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Old 28th January 2013, 10:03 PM   #121
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Originally Posted by rocketdodger View Post
Is it possible that all these arguments against stricter controls are just shortsighted?

Seems to me that the same sorts of arguments could have been made against the automatic weapon ban back in the first half of the century. Fast forward 70 years, look what happened.
There were never many automatic weapons in civilians hands to begin with, compared to tens of millions of semi-autos today.

Bonnie and Clyde, btw, stole their automatic weapons from a National Guard armory.
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Old 28th January 2013, 10:13 PM   #122
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Originally Posted by monty1 View Post
You know the answer to that question.
I know how I would answer that question. I do not, however, know how Tricky would answer that question. And so I do not actually know what he meant when he used the term.

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But what difference does it make now with millions of them out there in the hands of stupid people who fantasize about war and killing people.
That is not true by the definition of "military-style weapon" that I would choose. You have obviously chosen a different definition. What is your definition? I find it rather telling that you won't actually provide a definition either, despite the enthusiasm with which you use the term.

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And some of you Americans think North Korea is insane!!!!!
And... rational thought just died a little with that sentence.
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Old 28th January 2013, 10:14 PM   #123
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(ETA: Responding to Wildcat, not the enthusiastic newcomer nor to Ziggurat) Yep. The decline of "gangster guns" had everything to do with the end of Prohibition and declining corruption in law enforcement, and what problem there was had largely subsided before the NFA even passed.

The NFA adding a $200 tax on certain weaponry wasn't going to make much difference to big-time gangsters anyway, even if they did purchase them legally.
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Old 29th January 2013, 06:57 AM   #124
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Armed guards around your schools seems to be the only answer and that's exactly what the gooned out NRA is suggesting.

So what do you call a people who 'need' to protect their children in their schools?

And some of you Americans think North Korea is insane!!!!!
I think you're grossly over-exaggerating. "Armed guards" doesn't mean men dressed in SWAT gear patrolling perimeters. It could simply be uniformed or plain-clothed officers discretely wandering the halls and monitoring security screens.

We had them at my high school when I attended in the late-80's. This was before "school-shootings" even entered our lexicon. They were present to keep kids from skipping class and keeping fights to a minimum (it was a public city school, after all). One school system in the suburbs employees security and dresses them the same as the janitorial staff.

Point is...there is a way to make it work with very little visual impact on students.
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