th July 2012, 08:42 PM	#1695
calcmandan Scholar Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 69	Originally Posted by I am Bigfoot Okie doke. I keep up with creationism exactly because it isn't funny. It's an actual danger. Mh hmm damn skippy Originally Posted by I am Bigfoot And I'm sure there are other dragon believers, I just don't recall running into any older than age 6.
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12th July 2012, 04:37 AM	#1696
LTC8K6 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Directly under a deadly chemtrail Posts: 12,749	http://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2...-july-11-2012/ Lindsay claims that Ketchum claims the paper has passed peer review...
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12th July 2012, 05:39 AM	#1697
rockinkt Muse Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 647	^ I think he must not understand and thinks that peer is someone who pees and what was actually said was "piss on it!".
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12th July 2012, 10:58 AM	#1698
AlaskaBushPilot Graduate Poster Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,609	Quote: This video was sent in to Dr. Jeff Meldrum, and he thought it was interesting enough that he passed it along to FB/FB for analysis. That's a sure sign of a huge bombshell. Merldumb passes on the uninteresting ones to the Smithsonian Institute or Harvard University Museum.

12th July 2012, 08:16 PM	#1699
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16th July 2012, 03:07 AM	#1700
Night Walker Scholar Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: "Terror" Australis Posts: 119	Oxford-Lausanne Collateral Hominid Project - does anyone have any updates? The sample submission phase (May – September 2012) is coming to a close shortly. Does anyone know if samples have been sent/received?

16th July 2012, 04:15 PM	#1701
OntarioSquatch Critical Thinker Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 499	^I know some people have been sending in samples. I don't know which ones, but hopefully the right ones. I think they're also looking at cases of human/sasquatch hybridization.

16th July 2012, 04:40 PM	#1702
Resume Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 8,132	Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch ^I know some people have been sending in samples. I don't know which ones, but hopefully the right ones. I think they're also looking at cases of human/sasquatch hybridization. If as you have posited in the past, Footie is a feral human, how do you imagine dna samples will be helpful identifying hybridization? Or or they not feral again? Or is there a specimen? What?
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16th July 2012, 04:44 PM	#1703
OntarioSquatch Critical Thinker Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 499	Well, if scientists can identify non-African Americans are about 4% neanderthal, then a man like Bryan Sykes should have no problem figuring out hybridization.

16th July 2012, 04:56 PM	#1704
Resume Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 8,132	Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch Well, if scientists can identify non-African Americans are about 4% neanderthal, then a man like Bryan Sykes should have no problem figuring out hybridization. What does this have to do with my question? Hybridization with what? More precisely, hybridization between what?
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16th July 2012, 05:09 PM	#1705
Wolrab Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Beautiful Finger Lakes Posts: 1,715	Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch Well, if scientists can identify non-African Americans are about 4% neanderthal, then a man like Bryan Sykes should have no problem figuring out hybridization. If I am not mistaken, scientists have neanderthal DNA from neanderthal bones. At present, nobody has any bigfoot DNA to compare against humans. ETA: Yup. http://www.academia.dk/BiologiskAntr...ion_NP2007.pdf
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16th July 2012, 05:23 PM	#1706
Voodoosix Thinker Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 152	Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch human/sasquatch hybridization. man, were going to get some killer porn if sasquatches are ever found
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16th July 2012, 05:32 PM	#1707
I am Bigfoot Critical Thinker Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 307	Originally Posted by Voodoosix man, were going to get some killer porn if sasquatches are ever found It'd be like a less hairy Ron Jeremy

16th July 2012, 05:36 PM	#1708
OntarioSquatch Critical Thinker Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 499	^lol. For sure Bigfoot is supposedly one of the extinct hominids that has survived somehow. It could be neanderthal, I don't know. Dr. Ketchum knows. It will be interesting to see which one it is that grew 8 feet tall and remained hairy.

16th July 2012, 05:51 PM	#1709
Voodoosix Thinker Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 152	itll answer a lot of big questions... like- how did they develop glowing red eyes? with a mid tarsal break (missing leverage) how are they able to run so fast on 2 legs? do they do it doggy style? do they have back problems? are there midget bigfootses? will they dominate the UFC, NFL and NBA (since theyre humans now), and will the Olympic committee allow countries to field bigfootses against countries that dont have bigfootses? will they be allowed to serve in the military? do they support gay marriage? and will there be Squatch's night at the local bars (gay or straight). many important questions need to be put to rest.
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16th July 2012, 06:21 PM	#1710
Drewbot Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,870	OS, do you not know what a hybrid is? A human can't hybridize with a human, that is called just breeding. If BF is a feral human, it can't hybridize with a human. Now you have to tell us all where a feral human got a mid tarsal break, lack of tool use (which would have been a very important attribute to a human living out in the elements), huge size, and open gorilla like nostrils.
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16th July 2012, 06:33 PM	#1711
GT/CS Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,626	Isn't there also a sagittal crest involved?
GT/CS Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,626	__________________ SweatyYeti or Bill Munns would be my vote for looking at this - BFSleuth @ BFF I've got plenty of common sense! I just choose to ignore it. - Calvin; October 15, 1986

16th July 2012, 06:35 PM	#1712
OntarioSquatch Critical Thinker Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 499	@ VoodoosixYour right, it wouldn't be hybridization, it would be interbreeding, but they won't know that until they analyse it like Dr. Ketchum. I think their speed is mostly a result of their phenomenal strength and stride length. They are known to run on their hands and feet as well, which isn't easy for normal humans to do.

16th July 2012, 06:38 PM	#1713
GT/CS Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,626	Yeah, right. Can you imagine Patty in 4x4 mode? You just keep stepping in it and don't seem to care. Do you know what kind of internet personality behaves that way?
GT/CS Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,626	__________________ SweatyYeti or Bill Munns would be my vote for looking at this - BFSleuth @ BFF I've got plenty of common sense! I just choose to ignore it. - Calvin; October 15, 1986 Last edited by GT/CS; 16th July 2012 at 06:39 PM.

16th July 2012, 06:58 PM	#1714
Voodoosix Thinker Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 152	Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch I think their speed is mostly a result of their phenomenal strength and stride length. relying on brute strength (no matter how phenomenal) for propulsion is inefficient and unadvantageous, we are better equipped to walk upright than this thing described as a sasquatch... but were supposed to believe at the same time that these things are fuzzy forest ninjas who move with cat like stealth & agility and have sustained their population for eons. there are so many contradictions in the descriptions and sighting reports that there is no way people are reporting the same type of thing. look at "Patty", were supposed to believe that's a skwatch but now were told theyre feral humans... the thing in the video is not a feral human. we cant even come up with a coherent description of what is even being discussed if we take what is being offered as evidence into consideration.
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16th July 2012, 07:10 PM	#1715
I am Bigfoot Critical Thinker Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 307	Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch I think their speed is mostly a result of their phenomenal strength and stride length. They are known to run on their hands and feet as well, which isn't easy for normal humans to do. Watch the Olympics. The fastest runners in the world aren't covered in bulky muscles. People covered in bulky muscles generally don't run super fast. I can't think of any fast moving animal that is covered in bulky muscle. Also, where did the superhuman strength come from in the first place? Does bigfoot spend it's days bench pressing the children it kidnaps?