Bigsploitation: The Making and Selling of Bigfoot - Page 12

RedRatSnake · 23rd November 2012, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by William Parcher

What is the independent documentation that any gun was discharged? Is this all about people believing what other people said?

It sure seems it, I think it is all BS. But it is fun talking about it

Jodie · 23rd November 2012, 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by William Parcher

What is the independent documentation that any gun was discharged? Is this all about people believing what other people said?

It is what Bipto said in the OP thread on the BFF, assuming you can trust what he is telling about what happens out there. You'ld have to look to see if there was any complaints of firearms discharged in the area in the middle of the night to be sure, assuming anyone would report that as a nuisance. Considering that he also said that some of the participants had elephant guns, I would imagine it would attract notice if it didn't sound like other firearms.

William Parcher · 23rd November 2012, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by Jodie

It is what Bipto said in the OP thread on the BFF, assuming you can trust what he is telling about what happens out there. You'ld have to look to see if there was any complaints of firearms discharged in the area in the middle of the night to be sure, assuming anyone would report that as a nuisance. Considering that he also said that some of the participants had elephant guns, I would imagine it would attract notice if it didn't sound like other firearms.

I thought you would have already confirmed all those things before telling the JREF that guns were fired.

Jodie · 23rd November 2012, 05:11 PM

Well I guess I failed, INFJ's are not good with details, and when they are focused on them it's usually the most unimportant ones.

RedRatSnake · 23rd November 2012, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by William Parcher

I thought you would have already confirmed all those things before telling the JREF that guns were fired.

Is this an Investigation ??? Perhaps we should all just quit posting until we all have ~~better~~ certain proof of the lies we can't prove cause of all the lies from the perpetrators of this hoax.

GT/CS · 23rd November 2012, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by Jodie

It is what Bipto said in the OP thread on the BFF, assuming you can trust what he is telling about what happens out there. You'ld have to look to see if there was any complaints of firearms discharged in the area in the middle of the night to be sure, assuming anyone would report that as a nuisance. Considering that he also said that some of the participants had elephant guns, I would imagine it would attract notice if it didn't sound like other firearms.

Reading Bipto's responses over there makes we wonder how anyone can believe any of it. He's obviously making it up as he goes along.

parnassus · 23rd November 2012, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by Jodie

I have to admit I never got into all of the gory detail about what a bigfoot would need but I do know a bit about physiology and what a body, any body, would need based on it's size. Grizzlies might have ranged all over the area in certain seasons but I bet they stayed near water sources during the drier months. Everything needs water. When ABP was looking at the potential site I didn't see that it was close to a lake or any rivers, if he is right about the area, then it has to be a person responsible for everything because it's too far away from a steady water supply. That means other animals that could be misidentified would limit their range also for the same reason.

gorillas in the wild rarely drink water because of the amount of fluid contained in their diet. That is a fact.

Of course, the "bigfoot" of popular folklore needs none, because it isn't a real animal. It's a fiction.

One can make up anything about a mythical beast and never be proven wrong. "Bigfoot" might be postulated to need 200 gallons a day, or none. Depends on what the bleever needs. No one knows, because there is nothing to know. .. Need a bigfoot to swim? no problem. Need bigfoot to throw rocks? no problem. Need bigfoot to have a language? no problem.

Jodie, I really wonder why you seem to continue treating this mythical beast as if it were a real animal. Bigfoot lives only in the minds of the bleevers. (that would make a good Tshirt...)

RedRatSnake · 23rd November 2012, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by GT/CS

Reading Bipto's responses over there makes we wonder how anyone can believe any of it. He's obviously making it up as he goes along.

His posts are based on people trusting him ( and they do ) so he has the advantage, sure can't get any real answers from the guy, so it will go on until he or one of his team slips up, or someone from the BFF steps up and calls this out without getting banned for blasphemy.

Jodie · 23rd November 2012, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by parnassus

gorillas in the wild rarely drink water because of the amount of fluid contained in their diet. That is a fact.

Of course, the "bigfoot" of popular folklore needs none, because it isn't a real animal. It's a fiction.

One can make up anything about a mythical beast and never be proven wrong. "Bigfoot" might be postulated to need 200 gallons a day, or none. Depends on what the bleever needs. No one knows, because there is nothing to know. .. Need a bigfoot to swim? no problem. Need bigfoot to throw rocks? no problem. Need bigfoot to have a language? no problem.

Jodie, I really wonder why you seem to continue treating this mythical beast as if it were a real animal. Bigfoot lives only in the minds of the bleevers. (that would make a good Tshirt...)

I agree but I tend to notice the inconsistencies with what they promote as fact. If bigfoot was eating all of the vegetation needed to support himself to justify the lack of fluid intake it would be obvious.

RedRatSnake · 23rd November 2012, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by parnassus

gorillas in the wild rarely drink water because of the amount of fluid contained in their diet. That is a fact.

Of course, the "bigfoot" of popular folklore needs none, because it isn't a real animal. It's a fiction.

One can make up anything about a mythical beast and never be proven wrong. "Bigfoot" might be postulated to need 200 gallons a day, or none. Depends on what the bleever needs. No one knows, because there is nothing to know. .. Need a bigfoot to swim? no problem. Need bigfoot to throw rocks? no problem. Need bigfoot to have a language? no problem.

This is what sends me to the floor LMAO, Think of a situation no matter how bleak! and BF can do it. hahahahahaha
I wish the Japanese had a tv show about BF back in the 60s like the old "Ultraman" it would have been a blast.

The Shrike · 24th November 2012, 05:57 AM

Oh I'm sure I made the case multiple times on the BFF that bigfoots would have to be at least facultatively "riparian". So? Are there no other riparian species in the South because it gets pretty hot there sometimes?

Animals move. If there's a family of bigfoots at the Operation Persistence cabin - and they can avoid months of surveillance and 7(!) attempts on their lives from the consummate professionals involved in that ~~debacle~~ endeavor - then I'm sure such creatures are capable of walking downhill for a bit to get a drink when they need one.

Jodie · 24th November 2012, 06:44 AM

But a "bit" is a good little distance from a stable water source, Shrike, based on where ABP pin pointed the likely spot for the location of OP, unless of course their wood ape is more akin to a goat. <sarcasm> Besides the obvious absurdity of the whole situation, their claims of constant activity aren't realistic for that reason IMO.

The riparian species here hug the water sources in extreme heat, that's all I'm saying, then they start moving in October (both bear and deer) when rainfall picks up. North Georgia, where there are a high number of bigfoot sightings, has the same set of circumstances; climate, elevations, and drought issues, yet their sightings dwindle in the summer months. In my mind that makes misidentification of deer and bear less likely as an out for an excuse and hoaxing by the members or outsiders more likely.

Sonny2 · 24th November 2012, 07:48 AM

A bunch of posts got moved somewhere or deleted. Where'd they go??

RedRatSnake · 24th November 2012, 08:00 AM

Right here ~http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=248283

Sonny2 · 24th November 2012, 08:14 AM

Well, OK. Thanks, Slo

clayflingythingy · 24th November 2012, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by Jodie

...while I was still giving Kathy the benefit of the doubt...

Please elaborate. You were quite offended when I dismissed Kathy's claims as an out and out lie. If you no longer give Kathy the benefit of the doubt, just [i]what[i] do you think of her claim now?

clayflingythingy · 24th November 2012, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by GT/CS

Reading Bipto's responses over there makes we wonder how anyone can believe any of it. He's obviously making it up as he goes along.

I totally agree and am baffled why anyone would think this is an elaborate 3rd party hoax.

LashL · 24th November 2012, 10:25 AM

I've moved some posts discussing Ketchum and her bigfoot DNA 'paper' to the Bigfoot DNA thread. Please keep that discussion in that thread. Thank you in advance for your anticipated cooperation.

Posted By:LashL

tsig · 24th November 2012, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by Sonny2

This is kind of old news, but funny in a British sort of way:

http://www.popehat.com/2012/06/21/if...-does-he-have/

This could not stand. Johnsen had no choice but to defend his reputation. Duels having sadly fallen out of favor — for let me assure you, a duel between experienced Bigfoot hunters is a thing of grave and terrible majesty

One dark night, in the middle of the day.
Two dead footers went out to play.
Back to back, they faced one another,
Drew their swords and shot one another.
A deaf policeman heard the noise,
And came to kill! The two dead boys.
If you don't believe my stories true,
Ask the blind man...He saw it too.

http://quizilla.teennick.com/poems/1...e-of-the-night

tsig · 24th November 2012, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by Sonny2

"Do bears carry their own canteens?"

Not canteens, Camelbaks.

I saw a picture of a bear out in the desert - it was stuck in a pothole trying to get a drink from what little water was in there. Some hikers helped it get out with a long branch.

If bears can navigate the desert, then surely Bigfoot can live in the Ouachitas.*

(*Footer logic)

Big foot is an all weather, all terrain animal.

parnassus · 24th November 2012, 12:53 PM

more on the NY story:

It made me laugh, but actually I find it rather sad.

mikeyx · 24th November 2012, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by StankApe

apparently this guy:

https://www.facebook.com/pancakes.suck

touche!

Sonny2 · 24th November 2012, 06:09 PM

Where did the pancakes and garlic stories get started, anyway? Some habituation story?

RedRatSnake · 24th November 2012, 06:32 PM

Janice Carter said her BF friend " fox" liked them. She was a blast to talk with, I think you would have liked her ~ Sonny ~ you have the right kind of
Demeanor and she would have taken to Ya

Jodie · 24th November 2012, 06:35 PM

I wonder if she made it up or if she really saw Fox? Kind of like Jimmy Stewart's Harvey that was 6'4".

RedRatSnake · 24th November 2012, 06:42 PM

You have to check her claim out, it is a pretty good read, here is one site that I have always liked but there are a few more, it was a really big deal back in the day.
http://www.prairieghosts.com/carter_farm.html

Sonny2 · 24th November 2012, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by Slocie's

Janice Carter said her BF friend " fox" liked them. She was a blast to talk with, I think you would have liked her ~ Sonny ~ you have the right kind of
Demeanor and she would have taken to Ya

LOL, I hope that's a compliment.

StankApe · 24th November 2012, 06:47 PM

I remember seeing her on a few old documentaries doing her "fox" voice and such, she was obviously suffering from schizophrenia. I think she believed what she was seeing at first, and then embellished it more because it got her attention. (I was convinced Sasfooty was Janice for the longest time. same demeanor and descriptions).

RedRatSnake · 24th November 2012, 06:51 PM

Yes it is

I got along with her very well, you just had to play along and be nice, most we're just too abrasive and smart ass so she would not talk at all.
Her story is worth reading cause it helps one understand the BF beelevers mind set.

RedRatSnake · 24th November 2012, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by StankApe

(I was convinced Sasfooty was Janice for the longest time. same demeanor and descriptions).

I thought the same also at times. I don't think she was but as you know on this thing it can be hard, JC made many references to Indian culture and such, I don't remember SF using stuff like that, JC seemed to have more of a child's kinda mind, very simple and playful, lot's like fantasy.

Sonny2 · 24th November 2012, 07:01 PM

Interesting article, Slocie's.

Why would a researcher invest 3000 dollars to feed unseen creatures? Why would a researcher claim to use the Jane Goodall approach without having subjects to study? How could an untrained individual translate an unknown language with abstract ideas? How could there be not one clear photograph? And other than a witness or two, how could an entire county, including police and close neighbors, never, in fifty years, see a bigfoot? How could a bigfoot clan live, breed, eat and die in this open location without leaving scores of undeniable evidence?

COGrizzly · 24th November 2012, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by The Shrike

Oh I'm sure I made the case multiple times on the BFF that bigfoots would have to be at least facultatively "riparian". So? Are there no other riparian species in the South because it gets pretty hot there sometimes?

Animals move. If there's a family of bigfoots at the Operation Persistence cabin - and they can avoid months of surveillance and 7(!) attempts on their lives from the consummate professionals involved in that ~~debacle~~ endeavor - then I'm sure such creatures are capable of walking downhill for a bit to get a drink when they need one.

Haven't seen you over at the BFF at all on this latest thingy. I'd certainly like to see a comment or 2 from you. Because I truly respect your opinion.

Seen this sort of thing many times before and am certainly not "accepting" anything....until I see a body.

Sonny2 · 24th November 2012, 08:24 PM

Grizz has seen a lot of supposed proof over on BFF and ain't taking any chances - he's a wise man.

jerrywayne · 24th November 2012, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by Jodie

I wonder if she made it up or if she really saw Fox? Kind of like Jimmy Stewart's Harvey that was 6'4".

Six foot, three and a half. Let's stick to the facts. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvfXvW2wsuQ

Jodie · 24th November 2012, 08:48 PM

LOLOL....ok I will give you a 1/2 inch.

RedRatSnake · 26th November 2012, 08:13 PM

I am sure the web site hits are way up for the BHB ( BigfootHybridBeelevers)

Wonder if sales of BF toys and such are doing better ? Think "Fisher Price" Or "Amazon" Etc : Have seen an increase just in time for the Christmas Season.

Sonny2 · 26th November 2012, 08:16 PM

I heard the ACLU is trying to contact them about making sure their rights aren't being violated...

23rd November 2012, 05:03 PM	#442
Jodie Graduate Poster Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,919	Originally Posted by William Parcher What is the independent documentation that any gun was discharged? Is this all about people believing what other people said? It is what Bipto said in the OP thread on the BFF, assuming you can trust what he is telling about what happens out there. You'ld have to look to see if there was any complaints of firearms discharged in the area in the middle of the night to be sure, assuming anyone would report that as a nuisance. Considering that he also said that some of the participants had elephant guns, I would imagine it would attract notice if it didn't sound like other firearms.
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23rd November 2012, 05:09 PM	#443
William Parcher Show me the monkey! Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 8,530	Originally Posted by Jodie It is what Bipto said in the OP thread on the BFF, assuming you can trust what he is telling about what happens out there. You'ld have to look to see if there was any complaints of firearms discharged in the area in the middle of the night to be sure, assuming anyone would report that as a nuisance. Considering that he also said that some of the participants had elephant guns, I would imagine it would attract notice if it didn't sound like other firearms. I thought you would have already confirmed all those things before telling the JREF that guns were fired.
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23rd November 2012, 05:11 PM	#444
Jodie Graduate Poster Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,919	Well I guess I failed, INFJ's are not good with details, and when they are focused on them it's usually the most unimportant ones.
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23rd November 2012, 05:29 PM	#446
GT/CS Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,626	Originally Posted by Jodie It is what Bipto said in the OP thread on the BFF, assuming you can trust what he is telling about what happens out there. You'ld have to look to see if there was any complaints of firearms discharged in the area in the middle of the night to be sure, assuming anyone would report that as a nuisance. Considering that he also said that some of the participants had elephant guns, I would imagine it would attract notice if it didn't sound like other firearms. Reading Bipto's responses over there makes we wonder how anyone can believe any of it. He's obviously making it up as he goes along.
GT/CS Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,626	__________________ SweatyYeti or Bill Munns would be my vote for looking at this - BFSleuth @ BFF I've got plenty of common sense! I just choose to ignore it. - Calvin; October 15, 1986

23rd November 2012, 05:35 PM	#447
parnassus Master Poster Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: California Posts: 2,565	Originally Posted by Jodie I have to admit I never got into all of the gory detail about what a bigfoot would need but I do know a bit about physiology and what a body, any body, would need based on it's size. Grizzlies might have ranged all over the area in certain seasons but I bet they stayed near water sources during the drier months. Everything needs water. When ABP was looking at the potential site I didn't see that it was close to a lake or any rivers, if he is right about the area, then it has to be a person responsible for everything because it's too far away from a steady water supply. That means other animals that could be misidentified would limit their range also for the same reason. gorillas in the wild rarely drink water because of the amount of fluid contained in their diet. That is a fact. Of course, the "bigfoot" of popular folklore needs none, because it isn't a real animal. It's a fiction. One can make up anything about a mythical beast and never be proven wrong. "Bigfoot" might be postulated to need 200 gallons a day, or none. Depends on what the bleever needs. No one knows, because there is nothing to know. .. Need a bigfoot to swim? no problem. Need bigfoot to throw rocks? no problem. Need bigfoot to have a language? no problem. Jodie, I really wonder why you seem to continue treating this mythical beast as if it were a real animal. Bigfoot lives only in the minds of the bleevers. (that would make a good Tshirt...)
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23rd November 2012, 04:59 PM	#441
RedRatSnake Slithering Through life Join Date: May 2008 Location: Southie, Massachusetts. Posts: 1,625	Originally Posted by William Parcher What is the independent documentation that any gun was discharged? Is this all about people believing what other people said? It sure seems it, I think it is all BS. But it is fun talking about it

23rd November 2012, 05:19 PM	#445
RedRatSnake Slithering Through life Join Date: May 2008 Location: Southie, Massachusetts. Posts: 1,625	Originally Posted by William Parcher I thought you would have already confirmed all those things before telling the JREF that guns were fired. Is this an Investigation ??? Perhaps we should all just quit posting until we all have ~~better~~ certain proof of the lies we can't prove cause of all the lies from the perpetrators of this hoax.

23rd November 2012, 05:37 PM	#448
RedRatSnake Slithering Through life Join Date: May 2008 Location: Southie, Massachusetts. Posts: 1,625	Originally Posted by GT/CS Reading Bipto's responses over there makes we wonder how anyone can believe any of it. He's obviously making it up as he goes along. His posts are based on people trusting him ( and they do ) so he has the advantage, sure can't get any real answers from the guy, so it will go on until he or one of his team slips up, or someone from the BFF steps up and calls this out without getting banned for blasphemy.

23rd November 2012, 05:40 PM	#449
Jodie Graduate Poster Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,919	Originally Posted by parnassus gorillas in the wild rarely drink water because of the amount of fluid contained in their diet. That is a fact. Of course, the "bigfoot" of popular folklore needs none, because it isn't a real animal. It's a fiction. One can make up anything about a mythical beast and never be proven wrong. "Bigfoot" might be postulated to need 200 gallons a day, or none. Depends on what the bleever needs. No one knows, because there is nothing to know. .. Need a bigfoot to swim? no problem. Need bigfoot to throw rocks? no problem. Need bigfoot to have a language? no problem. Jodie, I really wonder why you seem to continue treating this mythical beast as if it were a real animal. Bigfoot lives only in the minds of the bleevers. (that would make a good Tshirt...) I agree but I tend to notice the inconsistencies with what they promote as fact. If bigfoot was eating all of the vegetation needed to support himself to justify the lack of fluid intake it would be obvious.
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23rd November 2012, 05:44 PM	#450
RedRatSnake Slithering Through life Join Date: May 2008 Location: Southie, Massachusetts. Posts: 1,625	Originally Posted by parnassus gorillas in the wild rarely drink water because of the amount of fluid contained in their diet. That is a fact. Of course, the "bigfoot" of popular folklore needs none, because it isn't a real animal. It's a fiction. One can make up anything about a mythical beast and never be proven wrong. "Bigfoot" might be postulated to need 200 gallons a day, or none. Depends on what the bleever needs. No one knows, because there is nothing to know. .. Need a bigfoot to swim? no problem. Need bigfoot to throw rocks? no problem. Need bigfoot to have a language? no problem. This is what sends me to the floor LMAO, Think of a situation no matter how bleak! and BF can do it. hahahahahaha I wish the Japanese had a tv show about BF back in the 60s like the old "Ultraman" it would have been a blast.

24th November 2012, 05:57 AM	#451
The Shrike Graduate Poster Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: USA Posts: 1,836	Oh I'm sure I made the case multiple times on the BFF that bigfoots would have to be at least facultatively "riparian". So? Are there no other riparian species in the South because it gets pretty hot there sometimes? Animals move. If there's a family of bigfoots at the Operation Persistence cabin - and they can avoid months of surveillance and 7(!) attempts on their lives from the consummate professionals involved in that ~~debacle~~ endeavor - then I'm sure such creatures are capable of walking downhill for a bit to get a drink when they need one.

24th November 2012, 06:44 AM	#452
Jodie Graduate Poster Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,919	But a "bit" is a good little distance from a stable water source, Shrike, based on where ABP pin pointed the likely spot for the location of OP, unless of course their wood ape is more akin to a goat. <sarcasm> Besides the obvious absurdity of the whole situation, their claims of constant activity aren't realistic for that reason IMO. The riparian species here hug the water sources in extreme heat, that's all I'm saying, then they start moving in October (both bear and deer) when rainfall picks up. North Georgia, where there are a high number of bigfoot sightings, has the same set of circumstances; climate, elevations, and drought issues, yet their sightings dwindle in the summer months. In my mind that makes misidentification of deer and bear less likely as an out for an excuse and hoaxing by the members or outsiders more likely.
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24th November 2012, 07:48 AM	#453
Sonny2 Muse Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Dust on the Wind Posts: 669	A bunch of posts got moved somewhere or deleted. Where'd they go??

24th November 2012, 08:00 AM	#454
RedRatSnake Slithering Through life Join Date: May 2008 Location: Southie, Massachusetts. Posts: 1,625	Right here ~http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=248283

24th November 2012, 08:14 AM	#455
Sonny2 Muse Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Dust on the Wind Posts: 669	Well, OK. Thanks, Slo

24th November 2012, 08:44 AM	#456
clayflingythingy Critical Thinker Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 337	Originally Posted by Jodie ...while I was still giving Kathy the benefit of the doubt... Please elaborate. You were quite offended when I dismissed Kathy's claims as an out and out lie. If you no longer give Kathy the benefit of the doubt, just [i]what[i] do you think of her claim now?

24th November 2012, 08:45 AM	#457
clayflingythingy Critical Thinker Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 337	Originally Posted by GT/CS Reading Bipto's responses over there makes we wonder how anyone can believe any of it. He's obviously making it up as he goes along. I totally agree and am baffled why anyone would think this is an elaborate 3rd party hoax.

24th November 2012, 10:31 AM	#459
tsig a carbon based life-form Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 27,232	Originally Posted by Sonny2 This is kind of old news, but funny in a British sort of way: http://www.popehat.com/2012/06/21/if...-does-he-have/ This could not stand. Johnsen had no choice but to defend his reputation. Duels having sadly fallen out of favor — for let me assure you, a duel between experienced Bigfoot hunters is a thing of grave and terrible majesty One dark night, in the middle of the day. Two dead footers went out to play. Back to back, they faced one another, Drew their swords and shot one another. A deaf policeman heard the noise, And came to kill! The two dead boys. If you don't believe my stories true, Ask the blind man...He saw it too. http://quizilla.teennick.com/poems/1...e-of-the-night

24th November 2012, 10:55 AM	#460
tsig a carbon based life-form Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 27,232	Originally Posted by Sonny2 "Do bears carry their own canteens?" Not canteens, Camelbaks. I saw a picture of a bear out in the desert - it was stuck in a pothole trying to get a drink from what little water was in there. Some hikers helped it get out with a long branch. If bears can navigate the desert, then surely Bigfoot can live in the Ouachitas.* (*Footer logic) Big foot is an all weather, all terrain animal.

24th November 2012, 12:53 PM	#461
parnassus Master Poster Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: California Posts: 2,565	more on the NY story: Quote: .... this case shows us exactly what Bigfoot is about. Commercialization. It benefits Wiemer’s tourist and conference business for a segment of the population to believe in Bigfoot. It drivers viewers to watch Animal Planet’s nonsensical Finding Bigfoot. The whole thing began in 1958 with a logger wanting to scare off thieves of his equipment. He soon realized the phenomenon was good business. There’s one born every minute ….
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24th November 2012, 02:24 PM	#462
mikeyx Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,570	Originally Posted by tsig Big foot is an all weather, all terrain animal. No, interdimensional and like pancakes, but then who doesnt like pancakes?
mikeyx Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,570

24th November 2012, 02:28 PM	#463
StankApe Banned Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,643	Originally Posted by mikeyx No, interdimensional and like pancakes, but then who doesnt like pancakes? apparently this guy: https://www.facebook.com/pancakes.suck
StankApe Banned Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,643

24th November 2012, 03:04 PM	#464
Castro Critical Thinker Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 291	Originally Posted by parnassus more on the NY story: It made me laugh, but actually I find it rather sad.
Castro Critical Thinker Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 291

24th November 2012, 03:14 PM	#465
mikeyx Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,570	Originally Posted by StankApe apparently this guy: https://www.facebook.com/pancakes.suck touche!
mikeyx Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,570

24th November 2012, 06:09 PM	#466
Sonny2 Muse Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Dust on the Wind Posts: 669	Where did the pancakes and garlic stories get started, anyway? Some habituation story?

24th November 2012, 06:32 PM	#467
RedRatSnake Slithering Through life Join Date: May 2008 Location: Southie, Massachusetts. Posts: 1,625	Janice Carter said her BF friend " fox" liked them. She was a blast to talk with, I think you would have liked her ~ Sonny ~ you have the right kind of Demeanor and she would have taken to Ya

24th November 2012, 06:35 PM	#468
Jodie Graduate Poster Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,919	I wonder if she made it up or if she really saw Fox? Kind of like Jimmy Stewart's Harvey that was 6'4".
Jodie Graduate Poster Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,919	__________________ testis unus, testis nullus quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur

24th November 2012, 06:42 PM	#469
RedRatSnake Slithering Through life Join Date: May 2008 Location: Southie, Massachusetts. Posts: 1,625	You have to check her claim out, it is a pretty good read, here is one site that I have always liked but there are a few more, it was a really big deal back in the day. http://www.prairieghosts.com/carter_farm.html

24th November 2012, 06:43 PM	#470
Sonny2 Muse Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Dust on the Wind Posts: 669	Originally Posted by Slocie's Janice Carter said her BF friend " fox" liked them. She was a blast to talk with, I think you would have liked her ~ Sonny ~ you have the right kind of Demeanor and she would have taken to Ya LOL, I hope that's a compliment.

24th November 2012, 06:47 PM	#471
StankApe Banned Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,643	I remember seeing her on a few old documentaries doing her "fox" voice and such, she was obviously suffering from schizophrenia. I think she believed what she was seeing at first, and then embellished it more because it got her attention. (I was convinced Sasfooty was Janice for the longest time. same demeanor and descriptions).
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24th November 2012, 06:51 PM	#472
RedRatSnake Slithering Through life Join Date: May 2008 Location: Southie, Massachusetts. Posts: 1,625	Yes it is I got along with her very well, you just had to play along and be nice, most we're just too abrasive and smart ass so she would not talk at all. Her story is worth reading cause it helps one understand the BF beelevers mind set.

24th November 2012, 06:58 PM	#473
RedRatSnake Slithering Through life Join Date: May 2008 Location: Southie, Massachusetts. Posts: 1,625	Originally Posted by StankApe (I was convinced Sasfooty was Janice for the longest time. same demeanor and descriptions). I thought the same also at times. I don't think she was but as you know on this thing it can be hard, JC made many references to Indian culture and such, I don't remember SF using stuff like that, JC seemed to have more of a child's kinda mind, very simple and playful, lot's like fantasy.

24th November 2012, 07:01 PM	#474
Sonny2 Muse Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Dust on the Wind Posts: 669	Interesting article, Slocie's. Why would a researcher invest 3000 dollars to feed unseen creatures? Why would a researcher claim to use the Jane Goodall approach without having subjects to study? How could an untrained individual translate an unknown language with abstract ideas? How could there be not one clear photograph? And other than a witness or two, how could an entire county, including police and close neighbors, never, in fifty years, see a bigfoot? How could a bigfoot clan live, breed, eat and die in this open location without leaving scores of undeniable evidence?

24th November 2012, 08:10 PM	#475
COGrizzly Student Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 42	Originally Posted by The Shrike Oh I'm sure I made the case multiple times on the BFF that bigfoots would have to be at least facultatively "riparian". So? Are there no other riparian species in the South because it gets pretty hot there sometimes? Animals move. If there's a family of bigfoots at the Operation Persistence cabin - and they can avoid months of surveillance and 7(!) attempts on their lives from the consummate professionals involved in that ~~debacle~~ endeavor - then I'm sure such creatures are capable of walking downhill for a bit to get a drink when they need one. Haven't seen you over at the BFF at all on this latest thingy. I'd certainly like to see a comment or 2 from you. Because I truly respect your opinion. Seen this sort of thing many times before and am certainly not "accepting" anything....until I see a body.
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24th November 2012, 08:24 PM	#476
Sonny2 Muse Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Dust on the Wind Posts: 669	Grizz has seen a lot of supposed proof over on BFF and ain't taking any chances - he's a wise man.