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Holes, plural, lots of them. Go look. I think the object that drilled these holes had to be round because that is the nature of things. Paper punches cut round holes because the blade is cylindrical. Same with drill bits.
Otherwise, we have to believe that there were cylindrical patterns of weakness running vertically through roofs and multiple stories of building, and also in the rubble, and also in the road. And we have to believe that the impacting debris disappeared after triggering this damage. Is this what you guys think? |
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You don't need a round piece of debris, or a round object, to create a round-looking hole in the roof structure there. The apparent shape of the hole is more dependant upon -
-which structural members failed, and how (I hypothesize they were hit by debris) -the size, shape, and placement of the roof decking that evidently caved in -the type of roofing material(it looks like a built-up rubber roof in the pictures) -the camera angle You see, when something or things fell and impacted that area of the roof, it may have punctured or cut that roof membrane, damaged the decking, and even caused internal columns or joists to fail, right? But that would not necessarily have to be one single object. It might even have been several relatively small objects over the course of a few seconds, causing a hole in the flexible rubber membrane. The deck members and insulation underneath the membrane fall out of the picture in what may or may not be a round-ish manner. But, the flexible rubber that makes up the roof will stretch over those areas and that hole will still appear to be round. |
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If I pushed you onto a frozen lake in the early winter and you fell through the ice, what shape would you expect the hole to be?
(After this thread, I'm almost getting nostalgic for Christophera's concrete core. At least he has the excuse of having a completely unhinged mind. This is just stupid.) |
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You're wrong. And stupid.
I'm sure a thin concrete floor dropping onto another one after 20 others have dropped onto it will remain intact. That was sarcasm, by the way.
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No, you are making the fatal mistake of assuming one huge object made each hole.
There was so much debris falling that day its easily plausible that a large cluster of debris punched its way through the roof and formed what looks like a round hole from a certain angle and distance. It's all irrelevant anyways because it's been shown the holes were not perfectly round. Can you tell me why in the pictures posted above by Gravy there is a considerable amount of debris near the holes, wouldn't common sense dictate that the debris and damage are related? |
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OK, lets use the hole shaped like a pacman in the roof on that picture posted above, by Gravy, as an example.
As you can see the debris punched its way through the roof all the way into the building and because there was no light source from within to illuminate the debris it can't be seen on the photograph, that's why the hole is black. Just because you can't see the debris that caused the hole on that picture doesn't mean it wasn't there. |
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Unfortunately I don't have the resources here to draw lines on this picture, but I suggest people print it out and draw a few lines on it. You'll notice that most of the "round" holes actually have one or more segments of their circumference that are actually straight. Consider the "PacMan" hole on the upper right. The leftmost edge seems to be fairly straight, and roughly parallel to the rightmost edge of the hole to its left, which is also kind of straight. I surmise that there is a roof beam right there, that acted as a fulcrum to the collaping roof material. Does anyone have blueprints of this building to check? Then take a look at the four holes in a row that are just down and to the left of those holes. They all have straight edges, that are spaced very regularly. Again, it looks like the roof material collapsed around the support beams. Also, it's a bit hard to tell because of the angle the photo is at, but if draw a line parallel to the rightmost edge of the rightmost hole in the line of four, it matches almost perfectly with the leftmost edge of the hole at the top, which edge is again kinda-straight. If you draw a similar line for the left edge of the same hole, it matches the left edge of the hole just above it. There are similar features for most of these holes, which indicates to me that the roof beams acted as "stops" for the collapsing roof materials, almost like using a ruler to rip a straight edge in a piece of paper, or breaking a tile on the edge of a workbench. If anyone has photoediting software, perhaps they could paint a few lines to show these things. |
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And while we're at it, take a look at the edge of the PacMan hole in Gravy's three quarters view picture. Looks an awful lot like a bit of sagging roof membrane to me. Good call, Minadin.
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Anyways who on earth was given the task of firing this bloomin' laser, Stevie Wonder? The only reason I ask is because for some reason whoever did went crazy and decided to pepper WTC 5 and 6 with several huge holes, in the process blowing the cover up of 9/11 and also...
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Holy [rule 8] PooperScooper321, how is it that you are totally UNCAPABLE of reading all the answers we are providing you with. We even show you pictures, since you like them so much the better. What the hell is preventing you from comprehending all the given evidence? Stop acting so stupid. You are really a super troll.
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He can't be serious, can he? Its like every time these idiots get debunked they come up with something even more vague and rediculous. Like they just can't help but try to find any possible way to attack the US government. I agree the government sucks sometimes. But honestly, this is just silly. Anyone who tries to tell me that there was a 911 conspiracy I will just laugh in their face and walk away, because it is seriously old and tiring now. I thought it was cute in the beginning but now its just silly. What is the old saying? If you're not fighting the system by the time you're 20, you have no heart. If you're not a part of the system by the time you're 30, you have no brain. I think. |
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RoundHoleBoy1234: You are now making Christophera appear sane and rational by comparison.
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