Video of Bush saying he saw first plane hit on a TV screen - Page 2

beachnut · 13th August 2012, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by FatFreddy88

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCtb9nlV_20
If that link doesn't work, do a YouTube search on "Bush Saw The First Plane Hit! Advanced Knowledge of 9/11? ".

Here's another one in case that one goes off-line.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFPOstgw3rk

You pro-official version people are probably going to say that he was talking about the second plane which may turn out to be true I suppose; I haven't researched this. Can anyone post something about this? How can we determine which plane he was referring to?

Of course whichever case turns out to be true, 9/11 was still an inside job.

What is left to say?
You pro-nonsense version people are unable to use facts and evidence to form rational conclusions...

Why is 911 truth always wrong? A perfect record of woo.

Bush said, he "saw the first plane hit on TV". Bush left out the following, "where". Bush meant to say, "I saw where the first plane hit, on TV". Oops, so much for 911 truth; the pure nonsense and perpetual lies movement that does nothing. 10 years behind, you could have figured this out 10+ years ago.

The inside job claim, failed; 911 truth is failure. Post nonsense, run away, repeat.

twinstead · 14th August 2012, 05:33 AM

Jesus, FatFreddy. Why not start another "pull it" thread while you're at it?

triforcharity · 14th August 2012, 07:37 AM

Originally Posted by twinstead

Jesus, FatFreddy. Why not start another "pull it" thread while you're at it?

Are you TRYING to break the internet???

Crazytimes · 14th August 2012, 08:21 AM

I just dont understand what it would mean if Bush actually claimed he saw it live. How does that mean he and the rest of his crew were in on it ? Why does basic common sense fail truthers ?

TheRedWorm · 14th August 2012, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by Crazytimes

I just dont understand what it would mean if Bush actually claimed he saw it live. How does that mean he and the rest of his crew were in on it ? Why does basic common sense fail truthers ?

Because thinking is hard.

plague311 · 14th August 2012, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by Crazytimes

I just dont understand what it would mean if Bush actually claimed he saw it live. How does that mean he and the rest of his crew were in on it ? Why does basic common sense fail truthers ?

That's a question inquired to truthers on all levels. It can be done at the very beginning with a simple question.

Why did the government, supposedly, stage 9/11 with military precision and accuracy, yet fail to plant WMD's to avoid making them look like complete morons when they went to war in Iraq?

Is THAT where they draw then line? They'll murder thousands of our own citizens but they aren't going to plant some fake explosives? It can't be that they couldn't sneak them into the country, they were just able to pull off a multiple target attack in the US?

None of the conspiracy makes any sense at all, yet twoofers continue to fight the battle every day. Against the evil gubbamint agents here on the intartewbz

Cl1mh4224rd · 14th August 2012, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by twinstead

Jesus, FatFreddy. Why not start another "pull it" thread while you're at it?

I'm waiting for a link to that new, earth-shattering documentary called 911: In Plane Site.

Robrob · 14th August 2012, 04:21 PM

That peoples' memories are malleable and well after the fact someone might conflate earlier with later information - this surprises who?

Edx · 14th August 2012, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by Crazytimes

I just dont understand what it would mean if Bush actually claimed he saw it live. How does that mean he and the rest of his crew were in on it ? Why does basic common sense fail truthers ?

It also means Bush is an idiot who cant keep his mouth shut. So either way Bush is an idiot, but truthers require him to be an evil genius, idiot.

1337m4n · 14th August 2012, 08:53 PM

9/11 Truth: The belief that the US government is simultaneously the most competent and the least competent organization on the face of the planet.

CORed · 18th August 2012, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by Animal

I met W. in person once. He is actually quite smart and could work a room. But the moment the camera lights turned on, it was like he was a deer caught in the headlights

Bush didn't do all that badly when he was reading a prepared speech, but when he had to answer questions, he was comically bad.

CORed · 18th August 2012, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by Bell

Have you tried searching in 2006?

Eta: And no, we "pro-official version people" don't claim George W. Bush was talking about the second plane. He was sitting in the classroom at that moment. Can't you get anything right?

I'm sure at some time in is life FF88 got something right. Broken clocks and all that. But that's just speculation on my part, I've not seen any evidence of it in his posts here.

frenat · 18th August 2012, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by CORed

Bush didn't do all that badly when he was reading a prepared speech, but when he had to answer questions, he was comically bad.

He's still a better speaker than Obama if they don't get a teleprompter.

Robrob · 18th August 2012, 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by frenat

He's still a better speaker than Obama if they don't get a teleprompter.

Yeeeeeeah, no.

frenat · 19th August 2012, 05:07 AM

Originally Posted by Robrob

Yeeeeeeah, no.

Have you seen Obama without a teleprompter? Even with his verbal flubs, Bush is still a much better speaker on the fly.

Bell · 19th August 2012, 05:14 AM

Originally Posted by frenat

Have you seen Obama without a teleprompter?

Obama walks onto the stage, waves at the crowd and shouts "Hello Detroit!"
The crowd bursts out in booing.
"What?" Obama whispers to his press secretary "Are we not in Detroit?"
"Yes, we are" the press secretary replies "But there is no need to remind them."

Animal · 19th August 2012, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by CORed

Bush didn't do all that badly when he was reading a prepared speech, but when he had to answer questions, he was comically bad.

Sort of like Obama with and without a teleprompter.

Except Bush was labeled an idiot and Obama is the "most intelligent president evah"

Robrob · 19th August 2012, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by Animal

Sort of like Obama with and without a teleprompter.

Except Bush was labeled an idiot and Obama is the "most intelligent president evah"

Yeeeeeeah, no.

QuestioningAnswers · 20th August 2012, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by FatFreddy88

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCtb9nlV_20
If that link doesn't work, do a YouTube search on "Bush Saw The First Plane Hit! Advanced Knowledge of 9/11? ".

Here's another one in case that one goes off-line.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFPOstgw3rk

You pro-official version people are probably going to say that he was talking about the second plane which may turn out to be true I suppose; I haven't researched this. Can anyone post something about this? How can we determine which plane he was referring to?

Of course whichever case turns out to be true, 9/11 was still an inside job.

What's the proof that it's an inside job? There is compelling evidence to believe that the upcoming attack was allowed to happen, but I have seen no conformable hard proof that it was initiated by a faction of the US government. If it was an inside job, they definitely got away with it.

jadebox · 20th August 2012, 11:18 AM

Quote:

"And I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower ..."

A person who grew up in the South is likely to say "I saw an airplane hit the tower" when they really mean "I saw that an airplane had hit the tower." I think we sometimes leave out words to make up for talking so slowly.

-- Roger

Reactor drone · 20th August 2012, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by jadebox

A person who grew up in the South is likely to say "I saw an airplane hit the tower" when they really mean "I saw that an airplane had hit the tower." I think we sometimes leave out words to make up for talking so slowly.

-- Roger

Yeah, not much difference between "And I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower ..."
and "And I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane'd hit the tower ..."

fuelair · 20th August 2012, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by FatFreddy88

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCtb9nlV_20
If that link doesn't work, do a YouTube search on "Bush Saw The First Plane Hit! Advanced Knowledge of 9/11? ".

Here's another one in case that one goes off-line.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFPOstgw3rk

You pro-official version people are probably going to say that he was talking about the second plane which may turn out to be true I suppose; I haven't researched this. Can anyone post something about this? How can we determine which plane he was referring to?

Of course whichever case turns out to be true, 9/11 was still an inside job.

How's your cat doing???!

Dave Rogers · 21st August 2012, 03:35 AM

Originally Posted by QuestioningAnswers

There is compelling evidence to believe that the upcoming attack was allowed to happen,

Well, yes, in that it actually did happen. There is no compelling proof, however, that it was deliberately allowed to happen.

Dave

twinstead · 21st August 2012, 03:37 AM

So your position, Fatfreddy, is that you MAY be wrong about the interpretation of what Bush said, but that's not important because 9-11 was an inside job anyway? How can you be sure now? How many OTHER things might you be wrong about?

What if you were wrong about EVERYTHING?

ETA: "Pro-Official Version People" LOL. Cult members always have such cute names for rational people.

CORed · 28th August 2012, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by Animal

Sort of like Obama with and without a teleprompter.

Except Bush was labeled an idiot and Obama is the "most intelligent president evah"

Obama does hem and haw and "um" without a teleprompter, but I have yet to hear anything comparable to "Put food on your family". Though the 57 state thing came close.

Oz1976 · 28th August 2012, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by Voodoosix

did video of the 1st impact make it from the camera to the airwaves in time for it to be aired for Bush to even see it? 1st impact was 8:45am est and Bush went into the classroom at 9:04am est.

looks as if Bush...
misspoke,
is misquoted,
or ... im going out on a limb here... is full of crap.

I'm pretty sure the Naudet footage was the first relesed of the initial impact, and it was a day later...considering the guy who had the footage was INSIDE the North Tower following the impact and up until the collapse of the South Tower.

I'm going with misspoke.

BabyLion · 28th August 2012, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by CORed

Obama does hem and haw and "um" without a teleprompter, but I have yet to hear anything comparable to "Put food on your family". Though the 57 state thing came close.

There are entire coffee table books dedicated to Bushisms.... to say he was good at speaking, period is just laughable.

tfk · 28th August 2012, 05:41 PM

And Bush made this statement about a month after the event. After the video of the actual event had been shown ceaselessly for about 30 days.

Ya think that he might have had a few things on his platter between 9/11 & 10/11?

Much of my work is writing patents. Many of them in collaborative groups. You'd be positively flabbergasted at how "elastic" (& how provably wrong) people's memories can be about "when/how did I come to know that?"

twinstead · 28th August 2012, 06:13 PM

It makes no difference. In Truther World, there are no such things as misspoken words, mis-remembered events, or mistakes--only evil confessions.

BabyLion · 28th August 2012, 06:17 PM

I think one time i saw Bush's eyes blink vertically like a reptile....

Robrob · 28th August 2012, 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by CORed

Originally Posted by Animal

Sort of like Obama with and without a teleprompter.

Except Bush was labeled an idiot and Obama is the "most intelligent president evah"

Obama does hem and haw and "um" without a teleprompter, but I have yet to hear anything comparable to "Put food on your family". Though the 57 state thing came close.

It's just GOP "retribution" for eight years of deserved criticisms of their inarticulate favorite. Same with their complaints Obama plays too much golf.

Animal · 29th August 2012, 07:23 AM

Originally Posted by Robrob

It's just GOP "retribution" for eight years of deserved criticisms of their inarticulate favorite. Same with their complaints Obama plays too much golf.

Not "retribution" just showing how the same thing can be spun in two different ways.

RE: Golf - the MSM complained often about the amount of golf Bush played, now that "their"uys is in the white house, golf is no longer an issue.

BTW, I fully agree that Bush was inarticulate in front of a camera, and "favorite" ---hardly

DavidJames · 29th August 2012, 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by Animal

RE: Golf - the MSM complained often about the amount of golf Bush played, now that "their"uys is in the white house, golf is no longer an issue.

If they complained often, it should be easy for you to post links quantifying this claim. You should also be able to document the amount of golf each president played to help us assess whether the lack of complaints by the MSM (as you claim) is valid.

Thanks.

Animal · 29th August 2012, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by DavidJames

If they complained often, it should be easy for you to post links quantifying this claim. You should also be able to document the amount of golf each president played to help us assess whether the lack of complaints by the MSM (as you claim) is valid.

Thanks.

My, I guess you are too lazy to look up common knowledge.

Over 100 rounds in 3+ years vs 24 in 8 years.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/...ents-beat-that

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...tial-golf.html
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/...golf-than-bush

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...nguage=printer

100s more BTW

Google is not your friend

frenat · 29th August 2012, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by Animal

BTW, I fully agree that Bush was inarticulate in front of a camera, and "favorite" ---hardly

he was often (though not always) inarticulate but at least he could speak without a teleprompter. He may have messed up some words here and there (people always remember the few errors rather than the rest where he was able to speak fine) but he was able to talk without having a prepared speech in front of him. You can't say the same for Obama. I first noticed it back during the campaign 4 years ago. Obama speaks very well when he has something to read but if he doesn't have anything prepared he falls apart. Hopefully, for his sake, he has improved in the last 4 years. He hasn't had many opportunities to speak without something prepared since the debates 4 years ago.

DavidJames · 29th August 2012, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by Animal

My, I guess you are too lazy to look up common knowledge.

Over 100 rounds in 3+ years vs 24 in 8 years.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/...ents-beat-that

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...tial-golf.html
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/...golf-than-bush

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...nguage=printer

100s more BTW

Google is not your friend

Did you read those stories? You posted MSM stories saying the MSD doesn't care about how much golf the president plays, lol. But it gets better. Those MSM articles also complain about the MSM complaining about how much golf Bush played. Yet, like you couldn't provide proof.

So let's recap.
You say the MSM complained about Bush playing to much golf - You provided zero evidence.
You say the MSM is ignoring how much golf Obama plays - You provide MSM articles to "support" your point.

In other words, you substitute shallow Google surfing for intelligence.

Edit - I also need to address this

Quote:

I guess you are too lazy to look up common knowledge.

Perhaps you're new here or aren't aware but it's common practice for YOU to support YOUR claims. As for "common knowledge", I see that phrase all the time from CTists. While you may prefer their debating tactics, they are not your friends.

Robrob · 29th August 2012, 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by Animal

My, I guess you are too lazy to look up common knowledge.

Over 100 rounds in 3+ years vs 24 in 8 years.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/...ents-beat-that

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...tial-golf.html
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/...golf-than-bush

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...nguage=printer

100s more BTW

Google is not your friend

13th August 2012, 09:50 PM	#41
beachnut Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Dog House Posts: 19,911	Originally Posted by FatFreddy88 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCtb9nlV_20 If that link doesn't work, do a YouTube search on "Bush Saw The First Plane Hit! Advanced Knowledge of 9/11? ". Here's another one in case that one goes off-line. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFPOstgw3rk You pro-official version people are probably going to say that he was talking about the second plane which may turn out to be true I suppose; I haven't researched this. Can anyone post something about this? How can we determine which plane he was referring to? Of course whichever case turns out to be true, 9/11 was still an inside job. What is left to say? You pro-nonsense version people are unable to use facts and evidence to form rational conclusions... Why is 911 truth always wrong? A perfect record of woo. Bush said, he "saw the first plane hit on TV". Bush left out the following, "where". Bush meant to say, "I saw where the first plane hit, on TV". Oops, so much for 911 truth; the pure nonsense and perpetual lies movement that does nothing. 10 years behind, you could have figured this out 10+ years ago. The inside job claim, failed; 911 truth is failure. Post nonsense, run away, repeat.
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14th August 2012, 05:33 AM	#42
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14th August 2012, 07:37 AM	#43
triforcharity Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: The South! Posts: 12,239	Originally Posted by twinstead Jesus, FatFreddy. Why not start another "pull it" thread while you're at it? Are you TRYING to break the internet???
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14th August 2012, 09:08 AM	#45
TheRedWorm I AM the Red Worm! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Body: Michigan, Heart: Chicago Posts: 3,917	Originally Posted by Crazytimes I just dont understand what it would mean if Bush actually claimed he saw it live. How does that mean he and the rest of his crew were in on it ? Why does basic common sense fail truthers ? Because thinking is hard.
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14th August 2012, 10:32 AM	#46
plague311 Muse Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Yankees Universe Posts: 894	Originally Posted by Crazytimes I just dont understand what it would mean if Bush actually claimed he saw it live. How does that mean he and the rest of his crew were in on it ? Why does basic common sense fail truthers ? That's a question inquired to truthers on all levels. It can be done at the very beginning with a simple question. Why did the government, supposedly, stage 9/11 with military precision and accuracy, yet fail to plant WMD's to avoid making them look like complete morons when they went to war in Iraq? Is THAT where they draw then line? They'll murder thousands of our own citizens but they aren't going to plant some fake explosives? It can't be that they couldn't sneak them into the country, they were just able to pull off a multiple target attack in the US? None of the conspiracy makes any sense at all, yet twoofers continue to fight the battle every day. Against the evil gubbamint agents here on the intartewbz
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14th August 2012, 08:21 AM	#44
Crazytimes Critical Thinker Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 348	I just dont understand what it would mean if Bush actually claimed he saw it live. How does that mean he and the rest of his crew were in on it ? Why does basic common sense fail truthers ?

14th August 2012, 10:58 AM	#47
Cl1mh4224rd Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Pennsylvania, USA Posts: 6,618	Originally Posted by twinstead Jesus, FatFreddy. Why not start another "pull it" thread while you're at it? I'm waiting for a link to that new, earth-shattering documentary called 911: In Plane Site.

14th August 2012, 04:21 PM	#48
Robrob Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,660	That peoples' memories are malleable and well after the fact someone might conflate earlier with later information - this surprises who?
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14th August 2012, 05:08 PM	#49
Edx Illuminator Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 4,279	Originally Posted by Crazytimes I just dont understand what it would mean if Bush actually claimed he saw it live. How does that mean he and the rest of his crew were in on it ? Why does basic common sense fail truthers ? It also means Bush is an idiot who cant keep his mouth shut. So either way Bush is an idiot, but truthers require him to be an evil genius, idiot.
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14th August 2012, 08:53 PM	#50
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18th August 2012, 07:05 PM	#51
CORed Illuminator Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 4,295	Originally Posted by Animal I met W. in person once. He is actually quite smart and could work a room. But the moment the camera lights turned on, it was like he was a deer caught in the headlights Bush didn't do all that badly when he was reading a prepared speech, but when he had to answer questions, he was comically bad.
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18th August 2012, 07:14 PM	#52
CORed Illuminator Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 4,295	Originally Posted by Bell Have you tried searching in 2006? Eta: And no, we "pro-official version people" don't claim George W. Bush was talking about the second plane. He was sitting in the classroom at that moment. Can't you get anything right? I'm sure at some time in is life FF88 got something right. Broken clocks and all that. But that's just speculation on my part, I've not seen any evidence of it in his posts here.
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18th August 2012, 08:06 PM	#53
frenat Critical Thinker Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 258	Originally Posted by CORed Bush didn't do all that badly when he was reading a prepared speech, but when he had to answer questions, he was comically bad. He's still a better speaker than Obama if they don't get a teleprompter.
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18th August 2012, 09:30 PM	#54
Robrob Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,660	Originally Posted by frenat He's still a better speaker than Obama if they don't get a teleprompter. Yeeeeeeah, no.
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19th August 2012, 05:07 AM	#55
frenat Critical Thinker Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 258	Originally Posted by Robrob Yeeeeeeah, no. Have you seen Obama without a teleprompter? Even with his verbal flubs, Bush is still a much better speaker on the fly.
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19th August 2012, 05:14 AM	#56
Bell beautiful freak Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 20,486	Originally Posted by frenat Have you seen Obama without a teleprompter? Obama walks onto the stage, waves at the crowd and shouts "Hello Detroit!" The crowd bursts out in booing. "What?" Obama whispers to his press secretary "Are we not in Detroit?" "Yes, we are" the press secretary replies "But there is no need to remind them."
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19th August 2012, 10:44 AM	#57
Animal Graduate Poster Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,368	Originally Posted by CORed Bush didn't do all that badly when he was reading a prepared speech, but when he had to answer questions, he was comically bad. Sort of like Obama with and without a teleprompter. Except Bush was labeled an idiot and Obama is the "most intelligent president evah"

19th August 2012, 05:58 PM	#58
Robrob Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,660	Originally Posted by Animal Sort of like Obama with and without a teleprompter. Except Bush was labeled an idiot and Obama is the "most intelligent president evah" Yeeeeeeah, no.
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20th August 2012, 11:05 AM	#59
QuestioningAnswers Scholar Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 79	Originally Posted by FatFreddy88 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCtb9nlV_20 If that link doesn't work, do a YouTube search on "Bush Saw The First Plane Hit! Advanced Knowledge of 9/11? ". Here's another one in case that one goes off-line. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFPOstgw3rk You pro-official version people are probably going to say that he was talking about the second plane which may turn out to be true I suppose; I haven't researched this. Can anyone post something about this? How can we determine which plane he was referring to? Of course whichever case turns out to be true, 9/11 was still an inside job. What's the proof that it's an inside job? There is compelling evidence to believe that the upcoming attack was allowed to happen, but I have seen no conformable hard proof that it was initiated by a faction of the US government. If it was an inside job, they definitely got away with it.
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20th August 2012, 11:18 AM	#60
jadebox Muse Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Oviedo, FL Posts: 904	Quote: "And I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower ..." A person who grew up in the South is likely to say "I saw an airplane hit the tower" when they really mean "I saw that an airplane had hit the tower." I think we sometimes leave out words to make up for talking so slowly. -- Roger
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20th August 2012, 05:47 PM	#61
Reactor drone Muse Join Date: May 2009 Location: Ministry of housinge Posts: 630	Originally Posted by jadebox A person who grew up in the South is likely to say "I saw an airplane hit the tower" when they really mean "I saw that an airplane had hit the tower." I think we sometimes leave out words to make up for talking so slowly. -- Roger Yeah, not much difference between "And I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower ..." and "And I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane'd hit the tower ..."

20th August 2012, 07:37 PM	#62
fuelair Cythraul Enfys Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 28,961	Originally Posted by FatFreddy88 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCtb9nlV_20 If that link doesn't work, do a YouTube search on "Bush Saw The First Plane Hit! Advanced Knowledge of 9/11? ". Here's another one in case that one goes off-line. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFPOstgw3rk You pro-official version people are probably going to say that he was talking about the second plane which may turn out to be true I suppose; I haven't researched this. Can anyone post something about this? How can we determine which plane he was referring to? Of course whichever case turns out to be true, 9/11 was still an inside job. How's your cat doing???!
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21st August 2012, 03:35 AM	#63
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21st August 2012, 03:37 AM	#64
twinstead Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Big corner office in NWO Towers Posts: 11,581	So your position, Fatfreddy, is that you MAY be wrong about the interpretation of what Bush said, but that's not important because 9-11 was an inside job anyway? How can you be sure now? How many OTHER things might you be wrong about? What if you were wrong about EVERYTHING? ETA: "Pro-Official Version People" LOL. Cult members always have such cute names for rational people.
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28th August 2012, 10:13 AM	#65
CORed Illuminator Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 4,295	Originally Posted by Animal Sort of like Obama with and without a teleprompter. Except Bush was labeled an idiot and Obama is the "most intelligent president evah" Obama does hem and haw and "um" without a teleprompter, but I have yet to hear anything comparable to "Put food on your family". Though the 57 state thing came close.
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28th August 2012, 05:07 PM	#66
Oz1976 Muse Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 684	Originally Posted by Voodoosix did video of the 1st impact make it from the camera to the airwaves in time for it to be aired for Bush to even see it? 1st impact was 8:45am est and Bush went into the classroom at 9:04am est. looks as if Bush... misspoke, is misquoted, or ... im going out on a limb here... is full of crap. I'm pretty sure the Naudet footage was the first relesed of the initial impact, and it was a day later...considering the guy who had the footage was INSIDE the North Tower following the impact and up until the collapse of the South Tower. I'm going with misspoke.
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28th August 2012, 05:29 PM	#67
BabyLion Scholar Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 100	Originally Posted by CORed Obama does hem and haw and "um" without a teleprompter, but I have yet to hear anything comparable to "Put food on your family". Though the 57 state thing came close. There are entire coffee table books dedicated to Bushisms.... to say he was good at speaking, period is just laughable.

28th August 2012, 05:41 PM	#68
tfk Master Poster Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,978	And Bush made this statement about a month after the event. After the video of the actual event had been shown ceaselessly for about 30 days. Ya think that he might have had a few things on his platter between 9/11 & 10/11? Much of my work is writing patents. Many of them in collaborative groups. You'd be positively flabbergasted at how "elastic" (& how provably wrong) people's memories can be about "when/how did I come to know that?"
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28th August 2012, 06:13 PM	#69
twinstead Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Big corner office in NWO Towers Posts: 11,581	It makes no difference. In Truther World, there are no such things as misspoken words, mis-remembered events, or mistakes--only evil confessions.
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28th August 2012, 06:17 PM	#70
BabyLion Scholar Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 100	I think one time i saw Bush's eyes blink vertically like a reptile....

28th August 2012, 09:21 PM	#71
Robrob Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,660	Originally Posted by CORed Originally Posted by Animal Sort of like Obama with and without a teleprompter. Except Bush was labeled an idiot and Obama is the "most intelligent president evah" Obama does hem and haw and "um" without a teleprompter, but I have yet to hear anything comparable to "Put food on your family". Though the 57 state thing came close. It's just GOP "retribution" for eight years of deserved criticisms of their inarticulate favorite. Same with their complaints Obama plays too much golf.
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29th August 2012, 07:23 AM	#72
Animal Graduate Poster Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,368	Originally Posted by Robrob It's just GOP "retribution" for eight years of deserved criticisms of their inarticulate favorite. Same with their complaints Obama plays too much golf. Not "retribution" just showing how the same thing can be spun in two different ways. RE: Golf - the MSM complained often about the amount of golf Bush played, now that "their"uys is in the white house, golf is no longer an issue. BTW, I fully agree that Bush was inarticulate in front of a camera, and "favorite" ---hardly
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29th August 2012, 07:53 AM	#73
DavidJames Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Front Range, CO Posts: 7,088	Originally Posted by Animal RE: Golf - the MSM complained often about the amount of golf Bush played, now that "their"uys is in the white house, golf is no longer an issue. If they complained often, it should be easy for you to post links quantifying this claim. You should also be able to document the amount of golf each president played to help us assess whether the lack of complaints by the MSM (as you claim) is valid. Thanks.
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29th August 2012, 08:18 AM	#74
Animal Graduate Poster Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,368	Originally Posted by DavidJames If they complained often, it should be easy for you to post links quantifying this claim. You should also be able to document the amount of golf each president played to help us assess whether the lack of complaints by the MSM (as you claim) is valid. Thanks. My, I guess you are too lazy to look up common knowledge. Over 100 rounds in 3+ years vs 24 in 8 years. http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/...ents-beat-that http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...tial-golf.html http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/...golf-than-bush http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...nguage=printer 100s more BTW Google is not your friend

29th August 2012, 08:35 AM	#75
frenat Critical Thinker Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 258	Originally Posted by Animal BTW, I fully agree that Bush was inarticulate in front of a camera, and "favorite" ---hardly he was often (though not always) inarticulate but at least he could speak without a teleprompter. He may have messed up some words here and there (people always remember the few errors rather than the rest where he was able to speak fine) but he was able to talk without having a prepared speech in front of him. You can't say the same for Obama. I first noticed it back during the campaign 4 years ago. Obama speaks very well when he has something to read but if he doesn't have anything prepared he falls apart. Hopefully, for his sake, he has improved in the last 4 years. He hasn't had many opportunities to speak without something prepared since the debates 4 years ago.
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