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Old 23rd August 2012, 06:41 AM   #361
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Originally Posted by Kumar View Post
...it liked by people at mass in most part of world since long back.

Don't you mean "mass existing in well distributed peoples since long with least adversities"?
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Old 23rd August 2012, 06:46 AM   #362
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Whatever its status in science but it liked by people at mass in most part of world since long back. It is well allowed by govt and many of its agencies with full meical cource and degrees. I can't how all these could happen?
Oh really? Full medical course and degrees? I can give you a course in ******** peddling and give you a degree. What does that mean? Can a homeopath prescribe real medicine? Can a homeopath perform a surgery? Of course not. Yes, in most countries homeopathy enjoys a special status by exempting it from having to prove efficacy and risk/benefit ratio analysis. With one condition. That it doesn't claim that it can cure anything. I wonder why that is.

ETA: Oh, and argumentum ad populum? Most people like it? Well then let's eat ****, billions of flies can't be wrong.

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Old 23rd August 2012, 06:48 AM   #363
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Originally Posted by Mojo View Post
Don't you mean "mass existing in well distributed peoples since long with least adversities"?
I'd like to congratulate you on your mastery of this little-known language!
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Old 23rd August 2012, 10:43 AM   #364
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Originally Posted by Kumar View Post
Whatever its status in science but it liked by people at mass in most part of world since long back. It is well allowed by govt and many of its agencies with full meical cource and degrees. I can't how all these could happen?
Yes Kumar, a most successful scam in many parts of the world.
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Old 23rd August 2012, 12:07 PM   #365
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What I never understand is how homeopaths can rail against the profits of pharmaceutical industries, while at the same time refusing to look at the profits made by homeopathic industries. How expensive IS bottled water? I'm betting a lot less than what they sell it for. Margins must be really good.
If pharmaceutical companies only though of profit we'd ONLY get homeopathic medicine.
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Old 23rd August 2012, 12:30 PM   #366
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It is best to unlearn the habit of referring to homeopathic preparations with "homeopathic medicines".

Homeopathic preparations are NOT medicines, in any way shape or form.
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Old 23rd August 2012, 01:00 PM   #367
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I can't how all these could happen?
Then you need to learn that sick people want to get well!
The advertisements fot homeopathy from Big Homeo makes it attractive for them.
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Old 23rd August 2012, 08:46 PM   #368
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Originally Posted by Mojo View Post
Don't you mean "mass existing in well distributed peoples since long with least adversities"?
Yes, thanks.
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Old 23rd August 2012, 08:48 PM   #369
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Originally Posted by laca View Post
Oh really? Full medical course and degrees? I can give you a course in ******** peddling and give you a degree. What does that mean? Can a homeopath prescribe real medicine? Can a homeopath perform a surgery? Of course not. Yes, in most countries homeopathy enjoys a special status by exempting it from having to prove efficacy and risk/benefit ratio analysis. With one condition. That it doesn't claim that it can cure anything. I wonder why that is.

ETA: Oh, and argumentum ad populum? Most people like it? Well then let's eat ****, billions of flies can't be wrong.
"Real" should first A&F esp if it is attached with side/adverse/toxic effects.
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Old 23rd August 2012, 08:50 PM   #370
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Yes Kumar, a most successful scam in many parts of the world.
Can't say, which is scam---with adversities or with least advesities. Since earning too much, commercial minds can do any scam.
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Old 23rd August 2012, 08:55 PM   #371
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Originally Posted by Reality Check View Post
Then you need to learn that sick people want to get well!
The advertisements fot homeopathy from Big Homeo makes it attractive for them.
Whatever. It is by modern an well educated and been awared, people. I can't imagine that such people in mass can be made/considered as fools.

ANYWAY THESE ARE JUST REPETITIONS AND WASTE OF TIME, SO SHOULD BE AVOIDED. NO SIDE CAN CONVINCE TO EACH OTHER, HENCE I AM DICONTINUING HENCEFORTH.

THANKS AND BYE FOR NOW HERE.
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Old 23rd August 2012, 10:31 PM   #372
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"Real" should first A&F esp if it is attached with side/adverse/toxic effects.
OK Kumar, tell me something that's A&F. Anything that's not purely a mental construct. Just one example would do. Should be easy, right? Since you are so keen on expecting A&F results from medical sciences, you must be holding other activities with possible adverse effects to the same standards, lest you be called hypocrite. Right? Some activities with possible adverse side effects include: eating, drinking, walking, driving a car, flying on an airplane, etc. There's a risk in everything. People usually engage in the activities in which the benefits vastly outweigh the risk. But not you. No, you require A&F. I guess you're not eating then...
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Old 23rd August 2012, 10:37 PM   #373
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Whatever. It is by modern an well educated and been awared, people. I can't imagine that such people in mass can be made/considered as fools.
Well educated people can be fooled too. Most of the time, after seeing the evidence, such people can also be convinced that they have been fooled.

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ANYWAY THESE ARE JUST REPETITIONS AND WASTE OF TIME, SO SHOULD BE AVOIDED. NO SIDE CAN CONVINCE TO EACH OTHER, HENCE I AM DICONTINUING HENCEFORTH.
That's not true. We cannot convince you, because you're impervious to logic, reason and evidence. There's only so much one can do. However, you could convince us easily by providing evidence that homeopathy works. No need to speculate about mechanism. Just provide evidence that it works. Then we'll take it from there.
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Old 23rd August 2012, 11:38 PM   #374
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Whatever its status in science but it liked by people at mass in most part of world since long back. It is well allowed by govt and many of its agencies with full meical cource and degrees. I can't how all these could happen?
Whatever its status four humours theory not science but it liked by people at mass in most part of world since Greeks. It was well allowed by govt and many of its agencies with full meical cource and degrees for many hundred years till 19th. I can't how all these could happen?


How's your bile?

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Old 24th August 2012, 12:31 AM   #375
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Originally Posted by Daylightstar View Post
It is best to unlearn the habit of referring to homeopathic preparations with "homeopathic medicines".

Homeopathic preparations are NOT medicines, in any way shape or form.
A very good point, indeed.


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Can't say, which is scam---with adversities or with least advesities. Since earning too much, commercial minds can do any scam.
Scamming isn't an activity limited to people with lots of money, Kumar.

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Whatever. It is by modern an well educated and been awared, people. I can't imagine that such people in mass can be made/considered as fools.
I can, Kumar. Anyone can be fooled by a clever scammer!
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Old 26th August 2012, 12:38 PM   #376
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Originally Posted by Kumar View Post
Whatever. It is by modern an well educated and been awared, people. I can't imagine that such people in mass can be made/considered as fools.

ANYWAY THESE ARE JUST REPETITIONS AND WASTE OF TIME, SO SHOULD BE AVOIDED. NO SIDE CAN CONVINCE TO EACH OTHER, HENCE I AM DICONTINUING HENCEFORTH.

THANKS AND BYE FOR NOW HERE.
In his own way, Kumar admits defeat yet again.

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Old 26th August 2012, 12:41 PM   #377
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ANYWAY THESE ARE JUST REPETITIONS AND WASTE OF TIME, SO SHOULD BE AVOIDED. NO SIDE CAN CONVINCE TO EACH OTHER, HENCE I AM DICONTINUING HENCEFORTH.
Actually, it'd be pretty easy to convince me. A peer-reviewed, double-blind study ought to do it.

Funny thing about that, though. When folks try to do it, the miraculous benefits of homeopathy tend to vanish. I guess water is like God: neither one likes to perform while being watched?
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Old 26th August 2012, 12:56 PM   #378
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Originally Posted by franklinveaux View Post
Actually, it'd be pretty easy to convince me. A peer-reviewed, double-blind study ought to do it.

Funny thing about that, though. When folks try to do it, the miraculous benefits of homeopathy tend to vanish. I guess water is like God: neither one likes to perform while being watched?
That would be proof indeed although a hard pillule to swallow.
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