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jaydeehess · 29th December 2012, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by Clayton Moore

You're forgetting people enjoy being creative. Then maybe not.

Besides, what are you talking about? I didn't chose any numbers.

Yes, you chose to make shinola up about why to choose 52. I chose to make up equally brown shinola, in fact out of the same bottle, to come up with another number.

Why because its all shinola, the speculation on why these three numbers would be picked, and the original post.

Seems you are correct , some people like to be creative. Its shows in the OP.

You forgot that I also said:

Originally Posted by jaydeehess

IF there were any verifiable source for this supposed study, if names could be provided, of the researchers involved or the institution, then at least there could be some credibility afforded this incredible tale.

dafydd · 29th December 2012, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by Clayton Moore

If you asked a random group of people what they associate with the number 52 I'm sure the predominant first response would be weeks in a year.

You are approaching this from the wrong end.

tsig · 29th December 2012, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by phiwum

I wonder how many cards are in a suit.

!

A lot of them if a magician's wearing it.

Clayton Moore · 29th December 2012, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by jaydeehess

Yes, you chose to make shinola up about why to choose 52. I chose to make up equally brown shinola, in fact out of the same bottle, to come up with another number.

Why because its all shinola, the speculation on why these three numbers would be picked, and the original post.

Seems you are correct , some people like to be creative. Its shows in the OP.

You forgot that I also said:

why to choose 52

No why 52 was chosen.

The point of OP was to solicit explanations of how so many

Quote:

a statistically significant majority of respondents chose their solution as

39 + 13 = 52

did not choose the simplest response of single digits.

Which begs the question, why isn't this thread considered behavioral science?
It's certainly not a conspiracy of any kind.

dafydd · 29th December 2012, 03:19 PM

The soldier replied: "Well sir, when I see the ace, I think of what they call frozen water in Cheltenham.
When I see the two, I think of the two stomachs of half a cow.
And when I see the three, I think of the number of horsemen of the apocalypse when Pestilence is having a day off to run in the 2.45 at Ascot.
And when I look at the four, I think of the number of legs on part of a centipede.
When I see the five, I think of the number of trotters on a pig, and a spare one we've got in the fridge.
When I look at the six, I think of the number of votes Norway have got in the entire history of the Eurovision Song Contest.
When I look at the seven, I think of the Ten Commandments.
When I see the eight, I think of the number of trotters on a pig, cos I've just ate 'em.
When I think of the nine, I think of the number of trotters there would be on three horses if they were all pigs and had a leg missing.
When I look at the ten, I think of the number of Lords a-leaping some swine left on the doorstep after Christmas.
And when I see the Jack, I think of the number of trotters on a pig if it's left overnight in a car park in Brixton.
When I see the Queen, I think perhaps I'm in the wrong bus queue.
And when I see the king, I think: What's Elvis doing working in Tesco?
And when I see the four suits, it reminds me how many suits I'd have in the wardrobe if I had another four, and a wardrobe.
When I add up the number of cards, it comes to fifty-two, the number of weeks in the last half of last year and the first half of this year.
There are twelve picture cards, the number of eyebrows on six armadillos.
When I add up the spots, it comes to three hundred and sixty five, and I am reminded of a small bottle of Thousand Island dressing.
So you see, my deck of cards serves me as both a bauble and an Armagnac.

dafydd · 29th December 2012, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by Clayton Moore

why to choose 52

No why 52 was chosen.

The point of OP was to solicit explanations of how so many

did not choose the simplest response of single digits.

Which begs the question, why isn't this thread considered behavioral science?
It's certainly not a conspiracy of any kind.

There is no proof that any of this took place, so 52 does not figure in it.

jaydeehess · 29th December 2012, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by Clayton Moore

why to choose 52

No why 52 was chosen.

The point of OP was to solicit explanations of how so many

did not choose the simplest response of single digits.

Which begs the question, why isn't this thread considered behavioral science?
It's certainly not a conspiracy of any kind.

ETA: We have the word of exactly one person in this entire world that this study ever took place, that anyone ever chose 39, 13, and 52 as components of an equation. ONE PERSON Clayton. No one else, anywhere. When questioned about this he turns to insult as a reply.

The point I have made, as well as others, is that there is NO EVIDENCE at all that the entire OP is not utter Bovine Spackle

Do we really need to examine why B.S. looks the way the producer of said material constructed it?

If you CHOOSE to buy into it all I need to know now is what city would you like to own a bridge in? I'll arrange it for you.

As for why its in this subforum, I don't know. Perhaps because we do not have one for make-believe

jaydeehess · 29th December 2012, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Yes, you chose to make shinola up about why to choose 52

.

Originally Posted by Clayton Moore

why to choose 52

No why 52 was chosen.

.

Changing tense concerning the same event makes a difference?
OK, you made up shinola as to why 52 was chosen in this incredible and unbelieveable scenario.

abaddon · 29th December 2012, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by jaydeehess

ETA: We have the word of exactly one person in this entire world that this study ever took place, that anyone ever chose 39, 13, and 52 as components of an equation. ONE PERSON Clayton. No one else, anywhere. When questioned about this he turns to insult as a reply.

The point I have made, as well as others, is that there is NO EVIDENCE at all that the entire OP is not utter Bovine Spackle

I will buy that.

An unknown study by unknown scientists, with unknown subjects, unknown protocols and unknown follow up? convincing? I think not.

swright777 · 29th December 2012, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by dafydd

The soldier replied:
<snip amusing rewrite of Deck of Cards lyrics

>

I see what you did there Tex.

Molinaro · 31st December 2012, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by Mashuna

There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't.

There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand trinary, those who don't, and those who thought this was a binary joke.

DrDave · 7th January 2013, 04:53 AM

Disagree, there are only 2 types of people. Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data

jaydeehess · 7th January 2013, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by DrDave

Disagree, there are only 2 types of people. Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data

Oy! I must be tired, it took me a full 30 seconds to 'get it'.

Clayton Moore · 8th January 2013, 12:13 AM

Originally Posted by jaydeehess

.

Changing tense concerning the same event makes a difference?
OK, you made up shinola as to why 52 was chosen in this incredible and unbelieveable scenario.

It's called blue skying. Somebody presents a scenario. And you provide logical paths to and from, before and after, or whatever is requested.

If one gets all pissy about a riddle they lose their key card to the think tank.

jaydeehess · 8th January 2013, 07:39 AM

Originally Posted by Clayton Moore

It's called blue skying. Somebody presents a scenario. And you provide logical paths to and from, before and after, or whatever is requested.

If one gets all pissy about a riddle they lose their key card to the think tank.

glad you can admit to getting 'pissy' concerning my choice of tense
apology accepted and you can have your keycard back

however nothing in the OP represents a plausible scenario, thus there can be no logical path to it.

If I claimed that a random poll found that 75% of the general populace believed they were zebras in human form would you try to find a logic to that result or conclude I was making it up?
The OP gives us no reason to believe its veracity and the poster fights all queries for backing the story up. Given the very illogical claim made, some evidence beyond the bald claim must be brought forth. At best I think the poster was trying to gauge the gullibility of JREF posters, at worst he is a troll having a laugh

Jack by the hedge · 8th January 2013, 08:00 AM

The one logical path to the scenario was that he just made it up. We presented that as an explanation. So we win, right?

Clayton Moore · 8th January 2013, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by jaydeehess

however nothing in the OP represents a plausible scenario, thus there can be no logical path to it.

The OP asks for a scenario.

Jack by the hedge · 8th January 2013, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by Clayton Moore

The OP asks for a scenario.

No it doesn't. The OP presents itself as factual but invites serious doubt about its truthfulness.

jaydeehess · 8th January 2013, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by Clayton Moore

The OP asks for a scenario.

the OP presents a scenario that is put forth as an actual event but there is no evidence whatsoever that it ever did occur.

Like I said, if I claimed that a valid poll was conducted and found that 75% of the population believed they were actually zebras in human form would you try to explain why people largely belive this, or would you correctly conclude that the claim is a figment of my imagination?

Mycroft · 13th January 2013, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by jaydeehess

Oy! I must be tired, it took me a full 30 seconds to 'get it'.

So you have experience as both types of people.

29th December 2012, 10:11 AM	#162
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,454	Originally Posted by Clayton Moore If you asked a random group of people what they associate with the number 52 I'm sure the predominant first response would be weeks in a year. You are approaching this from the wrong end.
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29th December 2012, 03:18 PM	#164
Clayton Moore Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 6,175	Originally Posted by jaydeehess Yes, you chose to make shinola up about why to choose 52. I chose to make up equally brown shinola, in fact out of the same bottle, to come up with another number. Why because its all shinola, the speculation on why these three numbers would be picked, and the original post. Seems you are correct , some people like to be creative. Its shows in the OP. You forgot that I also said: why to choose 52 No why 52 was chosen. The point of OP was to solicit explanations of how so many Quote: a statistically significant majority of respondents chose their solution as 39 + 13 = 52 did not choose the simplest response of single digits. Which begs the question, why isn't this thread considered behavioral science? It's certainly not a conspiracy of any kind.
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29th December 2012, 03:19 PM	#165
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,454	The soldier replied: "Well sir, when I see the ace, I think of what they call frozen water in Cheltenham. When I see the two, I think of the two stomachs of half a cow. And when I see the three, I think of the number of horsemen of the apocalypse when Pestilence is having a day off to run in the 2.45 at Ascot. And when I look at the four, I think of the number of legs on part of a centipede. When I see the five, I think of the number of trotters on a pig, and a spare one we've got in the fridge. When I look at the six, I think of the number of votes Norway have got in the entire history of the Eurovision Song Contest. When I look at the seven, I think of the Ten Commandments. When I see the eight, I think of the number of trotters on a pig, cos I've just ate 'em. When I think of the nine, I think of the number of trotters there would be on three horses if they were all pigs and had a leg missing. When I look at the ten, I think of the number of Lords a-leaping some swine left on the doorstep after Christmas. And when I see the Jack, I think of the number of trotters on a pig if it's left overnight in a car park in Brixton. When I see the Queen, I think perhaps I'm in the wrong bus queue. And when I see the king, I think: What's Elvis doing working in Tesco? And when I see the four suits, it reminds me how many suits I'd have in the wardrobe if I had another four, and a wardrobe. When I add up the number of cards, it comes to fifty-two, the number of weeks in the last half of last year and the first half of this year. There are twelve picture cards, the number of eyebrows on six armadillos. When I add up the spots, it comes to three hundred and sixty five, and I am reminded of a small bottle of Thousand Island dressing. So you see, my deck of cards serves me as both a bauble and an Armagnac.
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29th December 2012, 03:21 PM	#166
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,454	Originally Posted by Clayton Moore why to choose 52 No why 52 was chosen. The point of OP was to solicit explanations of how so many did not choose the simplest response of single digits. Which begs the question, why isn't this thread considered behavioral science? It's certainly not a conspiracy of any kind. There is no proof that any of this took place, so 52 does not figure in it.
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29th December 2012, 04:13 PM	#167
jaydeehess Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: I beedunk 40 miles from the border Posts: 10,803	Originally Posted by Clayton Moore why to choose 52 No why 52 was chosen. The point of OP was to solicit explanations of how so many did not choose the simplest response of single digits. Which begs the question, why isn't this thread considered behavioral science? It's certainly not a conspiracy of any kind. ETA: We have the word of exactly one person in this entire world that this study ever took place, that anyone ever chose 39, 13, and 52 as components of an equation. ONE PERSON Clayton. No one else, anywhere. When questioned about this he turns to insult as a reply. The point I have made, as well as others, is that there is NO EVIDENCE at all that the entire OP is not utter Bovine Spackle Do we really need to examine why B.S. looks the way the producer of said material constructed it? If you CHOOSE to buy into it all I need to know now is what city would you like to own a bridge in? I'll arrange it for you. As for why its in this subforum, I don't know. Perhaps because we do not have one for make-believe
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29th December 2012, 10:08 AM	#161
jaydeehess Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: I beedunk 40 miles from the border Posts: 10,803	Originally Posted by Clayton Moore You're forgetting people enjoy being creative. Then maybe not. Besides, what are you talking about? I didn't chose any numbers. Yes, you chose to make shinola up about why to choose 52. I chose to make up equally brown shinola, in fact out of the same bottle, to come up with another number. Why because its all shinola, the speculation on why these three numbers would be picked, and the original post. Seems you are correct , some people like to be creative. Its shows in the OP. You forgot that I also said: Originally Posted by jaydeehess IF there were any verifiable source for this supposed study, if names could be provided, of the researchers involved or the institution, then at least there could be some credibility afforded this incredible tale.

29th December 2012, 11:13 AM	#163
tsig a carbon based life-form Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 26,723	Originally Posted by phiwum I wonder how many cards are in a suit. ! A lot of them if a magician's wearing it.

29th December 2012, 04:23 PM	#168
jaydeehess Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: I beedunk 40 miles from the border Posts: 10,803	Quote: Yes, you chose to make shinola up about why to choose 52 . Originally Posted by Clayton Moore why to choose 52 No why 52 was chosen. . Changing tense concerning the same event makes a difference? OK, you made up shinola as to why 52 was chosen in this incredible and unbelieveable scenario.

29th December 2012, 04:24 PM	#169
abaddon Illuminator Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 3,563	Originally Posted by jaydeehess ETA: We have the word of exactly one person in this entire world that this study ever took place, that anyone ever chose 39, 13, and 52 as components of an equation. ONE PERSON Clayton. No one else, anywhere. When questioned about this he turns to insult as a reply. The point I have made, as well as others, is that there is NO EVIDENCE at all that the entire OP is not utter Bovine Spackle I will buy that. An unknown study by unknown scientists, with unknown subjects, unknown protocols and unknown follow up? convincing? I think not.
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29th December 2012, 04:58 PM	#170
swright777 Muse Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Pennsylvania, USA Posts: 572	Originally Posted by dafydd The soldier replied: <snip amusing rewrite of Deck of Cards lyrics > I see what you did there Tex.

31st December 2012, 12:58 PM	#171
Molinaro Illuminator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 3,027	Originally Posted by Mashuna There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't. There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand trinary, those who don't, and those who thought this was a binary joke.
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7th January 2013, 04:53 AM	#172
DrDave Guest Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Geneva Posts: 3,110	Disagree, there are only 2 types of people. Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data

7th January 2013, 03:19 PM	#173
jaydeehess Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: I beedunk 40 miles from the border Posts: 10,803	Originally Posted by DrDave Disagree, there are only 2 types of people. Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data Oy! I must be tired, it took me a full 30 seconds to 'get it'.

8th January 2013, 12:13 AM	#174
Clayton Moore Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 6,175	Originally Posted by jaydeehess . Changing tense concerning the same event makes a difference? OK, you made up shinola as to why 52 was chosen in this incredible and unbelieveable scenario. It's called blue skying. Somebody presents a scenario. And you provide logical paths to and from, before and after, or whatever is requested. If one gets all pissy about a riddle they lose their key card to the think tank.
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8th January 2013, 07:39 AM	#175
jaydeehess Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: I beedunk 40 miles from the border Posts: 10,803	Originally Posted by Clayton Moore It's called blue skying. Somebody presents a scenario. And you provide logical paths to and from, before and after, or whatever is requested. If one gets all pissy about a riddle they lose their key card to the think tank. glad you can admit to getting 'pissy' concerning my choice of tense apology accepted and you can have your keycard back however nothing in the OP represents a plausible scenario, thus there can be no logical path to it. If I claimed that a random poll found that 75% of the general populace believed they were zebras in human form would you try to find a logic to that result or conclude I was making it up? The OP gives us no reason to believe its veracity and the poster fights all queries for backing the story up. Given the very illogical claim made, some evidence beyond the bald claim must be brought forth. At best I think the poster was trying to gauge the gullibility of JREF posters, at worst he is a troll having a laugh
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8th January 2013, 08:00 AM	#176
Jack by the hedge Safely Ignored Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,416	The one logical path to the scenario was that he just made it up. We presented that as an explanation. So we win, right?

8th January 2013, 08:11 AM	#177
Clayton Moore Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 6,175	Originally Posted by jaydeehess however nothing in the OP represents a plausible scenario, thus there can be no logical path to it. The OP asks for a scenario.
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8th January 2013, 09:04 AM	#178
Jack by the hedge Safely Ignored Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,416	Originally Posted by Clayton Moore The OP asks for a scenario. No it doesn't. The OP presents itself as factual but invites serious doubt about its truthfulness.

8th January 2013, 02:34 PM	#179
jaydeehess Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: I beedunk 40 miles from the border Posts: 10,803	Originally Posted by Clayton Moore The OP asks for a scenario. the OP presents a scenario that is put forth as an actual event but there is no evidence whatsoever that it ever did occur. Like I said, if I claimed that a valid poll was conducted and found that 75% of the population believed they were actually zebras in human form would you try to explain why people largely belive this, or would you correctly conclude that the claim is a figment of my imagination?

13th January 2013, 05:27 PM	#180
Mycroft High Priest of Ed Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 16,105	Originally Posted by jaydeehess Oy! I must be tired, it took me a full 30 seconds to 'get it'. So you have experience as both types of people.
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