Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environment - Page 10

Agatha · 26th November 2012, 08:27 AM

I don't think sushil_yadav reads any other posts - he or she makes little or no effort to discuss any point raised by anyone else.

It's a shame really, as this thread has the potential to be interesting.

TimCallahan · 26th November 2012, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by Agatha

I don't think sushil_yadav reads any other posts - he or she makes little or no effort to discuss any point raised by anyone else.

It's a shame really, as this thread has the potential to be interesting.

Because what you said in the hilited area is true, this thread is, and has been from its inception, an abysmal piece of crap. Its basic absurdity is that Sushi is using the internet to say he/she/it is against modern technology.

Okay, everyone, on the count of three, let's stop feeding the troll: one . . . two . . . three . . .

zeggman · 26th November 2012, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by sushil_yadav

There is only one cause of environmental destruction....Industrial Activity.

Also:

volcanic activity
earthquake activity
tornado activity
landslide activity
wildfire activity
tsunami activity
flood activity
hurricane activity
erosion activity
wildlife activity
meteorite activity
drought activity

Originally Posted by sushil_yadav

There is only one solution for saving environment .... Elimination of Industrial Activity.

Why not get the ball rolling by turning off your computer and donating it to a coral reef?

TimCallahan · 28th November 2012, 10:57 AM

Okay, Sushil, here's one last chance to prove you're not a troll and this thread is not just your way of jerking us around. I believe you've stated that we need to get the human population down to about 1/8 of what it is now within 20 years.

How do you propose we do this?

If you have no answer to this question, then this thread amounts to little more than saying we're doomed. If you come up with more of the BS of saying Western Culture has to find the solution, you're being dishonest, since you've already said that western culture is the cause of all the planet's ills.

Now is your chance to show us the way: Put up or shut up.

pakeha · 28th November 2012, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by sushil_yadav

..

Truth hurts......doesn't it???

The genocide carried out by the west in Asia, Africa and America during colonization.

The loot of thousands of tonnes of gold, silver and diamonds.....The loot, plunder and exploitation of natural resources.

The destruction of all local cultures and lifestyles.

There has been no justice, no punishment for centuries of crimes and atrocities committed by Western Civilization during the era of colonization.

Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environment

OK.
Just for the sake of discussion, I'll say you're completely right.
Now what do we do?

dafydd · 28th November 2012, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by pakeha

OK.
Just for the sake of discussion, I'll say you're completely right.
Now what do we do?

The extermination chambers are on your right.

bruto · 28th November 2012, 11:30 AM

I'm not sure why reduction of population to 1/8 of what it is is so incompatible with genocide and atrocity. Not efficient enough?

sushil_yadav · 21st December 2012, 06:23 PM

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When there was still time to save environment a whole century was wasted in the futile debate over Capitalism, Socialism and Communism.

Trying to save environment after 250 years of relentless Industrial Activity is like trying to revive a dead man.....There is hardly any environment left to save.

Industrial Activity destroys environment.....Where there is Industrial Activity there is environmental destruction.....Capitalism, Communism or Socialism doesn't matter at all.

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TimCallahan · 22nd December 2012, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by sushil_yadav

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When there was still time to save environment a whole century was wasted in the futile debate over Capitalism, Socialism and Communism.

Trying to save environment after 250 years of relentless Industrial Activity is like trying to revive a dead man.....There is hardly any environment left to save.

Industrial Activity destroys environment.....Where there is Industrial Activity there is environmental destruction.....Capitalism, Communism or Socialism doesn't matter at all.

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Edited by LashL:

Snipped for compliance with Rule 4. Please, do not copy and paste lengthy tracts of text available elsewhere. Instead, cite a short passage and provide a link to the source.

Okay, so you are saying that there is nothing we can do about it and that we are doomed. So, what's the point of continuing this thread?

dafydd · 22nd December 2012, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by TimCallahan

Okay, so you are saying that there is nothing we can do about it and that we are doomed. So, what's the point of continuing this thread?

No point. Let's go party like it's the end of the world!

bruto · 22nd December 2012, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by TimCallahan

Okay, so you are saying that there is nothing we can do about it and that we are doomed. So, what's the point of continuing this thread?

Sushil should close this thread and become an antinatalist. There
s a nice thread on this now. It's only a small jump from stupid futility to futile stupidity.

Dental Floss Tycoon · 22nd December 2012, 07:27 PM

Only if some of the larger countries could take a small page from the kiwis on dealing with conservation and other environmental issues. Small steps are a start.

sushil_yadav · 9th January 2013, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by dafydd

No point. Let's go party like it's the end of the world!

..

Eat, Drink and make Merry [ while the planet burns].

Consume... consume....consume....and destroy all ecosystems.

Why bother about nature/ environment?

Why worry about animals, trees, air, water and land?

The western God is going to build another world in 6 days.

And then there will be a big party on Sunday.

..

pakeha · 10th January 2013, 02:00 AM

Sushil's back!

I daresay there's some reason why this post appears after the Holiday season and with a diatribe, rather than suggestions for easing the burden on the planet's resources.

Lukraak_Sisser · 10th January 2013, 02:48 AM

Originally Posted by sushil_yadav

..

Eat, Drink and make Merry [ while the planet burns].

Consume... consume....consume....and destroy all ecosystems.

Why bother about nature/ environment?

Why worry about animals, trees, air, water and land?

The western God is going to build another world in 6 days.

And then there will be a big party on Sunday.

..

Why worry about it indeed?
Animals have been going extinct since they first appeared
So have trees
Air, water and land will all continue to exist regardless of what we do and shoud we much up the ecosystem SO badly we die off ourselves it will be back to a new normal one within a few hundred thousand years. (Untill increasing solar output sterilizes the planet)

dafydd · 10th January 2013, 02:57 AM

Originally Posted by sushil_yadav

..

Eat, Drink and make Merry [ while the planet burns].

Consume... consume....consume....and destroy all ecosystems.

Why bother about nature/ environment?

Why worry about animals, trees, air, water and land?

The western God is going to build another world in 6 days.

And then there will be a big party on Sunday.

..

Consume away. The planet can take its chances!

26th November 2012, 08:27 AM	#361
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26th November 2012, 11:19 AM	#362
TimCallahan Philosopher Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5,128	Originally Posted by Agatha I don't think sushil_yadav reads any other posts - he or she makes little or no effort to discuss any point raised by anyone else. It's a shame really, as this thread has the potential to be interesting. Because what you said in the hilited area is true, this thread is, and has been from its inception, an abysmal piece of crap. Its basic absurdity is that Sushi is using the internet to say he/she/it is against modern technology. Okay, everyone, on the count of three, let's stop feeding the troll: one . . . two . . . three . . .
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26th November 2012, 01:29 PM	#363
zeggman Graduate Poster Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,761	Originally Posted by sushil_yadav There is only one cause of environmental destruction....Industrial Activity. Also: volcanic activity earthquake activity tornado activity landslide activity wildfire activity tsunami activity flood activity hurricane activity erosion activity wildlife activity meteorite activity drought activity Originally Posted by sushil_yadav There is only one solution for saving environment .... Elimination of Industrial Activity. Why not get the ball rolling by turning off your computer and donating it to a coral reef?
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28th November 2012, 10:57 AM	#364
TimCallahan Philosopher Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5,128	Okay, Sushil, here's one last chance to prove you're not a troll and this thread is not just your way of jerking us around. I believe you've stated that we need to get the human population down to about 1/8 of what it is now within 20 years. How do you propose we do this? If you have no answer to this question, then this thread amounts to little more than saying we're doomed. If you come up with more of the BS of saying Western Culture has to find the solution, you're being dishonest, since you've already said that western culture is the cause of all the planet's ills. Now is your chance to show us the way: Put up or shut up.
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28th November 2012, 11:12 AM	#365
pakeha Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 7,988	Originally Posted by sushil_yadav .. Truth hurts......doesn't it??? The genocide carried out by the west in Asia, Africa and America during colonization. The loot of thousands of tonnes of gold, silver and diamonds.....The loot, plunder and exploitation of natural resources. The destruction of all local cultures and lifestyles. There has been no justice, no punishment for centuries of crimes and atrocities committed by Western Civilization during the era of colonization. Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environment OK. Just for the sake of discussion, I'll say you're completely right. Now what do we do?
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28th November 2012, 11:20 AM	#366
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,454	Originally Posted by pakeha OK. Just for the sake of discussion, I'll say you're completely right. Now what do we do? The extermination chambers are on your right.
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28th November 2012, 11:30 AM	#367
bruto Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: way way north of Diddy Wah Diddy Posts: 11,181	I'm not sure why reduction of population to 1/8 of what it is is so incompatible with genocide and atrocity. Not efficient enough?
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22nd December 2012, 12:35 PM	#370
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,454	Originally Posted by TimCallahan Okay, so you are saying that there is nothing we can do about it and that we are doomed. So, what's the point of continuing this thread? No point. Let's go party like it's the end of the world!
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22nd December 2012, 04:00 PM	#371
bruto Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: way way north of Diddy Wah Diddy Posts: 11,181	Originally Posted by TimCallahan Okay, so you are saying that there is nothing we can do about it and that we are doomed. So, what's the point of continuing this thread? Sushil should close this thread and become an antinatalist. There s a nice thread on this now. It's only a small jump from stupid futility to futile stupidity.
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22nd December 2012, 07:27 PM	#372
Dental Floss Tycoon New Blood Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 4	Only if some of the larger countries could take a small page from the kiwis on dealing with conservation and other environmental issues. Small steps are a start.

9th January 2013, 09:04 PM	#373
sushil_yadav Scholar Join Date: May 2006 Location: India Posts: 62	Originally Posted by dafydd No point. Let's go party like it's the end of the world! .. Eat, Drink and make Merry [ while the planet burns]. Consume... consume....consume....and destroy all ecosystems. Why bother about nature/ environment? Why worry about animals, trees, air, water and land? The western God is going to build another world in 6 days. And then there will be a big party on Sunday. ..
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10th January 2013, 02:00 AM	#374
pakeha Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 7,988	Sushil's back! I daresay there's some reason why this post appears after the Holiday season and with a diatribe, rather than suggestions for easing the burden on the planet's resources.
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10th January 2013, 02:48 AM	#375
Lukraak_Sisser Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,619	Originally Posted by sushil_yadav .. Eat, Drink and make Merry [ while the planet burns]. Consume... consume....consume....and destroy all ecosystems. Why bother about nature/ environment? Why worry about animals, trees, air, water and land? The western God is going to build another world in 6 days. And then there will be a big party on Sunday. .. Why worry about it indeed? Animals have been going extinct since they first appeared So have trees Air, water and land will all continue to exist regardless of what we do and shoud we much up the ecosystem SO badly we die off ourselves it will be back to a new normal one within a few hundred thousand years. (Untill increasing solar output sterilizes the planet)

10th January 2013, 02:57 AM	#376
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,454	Originally Posted by sushil_yadav .. Eat, Drink and make Merry [ while the planet burns]. Consume... consume....consume....and destroy all ecosystems. Why bother about nature/ environment? Why worry about animals, trees, air, water and land? The western God is going to build another world in 6 days. And then there will be a big party on Sunday. .. Consume away. The planet can take its chances!
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