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Old 15th January 2009, 10:30 AM   #1
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FBI Video Release

I received 2 DVD's from the FBI this morning as an interim release for FOIA 1078686-000. I have one converted to MPG and uploaded, but I'm trying to get the second one trimmed down in file size (wmv file) so that it can be accessed on the web (currently 700mb). I'll post a link for both, although the NE485 link may not be operative for a few hours while I trim it down.

These are the file descriptions as provided by the FBI. The witness face in NE418 is blurred out by the FBI Privacy review.
NE418 - One(1) VHS video cassette, Witness interviews near Pentagon after attack. (26 MB)
This witness claims he saw a plane fly over the Pentagon. No wait a minute, fly into the Pentagon, followed by a second white decoy jet. Whoops, wrong again, he says the second plane was a four-engine gray plane that veered off.
NE485 - One(1) VHS video cassette, labeled "9/11/2001", Footage of post-crash Pentagon crime scene obtained from Chief Mastin, Prince William County. (68 MB)
One interesting scene with the NTSB examining missile parts (or could those be plane parts?).

I highly recommend right-click, "save target as" due to the file size.
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the second one ends at 3:57 yet the slider is not even half way across.
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It is still uploading. Give it another 10 minutes and try again.

ETA: Both videos are uploaded, tested and ready to go.
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Old 15th January 2009, 11:29 AM   #4
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Thanks again for getting this stuff out.

I recall seeing a few scenes of the second video before at least in part -- in incredibly compressed tiny Realplayer format. Would you mind posting frame grabs from the uncompressed 700mb file? I am interested in the following frames: 3:33 (light pole), 4:36 (fire on roof), 6:12, 6:16 (debris being sorted at the helipad), 8:06 (cordoned-off area of wreckage), 8:09 (NTSB agent), 10:03 (view of the Pentagon in the morning).
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Old 15th January 2009, 11:33 AM   #5
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I'll pull those for you later this evening from the original DVD. The FedEx guy rang the doorbell early and interrupted my sleep. We old people need our rest, so after a good nap I'll get on it
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Old 15th January 2009, 04:01 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by Mangoose View Post
Thanks again for getting this stuff out.

I recall seeing a few scenes of the second video before at least in part -- in incredibly compressed tiny Realplayer format. Would you mind posting frame grabs from the uncompressed 700mb file? I am interested in the following frames: 3:33 (light pole), 4:36 (fire on roof), 6:12, 6:16 (debris being sorted at the helipad), 8:06 (cordoned-off area of wreckage), 8:09 (NTSB agent), 10:03 (view of the Pentagon in the morning).
Just an FYI, the "debris being sorted at the helipad" is firefighter gear.









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Old 15th January 2009, 04:44 PM   #7
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Old 15th January 2009, 05:26 PM   #8
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Whatever happened to this camera?

http://www.trafficland.com/city/WAS/camera/740/

And why wasn't it on the FOIA hosted on the Fl77 dot info site?
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Old 15th January 2009, 05:39 PM   #9
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The VDOT cameras do not record under normal operations. They have the capability when requested by law enforcement. The tower upon which the camera you linked is on was actually "clipped" or otherwise affected by the plane. According to the VDOT Smart Center Supervisor I talked to, the camera was knocked loose in its housing and was "hanging by a wire". So even if the cameras were recording, this particular camera was a “victim” of the encounter.
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The VDOT cameras do not record under normal operations. They have the capability when requested by law enforcement. The tower upon which the camera you linked is on was actually "clipped" or otherwise affected by the plane. According to the VDOT Smart Center Supervisor I talked to, the camera was knocked loose in its housing and was "hanging by a wire". So even if the cameras were recording, this particular camera was a “victim” of the encounter.
That makes sense, I didn't think that camera was in Fl. 77's path. The resolution looks terrible, leaving me with the impression it'd be worse than the security booth footage even if it was recording.
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Old 15th January 2009, 07:34 PM   #11
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Thanks for the frame grabs, great stuff.
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That makes sense, I didn't think that camera was in Fl. 77's path. The resolution looks terrible, leaving me with the impression it'd be worse than the security booth footage even if it was recording.
That camera has been mentioned here before. A lot of people confuse the VDOT mast (containing the camera) with the Virginia Highway Patrol radio tower (no camera, and a much bigger structure).

As near as we can tell, the aircraft did not hit the VHP tower, though it may have come closer to it, perhaps even brushed it. No way to tell. The VDOT mast, on the other hand, definitely bears a scuff mark consistent with a wingtip.

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Thanks for the video excerpts. To paraphrase the late, lamented pomeroo, the evidence that 9/11 Was an Inside Jerb just keeps not coming in.
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Old 15th January 2009, 10:39 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by R.Mackey View Post
To paraphrase the late, lamented pomeroo, the evidence that 9/11 Was an Inside Jerb just keeps not coming in.
Well, CMH also notified me today that they have finished the redactions on the remaining 20 or so audio interviews that I requested. Maybe the CIT flyover witness will be among them.
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Originally Posted by R.Mackey View Post
That camera has been mentioned here before. A lot of people confuse the VDOT mast (containing the camera) with the Virginia Highway Patrol radio tower (no camera, and a much bigger structure).

As near as we can tell, the aircraft did not hit the VHP tower, though it may have come closer to it, perhaps even brushed it. No way to tell. The VDOT mast, on the other hand, definitely bears a scuff mark consistent with a wingtip.
Thanks for the link.

For clarification, was the damage to the VDOT mast the reason that the camera I linked to did not record or am I more confused than I should be?

Thanks again.
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No, VDOT advises that their cameras are not set up to record under normal circumstances.
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911files, I have to say that you are the man! Too bad that everything that you present is fake/lies, otherwise everything it says is a delusion. And we know that isn't possible.

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No, VDOT advises that their cameras are not set up to record under normal circumstances.
They would say that, wouldn't they?
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Looks like Craig decided to post one of the videos on YouTube without crediting the source. He makes the following comments:

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This newly released 10 minute video came via FOIA from the FBI. It's late in the day and doesn't reveal much but it does expose how the trees block the view of the alleged impact point for most anyone who could have possibly seen the plane on the official flight path. There are some odd fires still raging on the roof of the building even though the plane was supposed to have entered on the bottom floor.
I know that JREF is the source because there is more to the original video and it is the segment that I posted here
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Just for those who are unaware of the history on these videos. Scott Bingham originally filed suit against the DoJ to obtain the release of videos in the possession of the FBI. Through his efforts, the Citgo and Doubletree videos were released. During discovery, he obtained a list of other videos in their possession. These two videos were released as a result of Scott's continued efforts and a suit I filed for specific videos related to the Pentagon attack.

This is not an easy process folks, and I really do resent CIT posting one of them on YouTube without crediting the source. If they have a problem with me, they could at least credit Scott who has invested many years and large sums of money to secure their release.
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Tape 2 of 1B-1B647, tourist on Route27 at overpass. Camera borrowed by AP reporter. This is a really crummy YouTube version. As always, a link to the full mpg file is available to JREF'rs (just pm me).
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I received 2 DVD's from the FBI this morning as an interim release for FOIA 1078686-000. I have one converted to MPG and uploaded, but I'm trying to get the second one trimmed down in file size (wmv file) so that it can be accessed on the web (currently 700mb). I'll post a link for both, although the NE485 link may not be operative for a few hours while I trim it down.

These are the file descriptions as provided by the FBI. The witness face in NE418 is blurred out by the FBI Privacy review.
NE418 - One(1) VHS video cassette, Witness interviews near Pentagon after attack. (26 MB)
This witness claims he saw a plane fly over the Pentagon. No wait a minute, fly into the Pentagon, followed by a second white decoy jet. Whoops, wrong again, he says the second plane was a four-engine gray plane that veered off.
NE485 - One(1) VHS video cassette, labeled "9/11/2001", Footage of post-crash Pentagon crime scene obtained from Chief Mastin, Prince William County. (68 MB)
One interesting scene with the NTSB examining missile parts (or could those be plane parts?).

I highly recommend right-click, "save target as" due to the file size.
So you're saying... what? That neither video shows the plane-sized hologram ghosting into eventual nothingness over and beyond the Pentagon, a tiny (but clearly audible) trademarked Industrial Light & Magic *chime* sounding in the final frames...?!?

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Was there a Tape 1 of 1B-1B647? Too bad this guy didn't point the camera more to the left and catch Lloyd England planting those light poles.
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I'm still looking for that elusive hologram, but I have not found it yet (my brothers at the FBI did a good edit job). They sent me 5 more vids yesterday and I'm working on getting them up ASAP. I did a seperate thread for the DEA video, but the other 4 I'll post here.

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Was there a Tape 1 of 1B-1B647? Too bad this guy didn't point the camera more to the left and catch Lloyd England planting those light poles.
Yes sir, there is. It is longer and I'm getting it up to YouTube now. Should be ready in a few.
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This is not an easy process folks, and I really do resent CIT posting one of them on YouTube without crediting the source. If they have a problem with me, they could at least credit Scott who has invested many years and large sums of money to secure their release.
Wow. That pretty much appears to be par for the course for CIT and others like them. Let other people do all the work.
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Here is the second part of the earlier video. The sound works on this one and an AP reporter takes the camera in fairly close to the impact area.
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Wow, that last part sure was fascinating. Quite hard to take it all in. The first part is clearly the tourist video that the AP reporter partially taped over. So the sound is lacking in the original of part 2 as well?
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No, the sound is on the original. That is why I say the YouTube versions are crappy. By the way, the Tape 1 original has finished uploading.
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What horrific sound. I've never heard clipping as bad as this. It makes it hard to understand what is being said. In another thread, you mentioned an amateur newly released video mentioning the light poles....is it this one or another? Do you have more info on where to find that reference?

I see that the reporter and the tourist have a conversation at one point about the plane. "It was a plane?" "Yep I saw it coming down" "I thought I seen it back there too."
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In one of the next two that I'll be uploading tonight, the cameraman has a good shot of a light fixture on the pavement. It exhibits a shatter/debris field consistent with impact with the pavement from above. It is not something you would see if the light was "planted". Further, the debris from it in the lane would have been moved significantly if it had been "planted" the night before and had cars driving over it all night/morning.
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I have two additional FBI vids uploaded in raw form. I will not be converting these to crappy YouTubes, but anyone interested in them may send me a pm and I will provide links for your download pleasure for the mpg's.
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I have two additional FBI vids uploaded in raw form. I will not be converting these to crappy YouTubes, but anyone interested in them may send me a pm and I will provide links for your download pleasure for the mpg's.
Anything of any interest in 'em?
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Nothing other than what I explained to Mangoose above. One is a pool video from 9/11 pm, and the other is similar to the two already posted, but better quality. I did not see anything in them that was not already seen in other videos of the area post-impact. I have not however viewed them in great detail as yet.
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Old 4th March 2009, 02:55 PM   #34
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MercBezerk really enjoyed the videos at YouTube:

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Wow. That certainly disproved the north side and the flyover/flyby. What a joke. But I know, "John", it's all about producing a bulk of info and data supportive of the official story or imply it is supportive while you act like you are a veteran researcher that worked closely with us. You just keep reiterating how you are an "engineer" and handle "statistical processing", produce some fancy graphs and charts and use big "engineering" terms. Then you sound authoritative and genuine huh?
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It flew away. Ask Roosevelt Roberts.
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Have you even heard the phone you made with Craig? F*cking busted. You aren't even a good spy. "Collaborate" instead of "corroborate", "Vent" instead of "vet". You sound like a coked out ,brain dead CIA op. No you sound like a bumbling George Bush, "see I'm an engineer, I speak in engineerin' terms. I don't listen to witnesses, I pretend they don't matter while I reinforce the official data that is being piped thru me. I act as if there nothin' wrong with the data while I casually support it."
I am so glad someone appreciates the new materials
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Old 4th March 2009, 03:28 PM   #35
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Amazing footage, 911files.
But I cant see any MIB planting debris, just firefighters?
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Old 4th March 2009, 03:35 PM   #36
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Originally Posted by 911files View Post
MercBezerk really enjoyed the videos at YouTube:
I am so glad someone appreciates the new materials
Cripes, what the hell is wrong with Aldo? Fat on the brain?
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Old 4th March 2009, 03:47 PM   #37
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Here is the second part of the earlier video. The sound works on this one and an AP reporter takes the camera in fairly close to the impact area.
Incredible footage. Thanks for posting. Just a question, do you see any wreckage from Flight 77 in that clip?
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Do you see any dead bodies? No? Well there are some there, some inside. But how can that be if you can't see them on the video???

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Thanks. Yes, I do see some debris, but most of it would be expect in the helipad area. It hit the wall at an angle and what did not penetrate would have fanned out to the left. We can see that in videos of that area of the lawn and in the DCA ASR data. After impact, the airborne debris field is picked up in that area as well.

It is a phenomenon that I missed when I was examining the unexplained light source on the Citgo video. I am now inclined to think that it is somehow related, but I have not had a chance to work on that in recent months. Maybe after I get all of this new stuff processed and up I'll go back to that problem.
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Do you see any dead bodies? No? Well there are some there, some inside. But how can that be if you can't see them on the video???

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I'm not asking about the bodies, I'm asking about the plane.
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