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5th November 2006, 09:31 AM | #161 |
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5th November 2006, 09:34 AM | #162 |
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Wow, sorry about the size of the picture, I'll have to learn to resize.
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5th November 2006, 09:36 AM | #163 |
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How did that firetuck come to be described as 'burned out'?
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5th November 2006, 09:58 AM | #164 |
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It wasn't described as "burned out". It was taken by my brother-in-law (FDNY) on 9/12. I'm not even sure if it's even ever appeared on the Internet before. I posted it to show TS that there was a LOT of damage to vehicles not caused by fire, but rather from tons of falling debris.
This is the first time I've tried to post a photo on this message board. I'll resize it and try again. |
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Here's the truck that has the windows blown out but is otherwise undamaged. The Wood/Reynolds paper has a multitude of very strange photos. Look at them. They are very difficult to explain. I would love you guys to explain them. You don't need to know where any of these vehicles were. Imagine they were anywere you'd like to imagine. Then explain how, for instance, the front door panel of a police car is melted, but the rear door panel is pristine. How does that happen? |
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5th November 2006, 11:09 AM | #169 |
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5th November 2006, 11:13 AM | #170 |
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Did falling debris do this?
Please explain how the "collapse" melted the front door and removed the door handle, yet left the back door panel pristine. Can't wait to hear this. |
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When I changed to my new computer, I was worried about info on the old computer being used for identity theft and such. Folks said: "Just yank the hard drive" and somesuch. But I blew up the apartment. Only way to be safe. -kookbreaker |
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5th November 2006, 11:23 AM | #173 |
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You do not mean the paper by Judy Woods the insane idiot from planet x ward at the Clemson funny farm?
Why read real dumb ideas from the team most likely to be sent to the funny farm. The real question here is did you read the article? And do you believe the article? If you do believe, has your wife talked to you about you being committed? Is she too busy at work while you are believing insane CT ideas? If you have any evidence of a beam weapon bring it on. Take a break you mind is toasted to even post this toasted beam weapon, except as a parody of the CT experts. |
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How do you know that this car was melted?
Have you any idea what happened to this car? Have you spoken to the police department about this car? Have you checked anything out about this car? Is it not possible a car full of petrol simply caught fire when large chunks of debris fell on it? What happened to the policemen that were in this car? Have you checked up? Can you offer up their testimony? |
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OK. The door was open. Now, the really strange stuff. What about all the circular holes? a giant drill press?
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5th November 2006, 12:14 PM | #179 |
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Got any better pics of the holes?
Dimensions? What was in them? Colour? Aroma? |
5th November 2006, 12:43 PM | #180 |
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Yes, I know it's a different fire truck. I posted it to make the point that not all vehicles had fire damage, many had debris damage only. As for the photos in the Woods/Reynolds paper, you are assuming that the fire damage was caused right when the towers collapsed. Fires burned at ground zero for weeks after 9/11 and you don't know when those photos were taken. I know for a FACT that the photo I posted was taken on 9/12. Putting out vechicle fires was not a priority in the first few days, searching for survivors was. |
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Hotdamn Martians and their ****** heatray!
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5th November 2006, 01:27 PM | #183 |
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I would surmise that fire did most of that.
Could have been flaming debris. I take it you've never seen a car fire before? How is this supposed to be proof of 'splosives or the Death Star, precisely? Oh, by the way Alex, how come you now quote yourself twice in your signature, but use two different names? Seems a bit... odd, don't you think? |
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Yes, it's very odd. A multitude of vertical round holes of similar diameter bored down through rubble is normal, and a person using his own real name, and also using an internet name, that's odd. The first quote clarifies Gravy's signature, in which "TruthSeeker1234" is quoted out of context.
Now that that's cleared up, please clear this up. |
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What's to clear up?
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I still don't know what "round holes" you're talking about.
And that has nothing to do with your signature. I was merely commenting on people who refer to themselves in the third person. You may want to change your signature again, since I didn't make the connection between yours and Gravy's signature -- I doubt many other readers will get that impression. You're not giving me much to work with. Are you proposing that the areas of collapse -- whichever building this is, obviously hammered by falling debris -- showing vaguely round shapes, is evidence of space-based beam weapons? Can you accept that a localized building collapse might fracture on a convex load line? That's what really happened. If these were punchouts from beam weapons, first of all, they're way smaller than the WTC collapse itself. So... your beam weapon has multiple settings?? Throttleable? And they fired it at random, punching little holes hither and thither in an orgy of wanton destruction? Second, how do you reconcile that there appear to be no thermal plumes from these beam weapon impacts? No jets of steam, molten rebar, smoke, not even scorch marks around the edges? This beam weapon of yours appears to mimic blunt impact quite well... or is that what They want us to think?? Third, do you have any idea what the state-of-art in beam weapons is? I work for NASA, pal. If we had the ability to launch a ruddy orbital cannon, we wouldn't be struggling to finish the International Space Station. And it would be about a million times more awesome. Go back to your comic books. |
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5th November 2006, 01:59 PM | #196 |
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Impossible. No intelligence agency would use such unstable people as part of their operation.
There is some precedent for this, but using more legitimate public figures. The one that comes to mind is the Glomar Explorer, using Howard Hughes and a fake research mission as cover for a black project to recover a sunken Soviet boomer. I guess one could argue that Howard Hughes was a bit of a crackpot as well, but the difference between this operation and the nearly unintelligible flotsam that is the 9/11 Truth Movement is stark. I don't see them as in any way equivalent. |
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Your questions are good ones. Why no steam or other visual evidence besides the round holes? NASA, huh? Not surprised. No, I have no idea what the state of the art in beam weapons is.
COnvex load lines. In other words, buildings broke in a round fashion, because that was the weakest? Straight down through? Hmmmm. And what about the round holes in the dust and debris? Same thing? |
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So where did you, Judy, and Morgan get all the energy for your weapon?
Do you even have a clue how much energy Judy, Morgan and you are ignoring just in the events as they happen? And how much energy they say they needed to bring down the WTC with their energy beam weapon? |
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Well, I do, and it's lousy megawatt-class weapons. That means in order to generate the same energy as the aircraft impact -- not counting the fuel on board or any other consumable, just the kinetic energy -- would take over an hour of continuous firing. It can't keep that up, by the way.
Concrete buildings tend to break in a round fashion. It's just the way certain materials fracture. Obviously straight down. I'm suspecting this was secondary collapse after impact, though I still don't know precisely what I'm looking at. After being damaged, the only force remaining is gravity. What else were you thinking of? And I still don't know what other "holes in the dust and debris" you're talking about. "Holes in dust" does not parse. Dust particles are too small to have holes, and dust clouds don't stay still long enough for well-defined holes. |
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Big picture of big hole with big debris inside.
ETA: The above link doesn't work. Try this link, and click on the picture top right. And you are either unfair, or REALLY unable to percieve the evidence. You have posted many times that picture of the WTC 1 collapse, taken from a helicopter. Here's a smaller version of said picture. What do you observe in this picture? And mainly about the debris crashing down? |
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