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Profanz · 20th December 2012, 03:10 PM

I would say mostly with enthusiasts who are concerned certain guns won't be available much longer. But maybe also with ordinary citizens trying to protect themselves.

In any case, these shootings seem to be bringing more guns into society.

Monketey Ghost · 20th December 2012, 03:20 PM

All I need is my breath.

NWO Sentryman · 20th December 2012, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by Monketey Ghost

All I need is my breath.

well, don't hold it.

Skeptic Ginger · 20th December 2012, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by Profanz

I would say mostly with enthusiasts who are concerned certain guns won't be available much longer. But maybe also with ordinary citizens trying to protect themselves.

In any case, these shootings seem to be bringing more guns into society.

No, right wing paranoia and false beliefs about liberal governments and Rambo movie myths are bringing more guns into society.

StankApe · 20th December 2012, 03:27 PM

are they up from last christmas time? or just up for the year? that could be a big part of it.

Sledge · 20th December 2012, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

No, right wing paranoia and false beliefs about liberal governments and Rambo movie myths are bringing more guns into society.

And fairies. Don't forget fairies.

GeeMack · 20th December 2012, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by StankApe

are they up from last christmas time? or just up for the year? that could be a big part of it.

This article says in Illinois there were over 12,500 background checks processed between last Friday and this week Tuesday. That compared to about 6,800 during the same time period a year ago. So thanks to the calls for more restrictions, almost 6,000 more guns will get into circulation than we might normally expect... in Illinois alone. And we have a little more jumping through hoops here than they do most other states.

Other articles indicate high capacity magazines are selling out as fast as gun stores can put them on the shelves, and in some places there are lines outside gun stores when they open. Heck of a way to reduce the quantity of guns and high-cap magazines.

That reminds me, I'll be getting out this weekend for a couple more 15 round mags for my P95.

Globert · 20th December 2012, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by GeeMack

This article says in Illinois there were over 12,500 background checks processed between last Friday and this week Tuesday. That compared to about 6,800 during the same time period a year ago. So thanks to the calls for more restrictions, almost 6,000 more guns will get into circulation than we might normally expect... in Illinois alone. And we have a little more jumping through hoops here than they do most other states.

Other articles indicate high capacity magazines are selling out as fast as gun stores can put them on the shelves, and in some places there are lines outside gun stores when they open. Heck of a way to reduce the quantity of guns and high-cap magazines.

That reminds me, I'll be getting out this weekend for a couple more 15 round mags for my P95.

I'd opine the last sentence in your link as well, the court ruling opens the door to freedom in Illinois. That combined with the reactionary gun ban talk, it may be a good Christmas for some honest citizens.

thaiboxerken · 20th December 2012, 04:42 PM

Yes, because the last thing people should do is talk about gun control when something like this happens...

fuelair · 20th December 2012, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by Monketey Ghost

All I need is my breath.

Especially after what you did with your thumb in that other thread.

fuelair · 20th December 2012, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

No, right wing paranoia and false beliefs about liberal governments and Rambo movie myths are bringing more guns into society.

I am not paranoid, not right wing (and have been raving liberal most of my life), do not have a problem with liberal governments on most things, believe Rambo stuff about as far as I can throw the Russian copter he would have destroyed (the one he was in) with the little trick he did. And I have a good first aid kit and food/water supplies pretty much all the time. Careful is not paranoid. There is a distinction.

Just in case, I voted for Obama/Biden (again) and would have voted for Hilary either of those times. And helped Alan get a trip home here in FL.

fuelair · 20th December 2012, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by Sledge

And fairies. Don't forget fairies.

I like fairies - especially the well sculpted female ones - ceramic of course.

Sam.I.Am · 20th December 2012, 04:56 PM

What a shock! A perceived oncoming artificial (as in intentionally removing from the shelves items that would not otherwise be scarce) shortage of something makes people want to get that something before it's gone. Color me surprised...

fuelair · 20th December 2012, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by GeeMack

This article says in Illinois there were over 12,500 background checks processed between last Friday and this week Tuesday. That compared to about 6,800 during the same time period a year ago. So thanks to the calls for more restrictions, almost 6,000 more guns will get into circulation than we might normally expect... in Illinois alone. And we have a little more jumping through hoops here than they do most other states.

Other articles indicate high capacity magazines are selling out as fast as gun stores can put them on the shelves, and in some places there are lines outside gun stores when they open. Heck of a way to reduce the quantity of guns and high-cap magazines.

That reminds me, I'll be getting out this weekend for a couple more 15 round mags for my P95.

I hope to be picking up (if the price has not gone up over2K yet) a SIG 551A1 with 8-10 (it only comes with 2) 20 and 30 round magazines - I particularly like how they button together so you can do the RVN flip without having to tape them together. Ain't tech grand.
Either way, Definitely a Kel-Tec KSG 12 gauge 2 tubes/7shells each (no magazines). Never had a shotgun before.

BStrong · 20th December 2012, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by Profanz

I would say mostly with enthusiasts who are concerned certain guns won't be available much longer. But maybe also with ordinary citizens trying to protect themselves.

In any case, these shootings seem to be bringing more guns into society.

You should have seen the run-up to the Gun Control Act of 1968.

Or the run up to the 19 May '86 cut-off for the registration of transferable machine guns - some shops had to hire office workers for 24/7 work processing applications.

Or California before the Roberti-Roos Assault Weapon Control Act in '89.

Or the Bush import ban in '89.

Or the AWB provisions of the '94 crime bill.

Or the second California AW ban in '99.

Or the great O'panic of '08.

BStrong · 20th December 2012, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by fuelair

I hope to be picking up (if the price has not gone up over2K yet) a SIG 551A1 with 8-10 (it only comes with 2) 20 and 30 round magazines - I particularly like how they button together so you can do the RVN flip without having to tape them together. Ain't tech grand.
Either way, Definitely a Kel-Tec KSG 12 gauge 2 tubes/7shells each (no magazines). Never had a shotgun before.

Nice toy, I've tested the hell out of one, and although it stands up, I'll stick to convntional designs - pretty much the same with their 7.62 rifle.

Sledge · 20th December 2012, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by fuelair

believe Rambo stuff about as far as I can throw the Russian copter he would have destroyed (the one he was in) with the little trick he did.

Oh god, I love that bit so much. Even more than the launcher switching between being a LAWS and an RPG-7. Got a friend who used to practice archery who LOVES how authentically Stallone handles his bow in the film.

What was this thread about?

triforcharity · 20th December 2012, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by fuelair

I hope to be picking up (if the price has not gone up over2K yet) a SIG 551A1 with 8-10 (it only comes with 2) 20 and 30 round magazines - I particularly like how they button together so you can do the RVN flip without having to tape them together. Ain't tech grand.
Either way, Definitely a Kel-Tec KSG 12 gauge 2 tubes/7shells each (no magazines). Never had a shotgun before.

Don't buy the Kel Tec KSG. It's garbage. I've shot it plenty, and would never buy it had I known all the issues it's had.

And Kel Tec knows about the issues, but yet refuses to re-engineer it.

Good concept, poor design.

fuelair · 20th December 2012, 07:06 PM

Thanks both trifor and BStrong for the info - I had wanted to get some user input!!

Ranb · 20th December 2012, 07:33 PM

Anytime there is a threat of a AWB that ban's popular guns but allows owners to keep the ones they have prior to the ban, people rush to buy them. This is not hard to understand.

Ranb

Bikewer · 21st December 2012, 07:08 AM

On the Reddit "guns" section, we have a fellow who works for a large firearms retailer. He said that the weekend was pretty quiet, but starting Monday things went ballistic. Rifles, magazines, ammunition...
Could not keep them in stock, and a very difficult time replacing stock. That's just anecdotal from one store, but we could likely extrapolate across the country.

I related that my ex brother-in-law, just prior to the enactment of the last "assault weapons ban", went out and bought three AK-47s.

20th December 2012, 03:10 PM	#1
Profanz Muse Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 932	And gun sales are up. I would say mostly with enthusiasts who are concerned certain guns won't be available much longer. But maybe also with ordinary citizens trying to protect themselves. In any case, these shootings seem to be bringing more guns into society.
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20th December 2012, 03:20 PM	#2
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20th December 2012, 03:23 PM	#3
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20th December 2012, 03:23 PM	#4
Skeptic Ginger formerly skeptigirl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Shifting through paradigms Posts: 40,799	Originally Posted by Profanz I would say mostly with enthusiasts who are concerned certain guns won't be available much longer. But maybe also with ordinary citizens trying to protect themselves. In any case, these shootings seem to be bringing more guns into society. No, right wing paranoia and false beliefs about liberal governments and Rambo movie myths are bringing more guns into society.
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20th December 2012, 03:27 PM	#5
StankApe Banned Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,643	are they up from last christmas time? or just up for the year? that could be a big part of it.
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20th December 2012, 03:42 PM	#6
Sledge Grammaton Cleric Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Swingin' on a star Posts: 7,123	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger No, right wing paranoia and false beliefs about liberal governments and Rambo movie myths are bringing more guns into society. And fairies. Don't forget fairies.
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20th December 2012, 04:06 PM	#7
GeeMack Banned Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Not Bandiagara Posts: 7,241	Originally Posted by StankApe are they up from last christmas time? or just up for the year? that could be a big part of it. This article says in Illinois there were over 12,500 background checks processed between last Friday and this week Tuesday. That compared to about 6,800 during the same time period a year ago. So thanks to the calls for more restrictions, almost 6,000 more guns will get into circulation than we might normally expect... in Illinois alone. And we have a little more jumping through hoops here than they do most other states. Other articles indicate high capacity magazines are selling out as fast as gun stores can put them on the shelves, and in some places there are lines outside gun stores when they open. Heck of a way to reduce the quantity of guns and high-cap magazines. That reminds me, I'll be getting out this weekend for a couple more 15 round mags for my P95.
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20th December 2012, 04:33 PM	#8
Globert Thinker Join Date: May 2003 Location: Inside the Oort cloud, one A.U. from this medium star. Posts: 208	Originally Posted by GeeMack This article says in Illinois there were over 12,500 background checks processed between last Friday and this week Tuesday. That compared to about 6,800 during the same time period a year ago. So thanks to the calls for more restrictions, almost 6,000 more guns will get into circulation than we might normally expect... in Illinois alone. And we have a little more jumping through hoops here than they do most other states. Other articles indicate high capacity magazines are selling out as fast as gun stores can put them on the shelves, and in some places there are lines outside gun stores when they open. Heck of a way to reduce the quantity of guns and high-cap magazines. That reminds me, I'll be getting out this weekend for a couple more 15 round mags for my P95. I'd opine the last sentence in your link as well, the court ruling opens the door to freedom in Illinois. That combined with the reactionary gun ban talk, it may be a good Christmas for some honest citizens.
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20th December 2012, 04:42 PM	#9
thaiboxerken Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 21,086	Yes, because the last thing people should do is talk about gun control when something like this happens...
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20th December 2012, 04:43 PM	#10
fuelair Cythraul Enfys Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 29,310	Originally Posted by Monketey Ghost All I need is my breath. Especially after what you did with your thumb in that other thread.
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20th December 2012, 04:51 PM	#11
fuelair Cythraul Enfys Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 29,310	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger No, right wing paranoia and false beliefs about liberal governments and Rambo movie myths are bringing more guns into society. I am not paranoid, not right wing (and have been raving liberal most of my life), do not have a problem with liberal governments on most things, believe Rambo stuff about as far as I can throw the Russian copter he would have destroyed (the one he was in) with the little trick he did. And I have a good first aid kit and food/water supplies pretty much all the time. Careful is not paranoid. There is a distinction. Just in case, I voted for Obama/Biden (again) and would have voted for Hilary either of those times. And helped Alan get a trip home here in FL.
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20th December 2012, 04:53 PM	#12
fuelair Cythraul Enfys Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 29,310	Originally Posted by Sledge And fairies. Don't forget fairies. I like fairies - especially the well sculpted female ones - ceramic of course.
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20th December 2012, 04:56 PM	#13
Sam.I.Am Illuminator Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Hunting Moose and Squirrel Posts: 4,164	What a shock! A perceived oncoming artificial (as in intentionally removing from the shelves items that would not otherwise be scarce) shortage of something makes people want to get that something before it's gone. Color me surprised...
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20th December 2012, 05:04 PM	#14
fuelair Cythraul Enfys Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 29,310	Originally Posted by GeeMack This article says in Illinois there were over 12,500 background checks processed between last Friday and this week Tuesday. That compared to about 6,800 during the same time period a year ago. So thanks to the calls for more restrictions, almost 6,000 more guns will get into circulation than we might normally expect... in Illinois alone. And we have a little more jumping through hoops here than they do most other states. Other articles indicate high capacity magazines are selling out as fast as gun stores can put them on the shelves, and in some places there are lines outside gun stores when they open. Heck of a way to reduce the quantity of guns and high-cap magazines. That reminds me, I'll be getting out this weekend for a couple more 15 round mags for my P95. I hope to be picking up (if the price has not gone up over2K yet) a SIG 551A1 with 8-10 (it only comes with 2) 20 and 30 round magazines - I particularly like how they button together so you can do the RVN flip without having to tape them together. Ain't tech grand. Either way, Definitely a Kel-Tec KSG 12 gauge 2 tubes/7shells each (no magazines). Never had a shotgun before.
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20th December 2012, 05:09 PM	#15
BStrong Illuminator Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: California Posts: 4,047	Originally Posted by Profanz I would say mostly with enthusiasts who are concerned certain guns won't be available much longer. But maybe also with ordinary citizens trying to protect themselves. In any case, these shootings seem to be bringing more guns into society. You should have seen the run-up to the Gun Control Act of 1968. Or the run up to the 19 May '86 cut-off for the registration of transferable machine guns - some shops had to hire office workers for 24/7 work processing applications. Or California before the Roberti-Roos Assault Weapon Control Act in '89. Or the Bush import ban in '89. Or the AWB provisions of the '94 crime bill. Or the second California AW ban in '99. Or the great O'panic of '08.

20th December 2012, 05:14 PM	#16
BStrong Illuminator Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: California Posts: 4,047	Originally Posted by fuelair I hope to be picking up (if the price has not gone up over2K yet) a SIG 551A1 with 8-10 (it only comes with 2) 20 and 30 round magazines - I particularly like how they button together so you can do the RVN flip without having to tape them together. Ain't tech grand. Either way, Definitely a Kel-Tec KSG 12 gauge 2 tubes/7shells each (no magazines). Never had a shotgun before. Nice toy, I've tested the hell out of one, and although it stands up, I'll stick to convntional designs - pretty much the same with their 7.62 rifle.

20th December 2012, 05:41 PM	#17
Sledge Grammaton Cleric Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Swingin' on a star Posts: 7,123	Originally Posted by fuelair believe Rambo stuff about as far as I can throw the Russian copter he would have destroyed (the one he was in) with the little trick he did. Oh god, I love that bit so much. Even more than the launcher switching between being a LAWS and an RPG-7. Got a friend who used to practice archery who LOVES how authentically Stallone handles his bow in the film. What was this thread about?
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20th December 2012, 05:47 PM	#18
triforcharity Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: The South! Posts: 12,614	Originally Posted by fuelair I hope to be picking up (if the price has not gone up over2K yet) a SIG 551A1 with 8-10 (it only comes with 2) 20 and 30 round magazines - I particularly like how they button together so you can do the RVN flip without having to tape them together. Ain't tech grand. Either way, Definitely a Kel-Tec KSG 12 gauge 2 tubes/7shells each (no magazines). Never had a shotgun before. Don't buy the Kel Tec KSG. It's garbage. I've shot it plenty, and would never buy it had I known all the issues it's had. And Kel Tec knows about the issues, but yet refuses to re-engineer it. Good concept, poor design.
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20th December 2012, 07:06 PM	#19
fuelair Cythraul Enfys Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 29,310	Thanks both trifor and BStrong for the info - I had wanted to get some user input!!
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20th December 2012, 07:33 PM	#20
Ranb Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: WA USA Posts: 4,206	Anytime there is a threat of a AWB that ban's popular guns but allows owners to keep the ones they have prior to the ban, people rush to buy them. This is not hard to understand. Ranb

21st December 2012, 07:08 AM	#21
Bikewer Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: St. Louis, Mo. Posts: 9,615	On the Reddit "guns" section, we have a fellow who works for a large firearms retailer. He said that the weekend was pretty quiet, but starting Monday things went ballistic. Rifles, magazines, ammunition... Could not keep them in stock, and a very difficult time replacing stock. That's just anecdotal from one store, but we could likely extrapolate across the country. I related that my ex brother-in-law, just prior to the enactment of the last "assault weapons ban", went out and bought three AK-47s.