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Philosopher
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Los Angeles Area
Posts: 8,571
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StopSylviaBrowne - Email: "My Experiences in the Early 70s With Sylvia Browne"
New article up:
http://www.stopsylvia.com/arti...iabrowne.shtml |
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Who is "Kaz?" Read about her at www.StopKaz.com. Curious about Sylvia Browne? Read about her at www.StopSylvia.com. Ever wonder "What's the Harm?" with psychics, alternative medicine, etc? |
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Illuminator
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 4,703
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What an intelligent and articulate person. She deserves a big hug and a good handshake.
That's a really great email. How nice of her. |
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Scholar
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Deep South
Posts: 91
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Another great one, Mr. Lancaster!
I liked that lady - her "listen, I have kids to raise, I don't have time for your nonsense" attitude was refreshing. I can relate to her feelings, when someone latches onto you and acts like they know you better than they do - not that I've ever had a scary, clown-faced, fraud try to be my instant best friend - but people like that send up huge red flags. This woman was smart to get out of the way of that maw when she did. |
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Graduate Poster
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,267
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Interesting letter. I do wish the woman would read some of Sylvia's books because it would also be interesting to hear how drastically her philosophy has changed since those days. Not that I would wish that job on anyone. But I note this woman in a round-about way backs up what I've said about the mother God idea not having come around until later.
It does help put Sylvia in perspective as the small-time fraud she would have remained had Montel not intervened. |
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The Hupsu Detective
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: If I told the aliens could find me, and you know they read this forum
Posts: 20,640
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Wow!!
good work Robert |
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"The Bible is like a person, if you torture it long enough you can get it to say anything" (some minister on National Geographic! I don't know his name but he rocks in my book) WWW.BADALIEN.ORG - not all the buttons work yet, and the science content is coming...but it's ALIVE! |
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Critical Thinker
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Indiana
Posts: 372
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I must say that Sylvia Browne has taught her "Ministers" at Novus in Campbell how to sucker people in just like she tried with this email author.
I can't relate how many times Prelate Michael McClellan or Cardinal Darren English (both Board Members of Novus Spiritus) said something very similar to "I needed to start concentrating on how “WE” were going to grow “OUR” work here on this side"," God had sent me to her because HE wanted the two of us to work together to spread the “Word” throughout the world" and such garbage.
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This article, and this email, just proves that Sylvia has always been a con, and has perfected her career over the past 30 plus years. And she has done so while reaping huge financial benefits, such as the multiple high dollar properties, houses, condos, and apartments that Sylvia and her son Chris own. I thank this person for sharing her story with you Robert, and I must shudder because this person knew Sylvia before she had her plastic surgery ![]() Rob Samuels PastBrowneFan |
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Critical Thinker
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Indiana
Posts: 372
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As for Sylvias "church", I still claim that it is only a front for the Sylvia Browne Corporation, Sylvia Browne Enterprises, and was a means for Sylvia to make a fortune off of book sales, hypnosis, classes and such.
In Novus, the supposed "church", you must buy Sylvias books, CD's, Products, and are not allowed to discuss or read anything else other than what Sylvia, or her son Chris, put out. If Sylvia Browne truly was "on a mission from God" to spread her message and to "bring back the Mother God to this world", then she would have grown her "church", for she had hundreds of people who were willing to become ministers around the country, yet she was only interested in pumping out books and collecting royalties, lecturing and raking in money, and promoting her books on Montel, not her "religion". A Novus service in Campbell is like an infomercial for Sylvia, with her product table set up prominantely in the back, with sales pitches of the newest book being made from the pulpit, and yet you rarely see Sylvia or her sons ever attend any church services, since they can't make nearly the amount of money they can from readings and lectures. Sylvia is a fraud, her church is a fraud, and her "Board of Directors" are all accomplices in helping to emotionally and financially rape their victims. |
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Fire Warden
Tagger
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Planet Earth
Posts: 9,810
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This article is another nail in SB's coffin. |
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Scholar
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Deep South
Posts: 91
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Illustrated Infidel
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Behind my camera
Posts: 13,769
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Graduate Poster
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,267
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I knew her then, too - In fact, I'm the one who sent the lovely picture on your avatar to Robert. It was taken around the time of my first reading with Sylvia, in the late 1980s.Speaking of Sylvia being a con artist and fraud, it occurs to me that she was pretty broke after she and Dal got caught in the securities scam (I don't know if you remember, but she tried to blame it on him, saying afterward that he had become a dark entity and his guide Raheim had defected over to her. She was totally innocent, according to her - in fact, Francine tried to portray this as yet another incident of Sylvia being martyred). In more recent years, she's degenerated into tax fraud, keeping two sets of books, not bothering to keep the money from the nonprofit separate from the corporation, etc. So it's always possible that she will lose it all again if she gets caught a second time. I think that would be a nice, fitting piece of justice, don't you? |
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Pac-Man
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 5,589
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What a great read! This woman knows how to tell a story, great that she contacted Robert after finding his web site via Google.
Big surprise, SB was talking out of her [censored] back then just as she does today. Even simple 50:50 guesses like boy or girl she can't get right. |
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Member: Simpson 15 + 7
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Maryland, USA
Posts: 4,514
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Another great article, and kudos to the woman for telling her story.
A side point, is your second item in the "Background"
Originally Posted by StopSylviaBrowne.com
This seems to be a commong theme, once praise stops so does SBs concern and or friendship; SB dropped her like a hot potato and moved on to the next victim. With an endless pool of “wanna be” believers, it is a tough task to get them to look at SB past |
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As film noir: Brick Locknar, Genius Sleuth or Cool Hand Lock As Saturday morning serial adventure: Brick Locknar of the Canadian Mounties As a Pirate: The Dread Pirate Brick Locknar, no one of consequence Ex-defendant in Simpson v. Randi, et al. | StopSylvia.com
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Philosopher
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Los Angeles Area
Posts: 8,571
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Agreed!
Thanks, Hawthorne. Yeahm, that would be "above and beyond." I try not to punish people for helping me!
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Thanks Kitty, but all I did was give this woman a platform. I wish I could get some first-hand accounts of this, since Browne has stated many times, both on Montel and in books, that she has never ever met anyone who was famous in a past life.
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No reason to believe that they are incorrect, but logically, either one could be. I try to take this into account when writing the email articles. Thus the disclaimer of sorts "one person's account..." I have taken to putting atop every email article. It would be disingenuous and unfair of me to treat emails as incontrovertible evidence of something. Yes, thanks. Indeed it was you!
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Who is "Kaz?" Read about her at www.StopKaz.com. Curious about Sylvia Browne? Read about her at www.StopSylvia.com. Ever wonder "What's the Harm?" with psychics, alternative medicine, etc? |
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Graduate Poster
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,267
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Member: Simpson 15 + 7
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Maryland, USA
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As film noir: Brick Locknar, Genius Sleuth or Cool Hand Lock As Saturday morning serial adventure: Brick Locknar of the Canadian Mounties As a Pirate: The Dread Pirate Brick Locknar, no one of consequence Ex-defendant in Simpson v. Randi, et al. | StopSylvia.com
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Scholar
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Chicagoish
Posts: 76
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Where is a 60 Minutes investigation when you need one?
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Muse
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Here, on my way to there.
Posts: 701
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Robert,
I just read the story - good work, and thanks to the writer. But in you analysis I think you understate the value of this correspondent. True, it's another in the MANY examples of her being inaccurate (88% correct?). However, it easily shows how she worked her way into people's lives and perfected her con, she's changed her story (also documented many times on your site with the Aramaic prayer), used other people, etc... This is a great glimpse from 31 years ago, when a career as con artist can develop into many different things. With her, she found the public ready and willing to believe her psychic stories, and hand over money LEGALLY (Well, it's a donation!). With some con artists, it has lead to robbery, theft, embezzlement and even murder. A recent Baltimore Sun newspaper series on a Cindy McKay shows to other side to decepetion of people ( http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nat...,1850003.story ) I hope you can get more input from people from early in her career. Good work!! |
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Wuse
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Tralfamadore
Posts: 1,313
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Another great article/email. I think this really gives a glimpse into how someone can innocently be taken in by her. And to think what might have happened had Sylvia actually got a couple of those right...
I think a timeline would be interesting, too. I knew about the securities scam, but didn't think about when it happened. |
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“I don't even know how to count.” -- Sylvia BrowneThis is invisible.“We're playing for blood, the stake is EARTH.” -- L. Ron HubbardThis is invisible.“I don't feel strong.” -- Uri Geller
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