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Old 11th May 2007, 12:15 AM   #1
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What piece of Boeing is this?

This was presented at LC website by Dylan. Out of plain interest, some airline experts out there. What is this? It was supposedly found on top of a cop car at WTC.

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Old 11th May 2007, 12:26 AM   #2
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I think i saw this on a website, i believe it was part of an aluminum housing for an overhead light.
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I found a very long discussion about it at letsrollforums.com - it's mainly a bunch of troofers deciding what the letters must stand for in order to prove an inside job. There was, however, one post towards the end which seemed to have some useful information. I haven't checked the veracity of it, but the post was made by someone who made the account, made this one post, and hasn't posted since, so I don't think it is a troofer source.

Originally Posted by Beonoid @ letsrollforums
I can't believe I'm wasting time replying to a post this old, BUT...

The part number appears to be 250T1115-2

This would be a valid Boeing part number for a 767 (or 757, as noted below)

The part number is structured using something called WBS, where each part of the number has a meaning. The "2" at the beginning means it is a Systems part. (it would be a "1" for structure, and a "4" for a payloads interiors part).

The "5" specifies a particular subsystem. I think "5" is Electrical subsystems. And the remaining number before the "T is chosen by the major design group to mean whatever they want. The digits after the letter are chosen by subgroups to mean whatever they want.

The "T" by the way stands for 767. "N" is for 757, "W" is for 777, and "A" is for 737 "new generation" airplanes circa 1997. In all cases, "SCD" parts (parts order to spec, as opposed to built to print) have one fewer digit after the letter, and an optional preceding "S": for example, S253T123-2.

Old 737's (pre-1996) and 747's still use the older numbering system: 65B12345 or 69B12345-0.

And just to confuse things more, the 757 and 767 were designed at the same time, and LOTS of the 757 parts have 767 "T" part numbers. This is most noticable in the engines, hydraulics, air conditioning and other "systems" parts. The 757 interior, however, is common to the 737, so you can have some "A" part numbers on 757's and "N" part numbers on 737's.
link to 13th page of the thread. Scroll 2/3 down for the post. The rest of the thread is junk.
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based on that post and the STG, safeTglo, a lighting supplier to boeing, i'm willing to bet it is actually part of a overhead light housing.
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Originally Posted by 3bodyproblem View Post
based on that post and the STG, safeTglo, a lighting supplier to boeing, i'm willing to bet it is actually part of a overhead light housing.
I've seen some references to "CSTG" meaning "casting" as in, the part was cast, rather than machined.

No one who claims this has cited a source, so make of it what you will.

Mind you, the "casting" idea is a lot better than this one (from the above thread):

Originally Posted by hdhntr (gee I wonder who that is!)
I was initially struck dumb when I saw this. Then I saw the C but maybe, just maybe, the STG could still stand for Systems Technology Group.

Systems, the word, has been coming up a lot lately in some threads.

This plane was most definitely re-configured by SOME type of Militarily connected program management and systems integration company, or a secret consortium, which would most definitely have had a whole series of directly, or loosely connected ties to the Military, Boeing and the Tanker Consortium, and the Bush Administration's innermost inner circle, including Cheney and Perle.

If legit, I believe that the STG may very well stand for Systems Technology Group, but that is still speculative at this point...
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Originally Posted by qarnos View Post
I've seen some references to "CSTG" meaning "casting" as in, the part was cast, rather than machined.

No one who claims this has cited a source, so make of it what you will.

Mind you, the "casting" idea is a lot better than this one (from the above thread):

Wow, I love how "hdhntr" comes to the conclusion that the plane was reconfigured to some fantasy military getup because some tiny little part may - no confirmation at the time of his post - may have the word "system" in it. By the holy nostrils... Never ceases to amaze me.

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Originally Posted by The Great Hairy One View Post
Wow, I love how "hdhntr" comes to the conclusion that the plane was reconfigured to some fantasy military getup because some tiny little part may - no confirmation at the time of his post - may have the word "system" in it. By the holy nostrils... Never ceases to amaze me.

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Well, it didn't have the word "System" in it - it had the letter "S". Obviously, "S" means System, which means 9/11 was an inside job. What could be more straight-forward?
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Originally Posted by qarnos View Post
Well, it didn't have the word "System" in it - it had the letter "S". Obviously, "S" means System, which means 9/11 was an inside job. What could be more straight-forward?

Don't make me beat you, you latte-swilling Melbournian.



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Originally Posted by The Great Hairy One View Post
Don't make me beat you, you latte-swilling Melbournian.



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Replace "latte" with "beer" and I'll consider that a compliment
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why is dylan posting this? What's he trying to prove?
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Originally Posted by Undesired Walrus View Post
why is dylan posting this? What's he trying to prove?
Originally Posted by Dylanysos
I don't think this really needs much explaining. This either came from one of the planes and we can prove once and for all what hit, or this cop stumbled upon a random scrap of Boeing material that happened to be on top of a car.

I posted this a long time ago on Letsroll, but after recent conversations with ScaffoldRider and Terrorcell, I figured I'd give it another go. In fact, I'm pinning this, because I think this is a reasonable endeavor.
http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Ch...showtopic=8956
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Old 11th May 2007, 06:20 AM   #12
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Quote:
dylan avery Posted: May 10 2007, 05:43 PM

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(Revolutionary91 @ May 10 2007, 10:38 PM)
Oh of course! Silly me.
-Engine
-Landing Gear
-Tis little bit
-Piece of the fuseloge
-Anything else I have forgotten

All planted by the CIA. :P

You forgot the eyewitnesses.
But..somehow in the case of the pentagon and Flight 93, the above isn't good enough for Dylan?
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So Avery is now a non no-planer?
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So Avery is now a non no-planer?
Yep, he actually created a rule that forbid all discussions about no planes at WTC. He has even suspended Killtown and maybe some others for violating that rule.

I don't know his stand on 77 and 93 though.
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But..somehow in the case of the pentagon and Flight 93, the above isn't good enough for Dylan?
as far as i can tell dylan think 2 757s and 2 767s were involved in 9/11, he just doesnt think they were the passenger jets they were supposed to be
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why is dylan posting this? What's he trying to prove?
That he's the biggest moron on the face of the planet. It's working, too...
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Originally Posted by ref View Post
This was presented at LC website by Dylan. Out of plain interest, some airline experts out there. What is this? It was supposedly found on top of a cop car at WTC.

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting...4173941139.png
In addition to Beonoid's information which sounds pretty good to me - I did a part number search in the 767 Illustrated Parts Catalog. There is no 250T1115, but there is a 256T1115 installed on our 767s and it's a bracket which is part of a leading edge slat actuator assembly. The illustration of this part seems to be a pretty good match for the picture of mystery part in the OP. I can(maybe) get a picture of one at work tomorrow, or print out the IPC illustration and scan it, if anyone is still interested..Ref?
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Originally Posted by apathoid View Post
In addition to Beonoid's information which sounds pretty good to me - I did a part number search in the 767 Illustrated Parts Catalog. There is no 250T1115, but there is a 256T1115 installed on our 767s and it's a bracket which is part of a leading edge slat actuator assembly. The illustration of this part seems to be a pretty good match for the picture of mystery part in the OP. I can(maybe) get a picture of one at work tomorrow, or print out the IPC illustration and scan it, if anyone is still interested..Ref?
I'd like to see it, if you can do it.
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based on that post and the STG, safeTglo, a lighting supplier to boeing, i'm willing to bet it is actually part of a overhead light housing.
Or just a really good copy planted by the NWO worker bees.
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Originally Posted by cloudshipsrule View Post
Or just a really good copy planted by the NWO worker bees.

One obscure Boeing 767 part - $900
One bucket of dust - $15
One digital camera - $400
Fooling people into thinking a 767 hit the WTC - Priceless

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This plane was most definitely re-configured by SOME type of Militarily connected program management and systems integration company, or a secret consortium, which would most definitely have had a whole series of directly, or loosely connected ties to the Military, Boeing and the Tanker Consortium, and the Bush Administration's innermost inner circle, including Cheney and Perle.
Yup, 'cause secret military consortiums would have shelf-loads of nefarious bits, all with serial numbers.
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In addition to Beonoid's information which sounds pretty good to me - I did a part number search in the 767 Illustrated Parts Catalog. There is no 250T1115, but there is a 256T1115 installed on our 767s and it's a bracket which is part of a leading edge slat actuator assembly. The illustration of this part seems to be a pretty good match for the picture of mystery part in the OP. I can(maybe) get a picture of one at work tomorrow, or print out the IPC illustration and scan it, if anyone is still interested..Ref?
Interested? You bet! Anything you can find would be great.
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Originally Posted by cloudshipsrule View Post
Or just a really good copy planted by the NWO worker bees.
well duh! that goes without saying around here
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There is no 250T1115, but there is a 256T1115 installed on our 767s
Heh, and there was my first impression from looking at the image... Why are they looking for a 250T1115-2? It says 256T1115-2
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In addition to Beonoid's information which sounds pretty good to me - I did a part number search in the 767 Illustrated Parts Catalog. There is no 250T1115, but there is a 256T1115 installed on our 767s and it's a bracket which is part of a leading edge slat actuator assembly. The illustration of this part seems to be a pretty good match for the picture of mystery part in the OP. I can(maybe) get a picture of one at work tomorrow, or print out the IPC illustration and scan it, if anyone is still interested..Ref?
Thanks Apathoid, of course I am interested and others seem to be as well
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Well, it didn't have the word "System" in it - it had the letter "S". Obviously, "S" means System, which means 9/11 was an inside job. What could be more straight-forward?
Later in that wacky thread, hdhntr decides STG actually stands for "stage", which proves it's from a harpoon missile (because some document on Boeing's Web site about said missile uses "stg" as an abbreviation for "stage"). But someone else points out that the TT on the next line down obviously means "Tanker Transport", which proves a fuel tanker plane was used rather than a passenger plane.

There isn't a big enough for these people.
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I'm actually pretty sure STG stands for Stupid Truther Guppies.

See how easy it is?

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Hey im confused. What happened to the Blueprints smoking gun, and then the other Emergency worker that blue the lid on wtc 7 demolition?

I thought he would have gone to the authorities with his hinted evidence of a cover up?

This is like a snake oil salesman.
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Hey im confused. What happened to the Blueprints smoking gun, and then the other Emergency worker that blue the lid on wtc 7 demolition?

I thought he would have gone to the authorities with his hinted evidence of a cover up?

This is like a snake oil salesman.
I think it's more like a religion. They must keep the faith that it was an inside job.
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Well, I didn't get a chance to actually find the mystery part as installed and photograph it because there wasn't a 767 with the forward bag bin ceiling opened up(there usually is) and I was pretty busy all night(installing landing gear wiring harnesses.....fun!). But I did print out the relevant IPC figure as well as the item text page. I also pulled a page out of my 767 school training manual that shows where the part is located(sort of) on the airplane.











This last image isn't exactly accurate as to the location, the slat aft quadrant is actually much farther down, closer to the wing root than where it's depicted below.


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Thank Apathoid!

That was quite satifying Mystery solved. Dylan will hear of this sooner or later too, I think.
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Crikey! And we trust our lives to a couple of wheels and a length of string

Pretty much.
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Thank Apathoid!

That was quite satifying Mystery solved. Dylan will hear of this sooner or later too, I think.
Anytime.
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Nice work, apathoid.
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Old 14th May 2007, 02:19 PM   #36
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Good stuff, apathoid. The truthers have been working on this one for at least 3 years.

It's funny how if you actually look for answers, you can find them.
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The truth is so boring sometimes...

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Old 14th May 2007, 05:32 PM   #39
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But I did print out the relevant IPC figure as well as the item text page.
OMG, it's part of the remote control system!!!!1111Conspiracy1!!1!!!!1
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I love how Dylan "investigates" this part:

Originally Posted by Dylan Avery
I got a free DVD request back on 9/26/2006 from someone whose father used to work for Raytheon and Boeing...

I just dropped him an e-mail to touch base. We'll see...
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