[Merged] Nostradamus predict the death of Princess Diana, The Queen, And for the Heir! - Page 29

George152 · 12th November 2012, 12:36 PM

Just saw Charlie boy yesterday and he looks in the best of health.

dafydd · 12th November 2012, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by Rwalsh

The young heir to the British realm, Whom his dying father will have recommended: The latter dead 'Lonole' will dispute with him, And from the son the realm demanded

How can a dead person dispute?

aleCcowaN · 12th November 2012, 04:01 PM

Pempotam towards Lusitania and the dead Lonole will dispute ut supra. I love these verbal Rorschach inkblot tests! Do you have some more, Rwalsh? Lowenstein ... Lowenstein ...

desertgal · 12th November 2012, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by dafydd

How can a dead person dispute?

Psst...you're asking the guy who keeps telling us to ask Nostradamus.

dafydd · 12th November 2012, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by desertgal

Psst...you're asking the guy who keeps telling us to ask Nostradamus.

Ok. Rwalsh, is Nostra on Twitter or Facebook?

SezMe · 12th November 2012, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by dafydd

Ok. Rwalsh, is Nostra on Twitter or Facebook?

Ask and ye shall receive.

Rwalsh · 16th November 2012, 07:24 PM

Rwalsh · 25th January 2013, 11:51 PM

Yesterday during my nightly study. When I was googeling Nostradamus images, paintings of him.
There was one portrait that stood out the most and, what caught my intrest quickly. I questioned the Globe Nostradamus is holding.

I then Began to wonder. What the vertical line, and the round radius object.

So recognizing the shapes of the world. I wanted to figure out EXACTLY on the map it would represent. This is approximate.

But you can see the vertical line, extends into afrika alittle.

And then. As I looked at the map. I noticed that Vertical Line would Approximately, be where I Mention about St. Helena'

So I find a strong connection here in this painting portrait.

Im Somewhat Confident that there is something about St. Helena. I just dont know what. I also question the rooftop of the building behind nostradamus and could be a significant building of this clouded mystery.

Rwalsh · 25th January 2013, 11:57 PM

Or this representation where it shows a larger part of africa and the vertical rule. And you will see that it approximately aligns itself with st.Helena.

I feel there is a reason, and A connection as to why the globe is represented and a obscure and approximate suggestive marker. This painting is a very good source of information I find.

Perhaps. Also... The Equator and where that vertical line comes and intersects falls directing in the vacinity of St. Helena.

I question all aspects of this. And its apprent the information displayed they way it was meant to symbolizes something.

X marks the spot. And my orange dot shows you exactly where st helena is

This painting could very well represent a traveling method by sea travel. plotting a course or whatever type of navigation this globe portrays. The circular radius indicating where they may start there travel. And the vertical line outlaying where they will be sailing in that direction plotting the course. or finding the exact amount of traveling how long it would approximately take to get there.

In the painting i feel he is saying

"Here I will show you where it is, I have instructed my son to paint it exactly the way I wished it to be. So others may understand what is inscribed in the painting in this very globe im holding."

He could have placed that vertical line anywhere else on the globe. But it was instructed to place it there.
Why have the globe portrayed primarily focusing on the Atlantic ocean,.

Rwalsh · 26th January 2013, 12:43 AM

Just googeling on Cesar Nostradamus, Paintings..

Again. You see a portrait with that exact same globe.

Within that Globe. That radius object and that vertical ruler.I think they appear to have numbers inscibed on the metal. Again the globe is exact same perspective in this picture. Cesar also has the book open. And just like the previous portrait. They both use one finger. Again same globe visible.

Dose anybody know what globe they used? Im thinking this globe they used had alot of significance towards its works. The obvious expresion of Cesar here looks like he is calculating. His Eyes alone tell a story, as if he knows exactly what his father has written of the future. And that fur scare around his neck, just like previous picture where Nostradamus is wearing some fur thing around his neck. Perhaps a fashion statement. But the right side shoulder where the fur scarf would of hung is tucked under his right arm.

Seems this picture clearly represents nostradamus taking over his fathers role as seer. Its almost portray as though he has written prophecies himself. The essential tools are all shown. The method they would use to do such works. Escpecially with that globe. Perhaps it really is astrological calculations formula.. But here it clearly shows no such astrological tools in the portraits. only the book and that type of globe.

Here is portrait of Cesar Nostradamus (Globe is bottom right hand side)
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...5_ce_h9_aa.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1.../xir170964.jpg

Craig4 · 26th January 2013, 01:08 AM

Originally Posted by Rwalsh

Or this representation where it shows a larger part of africa and the vertical rule. And you will see that it approximately aligns itself with st.Helena.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...sthelena-1.jpg

I feel there is a reason, and A connection as to why the globe is represented and a obscure and approximate suggestive marker. This painting is a very good source of information I find.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...ostradamus.jpg

Perhaps. Also... The Equator and where that vertical line comes and intersects falls directing in the vacinity of St. Helena.

I question all aspects of this. And its apprent the information displayed they way it was meant to symbolizes something.

X marks the spot. And my orange dot shows you exactly where st helena is

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...lm/equator.jpg

This painting could very well represent a traveling method by sea travel. plotting a course or whatever type of navigation this globe portrays. The circular radius indicating where they may start there travel. And the vertical line outlaying where they will be sailing in that direction plotting the course. or finding the exact amount of traveling how long it would approximately take to get there.

In the painting i feel he is saying

"Here I will show you where it is, I have instructed my son to paint it exactly the way I wished it to be. So others may understand what is inscribed in the painting in this very globe im holding."

He could have placed that vertical line anywhere else on the globe. But it was instructed to place it there.
Why have the globe portrayed primarily focusing on the Atlantic ocean,.

That's not where St. Helena is. It's way off by thousands of miles. It's closer to Sao Tome and Principe.

Rwalsh · 26th January 2013, 01:09 AM

When Christopher Columbus First disovered the earth wasnt flat near the end of the 1500's.

And Nostradamus Coming into this world, in 1504. The Man was literally predicting the world in a time when they discovered the world wasnt flat!!!

Christopher Columbus lived 1451 – 1506. Nostradamus was born in 1504.

I think thats pretty impressive for such new knowledge

Rwalsh · 26th January 2013, 01:11 AM

Originally Posted by Craig4

That's not where St. Helena is. It's way off by thousands of miles. It's closer to Sao Tome and Principe.

True, But I think it was more of a gestrual significance.

The Numbers I gain from my previous charts discribed st.Helena area. And the vertical line exactly extends in that area of st helena.

You could of portraid the angel of the equator someway else perspective wise. In the globe. You are looking slightly down towards the globe. Infact the way nostradamus is holding the glove, is tipped towards the viewer and is not exactly dead on.

If anything. I feel this is just a tease. Escpecially with his big wide eyes and his hidden little smirking smile there,.

Pixel42 · 26th January 2013, 01:14 AM

Originally Posted by Rwalsh

When Christopher Columbus First disovered the earth wasnt flat near the end of the 1500's.

The fact that the earth wasn't flat was known for centuries before Columbus.

ETA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth

Quote:

The paradigm of a spherical Earth was developed in Greek astronomy, beginning with Pythagoras (6th century BC), although most Pre-Socratics retained the flat Earth model. Aristotle accepted the spherical shape of the Earth on empirical grounds around 330 BC, and knowledge of the spherical Earth gradually began to spread beyond the Hellenistic world from then on.[5][6][7][8] The misconception that educated Europeans at the time of Columbus believed in a flat Earth, and that his voyages refuted that belief, has been referred to as the Myth of the Flat Earth.[9] In 1945, it was listed by the Historical Association (of Britain) as the second of 20 in a pamphlet on common errors in history.[10]

dafydd · 26th January 2013, 01:16 AM

Originally Posted by Rwalsh

When Christopher Columbus First disovered the earth wasnt flat near the end of the 1500's.

And Nostradamus Coming into this world, in 1504. The Man was literally predicting the world in a time when they discovered the world wasnt flat!!!

Christopher Columbus lived 1451 – 1506. Nostradamus was born in 1504.

I think thats pretty impressive for such new knowledge

They already knew that the world was round. The ancient Greeks knew that. Eratosthenes calculated the circumference of the Earth.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_Earth

Rwalsh · 26th January 2013, 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by Pixel42

The fact that the earth wasn't flat was known for centuries before Columbus.

ETA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth

Im pretty sure most people would call you a skeptic back then if you told them the earth was round. I think it was accepted into common knowledge at that time where it official been recognized as the earth being round and the discovery of americas and such

nathan · 26th January 2013, 01:38 AM

Originally Posted by Rwalsh

When Christopher Columbus First disovered the earth wasnt flat near the end of the 1500's.

And Nostradamus Coming into this world, in 1504. The Man was literally predicting the world in a time when they discovered the world wasnt flat!!!

oh ffs, no educated person thought the world was flat at that time -- the greeks knew it was round since at least 500BC. Columbus thought the Earth was much smaller than generally agreed. And HE WAS WRONG.

You're really really bad at this research stuff.

ETA: I'm pretty sure you've been told that here before.

Rwalsh · 26th January 2013, 01:44 AM

Okay. Perhaps I am wrong. Sorry. I blame the educational system teaching me that it was christopher columbus who discovered the world wasnt flat.

Im sorry.,

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Craig4 · 26th January 2013, 01:54 AM

Originally Posted by Rwalsh

True, But I think it was more of a gestrual significance.

The Numbers I gain from my previous charts discribed st.Helena area. And the vertical line exactly extends in that area of st helena.

You could of portraid the angel of the equator someway else perspective wise. In the globe. You are looking slightly down towards the globe. Infact the way nostradamus is holding the glove, is tipped towards the viewer and is not exactly dead on.

If anything. I feel this is just a tease. Escpecially with his big wide eyes and his hidden little smirking smile there,.

In other words something in that picture has to point to the Island of St. Helena and you worked backwards from that conclusion to find a reason. After souring the picture you found a reason to justify you belief. Was there any ever doubt in your mind that the picture would support the conclusion you'd already reached when you started looking at it?

Rwalsh · 26th January 2013, 02:00 AM

Originally Posted by Craig4

In other words something in that picture has to point to the Island of St. Helena and you worked backwards from that conclusion to find a reason. After souring the picture you found a reason to justify you belief. Was there any ever doubt in your mind that the picture would support the conclusion you'd already reached when you started looking at it?

From the cannons of Orange Chart and the degrees to where it has pointed out on the map. And the painting, with relation to the degrees in where nostradamus has the vertical rule. Directly in plain sight. Hes clearly showing you something in relation to the globe he is holding., Its within perfect synchronization with st.helena. without a doubt

aleCcowaN · 26th January 2013, 02:01 AM

Don't blame the educational system. Blame the mental health one. And your "fate".

Rwalsh · 26th January 2013, 02:03 AM

Originally Posted by aleCcowaN

Don't blame the educational system. Blame the mental health one. And your "fate".

Thank you Skeptic. Nice to know your animosity is still strong '

dafydd · 26th January 2013, 02:11 AM

Originally Posted by Rwalsh

Okay. Perhaps I am wrong. Sorry. I blame the educational system teaching me that it was christopher columbus who discovered the world wasnt flat.

Im sorry.,

Edited by jhunter1163:

Moderated content removed.

You are wrong. The myth of the flat Earth began with Washington Irving's biography of Columbus.

http://www.veritas-ucsb.org/library/...FlatEarth.html

No need to lose your temper just because somebody doesn't agree with you.

dafydd · 26th January 2013, 02:13 AM

Originally Posted by Rwalsh

Thank you Skeptic. Nice to know your animosity is still strong '

Nostradamus believers always retro fit the ''prophecies''. Please quote me a quatrain the predicts something that will happen in our future, preferably this year.

dafydd · 26th January 2013, 02:15 AM

Originally Posted by Rwalsh

, Its within perfect synchronization with st.helena. without a doubt

No it isn't. ''A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest''.

Rwalsh · 26th January 2013, 02:15 AM

Originally Posted by dafydd

you are wrong. The myth of the flat earth began with washington irving's biography of columbus.

http://www.veritas-ucsb.org/library/...flatearth.html

no need to lose your temper just because somebody doesn't agree with you.

whoooooo cares

now you guys are missing the point about cesars painting./ and the vertical line on the globe in relation to my previous cannons of orange chart discovery of st helena.

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Rwalsh · 26th January 2013, 02:27 AM

I took the liberty to explain how i placed the vertical line from the globe on the map.

I simply approximated the width to which it ran through

dafydd · 26th January 2013, 02:29 AM

Originally Posted by Rwalsh

I took the liberty to explain how i placed the vertical line from the globe on the map.

I simply approximated the width to which it ran through

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...elm/OBJECT.jpg

The width is as wide as Wales.

Rwalsh · 26th January 2013, 02:39 AM

And Nostradamus Coming into this world, in 1504. The Man was literally predicting the world in a time when they discovered the world wasnt flat!!!

Sorry I should of added. "amongst the majority of people who were mostly skeptics who didnt believe the earth was round, and coming into a new age where everyone would adapt to that New Concept."

Im trying to say

Its Impressive in that time frame. To be predicting the worlds outcome, when at a time there were alot of skepticism the earth wasn't round. Nostradamus was beyond conventional wisdom.

dafydd · 26th January 2013, 02:40 AM

Originally Posted by Rwalsh

I dont know myself. But thats what I want to find out

Ok. Look through the quatriains and find one that predicts something that will happen in the near future.

Pixel42 · 26th January 2013, 02:40 AM

Originally Posted by dafydd

Oh no?

No, Rwalsh didn't say Nostradamus predicted a flat earth. You mistyped. Rwalsh said Nostradamus predicted a round earth. Which he didn't, because that was already well known.

Sideroxylon · 26th January 2013, 02:43 AM

Originally Posted by Rwalsh

And Nostradamus Coming into this world, in 1504. The Man was literally predicting the world in a time when they discovered the world wasnt flat!!!

Sorry I should of added. "amongst the majority of people who were mostly skeptics who didnt believe the earth was round, and coming into a new age where everyone would adapt to that New Concept."

That the world was round was well demonstrated in at least the third century BC. Arab and Persian natural philosophers had their own proofs, all of which were well known in Europe by 1504.

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I AGREE

Nostradamus didn't bring us anything new.

Craig4 · 26th January 2013, 02:44 AM

Originally Posted by Rwalsh

From the cannons of Orange Chart and the degrees to where it has pointed out on the map. And the painting, with relation to the degrees in where nostradamus has the vertical rule. Directly in plain sight. Hes clearly showing you something in relation to the globe he is holding., Its within perfect synchronization with st.helena. without a doubt

Did you happen to notice that your globe get's the dimensions of North American and the size of the Atlantic incorrect? You're compare data on a highly accurate satellite imagery derived map to a globe from the midish 1500s. This only proves my point. You needed to associate something in the painting to St. Helena so you did some mental gymnastics and found a way to do it.

dafydd · 26th January 2013, 02:44 AM

Originally Posted by Pixel42

No, Rwalsh didn't say Nostradamus predicted a flat earth. You mistyped. Rwalsh said Nostradamus predicted a round earth. Which he didn't, because that was already well known.

Sorry, I haven't been awake for long. I would like to see a Nostradamus believer point to a future prediction instead of ''predicting'' events after they happen.

dafydd · 26th January 2013, 02:45 AM

Originally Posted by Sideroxylon

Nostradamus didn't bring us anything new.

Except for his jam recipes.

Rwalsh · 26th January 2013, 02:46 AM

Originally Posted by dafydd

Sorry, I haven't been awake for long. I would like to see a Nostradamus believer point to future prediction instead of ''predicting'' events after they happen.

Queen Elizabeth will die at 98. There you go, thats all i got for now. Nostradamus dosnt reveal a whole lot of new information, just dose it bits by bits. months and months till something flares up and im all over it like a lion chasing down a antelope./ Im on it like a lockheed martin missle cuban crisis.

Sideroxylon · 26th January 2013, 02:49 AM

Originally Posted by Rwalsh

Queen Elizabeth will die at 98. There you go, thats all i got for now. Nostradamus dosnt reveal a whole lot of new information, just dose it bits by bits. months and months till something flares up and im all over it like a lion chasing down a antelope./ Im on it like a lockheed martin missle cuban crisis.

From what are you deducing that she will die at 98?

Rwalsh · 26th January 2013, 02:51 AM

Originally Posted by Sideroxylon

From what are you deducing that she will die at 98?

Like I want to tell you everything what we share to one another, Either way it takes alot of great understanding lets put it that way.

dafydd · 26th January 2013, 02:51 AM

Originally Posted by Rwalsh

Queen Elizabeth will die at 98. There you go, thats all i got for now. Nostradamus dosnt reveal a whole lot of new information, just dose it bits by bits. months and months till something flares up and im all over it like a lion chasing down a antelope./ Im on it like a lockheed martin missle cuban crisis.

Only 12 years to go then. Where does old Nostra say that Queen Elizabeth, the Queen of England will die at the age of 98? The rest of your post describes retro fitting. Where did you learn the archaic form of French that Nostra uses? How do you know that your translations are accurate?

Rwalsh · 26th January 2013, 02:53 AM

Originally Posted by dafydd

Only 12 years to go then. Where does old Nostra say that Queen Elizabeth, the Queen of England will die at the age of 98?

I dont wish to comment. But we talked about these things a couple of pages ago. You can see there.

I have looked at hundreds of works. They all seem to be written in close text to one another, they hardly seem to differentiate themselves. With actual reference from the original books. they are similar. The French meaning could throw it off. But again, there is still alot of discription in the meanings, in the words, sylbols. Truly is hard to explain, but I have this language to communicate and understand prophetic things. And I do have the gift of forsight, but very weak at it still,.

Nothing like hundreds of years like nostradamus. He understood the worlds language too common;

From his stand point and the time where they discovered america' Im sure it was a field day for nostradamus to imagine what america would look like 500 years. Obviously overly populated'

Talking about the transformation of the world. The advancements. The wars, the politicians. The countries. And so forth.

12th November 2012, 12:36 PM	#1121
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12th November 2012, 03:33 PM	#1122
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,471	Originally Posted by Rwalsh The young heir to the British realm, Whom his dying father will have recommended: The latter dead 'Lonole' will dispute with him, And from the son the realm demanded How can a dead person dispute?
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12th November 2012, 04:01 PM	#1123
aleCcowaN imperfecto del subjuntivo Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina Posts: 1,742	Pempotam towards Lusitania and the dead Lonole will dispute ut supra. I love these verbal Rorschach inkblot tests! Do you have some more, Rwalsh? Lowenstein ... Lowenstein ...
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12th November 2012, 04:24 PM	#1125
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,471	Originally Posted by desertgal Psst...you're asking the guy who keeps telling us to ask Nostradamus. Ok. Rwalsh, is Nostra on Twitter or Facebook?
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25th January 2013, 11:51 PM	#1128
Rwalsh Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 308	Yesterday during my nightly study. When I was googeling Nostradamus images, paintings of him. There was one portrait that stood out the most and, what caught my intrest quickly. I questioned the Globe Nostradamus is holding. I then Began to wonder. What the vertical line, and the round radius object. So recognizing the shapes of the world. I wanted to figure out EXACTLY on the map it would represent. This is approximate. But you can see the vertical line, extends into afrika alittle. And then. As I looked at the map. I noticed that Vertical Line would Approximately, be where I Mention about St. Helena' So I find a strong connection here in this painting portrait. Im Somewhat Confident that there is something about St. Helena. I just dont know what. I also question the rooftop of the building behind nostradamus and could be a significant building of this clouded mystery.
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12th November 2012, 04:03 PM	#1124
desertgal Illuminator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Virginia City Posts: 3,240	Originally Posted by dafydd How can a dead person dispute? Psst...you're asking the guy who keeps telling us to ask Nostradamus.

12th November 2012, 06:56 PM	#1126
SezMe post-pre-born Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Santa Barbara, CA Posts: 16,369	Originally Posted by dafydd Ok. Rwalsh, is Nostra on Twitter or Facebook? Ask and ye shall receive.

16th November 2012, 07:24 PM	#1127
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25th January 2013, 11:57 PM	#1129
Rwalsh Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 308	Or this representation where it shows a larger part of africa and the vertical rule. And you will see that it approximately aligns itself with st.Helena. I feel there is a reason, and A connection as to why the globe is represented and a obscure and approximate suggestive marker. This painting is a very good source of information I find. Perhaps. Also... The Equator and where that vertical line comes and intersects falls directing in the vacinity of St. Helena. I question all aspects of this. And its apprent the information displayed they way it was meant to symbolizes something. X marks the spot. And my orange dot shows you exactly where st helena is This painting could very well represent a traveling method by sea travel. plotting a course or whatever type of navigation this globe portrays. The circular radius indicating where they may start there travel. And the vertical line outlaying where they will be sailing in that direction plotting the course. or finding the exact amount of traveling how long it would approximately take to get there. In the painting i feel he is saying "Here I will show you where it is, I have instructed my son to paint it exactly the way I wished it to be. So others may understand what is inscribed in the painting in this very globe im holding." He could have placed that vertical line anywhere else on the globe. But it was instructed to place it there. Why have the globe portrayed primarily focusing on the Atlantic ocean,.
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26th January 2013, 12:43 AM	#1130
Rwalsh Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 308	Just googeling on Cesar Nostradamus, Paintings.. Again. You see a portrait with that exact same globe. Within that Globe. That radius object and that vertical ruler.I think they appear to have numbers inscibed on the metal. Again the globe is exact same perspective in this picture. Cesar also has the book open. And just like the previous portrait. They both use one finger. Again same globe visible. Dose anybody know what globe they used? Im thinking this globe they used had alot of significance towards its works. The obvious expresion of Cesar here looks like he is calculating. His Eyes alone tell a story, as if he knows exactly what his father has written of the future. And that fur scare around his neck, just like previous picture where Nostradamus is wearing some fur thing around his neck. Perhaps a fashion statement. But the right side shoulder where the fur scarf would of hung is tucked under his right arm. Seems this picture clearly represents nostradamus taking over his fathers role as seer. Its almost portray as though he has written prophecies himself. The essential tools are all shown. The method they would use to do such works. Escpecially with that globe. Perhaps it really is astrological calculations formula.. But here it clearly shows no such astrological tools in the portraits. only the book and that type of globe. Here is portrait of Cesar Nostradamus (Globe is bottom right hand side) http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...5_ce_h9_aa.jpg http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1.../xir170964.jpg
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26th January 2013, 01:08 AM	#1131
Craig4 Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 5,363	Originally Posted by Rwalsh Or this representation where it shows a larger part of africa and the vertical rule. And you will see that it approximately aligns itself with st.Helena. http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...sthelena-1.jpg I feel there is a reason, and A connection as to why the globe is represented and a obscure and approximate suggestive marker. This painting is a very good source of information I find. http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...ostradamus.jpg Perhaps. Also... The Equator and where that vertical line comes and intersects falls directing in the vacinity of St. Helena. I question all aspects of this. And its apprent the information displayed they way it was meant to symbolizes something. X marks the spot. And my orange dot shows you exactly where st helena is http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...lm/equator.jpg This painting could very well represent a traveling method by sea travel. plotting a course or whatever type of navigation this globe portrays. The circular radius indicating where they may start there travel. And the vertical line outlaying where they will be sailing in that direction plotting the course. or finding the exact amount of traveling how long it would approximately take to get there. In the painting i feel he is saying "Here I will show you where it is, I have instructed my son to paint it exactly the way I wished it to be. So others may understand what is inscribed in the painting in this very globe im holding." He could have placed that vertical line anywhere else on the globe. But it was instructed to place it there. Why have the globe portrayed primarily focusing on the Atlantic ocean,. That's not where St. Helena is. It's way off by thousands of miles. It's closer to Sao Tome and Principe.
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26th January 2013, 01:09 AM	#1132
Rwalsh Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 308	When Christopher Columbus First disovered the earth wasnt flat near the end of the 1500's. And Nostradamus Coming into this world, in 1504. The Man was literally predicting the world in a time when they discovered the world wasnt flat!!! Christopher Columbus lived 1451 – 1506. Nostradamus was born in 1504. I think thats pretty impressive for such new knowledge

26th January 2013, 01:11 AM	#1133
Rwalsh Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 308	Originally Posted by Craig4 That's not where St. Helena is. It's way off by thousands of miles. It's closer to Sao Tome and Principe. True, But I think it was more of a gestrual significance. The Numbers I gain from my previous charts discribed st.Helena area. And the vertical line exactly extends in that area of st helena. You could of portraid the angel of the equator someway else perspective wise. In the globe. You are looking slightly down towards the globe. Infact the way nostradamus is holding the glove, is tipped towards the viewer and is not exactly dead on. If anything. I feel this is just a tease. Escpecially with his big wide eyes and his hidden little smirking smile there,.
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26th January 2013, 01:14 AM	#1134
Pixel42 Schrödinger's cat Join Date: May 2004 Location: Wiltshire, UK Posts: 4,238	Originally Posted by Rwalsh When Christopher Columbus First disovered the earth wasnt flat near the end of the 1500's. The fact that the earth wasn't flat was known for centuries before Columbus. ETA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth Quote: The paradigm of a spherical Earth was developed in Greek astronomy, beginning with Pythagoras (6th century BC), although most Pre-Socratics retained the flat Earth model. Aristotle accepted the spherical shape of the Earth on empirical grounds around 330 BC, and knowledge of the spherical Earth gradually began to spread beyond the Hellenistic world from then on.[5][6][7][8] The misconception that educated Europeans at the time of Columbus believed in a flat Earth, and that his voyages refuted that belief, has been referred to as the Myth of the Flat Earth.[9] In 1945, it was listed by the Historical Association (of Britain) as the second of 20 in a pamphlet on common errors in history.[10]
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26th January 2013, 01:16 AM	#1135
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,471	Originally Posted by Rwalsh When Christopher Columbus First disovered the earth wasnt flat near the end of the 1500's. And Nostradamus Coming into this world, in 1504. The Man was literally predicting the world in a time when they discovered the world wasnt flat!!! Christopher Columbus lived 1451 – 1506. Nostradamus was born in 1504. I think thats pretty impressive for such new knowledge They already knew that the world was round. The ancient Greeks knew that. Eratosthenes calculated the circumference of the Earth. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_Earth
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26th January 2013, 01:17 AM	#1136
Rwalsh Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 308	Originally Posted by Pixel42 The fact that the earth wasn't flat was known for centuries before Columbus. ETA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth Im pretty sure most people would call you a skeptic back then if you told them the earth was round. I think it was accepted into common knowledge at that time where it official been recognized as the earth being round and the discovery of americas and such
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26th January 2013, 01:38 AM	#1137
nathan Zygoticly Phased Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Arkham City Posts: 3,161	Originally Posted by Rwalsh When Christopher Columbus First disovered the earth wasnt flat near the end of the 1500's. And Nostradamus Coming into this world, in 1504. The Man was literally predicting the world in a time when they discovered the world wasnt flat!!! oh ffs, no educated person thought the world was flat at that time -- the greeks knew it was round since at least 500BC. Columbus thought the Earth was much smaller than generally agreed. And HE WAS WRONG. You're really really bad at this research stuff. ETA: I'm pretty sure you've been told that here before.
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26th January 2013, 01:54 AM	#1139
Craig4 Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 5,363	Originally Posted by Rwalsh True, But I think it was more of a gestrual significance. The Numbers I gain from my previous charts discribed st.Helena area. And the vertical line exactly extends in that area of st helena. You could of portraid the angel of the equator someway else perspective wise. In the globe. You are looking slightly down towards the globe. Infact the way nostradamus is holding the glove, is tipped towards the viewer and is not exactly dead on. If anything. I feel this is just a tease. Escpecially with his big wide eyes and his hidden little smirking smile there,. In other words something in that picture has to point to the Island of St. Helena and you worked backwards from that conclusion to find a reason. After souring the picture you found a reason to justify you belief. Was there any ever doubt in your mind that the picture would support the conclusion you'd already reached when you started looking at it?
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26th January 2013, 02:00 AM	#1140
Rwalsh Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 308	Originally Posted by Craig4 In other words something in that picture has to point to the Island of St. Helena and you worked backwards from that conclusion to find a reason. After souring the picture you found a reason to justify you belief. Was there any ever doubt in your mind that the picture would support the conclusion you'd already reached when you started looking at it? From the cannons of Orange Chart and the degrees to where it has pointed out on the map. And the painting, with relation to the degrees in where nostradamus has the vertical rule. Directly in plain sight. Hes clearly showing you something in relation to the globe he is holding., Its within perfect synchronization with st.helena. without a doubt

26th January 2013, 02:01 AM	#1141
aleCcowaN imperfecto del subjuntivo Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina Posts: 1,742	Don't blame the educational system. Blame the mental health one. And your "fate".
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26th January 2013, 02:03 AM	#1142
Rwalsh Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 308	Originally Posted by aleCcowaN Don't blame the educational system. Blame the mental health one. And your "fate". Thank you Skeptic. Nice to know your animosity is still strong '

26th January 2013, 02:13 AM	#1144
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,471	Originally Posted by Rwalsh Thank you Skeptic. Nice to know your animosity is still strong ' Nostradamus believers always retro fit the ''prophecies''. Please quote me a quatrain the predicts something that will happen in our future, preferably this year.
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26th January 2013, 02:15 AM	#1145
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,471	Originally Posted by Rwalsh , Its within perfect synchronization with st.helena. without a doubt No it isn't. ''A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest''.
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26th January 2013, 02:27 AM	#1147
Rwalsh Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 308	I took the liberty to explain how i placed the vertical line from the globe on the map. I simply approximated the width to which it ran through

26th January 2013, 02:29 AM	#1148
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,471	Originally Posted by Rwalsh I took the liberty to explain how i placed the vertical line from the globe on the map. I simply approximated the width to which it ran through http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...elm/OBJECT.jpg The width is as wide as Wales.
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26th January 2013, 02:39 AM	#1149
Rwalsh Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 308	And Nostradamus Coming into this world, in 1504. The Man was literally predicting the world in a time when they discovered the world wasnt flat!!! Sorry I should of added. "amongst the majority of people who were mostly skeptics who didnt believe the earth was round, and coming into a new age where everyone would adapt to that New Concept." Im trying to say Its Impressive in that time frame. To be predicting the worlds outcome, when at a time there were alot of skepticism the earth wasn't round. Nostradamus was beyond conventional wisdom.
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26th January 2013, 02:40 AM	#1150
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,471	Originally Posted by Rwalsh I dont know myself. But thats what I want to find out Ok. Look through the quatriains and find one that predicts something that will happen in the near future.
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26th January 2013, 02:40 AM	#1151
Pixel42 Schrödinger's cat Join Date: May 2004 Location: Wiltshire, UK Posts: 4,238	Originally Posted by dafydd Oh no? No, Rwalsh didn't say Nostradamus predicted a flat earth. You mistyped. Rwalsh said Nostradamus predicted a round earth. Which he didn't, because that was already well known.
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26th January 2013, 02:44 AM	#1153
Craig4 Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 5,363	Originally Posted by Rwalsh From the cannons of Orange Chart and the degrees to where it has pointed out on the map. And the painting, with relation to the degrees in where nostradamus has the vertical rule. Directly in plain sight. Hes clearly showing you something in relation to the globe he is holding., Its within perfect synchronization with st.helena. without a doubt Did you happen to notice that your globe get's the dimensions of North American and the size of the Atlantic incorrect? You're compare data on a highly accurate satellite imagery derived map to a globe from the midish 1500s. This only proves my point. You needed to associate something in the painting to St. Helena so you did some mental gymnastics and found a way to do it.
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26th January 2013, 02:44 AM	#1154
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,471	Originally Posted by Pixel42 No, Rwalsh didn't say Nostradamus predicted a flat earth. You mistyped. Rwalsh said Nostradamus predicted a round earth. Which he didn't, because that was already well known. Sorry, I haven't been awake for long. I would like to see a Nostradamus believer point to a future prediction instead of ''predicting'' events after they happen.
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26th January 2013, 02:45 AM	#1155
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,471	Originally Posted by Sideroxylon Nostradamus didn't bring us anything new. Except for his jam recipes.
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26th January 2013, 02:46 AM	#1156
Rwalsh Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 308	Originally Posted by dafydd Sorry, I haven't been awake for long. I would like to see a Nostradamus believer point to future prediction instead of ''predicting'' events after they happen. Queen Elizabeth will die at 98. There you go, thats all i got for now. Nostradamus dosnt reveal a whole lot of new information, just dose it bits by bits. months and months till something flares up and im all over it like a lion chasing down a antelope./ Im on it like a lockheed martin missle cuban crisis.

26th January 2013, 02:49 AM	#1157
Sideroxylon Gavagai! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Turkey Posts: 10,627	Originally Posted by Rwalsh Queen Elizabeth will die at 98. There you go, thats all i got for now. Nostradamus dosnt reveal a whole lot of new information, just dose it bits by bits. months and months till something flares up and im all over it like a lion chasing down a antelope./ Im on it like a lockheed martin missle cuban crisis. From what are you deducing that she will die at 98?
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26th January 2013, 02:51 AM	#1158
Rwalsh Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 308	Originally Posted by Sideroxylon From what are you deducing that she will die at 98? Like I want to tell you everything what we share to one another, Either way it takes alot of great understanding lets put it that way.

26th January 2013, 02:51 AM	#1159
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,471	Originally Posted by Rwalsh Queen Elizabeth will die at 98. There you go, thats all i got for now. Nostradamus dosnt reveal a whole lot of new information, just dose it bits by bits. months and months till something flares up and im all over it like a lion chasing down a antelope./ Im on it like a lockheed martin missle cuban crisis. Only 12 years to go then. Where does old Nostra say that Queen Elizabeth, the Queen of England will die at the age of 98? The rest of your post describes retro fitting. Where did you learn the archaic form of French that Nostra uses? How do you know that your translations are accurate?
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