Anyone know why the JREF director of communications has resigned, out of protest?

monoman · 26th November 2012, 03:39 PM

See here on Carrie Poppy's twitter.

The Central Scrutinizer · 26th November 2012, 03:42 PM

What is the Twitter equivalent of Vaguebooking?

Prediction: It will be something melodramatic and stupid.

monoman · 26th November 2012, 03:44 PM

Yeh, it's a bit counter-productive to do it out of protest and then not tell anyone what the protest is!

monoman · 26th November 2012, 03:45 PM

I sincerely hope it's nothing melodramatic. Hopefully it's something as simple as someone continually nicking her lunch from the JREF fridge.

Bell · 26th November 2012, 03:46 PM

Memo:

There are rumors of a lack of communication on the work floor. Why wasn't I told this?

ConspiRaider · 26th November 2012, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by monoman

I sincerely hope it's nothing melodramatic. Hopefully it's something as simple as someone continually nicking her lunch from the JREF fridge.

Well, if you call nicking the baggie of Tim Tams and leaving the rest NOT melodramatic...

jj · 26th November 2012, 05:39 PM

Nicking the TimTams should be a firing offense!

rjh01 · 27th November 2012, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by monoman

See here on Carrie Poppy's twitter.

One example is that your link does not work. Has the page being deleted? Or is this an example of poor communications?

Edit. However this link does work https://twitter.com/search?q=CarriePoppyYES

Quote:

Hi. Yes, I resigned out of protest. I'm sorry I can't say more right now. Please bear with me, and thanks for the outpouring of support.

Edit3. Better link https://twitter.com/CarriePoppyYES/s...02255708250112

Soapy Sam · 27th November 2012, 12:03 PM

Hmm.

https://twitter.com/search?q=CarriePoppyYES
I thought I posted a load of incomprehensible nonsense until I read that.

TsarBomba · 27th November 2012, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by monoman

Yeh, it's a bit counter-productive to do it out of protest and then not tell anyone what the protest is!

Unless it is the rarely used secondary meaning of "protest."

rjh01 · 27th November 2012, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by TsarBomba

Unless it is the rarely used secondary meaning of "protest."

My dictionary says that the definition of the word protest includes

Quote:

A written declaration, typically by a notary public, that a bill has been presented and payment or acceptance refused

Is that what you were referring to?

TsarBomba · 27th November 2012, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by rjh01

My dictionary says that the definition of the word protest includes

Is that what you were referring to?

Actually it was a very heavily veiled reference to the scene in the Hitchiker's Guide To The Galaxy, where Ford tells Arthur that he is "safe" and Arthur says that it must be an obscure alternate usage of "safe" that he was previously unfamiliar with.

zooterkin · 1st December 2012, 02:11 AM

I wonder if the Director of Communications is responsible for the website, because she's currently still listed as being on the staff.

So, has anyone found out why she left? I notice there is an interview with her on the skepchick website.

Rrose Selavy · 1st December 2012, 03:58 AM

Originally Posted by zooterkin

I wonder if the Director of Communications is responsible for the website, because she's currently still listed as being on the staff.

So, has anyone found out why she left? I notice there is an interview with her on the skepchick website.

I was going to mention that. Also this is the website that at least 2 years or so ago, they said was going to get a design overhaul. Let's face it , as Joomla sites go. it's pretty dull and uninspiring.
According to her tweet she would have resigned 10 days or more ago but kept quiet about it. I think she's gone to work for Peta , if she wasn't already doing so, as that was one of her causes.

Quote:

Carrie Poppy ‏@CarriePoppyYES
@BladderBarnacle I quit in protest. But now I'm going to go work in animal rights and I am thrilled.

But indeed . Gone on protest of what?

RoseMontague · 1st December 2012, 05:33 AM

Originally Posted by zooterkin

I wonder if the Director of Communications is responsible for the website, because she's currently still listed as being on the staff.

So, has anyone found out why she left? I notice there is an interview with her on the skepchick website.

They would probably tell us but that would require communication. My bet is that they don't fill the position.

zooterkin · 1st December 2012, 05:43 AM

Originally Posted by RoseMontague

They would probably tell us but that would require communication. My bet is that they don't fill the position.

Really? Why not?

I expect they will, but it seems they have a fairly high turnover of staff for such a small organisation, and there often (from what little hints I've seen dropped) seems to be a difference of opinion involved, rather than people simply moving on to another job. Obviously, though, this is not a place that those people are going to discuss it.

Rrose Selavy · 1st December 2012, 05:50 AM

Nah, we don't get much communication from JREF, apart from the usual requests for money around this time of year.

Darth Rotor · 1st December 2012, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by Rrose Selavy

Nah, we don't get much communication from JREF, apart from the usual requests for money around this time of year.

^ likes this post ^

Originally Posted by Soapy Sam

Hmm.

https://twitter.com/search?q=CarriePoppyYES
I thought I posted a load of incomprehensible nonsense until I read that.

I used to commend people who "'put the E into JREF.

I am considering a similar commendation for those who "put the twit into twitter" but am pretty sure I am not the first to come up with that joke.

I admit that I do not care for twitter as a form of communication.
I thus rarely access tweets. (I do run across a lot of twits but that's a different matter).

I am thus not in a position to determine whether or not her comments are more standard twit-prose, or more standard twitter-prose.

Director of communications: with that title, I'd be sure to make my public communications succinct, clear, and incisive. As I'm not in that job ... this is peanut gallery sniping.

Skeptic Ginger · 1st December 2012, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Carrie Poppy ‏@CarriePoppyYES
@BladderBarnacle I quit in protest. But now I'm going to go work in animal rights and I am thrilled.

Is it possible she's talking about a different job, as in she had more than one?

zooterkin · 1st December 2012, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

Is it possible she's talking about a different job, as in she had more than one?

Not when she earlier said, as rjh01 linked to,

Originally Posted by @CarriePoppyYES

Hi. Yes, I resigned out of protest. I'm sorry I can't say more right now. Please bear with me, and thanks for the outpouring of support.

zooterkin · 1st December 2012, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by Soapy Sam

Hmm.

https://twitter.com/search?q=CarriePoppyYES
I thought I posted a load of incomprehensible nonsense until I read that.

To be fair, she did say on 27th:

Quote:

Welcome, new followers. You will be disappointed. It's mostly one-liners with IRONIC SHOUTING.

There are several different ways to use Twitter, and some of them seem to depend on which client you use how well they work. Some people seem to have conversations with it, but I've not really got the hang of that (and having a conversation that everyone can see seems daft to me, anyway). I just follow some interesting people, tweet alerts about some upcoming events (mainly Skeptics in the Pub), and follow a couple of hashtags.

Skeptic Ginger · 1st December 2012, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by zooterkin

Not when she earlier said, as rjh01 linked to,

Where does that say what/where she resigned from?

I'm not saying she didn't. I have no clue. I'm just saying there may be other possibilities here.

rjh01 · 1st December 2012, 12:50 PM

She is going to work for animal rights. Reference https://twitter.com/CarriePoppyYES/s...32382521806849

Edit. I also agree with Skeptic Ginger. Cannot see where she explicitly mentions JREF. But she does not mention any other organisation either.

Acleron · 1st December 2012, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by Darth Rotor

^ likes this post ^

I used to commend people who "'put the E into JREF.

I am considering a similar commendation for those who "put the twit into twitter" but am pretty sure I am not the first to come up with that joke.

I admit that I do not care for twitter as a form of communication.
I thus rarely access tweets. (I do run across a lot of twits but that's a different matter).

I am thus not in a position to determine whether or not her comments are more standard twit-prose, or more standard twitter-prose.

Director of communications: with that title, I'd be sure to make my public communications succinct, clear, and incisive. As I'm not in that job ... this is peanut gallery sniping.

And you've never been prosecuted? Quick, what's the secret?

Darth Rotor · 1st December 2012, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by Acleron

And you've never been prosecuted? Quick, what's the secret?

Run across means encounter, not run over.

Are you a non-native English speaker?

Not all prepositions have identical meanings, ya see.

EDIT:

Hmm, maybe this thread ought to be full of congratulations for her getting a new job with PETA?

Cleon · 1st December 2012, 02:45 PM

Looks like she's going to work for PETA. Given that, it's anybody's guess what the "protest" was regarding, but I have some suspicions.

LashL · 1st December 2012, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

Where does that say what/where she resigned from?

I'm not saying she didn't. I have no clue. I'm just saying there may be other possibilities here.

Originally Posted by rjh01

Edit. I also agree with Skeptic Ginger. Cannot see where she explicitly mentions JREF. But she does not mention any other organisation either.

The one that the OP linked to originally did say that she had resigned from the JREF in protest (specifically naming the organization) but Ms. Poppy apparently deleted it. However, it was still showing up in Google Cache a few days ago when I looked. It said, "I resigned from my position at JREF out of protest. I wish them all well and continue to respect and admire Randi. Thx for support."

Skeptic Ginger · 1st December 2012, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by LashL

The one that the OP linked to originally did say that she had resigned from the JREF in protest (specifically naming the organization) but Ms. Poppy apparently deleted it. However, it was still showing up in Google Cache a few days ago when I looked. It said, "I resigned from my position at JREF out of protest. I wish them all well and continue to respect and admire Randi. Thx for support."

Thanks for the clarification.

I wonder why she'd delete that it was from the JREF but not that, "I resigned in protest"?

Anyway, I'll just lurk now until there is more to go on.

The Central Scrutinizer · 2nd December 2012, 06:16 AM

Originally Posted by Cleon

Looks like she's going to work for PETA. Given that, it's anybody's guess what the "protest" was regarding, but I have some suspicions.

Maybe the JREF wasn't nutty enough? Or she caught Randi eating a baloney sandwich.

sophia8 · 2nd December 2012, 07:56 AM

Originally Posted by Cleon

Looks like she's going to work for PETA. Given that, it's anybody's guess what the "protest" was regarding, but I have some suspicions.

Given all the love the majority of JREFers regularly show for PETA, I'm totally stumped...

wardenclyffe · 2nd December 2012, 09:39 AM

As evidenced here:

http://www.zoominfo.com/#!search/pro...rgetid=profile

She appears to have worked for (or at least with) PETA before she worked with JREF. It should come as no surprise that she would continue to work for (or with) them whether she's at JREF or not. I also find it hard to believe (argument from incredulity) that she was unaware of the feelings of many skeptics about PETA before she took the JREF job. In other words, I don't think PETA has anything to do with any of this.

Time will tell (hopefully),

Ward

Aepervius · 2nd December 2012, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by wardenclyffe

As evidenced here:

http://www.zoominfo.com/#!search/pro...rgetid=profile

She appears to have worked for (or at least with) PETA before she worked with JREF. It should come as no surprise that she would continue to work for (or with) them whether she's at JREF or not. I also find it hard to believe (argument from incredulity) that she was unaware of the feelings of many skeptics about PETA before she took the JREF job. In other words, I don't think PETA has anything to do with any of this.

Time will tell (hopefully),

Ward

From what I can say it is not only the skeptic which consider the PETA a bunch of twit. Look up online the number of page ridiculing PETA, calling them out for their support of ALF, and similar. Too many to be "skeptic only". PETA isn't especially well liked from what I can tell, and it is a general feeling.

PS: I forwarded twitter domains a facebook domains a long time ago to 127.0.0.1 and such thread remind me always why.

wardenclyffe · 2nd December 2012, 04:50 PM

Totally true, which suggests that her feelings about PETA probably had nothing to do with her resignation from JREF, since (some) skeptics are not unique in their derision of PETA. Also, I doubt her feelings about PETA were any secret when JREF hired her in the first place. I don't see a connection.

Ward

Tarot_Is_A_Card_Game! · 2nd December 2012, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by Aepervius

From what I can say it is not only the skeptic which consider the PETA a bunch of twit. Look up online the number of page ridiculing PETA, calling them out for their support of ALF, and similar. Too many to be "skeptic only". PETA isn't especially well liked from what I can tell, and it is a general feeling.

PS: I forwarded twitter domains a facebook domains a long time ago to 127.0.0.1 and such thread remind me always why.

ALF?
People Enabling Terrorist Activity!

davefoc · 3rd December 2012, 01:04 AM

I know absolutely nothing about this. If anybody is looking for facts they should skip to the next post where there is a chance he might find some.

Before I saw this thread I didn't even know that JREF had a director of communications or that somebody named Carry Poppy (Is that a real name?) worked for JREF. However my complete lack of knowledge about the Carry Poppy situation will not preclude me from speculating about it:

Carry Poppy was working on an event and she wanted JREF to let her publicize the event on their site and they wouldn't let her do it. So she quit.

Almost certainly wrong, but I did warn you if you wanted facts you should have skipped to the next post.

RoseMontague · 3rd December 2012, 04:23 AM

Originally Posted by davefoc

I know absolutely nothing about this. If anybody is looking for facts they should skip to the next post where there is a chance he might find some.

Before I saw this thread I didn't even know that JREF had a director of communications or that somebody named Carry Poppy (Is that a real name?) worked for JREF. However my complete lack of knowledge about the Carry Poppy situation will not preclude me from speculating about it:

Carry Poppy was working on an event and she wanted JREF to let her publicize the event on their site and they wouldn't let her do it. So she quit.

Almost certainly wrong, but I did warn you if you wanted facts you should have skipped to the next post.

Good to cross your path again Dave, hope you have been well. On facebook she describes her job situation as winning the lottery, losing the ticket, and then finding it again. She sure seems to be active and perhaps activist would be a good description. Nice article on skepchick. Good on her. With as many causes she supports and some of those being somewhat controversial, I am not surprised that she found herself in a dispute over one of them at the JREF. You might be right, maybe we will find out.

davefoc · 4th December 2012, 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by RoseMontague

Good to cross your path again Dave, hope you have been well. On facebook she describes her job situation as winning the lottery, losing the ticket, and then finding it again. She sure seems to be active and perhaps activist would be a good description. Nice article on skepchick. Good on her. With as many causes she supports and some of those being somewhat controversial, I am not surprised that she found herself in a dispute over one of them at the JREF. You might be right, maybe we will find out.

Nice to hear from you again also. Hope all is well for you. I haven't followed the Amanda Knox case much since the acquittal. I lurked for awhile in the thread but eventually I lost interest. There were miscellaneous loose ends when I stopped following it and it would be interesting to see where things stand today.

I was a little embarrassed that you happened by to see such a lame post by me, but I wanted to subscribe to the thread and I didn't have anything to say so I thought I'd just make something up.

As to something remotely related to the topic: She seems like an interesting woman, I hope all goes well for her in her new ventures.

zooterkin · 4th December 2012, 02:00 AM

Originally Posted by davefoc

I wanted to subscribe to the thread and I didn't have anything to say so I thought I'd just make something up.

You can also click on "Thread Tools" and select "Subscribe".

CriticalThanking · 4th December 2012, 10:56 AM

She found the pic of DJ scoopin' up the field mice and boppin' 'em on the head.

davefoc · 4th December 2012, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by zooterkin

You can also click on "Thread Tools" and select "Subscribe".

I always figured there was some way but never went looking. Thanks, although it eliminates one excuse I had for writing something despite a complete absence of knowledge or evidence on the subject. I don't think this will stop me though, I will just need to find another excuse.

26th November 2012, 03:39 PM	#1
monoman Master baiter - I fish! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Bulgaria Posts: 967	Anyone know why the JREF director of communications has resigned, out of protest? See here on Carrie Poppy's twitter.
	__________________ Where memory fails, thought prevails.

26th November 2012, 03:42 PM	#2
The Central Scrutinizer Penultimate Amazing Pither Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The White Zone Posts: 42,277	What is the Twitter equivalent of Vaguebooking? Prediction: It will be something melodramatic and stupid.
	__________________ If I see somebody with a gun on a plane? I'll kill him.

26th November 2012, 03:44 PM	#3
monoman Master baiter - I fish! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Bulgaria Posts: 967	Yeh, it's a bit counter-productive to do it out of protest and then not tell anyone what the protest is!
	__________________ Where memory fails, thought prevails.

26th November 2012, 03:45 PM	#4
monoman Master baiter - I fish! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Bulgaria Posts: 967	I sincerely hope it's nothing melodramatic. Hopefully it's something as simple as someone continually nicking her lunch from the JREF fridge.
	__________________ Where memory fails, thought prevails.

26th November 2012, 03:46 PM	#5
Bell beautiful freak Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 20,484	Memo: There are rumors of a lack of communication on the work floor. Why wasn't I told this?
	__________________ Every single day of my life has been worse than the day before it. So that means that every single day that you see me, that's on the worst day of my life. I♥NY You gotta love cops.

26th November 2012, 03:53 PM	#6
ConspiRaider Writer of Nothingnesses Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 11,169	Originally Posted by monoman I sincerely hope it's nothing melodramatic. Hopefully it's something as simple as someone continually nicking her lunch from the JREF fridge. Well, if you call nicking the baggie of Tim Tams and leaving the rest NOT melodramatic...

26th November 2012, 05:39 PM	#7
jj grumpy old skeptic Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Deep in the rain Posts: 18,513	Nicking the TimTams should be a firing offense!
	__________________ The Power to Quit

27th November 2012, 11:54 AM	#8
rjh01 Gentleman of leisure Tagger Join Date: May 2005 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 17,191	Originally Posted by monoman See here on Carrie Poppy's twitter. One example is that your link does not work. Has the page being deleted? Or is this an example of poor communications? Edit. However this link does work https://twitter.com/search?q=CarriePoppyYES Quote: Hi. Yes, I resigned out of protest. I'm sorry I can't say more right now. Please bear with me, and thanks for the outpouring of support. Edit3. Better link https://twitter.com/CarriePoppyYES/s...02255708250112
	__________________ dddffffpppqqqq Want to use your computer for something that will make society better? See this thread for details Folding@home Last edited by rjh01; 27th November 2012 at 11:59 AM.

27th November 2012, 12:03 PM	#9
Soapy Sam NLH Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 25,885	Hmm. https://twitter.com/search?q=CarriePoppyYES I thought I posted a load of incomprehensible nonsense until I read that.
Soapy Sam NLH Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 25,885

27th November 2012, 01:49 PM	#10
TsarBomba One Damn Dirty Ape Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: 5430 feet above you Posts: 796	Originally Posted by monoman Yeh, it's a bit counter-productive to do it out of protest and then not tell anyone what the protest is! Unless it is the rarely used secondary meaning of "protest."
	__________________ Signature line? I don't need no stinking signature line!

27th November 2012, 02:20 PM	#11
rjh01 Gentleman of leisure Tagger Join Date: May 2005 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 17,191	Originally Posted by TsarBomba Unless it is the rarely used secondary meaning of "protest." My dictionary says that the definition of the word protest includes Quote: A written declaration, typically by a notary public, that a bill has been presented and payment or acceptance refused Is that what you were referring to?
	__________________ dddffffpppqqqq Want to use your computer for something that will make society better? See this thread for details Folding@home

27th November 2012, 03:43 PM	#12
TsarBomba One Damn Dirty Ape Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: 5430 feet above you Posts: 796	Originally Posted by rjh01 My dictionary says that the definition of the word protest includes Is that what you were referring to? Actually it was a very heavily veiled reference to the scene in the Hitchiker's Guide To The Galaxy, where Ford tells Arthur that he is "safe" and Arthur says that it must be an obscure alternate usage of "safe" that he was previously unfamiliar with.
	__________________ Signature line? I don't need no stinking signature line!

1st December 2012, 02:11 AM	#13
zooterkin Nitpicking dilettante Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Berkshire, mostly Posts: 24,588	I wonder if the Director of Communications is responsible for the website, because she's currently still listed as being on the staff. So, has anyone found out why she left? I notice there is an interview with her on the skepchick website.
	__________________ The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts.Bertrand Russell Zooterkin is correct Darat Nerd! Hokulele Join the JREF Folders ! Team 13232

1st December 2012, 03:58 AM	#14
Rrose Selavy Stranded in Sub-Atomica Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 2,929	Originally Posted by zooterkin I wonder if the Director of Communications is responsible for the website, because she's currently still listed as being on the staff. So, has anyone found out why she left? I notice there is an interview with her on the skepchick website. I was going to mention that. Also this is the website that at least 2 years or so ago, they said was going to get a design overhaul. Let's face it , as Joomla sites go. it's pretty dull and uninspiring. According to her tweet she would have resigned 10 days or more ago but kept quiet about it. I think she's gone to work for Peta , if she wasn't already doing so, as that was one of her causes. Quote: Carrie Poppy ‏@CarriePoppyYES @BladderBarnacle I quit in protest. But now I'm going to go work in animal rights and I am thrilled. But indeed . Gone on protest of what?
	Last edited by Rrose Selavy; 1st December 2012 at 04:00 AM.

1st December 2012, 05:33 AM	#15
RoseMontague Drama Queen Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 5,187	Originally Posted by zooterkin I wonder if the Director of Communications is responsible for the website, because she's currently still listed as being on the staff. So, has anyone found out why she left? I notice there is an interview with her on the skepchick website. They would probably tell us but that would require communication. My bet is that they don't fill the position.
	__________________ "I have hated the words and I have loved them, and I hope I have made them right".

1st December 2012, 05:43 AM	#16
zooterkin Nitpicking dilettante Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Berkshire, mostly Posts: 24,588	Originally Posted by RoseMontague They would probably tell us but that would require communication. My bet is that they don't fill the position. Really? Why not? I expect they will, but it seems they have a fairly high turnover of staff for such a small organisation, and there often (from what little hints I've seen dropped) seems to be a difference of opinion involved, rather than people simply moving on to another job. Obviously, though, this is not a place that those people are going to discuss it.
	__________________ The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts.Bertrand Russell Zooterkin is correct Darat Nerd! Hokulele Join the JREF Folders ! Team 13232

1st December 2012, 05:50 AM	#17
Rrose Selavy Stranded in Sub-Atomica Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 2,929	Nah, we don't get much communication from JREF, apart from the usual requests for money around this time of year.
	Last edited by Rrose Selavy; 1st December 2012 at 05:53 AM.

1st December 2012, 10:53 AM	#18
Darth Rotor Salted Sith Cynic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rat cheer Posts: 34,264	Originally Posted by Rrose Selavy Nah, we don't get much communication from JREF, apart from the usual requests for money around this time of year. ^ likes this post ^ Originally Posted by Soapy Sam Hmm. https://twitter.com/search?q=CarriePoppyYES I thought I posted a load of incomprehensible nonsense until I read that. I used to commend people who "'put the E into JREF. I am considering a similar commendation for those who "put the twit into twitter" but am pretty sure I am not the first to come up with that joke. I admit that I do not care for twitter as a form of communication. I thus rarely access tweets. (I do run across a lot of twits but that's a different matter). I am thus not in a position to determine whether or not her comments are more standard twit-prose, or more standard twitter-prose. Director of communications: with that title, I'd be sure to make my public communications succinct, clear, and incisive. As I'm not in that job ... this is peanut gallery sniping.
	__________________ Helicopters don't so much fly as beat the air into submission. "Jesus wept, but did He laugh?"--F.H. Buckley____"There is one thing that was too great for God to show us when He walked upon our earth ... His mirth." --Chesterton__"If the barbarian in us is excised, so is our humanity."--D'rok__ "I only use my gun whenever kindness fails."-- Robert Earl Keen__"Sturgeon spares none.". -- The Marquis

1st December 2012, 11:09 AM	#19
Skeptic Ginger formerly skeptigirl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Shifting through paradigms Posts: 40,592	Quote: Carrie Poppy ‏@CarriePoppyYES @BladderBarnacle I quit in protest. But now I'm going to go work in animal rights and I am thrilled. Is it possible she's talking about a different job, as in she had more than one?
	__________________ (*Tired of continuing to hear the "Democrat Party" repeatedly I've decided to adopt the name, ~~Pubbie Party, Repubs~~ "Republics" and Republic Party in response.)

1st December 2012, 11:12 AM	#20
zooterkin Nitpicking dilettante Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Berkshire, mostly Posts: 24,588	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger Is it possible she's talking about a different job, as in she had more than one? Not when she earlier said, as rjh01 linked to, Originally Posted by @CarriePoppyYES Hi. Yes, I resigned out of protest. I'm sorry I can't say more right now. Please bear with me, and thanks for the outpouring of support.
	__________________ The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts.Bertrand Russell Zooterkin is correct Darat Nerd! Hokulele Join the JREF Folders ! Team 13232

1st December 2012, 11:16 AM	#21
zooterkin Nitpicking dilettante Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Berkshire, mostly Posts: 24,588	Originally Posted by Soapy Sam Hmm. https://twitter.com/search?q=CarriePoppyYES I thought I posted a load of incomprehensible nonsense until I read that. To be fair, she did say on 27th: Quote: Welcome, new followers. You will be disappointed. It's mostly one-liners with IRONIC SHOUTING. There are several different ways to use Twitter, and some of them seem to depend on which client you use how well they work. Some people seem to have conversations with it, but I've not really got the hang of that (and having a conversation that everyone can see seems daft to me, anyway). I just follow some interesting people, tweet alerts about some upcoming events (mainly Skeptics in the Pub), and follow a couple of hashtags.
	__________________ The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts.Bertrand Russell Zooterkin is correct Darat Nerd! Hokulele Join the JREF Folders ! Team 13232

1st December 2012, 12:49 PM	#22
Skeptic Ginger formerly skeptigirl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Shifting through paradigms Posts: 40,592	Originally Posted by zooterkin Not when she earlier said, as rjh01 linked to, Where does that say what/where she resigned from? I'm not saying she didn't. I have no clue. I'm just saying there may be other possibilities here.
	__________________ (Tired of continuing to hear the "Democrat Party" repeatedly I've decided to adopt the name, ~~Pubbie Party, Repubs~~ "Republics" and Republic Party in response.) Last edited by Skeptic Ginger; 1st December 2012 at 12:51 PM.*

1st December 2012, 12:50 PM	#23
rjh01 Gentleman of leisure Tagger Join Date: May 2005 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 17,191	She is going to work for animal rights. Reference https://twitter.com/CarriePoppyYES/s...32382521806849 Edit. I also agree with Skeptic Ginger. Cannot see where she explicitly mentions JREF. But she does not mention any other organisation either.
	__________________ dddffffpppqqqq Want to use your computer for something that will make society better? See this thread for details Folding@home Last edited by rjh01; 1st December 2012 at 12:51 PM.

1st December 2012, 01:58 PM	#24
Acleron Graduate Poster Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: In a beautifully understandable universe Posts: 1,933	Originally Posted by Darth Rotor ^ likes this post ^ I used to commend people who "'put the E into JREF. I am considering a similar commendation for those who "put the twit into twitter" but am pretty sure I am not the first to come up with that joke. I admit that I do not care for twitter as a form of communication. I thus rarely access tweets. (I do run across a lot of twits but that's a different matter). I am thus not in a position to determine whether or not her comments are more standard twit-prose, or more standard twitter-prose. Director of communications: with that title, I'd be sure to make my public communications succinct, clear, and incisive. As I'm not in that job ... this is peanut gallery sniping. And you've never been prosecuted? Quick, what's the secret?

1st December 2012, 02:43 PM	#25
Darth Rotor Salted Sith Cynic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rat cheer Posts: 34,264	Originally Posted by Acleron And you've never been prosecuted? Quick, what's the secret? Run across means encounter, not run over. Are you a non-native English speaker? Not all prepositions have identical meanings, ya see. EDIT: Hmm, maybe this thread ought to be full of congratulations for her getting a new job with PETA?
	__________________ Helicopters don't so much fly as beat the air into submission. "Jesus wept, but did He laugh?"--F.H. Buckley____"There is one thing that was too great for God to show us when He walked upon our earth ... His mirth." --Chesterton__"If the barbarian in us is excised, so is our humanity."--D'rok__ "I only use my gun whenever kindness fails."-- Robert Earl Keen__"Sturgeon spares none.". -- The Marquis Last edited by Darth Rotor; 1st December 2012 at 02:45 PM.

1st December 2012, 02:45 PM	#26
Cleon King of the Pod People Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 20,533	Looks like she's going to work for PETA. Given that, it's anybody's guess what the "protest" was regarding, but I have some suspicions.
	__________________ "People like me are what stand between us and Auschwitz." - Newt Gingrich

1st December 2012, 05:36 PM	#27
LashL Goddess of Legaltainment™ Administrator Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 26,233	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger Where does that say what/where she resigned from? I'm not saying she didn't. I have no clue. I'm just saying there may be other possibilities here. Originally Posted by rjh01 Edit. I also agree with Skeptic Ginger. Cannot see where she explicitly mentions JREF. But she does not mention any other organisation either. The one that the OP linked to originally did say that she had resigned from the JREF in protest (specifically naming the organization) but Ms. Poppy apparently deleted it. However, it was still showing up in Google Cache a few days ago when I looked. It said, "I resigned from my position at JREF out of protest. I wish them all well and continue to respect and admire Randi. Thx for support."
	Last edited by LashL; 1st December 2012 at 05:44 PM.

1st December 2012, 07:18 PM	#28
Skeptic Ginger formerly skeptigirl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Shifting through paradigms Posts: 40,592	Originally Posted by LashL The one that the OP linked to originally did say that she had resigned from the JREF in protest (specifically naming the organization) but Ms. Poppy apparently deleted it. However, it was still showing up in Google Cache a few days ago when I looked. It said, "I resigned from my position at JREF out of protest. I wish them all well and continue to respect and admire Randi. Thx for support." Thanks for the clarification. I wonder why she'd delete that it was from the JREF but not that, "I resigned in protest"? Anyway, I'll just lurk now until there is more to go on.
	__________________ (*Tired of continuing to hear the "Democrat Party" repeatedly I've decided to adopt the name, ~~Pubbie Party, Repubs~~ "Republics" and Republic Party in response.)

2nd December 2012, 06:16 AM	#29
The Central Scrutinizer Penultimate Amazing Pither Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The White Zone Posts: 42,277	Originally Posted by Cleon Looks like she's going to work for PETA. Given that, it's anybody's guess what the "protest" was regarding, but I have some suspicions. Maybe the JREF wasn't nutty enough? Or she caught Randi eating a baloney sandwich.
	__________________ If I see somebody with a gun on a plane? I'll kill him.

2nd December 2012, 07:56 AM	#30
sophia8 Master Poster Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In the dark, dark forest.... Posts: 2,263	Originally Posted by Cleon Looks like she's going to work for PETA. Given that, it's anybody's guess what the "protest" was regarding, but I have some suspicions. Given all the love the majority of JREFers regularly show for PETA, I'm totally stumped...
	__________________ "Nature is floods and famines and earthquakes and viruses and little blue-footed booby babies getting their brains pecked out by their stronger siblings! ....Nature doesn't care about me, or about anybody in particular - nature can be terrifying! Why do they even put words like 'natural' on products like shampoo, like it's automatically a good thing? I mean, sulfuric acid is natural!" -Julia Sweeney

2nd December 2012, 09:39 AM	#31
wardenclyffe Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,485	As evidenced here: http://www.zoominfo.com/#!search/pro...rgetid=profile She appears to have worked for (or at least with) PETA before she worked with JREF. It should come as no surprise that she would continue to work for (or with) them whether she's at JREF or not. I also find it hard to believe (argument from incredulity) that she was unaware of the feelings of many skeptics about PETA before she took the JREF job. In other words, I don't think PETA has anything to do with any of this. Time will tell (hopefully), Ward
	__________________ ~~Na eth'er aa, ammre' en ank'aar'eith, d'emner'aa-, asd'reng'aather, em'n'err-aae...~ - Alenara Al'Kher'aat, aged 347

2nd December 2012, 02:02 PM	#32
Aepervius Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bierland. I mean , germany. Posts: 7,761	Originally Posted by wardenclyffe As evidenced here: http://www.zoominfo.com/#!search/pro...rgetid=profile She appears to have worked for (or at least with) PETA before she worked with JREF. It should come as no surprise that she would continue to work for (or with) them whether she's at JREF or not. I also find it hard to believe (argument from incredulity) that she was unaware of the feelings of many skeptics about PETA before she took the JREF job. In other words, I don't think PETA has anything to do with any of this. Time will tell (hopefully), Ward From what I can say it is not only the skeptic which consider the PETA a bunch of twit. Look up online the number of page ridiculing PETA, calling them out for their support of ALF, and similar. Too many to be "skeptic only". PETA isn't especially well liked from what I can tell, and it is a general feeling. PS: I forwarded twitter domains a facebook domains a long time ago to 127.0.0.1 and such thread remind me always why.
	__________________ Omnes Blessant Ultima necat "I want, and this is my last and most dear wish, I want that the last of the king be strangled with the guts of the last priest" (Jean Meslier / 1664-1729 / Testament) A very early french atheist, a catholic priest in life.

2nd December 2012, 04:50 PM	#33
wardenclyffe Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,485	Totally true, which suggests that her feelings about PETA probably had nothing to do with her resignation from JREF, since (some) skeptics are not unique in their derision of PETA. Also, I doubt her feelings about PETA were any secret when JREF hired her in the first place. I don't see a connection. Ward
	__________________ ~~Na eth'er aa, ammre' en ank'aar'eith, d'emner'aa-, asd'reng'aather, em'n'err-aae...~ - Alenara Al'Kher'aat, aged 347

2nd December 2012, 05:35 PM	#34
Tarot_Is_A_Card_Game! Thinker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Las Vegas Nevada Posts: 149	Originally Posted by Aepervius From what I can say it is not only the skeptic which consider the PETA a bunch of twit. Look up online the number of page ridiculing PETA, calling them out for their support of ALF, and similar. Too many to be "skeptic only". PETA isn't especially well liked from what I can tell, and it is a general feeling. PS: I forwarded twitter domains a facebook domains a long time ago to 127.0.0.1 and such thread remind me always why. ALF? People Enabling Terrorist Activity!
	__________________ E pluribus unum One nation indivisible

3rd December 2012, 01:04 AM	#35
davefoc Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: orange country, california Posts: 7,255	I know absolutely nothing about this. If anybody is looking for facts they should skip to the next post where there is a chance he might find some. Before I saw this thread I didn't even know that JREF had a director of communications or that somebody named Carry Poppy (Is that a real name?) worked for JREF. However my complete lack of knowledge about the Carry Poppy situation will not preclude me from speculating about it: Carry Poppy was working on an event and she wanted JREF to let her publicize the event on their site and they wouldn't let her do it. So she quit. Almost certainly wrong, but I did warn you if you wanted facts you should have skipped to the next post.
	__________________ The way of truth is along the path of intellectual sincerity. -- Henry S. Pritchett Perfection is the enemy of good enough -- Russian proverb