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NightStar76 · 2nd August 2012, 12:09 AM

The fact he's a mormon is one of the reasons I'm supporting him. I don't give a damn about their beliefs, but I've met very few incompetent mormons. Most of them work hard, care about their families, and give generously to charity. Yes, there are some aspects in their belief system that I disagree with, but it's no crazier than mainstream Christianity or Islam.

Hating Mitt Romney for being Mormon is like hating Barack Obama for being black. You have the right to do so in a free society, but it's ceding the debate to your opponents pretty much immediately. So... yay, we win?

BazBear · 2nd August 2012, 01:01 AM

If I was going to run away (which I would not!), I would have done it after Dubya's reelection in '04. Romney's religious affiliation really has nothing to do with why I'll be voting for Obama in November.

UnrepentantSinner · 2nd August 2012, 01:31 AM

Originally Posted by Bill Thompson

Is anyone considering leaving the country if Romney becomes president.

I am.

Of course I'm considering leaving the country if Obama is reelected.

I haven't had a decent vaction outside of the U.S. in years.

Chaos · 2nd August 2012, 05:44 AM

Originally Posted by UnrepentantSinner

I am.

Of course I'm considering leaving the country if Obama is reelected.

I haven't had a decent vaction outside of the U.S. in years.

Should your vacation take you to Frankfurt, purely by accident of course, let me know so I can show you around town.

I can see the tourism slogan: Central Europe - Less Nutty Than The USA!

UnrepentantSinner · 2nd August 2012, 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by Chaos

Should your vacation take you to Frankfurt, purely by accident of course, let me know so I can show you around town.

My pilgrimage to Germany would concentrate on the Bavarian locations I lived and visited like Grafenwoehr and Berchtesgaden, but I would definately need a local who can help me with my atrophied German that today consists of "Wo ist der W.C.?", "Noch ein mal beir bitte" and "Jah, Ich wohne in Texas. Nein, Ich bin nicht krank im kopf".

Chaos · 2nd August 2012, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by UnrepentantSinner

My pilgrimage to Germany would concentrate on the Bavarian locations I lived and visited like Grafenwoehr and Berchtesgaden, but I would definately need a local who can help me with my atrophied German that today consists of "Wo ist der W.C.?", "Noch ein mal beir bitte" and "Jah, Ich wohne in Texas. Nein, Ich bin nicht krank im kopf".

Not bad for a Texan.

Though that last one would come across better as "Ich bin nicht verrückt, ich bin Texaner" ("I´m not crazy, I´m Texan")

I´m not sure I could help you in the places you mention. Over here we have a slightly different concept of "close" and "far" than you over there.

Plus, as a local of one of the saner German states, I´d hate to have to set foot in Bavaria unless it is really really necessary. I don´t want to catch the Lederhosen bug.

RandFan · 2nd August 2012, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by NightStar76

The fact he's a mormon is one of the reasons I'm supporting him. I don't give a damn about their beliefs, but I've met very few incompetent mormons.

I grew up Mormon. You are laboring under a false belief. Mormons are a little bit like the Stepford wives in that they have common affectations, mannerisms and respect for authority among other behaviors that give that illusion. Cultural upbringing might make them a percentage point or two effectively more competent than the average. But, even if that were true it's not as great as you might imagine. Normal distribution, genetically, for Mormons is the same as any other group of humans.

Knowing what I know about Mormons, for me, being an active Mormon is a point against any candidate. Though I must say I was rather impressed with Huntsman. At the end of the day Mormons are just people. They have some culturally inculcated values and attributes that deviate from the norm, some good and some bad.

Beerina · 2nd August 2012, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by MattusMaximus

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Bob001 · 2nd August 2012, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by NightStar76

....Hating Mitt Romney for being Mormon is like hating Barack Obama for being black.

The difference is that adopting a religion is a deliberate choice, not just a consequence of birth. I don't see any reason to hate Gov. Romney, but his particular, peculiar religious beliefs are one of the many reasons he has given us to doubt that he has much understanding of what is important to most Americans. And I would feel the same way about a right-wing evangelical Christian who wants to keep evolution out the the schools, a Catholic who wants to ban abortion and contraception because the Pope commands it, a Muslim who thinks the Koran requires murdering non-believers, a Buddhist who thinks life is an illusion, etc. Gov. Romney's religion is the foundation for his view of the world, and I think that's a problem.

NightStar76 · 2nd August 2012, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by RandFan

I grew up Mormon. You are laboring under a false belief. Mormons are a little bit like the Stepford wives in that they have common affectations, mannerisms and respect for authority among other behaviors that give that illusion. Cultural upbringing might make them a percentage point or two effectively more competent than the average. But, even if that were true it's not as great as you might imagine. Normal distribution, genetically, for Mormons is the same as any other group of humans.

Knowing what I know about Mormons, for me, being an active Mormon is a point against any candidate. Though I must say I was rather impressed with Huntsman. At the end of the day Mormons are just people. They have some culturally inculcated values and attributes that deviate from the norm, some good and some bad.

I suppose that's probably true. I have to admit it's not something I thought of beyond my own personal experience with mormons, most of whom I wouldn't mind seeing in higher office. I can't say I know enough about the religion to make a judgement on how it effects someone, but even if I did, I don't think I would let it decide me against a candidate.

As a religious person, it seems okay to let someone else's religious beliefs decide me in their favor (after everything else is considered) but wrong to let someone else's beliefs decide me against them. I'd give the same courtesy to a Moslem or an atheist not named Richard Dawkins or the aforementioned right wing evangelical extremist, though I'd probably have substantially less common ground with him than I do with Governor Romney or the other hypotheticals.

And yes, I was excited about Governor Huntsman too until he repeatedly showed his inability to connect with anyone. Not sure why that was, but I'm going to call it 'Obama Derangement Syndrome'. Governor Romney was the best candidate who could get through the primary season in a year that for some members of the GOP has been cast as a battle between good and evil on a par with the second world war.

Sackage · 2nd August 2012, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by Bill Thompson

Do you think it is wrong for a grown man to belive in something that is akin to believing that The Blare Witch Project is real?

Loud, was she?

Bill Thompson · 4th August 2012, 11:58 AM

Get your nose out of the spell checker and maybe you can spend some time understanding a point rather than taking pride in finding minutia.

90 replies. Sorry if I cannot get to them very quickly.

The bottom line is this. In the USA we are free to believe any religion. But, as Bill Mar says, this religion is nutty even when judged by the standards of all the other religions.

I am shocked and saddened that a grown man or woman would believe such ... well, what is the difference between Mormonism and B. S.? .... Answer: B.S. is not transparent (original, no copying).

I have also said that it is like believing that The Blair Witch Project is real.

I have Mormon friends. They are great people. But I would not want them in a position of power where they decide who lives and who dies.

That is the difference between being a governor, or a CEO or just a basic nice guy who people want over for dinner. A president makes life and death decisions of when to send kids to war and who gets national funding for a disaster area and who does not.

The bottom line is that it is not a game and it is not a popularity contest where we vote for the guy with the better hair (John Kerry, by the way) or who is better looking (Obama?). It is a deadly serious and life-and death (or death and death) decision.

RandFan · 4th August 2012, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by Bill Thompson

Do I need to tell you what is wrong with being a faithful Mormon? Do you think it is wrong for a grown man to belive in something that is akin to believing that The Blare Witch Project is real?

Talking snake. Talking donkey. Turning water into wine. Walking on water. Resurrection from the dead. Witches. What can we do? I don't know of many politicians that don't believe in that nonsense. Romney's brand of lunacy isn't much worse than Obama's.

Christianity is akin to believing the Blair Witch Project is real but sadly we don't have a lot of options.

sackett · 4th August 2012, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by Ladewig

deleted by user

Aw. I would've loved to read it.

sackett · 4th August 2012, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by R.Mackey

...Besides, where are you going to run to?

Oh Democrat, where you gonna run to?
Oh Democrat, where you gonna run to?
Woh Democrat, where you gonna run to?
All on that day?

sackett · 4th August 2012, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by Bill Thompson

... minutia....

minutiae

ponderingturtle · 4th August 2012, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by JoeTheJuggler

Does his record as governor suggest that he would do any such a thing?

He does repudiate his entire record as governor though.

sarge · 5th August 2012, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by Bill Thompson

The bottom line is this. In the USA we are free to believe any religion. But, as Bill Mar says, this religion is nutty even when judged by the standards of all the other religions. .

bull feathers.

All religions propose equally whack yard beliefs. Really, how do you measure the difference between two absolutely impossible events?

Cobalt · 5th August 2012, 07:00 PM

I want to go to Japan because I'm a fat white neckbeard stereotype, not because someone may or may not be elected.

EGarrett · 6th August 2012, 05:18 AM

Originally Posted by MG1962

You seem to forget he has to re-apply for his job in four years. Anything he does too whacked out will simply be reversed by the Supreme Court

Remember when you could say this with a straight face?

Spindrift · 6th August 2012, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by Bill Thompson

Bill Mar

Bill Maher

RandFan · 6th August 2012, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by Bill Thompson

Bill Mar

Originally Posted by Spindrift

Bill Maher

Del Mar?

sackett · 6th August 2012, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by RandFan

Del Mar?

You mean this place?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Del_Mar_Racetrack

I love horse-racing! I especially love how as they're rounding the first turn you can see all the horses' asses going gallopty-gallopty-gallopty!

RandFan · 6th August 2012, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by sackett

You mean this place?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Del_Mar_Racetrack

I love horse-racing! I especially love how as they're rounding the first turn you can see all the horses' asses going gallopty-gallopty-gallopty!

THAT place. Though I'm just having fun.

Aren't we all?

Robert Prey · 7th August 2012, 03:19 AM

Originally Posted by Bill Thompson

Is anyone considering leaving the country if Romney becomes president. If not, why not? It is not like we will have a president who happens to be Mormon. It will be the fact that we will have have a Mormon President. It is a fine line, but he is on the wrong side of that line. He represents what makes a cult a cult. One has a religion while a cult has you.

Anyone who is not bothered by someone like this representing the nation where you live does not have a working brain or who is just not thinking.

Do I need to tell you what is wrong with being a faithful Mormon? Do you think it is wrong for a grown man to belive in something that is akin to believing that The Blare Witch Project is real?

I have more to say. I will say them in response to this OP. I know that they will be coming soon.

How is Mormanism any more exotic in beliefs than any other religion?

Spindrift · 7th August 2012, 07:52 AM

Originally Posted by Robert Prey

How is Mormanism any more exotic in beliefs than any other religion?

Magic underwear?

Chaos · 7th August 2012, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by Robert Prey

How is Mormanism any more exotic in beliefs than any other religion?

Certainly no more exotic than believing that a mysterious "Nature" has endowed us with "inalienable rights".

funk de fino · 8th August 2012, 05:08 AM

Is this a bit like a Scientologist telling a Moonie he is nuts?

2nd August 2012, 12:09 AM	#81
NightStar76 Thinker Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 181	The fact he's a mormon is one of the reasons I'm supporting him. I don't give a damn about their beliefs, but I've met very few incompetent mormons. Most of them work hard, care about their families, and give generously to charity. Yes, there are some aspects in their belief system that I disagree with, but it's no crazier than mainstream Christianity or Islam. Hating Mitt Romney for being Mormon is like hating Barack Obama for being black. You have the right to do so in a free society, but it's ceding the debate to your opponents pretty much immediately. So... yay, we win?
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2nd August 2012, 01:01 AM	#82
BazBear Teddy Bears do have teeth! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: In The Woods Behind Your House Posts: 1,638	If I was going to run away (which I would not!), I would have done it after Dubya's reelection in '04. Romney's religious affiliation really has nothing to do with why I'll be voting for Obama in November.
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2nd August 2012, 01:31 AM	#83
UnrepentantSinner A post by Alan Smithee Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: USAian is not a word Posts: 26,438	Originally Posted by Bill Thompson Is anyone considering leaving the country if Romney becomes president. I am. Of course I'm considering leaving the country if Obama is reelected. I haven't had a decent vaction outside of the U.S. in years.
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2nd August 2012, 05:44 AM	#84
Chaos TAM Chocolate Dispenser Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Heart of Old Europe Posts: 9,811	Originally Posted by UnrepentantSinner I am. Of course I'm considering leaving the country if Obama is reelected. I haven't had a decent vaction outside of the U.S. in years. Should your vacation take you to Frankfurt, purely by accident of course, let me know so I can show you around town. I can see the tourism slogan: Central Europe - Less Nutty Than The USA!
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2nd August 2012, 08:04 AM	#85
UnrepentantSinner A post by Alan Smithee Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: USAian is not a word Posts: 26,438	Originally Posted by Chaos Should your vacation take you to Frankfurt, purely by accident of course, let me know so I can show you around town. My pilgrimage to Germany would concentrate on the Bavarian locations I lived and visited like Grafenwoehr and Berchtesgaden, but I would definately need a local who can help me with my atrophied German that today consists of "Wo ist der W.C.?", "Noch ein mal beir bitte" and "Jah, Ich wohne in Texas. Nein, Ich bin nicht krank im kopf".
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2nd August 2012, 08:42 AM	#86
Chaos TAM Chocolate Dispenser Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Heart of Old Europe Posts: 9,811	Originally Posted by UnrepentantSinner My pilgrimage to Germany would concentrate on the Bavarian locations I lived and visited like Grafenwoehr and Berchtesgaden, but I would definately need a local who can help me with my atrophied German that today consists of "Wo ist der W.C.?", "Noch ein mal beir bitte" and "Jah, Ich wohne in Texas. Nein, Ich bin nicht krank im kopf". Not bad for a Texan. Though that last one would come across better as "Ich bin nicht verrückt, ich bin Texaner" ("I´m not crazy, I´m Texan") I´m not sure I could help you in the places you mention. Over here we have a slightly different concept of "close" and "far" than you over there. Plus, as a local of one of the saner German states, I´d hate to have to set foot in Bavaria unless it is really really necessary. I don´t want to catch the Lederhosen bug.
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2nd August 2012, 08:47 AM	#87
RandFan Mormon Atheist Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern California Posts: 53,936	Originally Posted by NightStar76 The fact he's a mormon is one of the reasons I'm supporting him. I don't give a damn about their beliefs, but I've met very few incompetent mormons. I grew up Mormon. You are laboring under a false belief. Mormons are a little bit like the Stepford wives in that they have common affectations, mannerisms and respect for authority among other behaviors that give that illusion. Cultural upbringing might make them a percentage point or two effectively more competent than the average. But, even if that were true it's not as great as you might imagine. Normal distribution, genetically, for Mormons is the same as any other group of humans. Knowing what I know about Mormons, for me, being an active Mormon is a point against any candidate. Though I must say I was rather impressed with Huntsman. At the end of the day Mormons are just people. They have some culturally inculcated values and attributes that deviate from the norm, some good and some bad.
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2nd August 2012, 09:09 AM	#88
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2nd August 2012, 09:38 AM	#89
Bob001 Muse Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 939	Originally Posted by NightStar76 ....Hating Mitt Romney for being Mormon is like hating Barack Obama for being black. The difference is that adopting a religion is a deliberate choice, not just a consequence of birth. I don't see any reason to hate Gov. Romney, but his particular, peculiar religious beliefs are one of the many reasons he has given us to doubt that he has much understanding of what is important to most Americans. And I would feel the same way about a right-wing evangelical Christian who wants to keep evolution out the the schools, a Catholic who wants to ban abortion and contraception because the Pope commands it, a Muslim who thinks the Koran requires murdering non-believers, a Buddhist who thinks life is an illusion, etc. Gov. Romney's religion is the foundation for his view of the world, and I think that's a problem.
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2nd August 2012, 01:18 PM	#90
NightStar76 Thinker Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 181	Originally Posted by RandFan I grew up Mormon. You are laboring under a false belief. Mormons are a little bit like the Stepford wives in that they have common affectations, mannerisms and respect for authority among other behaviors that give that illusion. Cultural upbringing might make them a percentage point or two effectively more competent than the average. But, even if that were true it's not as great as you might imagine. Normal distribution, genetically, for Mormons is the same as any other group of humans. Knowing what I know about Mormons, for me, being an active Mormon is a point against any candidate. Though I must say I was rather impressed with Huntsman. At the end of the day Mormons are just people. They have some culturally inculcated values and attributes that deviate from the norm, some good and some bad. I suppose that's probably true. I have to admit it's not something I thought of beyond my own personal experience with mormons, most of whom I wouldn't mind seeing in higher office. I can't say I know enough about the religion to make a judgement on how it effects someone, but even if I did, I don't think I would let it decide me against a candidate. As a religious person, it seems okay to let someone else's religious beliefs decide me in their favor (after everything else is considered) but wrong to let someone else's beliefs decide me against them. I'd give the same courtesy to a Moslem or an atheist not named Richard Dawkins or the aforementioned right wing evangelical extremist, though I'd probably have substantially less common ground with him than I do with Governor Romney or the other hypotheticals. And yes, I was excited about Governor Huntsman too until he repeatedly showed his inability to connect with anyone. Not sure why that was, but I'm going to call it 'Obama Derangement Syndrome'. Governor Romney was the best candidate who could get through the primary season in a year that for some members of the GOP has been cast as a battle between good and evil on a par with the second world war.
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2nd August 2012, 05:00 PM	#91
Sackage Student Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 31	Originally Posted by Bill Thompson Do you think it is wrong for a grown man to belive in something that is akin to believing that The Blare Witch Project is real? Loud, was she?
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4th August 2012, 11:58 AM	#92
Bill Thompson Banned Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Redmond, Washington Posts: 6,176	Get your nose out of the spell checker and maybe you can spend some time understanding a point rather than taking pride in finding minutia. 90 replies. Sorry if I cannot get to them very quickly. The bottom line is this. In the USA we are free to believe any religion. But, as Bill Mar says, this religion is nutty even when judged by the standards of all the other religions. I am shocked and saddened that a grown man or woman would believe such ... well, what is the difference between Mormonism and B. S.? .... Answer: B.S. is not transparent (original, no copying). I have also said that it is like believing that The Blair Witch Project is real. *I have Mormon friends. They are great people. But I would not want them in a position of power where they decide who lives and who dies.* That is the difference between being a governor, or a CEO or just a basic nice guy who people want over for dinner. A president makes life and death decisions of when to send kids to war and who gets national funding for a disaster area and who does not. The bottom line is that it is not a game and it is not a popularity contest where we vote for the guy with the better hair (John Kerry, by the way) or who is better looking (Obama?). It is a deadly serious and life-and death (or death and death) decision.
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4th August 2012, 12:53 PM	#93
RandFan Mormon Atheist Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern California Posts: 53,936	Originally Posted by Bill Thompson Do I need to tell you what is wrong with being a faithful Mormon? Do you think it is wrong for a grown man to belive in something that is akin to believing that The Blare Witch Project is real? Talking snake. Talking donkey. Turning water into wine. Walking on water. Resurrection from the dead. Witches. What can we do? I don't know of many politicians that don't believe in that nonsense. Romney's brand of lunacy isn't much worse than Obama's. Christianity is akin to believing the Blair Witch Project is real but sadly we don't have a lot of options.
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4th August 2012, 01:32 PM	#94
sackett Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Detroit Posts: 3,658	No fair! Originally Posted by Ladewig deleted by user Aw. I would've loved to read it.
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4th August 2012, 01:35 PM	#95
sackett Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Detroit Posts: 3,658	In the words of the old spiritual, Originally Posted by R.Mackey ...Besides, where are you going to run to? Oh Democrat, where you gonna run to? Oh Democrat, where you gonna run to? Woh Democrat, where you gonna run to? All on that day?
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4th August 2012, 01:49 PM	#96
sackett Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Detroit Posts: 3,658	Originally Posted by Bill Thompson ... minutia.... minutiae
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4th August 2012, 03:35 PM	#97
ponderingturtle Orthogonal Vector Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Tarrytown, NY Posts: 26,547	Originally Posted by JoeTheJuggler Does his record as governor suggest that he would do any such a thing? He does repudiate his entire record as governor though.
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5th August 2012, 05:48 PM	#98
sarge Master Poster Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 2,445	Originally Posted by Bill Thompson The bottom line is this. In the USA we are free to believe any religion. But, as Bill Mar says, this religion is nutty even when judged by the standards of all the other religions. . bull feathers. All religions propose equally whack yard beliefs. Really, how do you measure the difference between two absolutely impossible events?
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5th August 2012, 07:00 PM	#99
Cobalt Tobikan Judan Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,631	I want to go to Japan because I'm a fat white neckbeard stereotype, not because someone may or may not be elected.
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6th August 2012, 05:18 AM	#100
EGarrett Master Poster Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 2,987	Originally Posted by MG1962 You seem to forget he has to re-apply for his job in four years. Anything he does too whacked out will simply be reversed by the Supreme Court Remember when you could say this with a straight face?
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6th August 2012, 11:21 AM	#101
Spindrift Enturbulator Extraordinaire Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Right here! Posts: 8,656	Originally Posted by Bill Thompson Bill Mar Bill Maher
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6th August 2012, 11:24 AM	#102
RandFan Mormon Atheist Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern California Posts: 53,936	Originally Posted by Bill Thompson Bill Mar Originally Posted by Spindrift Bill Maher Del Mar?
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6th August 2012, 02:23 PM	#103
sackett Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Detroit Posts: 3,658	I did it again, didn't I? Originally Posted by RandFan Del Mar? You mean this place? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Del_Mar_Racetrack I love horse-racing! I especially love how as they're rounding the first turn you can see all the horses' asses going gallopty-gallopty-gallopty!
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6th August 2012, 02:31 PM	#104
RandFan Mormon Atheist Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern California Posts: 53,936	Originally Posted by sackett You mean this place? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Del_Mar_Racetrack I love horse-racing! I especially love how as they're rounding the first turn you can see all the horses' asses going gallopty-gallopty-gallopty! THAT place. Though I'm just having fun. Aren't we all?
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7th August 2012, 03:19 AM	#105
Robert Prey Suspended Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 6,565	Originally Posted by Bill Thompson Is anyone considering leaving the country if Romney becomes president. If not, why not? It is not like we will have a president who happens to be Mormon. It will be the fact that we will have have a Mormon President. It is a fine line, but he is on the wrong side of that line. He represents what makes a cult a cult. One has a religion while a cult has you. Anyone who is not bothered by someone like this representing the nation where you live does not have a working brain or who is just not thinking. Do I need to tell you what is wrong with being a faithful Mormon? Do you think it is wrong for a grown man to belive in something that is akin to believing that The Blare Witch Project is real? I have more to say. I will say them in response to this OP. I know that they will be coming soon. How is Mormanism any more exotic in beliefs than any other religion?
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7th August 2012, 07:52 AM	#106
Spindrift Enturbulator Extraordinaire Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Right here! Posts: 8,656	Originally Posted by Robert Prey How is Mormanism any more exotic in beliefs than any other religion? Magic underwear?
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7th August 2012, 11:23 AM	#107
Chaos TAM Chocolate Dispenser Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Heart of Old Europe Posts: 9,811	Originally Posted by Robert Prey How is Mormanism any more exotic in beliefs than any other religion? Certainly no more exotic than believing that a mysterious "Nature" has endowed us with "inalienable rights".
	__________________ Grand Master, Knights of the Question Mark Illusion: too good to be true - Reality: too true to be good Authors build castles in the sky, readers live in them and publishers collect the rent. - Maxim Gorki Folks enjoy a witch-hunt as long as they are on the blunt end of the pitchfork. - Suezoled You can't use logic to talk a man out of a position that he didn't use logic to get himself into - passed down by Nyarlathotep Kids these days are better than their parents since they constitute the newest edition, the beta version of our societies - Cleopatra YouÂ´ll have to accept the fact that some people are just plain nuts. - Paul C. Anagnostopolous

8th August 2012, 05:08 AM	#108
funk de fino Dreaming of unicorns Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Alba Posts: 10,813	Is this a bit like a Scientologist telling a Moonie he is nuts?
	__________________ Stundie - Avoided like the plaque, its a scottish turn of phrase. Christopher 7 - There is no need to contact them for conformation. That is just a denial tactic