Reasons to love the devil. - Page 2

Dave Rogers · 21st August 2012, 03:32 AM

Originally Posted by Quinn

ETA: Damn you, Evolved Wookie!

If it weren't for the Devil, you wouldn't be able to.

Dave

Clive · 21st August 2012, 03:38 AM

I am but one stroke less than the devil and with a mirrored tail.
I'm not evil, see?
See no evil.
Clive

Dancing David · 21st August 2012, 04:52 AM

Originally Posted by Quinn

After enduring years of verbal and emotional abuse, finally stood up to Saddam and became a role model for abused spouses everywhere.

,

Is that the 'Ladder to Heaven' episode?

alfaniner · 21st August 2012, 07:00 AM

Lived backwards.

catsmate1 · 21st August 2012, 07:04 AM

She's super-horny.

aggle-rithm · 21st August 2012, 07:14 AM

From "The King of Queens":

Carrie: You really think you're going to be tormented by a guy with a pitchfork wearing red tights?

Doug: Those aren't tights. That's his skin.

Loss Leader · 21st August 2012, 07:20 AM

Was played by both John Ritter and Ray Walston.

Finster · 21st August 2012, 07:25 AM

Nay_Sayer · 21st August 2012, 08:58 AM

Wears prada and has a fondness for peter tork.

Myriad · 21st August 2012, 09:31 AM

Will accept hot pitch for payment, unlike the power company or Amazon.com.

Finster · 21st August 2012, 11:21 AM

I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints, the sinners are much more fun.

padego · 21st August 2012, 11:40 AM

He made me do it.

tsig · 21st August 2012, 12:01 PM

He can always light a campfire even in the wet.

tsig · 21st August 2012, 12:02 PM

He gave me top market price for a pretty run down soul.

MNBrant · 22nd August 2012, 12:42 PM

Wow I cant add anything to this that isnt a secret.

Polaris · 22nd August 2012, 12:47 PM

He taught Anne Howe the meaning of customer service.

superfreddy · 22nd August 2012, 12:55 PM

She wears Prada...

Tomtomkent · 22nd August 2012, 01:35 PM

Who doesn't love the guy?

He didn't want his kin subservient to man... So is anti slavery.
He wants to disrupt gods plans for the end of days; a plan that involves war in the middle east, suffering, death and forced conversion.
He apparently supports sexual liberation, a range of religions, homosexual rights, equal marriage, is pro choice, pro stem cell research, pro GM...
He is a force of justice, helping st Paul filter out those evil types to be segregated from heaven. Where would you rather those guys went in the after life?

In short a politically progressive liberal who is the governor of a very right wing prison.

Why the bad press?

Bikewer · 23rd August 2012, 06:16 AM

I knew someone would get to Liz Hurley before me....I liked the schoolteacher outfit....

Skwinty · 23rd August 2012, 06:24 AM

I married his sister.

aggle-rithm · 23rd August 2012, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by Tomtomkent

Who doesn't love the guy?

He didn't want his kin subservient to man... So is anti slavery.
He wants to disrupt gods plans for the end of days; a plan that involves war in the middle east, suffering, death and forced conversion.
He apparently supports sexual liberation, a range of religions, homosexual rights, equal marriage, is pro choice, pro stem cell research, pro GM...
He is a force of justice, helping st Paul filter out those evil types to be segregated from heaven. Where would you rather those guys went in the after life?

In short a politically progressive liberal who is the governor of a very right wing prison.

Why the bad press?

It's interesting that in popular culture, the Prince of Darkness seems to be undergoing a transformation into an increasingly sympathetic character. In movies he's often portrayed as having the vital role of keeping the balance between good and evil, as well as having the responsibility of punishing the wicked.

I mean, who doesn't want Hitler to be punished?

rcfieldz · 23rd August 2012, 10:39 AM

This is for the humor thread...

Dinwar · 23rd August 2012, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by aggle-rithm

It's interesting that in popular culture, the Prince of Darkness seems to be undergoing a transformation into an increasingly sympathetic character. In movies he's often portrayed as having the vital role of keeping the balance between good and evil, as well as having the responsibility of punishing the wicked.

I mean, who doesn't want Hitler to be punished?

It's actually going back to his roots. Satan originally referred, as I understand it, to any opposition to God--even opposition God himself appointed. The term was a title, not a name, and in the OT God used several during some theologically important instances. Satan wasn't considered evil, merely someone you were supposed to disagree with.

If I recall corretly it wasn't until much later that Satan and the Devil and Lucifer and all that were rolled into one character, and that that character was considered evil. And it wasn't until Paradise Lost that we got the concept of Satan ruling Hell--in Donte's work, for example, he was a prisoner.

aggle-rithm · 23rd August 2012, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by Dinwar

It's actually going back to his roots. Satan originally referred, as I understand it, to any opposition to God--even opposition God himself appointed. The term was a title, not a name, and in the OT God used several during some theologically important instances. Satan wasn't considered evil, merely someone you were supposed to disagree with.

If I recall corretly it wasn't until much later that Satan and the Devil and Lucifer and all that were rolled into one character, and that that character was considered evil. And it wasn't until Paradise Lost that we got the concept of Satan ruling Hell--in Donte's work, for example, he was a prisoner.

I think a lot of religious people get Dante's work confused with the Bible. I heard a fundy preacher once say the Satan was God's music minister before he was cast out of heaven.

I challenge anyone to name the book and verse this little tidbit of information came from.

calebprime · 23rd August 2012, 11:32 AM

Ezekiel 28:13b: "The workmanship of your timbrels and pipes was prepared for you on the day you were created."

Verse 14a places Satan at the very throne of God prior to his fall from grace:
“ You were the anointed cherub who covers."

I thought maybe Dante's Purgatorio, but nobody reads that. Milton?

(I should be working. Satan would want me to continue to work on my music.)

eta: Looking this up led me to many fundy posts. Urp.

Dinwar · 23rd August 2012, 11:34 AM

True. Cracked.com did an article on various parts of our view of the Devil that came from outside the Bible, and it amounted to "all of it". The Bible doesn't have much to say on the topic, honestly--a few brief blurbs, and a few cases of mistaken identity (the serpent in Eden, the beast in Revelation, etc) are all that theologians have to go on. The rest is, depending on how you look at it, new revelations postdating the Bible or simply making crap up (often to demonize other religions).

In that way he's probably the most sympathetic character in the Bible--he's a minor, nearly non-existent character that's the victim of the single greatest smear capaign of all time.

Skeptic Ginger · 23rd August 2012, 12:04 PM

Belief in the devil is responsible for great artwork and cool stories.

Vortigern99 · 23rd August 2012, 12:20 PM

69. Led Zeppelin

Polaris · 23rd August 2012, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by Vortigern99

69. Led Zeppelin

That's two reasons.

aggle-rithm · 23rd August 2012, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by calebprime

I thought maybe Dante's Purgatorio, but nobody reads that. Milton?

That's it; Milton. I'm always getting the two confused.

Quote:

(I should be working. Satan would want me to continue to work on my music.)

I wonder what fundies would think of atonal music? Probably make them vomit with rage.

There is so much culture that is completely off their radar. (speaking in general, of course. I'm sure there are exceptions.)

MostlyHarmless · 23rd August 2012, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by padego

He made me do it.

Hey, me too! Well, the first time, the second time I did it on my own.

Hallo Alfie · 23rd August 2012, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by Polaris

That's two reasons.

fuelair · 23rd August 2012, 03:10 PM

Has all the best people!!!

Wolrab · 23rd August 2012, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quinn

ETA: Damn you, Evolved Wookie!

Originally Posted by Dave Rogers

If it weren't for the Devil, you wouldn't be able to.

Dave

Damn or evolve?

Vortigern99 · 23rd August 2012, 03:28 PM

70. Black Sabbath

Corsair 115 · 23rd August 2012, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by Mudcat

He has a fiddle made of gold. /thread

Yes, but it sounds terrible. (At least according to the robot version of him.)

tsig · 23rd August 2012, 07:29 PM

He never makes me feel guilty.

TheRedWorm · 23rd August 2012, 07:56 PM

he's an anagram of that jolly old fat bastard

Elypsis44 · 23rd August 2012, 08:23 PM

There must be something wrong with the guy; Motley Crue shouts at him every chance they get.

Tomtomkent · 24th August 2012, 03:32 AM

His job creation scheme for those with idle hands.

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aggle-rithm Ardent Formulist Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 14,156	Originally Posted by Tomtomkent Who doesn't love the guy? He didn't want his kin subservient to man... So is anti slavery. He wants to disrupt gods plans for the end of days; a plan that involves war in the middle east, suffering, death and forced conversion. He apparently supports sexual liberation, a range of religions, homosexual rights, equal marriage, is pro choice, pro stem cell research, pro GM... He is a force of justice, helping st Paul filter out those evil types to be segregated from heaven. Where would you rather those guys went in the after life? In short a politically progressive liberal who is the governor of a very right wing prison. Why the bad press? It's interesting that in popular culture, the Prince of Darkness seems to be undergoing a transformation into an increasingly sympathetic character. In movies he's often portrayed as having the vital role of keeping the balance between good and evil, as well as having the responsibility of punishing the wicked. I mean, who doesn't want Hitler to be punished?
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23rd August 2012, 10:44 AM	#63
Dinwar Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 8,967	Originally Posted by aggle-rithm It's interesting that in popular culture, the Prince of Darkness seems to be undergoing a transformation into an increasingly sympathetic character. In movies he's often portrayed as having the vital role of keeping the balance between good and evil, as well as having the responsibility of punishing the wicked. I mean, who doesn't want Hitler to be punished? It's actually going back to his roots. Satan originally referred, as I understand it, to any opposition to God--even opposition God himself appointed. The term was a title, not a name, and in the OT God used several during some theologically important instances. Satan wasn't considered evil, merely someone you were supposed to disagree with. If I recall corretly it wasn't until much later that Satan and the Devil and Lucifer and all that were rolled into one character, and that that character was considered evil. And it wasn't until Paradise Lost that we got the concept of Satan ruling Hell--in Donte's work, for example, he was a prisoner.
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23rd August 2012, 10:47 AM	#64
aggle-rithm Ardent Formulist Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 14,156	Originally Posted by Dinwar It's actually going back to his roots. Satan originally referred, as I understand it, to any opposition to God--even opposition God himself appointed. The term was a title, not a name, and in the OT God used several during some theologically important instances. Satan wasn't considered evil, merely someone you were supposed to disagree with. If I recall corretly it wasn't until much later that Satan and the Devil and Lucifer and all that were rolled into one character, and that that character was considered evil. And it wasn't until Paradise Lost that we got the concept of Satan ruling Hell--in Donte's work, for example, he was a prisoner. I think a lot of religious people get Dante's work confused with the Bible. I heard a fundy preacher once say the Satan was God's music minister before he was cast out of heaven. I challenge anyone to name the book and verse this little tidbit of information came from.
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23rd August 2012, 11:34 AM	#66
Dinwar Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 8,967	True. Cracked.com did an article on various parts of our view of the Devil that came from outside the Bible, and it amounted to "all of it". The Bible doesn't have much to say on the topic, honestly--a few brief blurbs, and a few cases of mistaken identity (the serpent in Eden, the beast in Revelation, etc) are all that theologians have to go on. The rest is, depending on how you look at it, new revelations postdating the Bible or simply making crap up (often to demonize other religions). In that way he's probably the most sympathetic character in the Bible--he's a minor, nearly non-existent character that's the victim of the single greatest smear capaign of all time.
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23rd August 2012, 12:43 PM	#69
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23rd August 2012, 01:51 PM	#70
aggle-rithm Ardent Formulist Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 14,156	Originally Posted by calebprime I thought maybe Dante's Purgatorio, but nobody reads that. Milton? That's it; Milton. I'm always getting the two confused. Quote: (I should be working. Satan would want me to continue to work on my music.) I wonder what fundies would think of atonal music? Probably make them vomit with rage. There is so much culture that is completely off their radar. (speaking in general, of course. I'm sure there are exceptions.)
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