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Old 28th April 2008, 10:06 AM   #1
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StopSylviaBrowne - Email: "My Experiences in the Early 70s With Sylvia Browne"

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Email: "My Experiences in the Early 70s With Sylvia Browne"
Notes on Browne from her early years as a professional "psychic."
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Old 28th April 2008, 11:07 AM   #2
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What an intelligent and articulate person. She deserves a big hug and a good handshake.

That's a really great email. How nice of her.
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Old 28th April 2008, 02:27 PM   #3
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Another great one, Mr. Lancaster!

I liked that lady - her "listen, I have kids to raise, I don't have time for your nonsense" attitude was refreshing. I can relate to her feelings, when someone latches onto you and acts like they know you better than they do - not that I've ever had a scary, clown-faced, fraud try to be my instant best friend - but people like that send up huge red flags. This woman was smart to get out of the way of that maw when she did.
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Old 28th April 2008, 07:11 PM   #4
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Interesting letter. I do wish the woman would read some of Sylvia's books because it would also be interesting to hear how drastically her philosophy has changed since those days. Not that I would wish that job on anyone. But I note this woman in a round-about way backs up what I've said about the mother God idea not having come around until later.

It does help put Sylvia in perspective as the small-time fraud she would have remained had Montel not intervened.
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Old 28th April 2008, 07:50 PM   #5
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Wow!!

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Old 28th April 2008, 08:26 PM   #6
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I must say that Sylvia Browne has taught her "Ministers" at Novus in Campbell how to sucker people in just like she tried with this email author.

I can't relate how many times Prelate Michael McClellan or Cardinal Darren English (both Board Members of Novus Spiritus) said something very similar to "I needed to start concentrating on how “WE” were going to grow “OUR” work here on this side"," God had sent me to her because HE wanted the two of us to work together to spread the “Word” throughout the world" and such garbage.

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Part of Sylvia’s con job was to tell me that she and I had always been sisters throughout many previous lives and that we were actually psychic twins on the “other side” which was why she needed me as her “soul mate sister” to help spread all these wonderful things that we could do together throughout the world.
I must admit that I laughed when I read this, especially since Sylvia likes to tie herself to people via past lives so much. From what I have been told, she claims that one minister whom she attempted to steal a building from was her daughter-in-law in a past life; Sylvia was Mary the mother of Jesus, and this Minister was Mary Magdaline, the wife of Jesus. And of course the report of Sylvia telling a select group of early Ministers that she was the soul mate of Lucifer.

This article, and this email, just proves that Sylvia has always been a con, and has perfected her career over the past 30 plus years. And she has done so while reaping huge financial benefits, such as the multiple high dollar properties, houses, condos, and apartments that Sylvia and her son Chris own.

I thank this person for sharing her story with you Robert, and I must shudder because this person knew Sylvia before she had her plastic surgery

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Old 28th April 2008, 08:33 PM   #7
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As for Sylvias "church", I still claim that it is only a front for the Sylvia Browne Corporation, Sylvia Browne Enterprises, and was a means for Sylvia to make a fortune off of book sales, hypnosis, classes and such.

In Novus, the supposed "church", you must buy Sylvias books, CD's, Products, and are not allowed to discuss or read anything else other than what Sylvia, or her son Chris, put out.

If Sylvia Browne truly was "on a mission from God" to spread her message and to "bring back the Mother God to this world", then she would have grown her "church", for she had hundreds of people who were willing to become ministers around the country, yet she was only interested in pumping out books and collecting royalties, lecturing and raking in money, and promoting her books on Montel, not her "religion".

A Novus service in Campbell is like an infomercial for Sylvia, with her product table set up prominantely in the back, with sales pitches of the newest book being made from the pulpit, and yet you rarely see Sylvia or her sons ever attend any church services, since they can't make nearly the amount of money they can from readings and lectures.

Sylvia is a fraud, her church is a fraud, and her "Board of Directors" are all accomplices in helping to emotionally and financially rape their victims.
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Old 29th April 2008, 02:57 AM   #8
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If the above email is accurate, more than thirty years ago, Browne was wrong in three out of three predictions she made for this woman: 1) That her second child would be a girl, 2) that her third child would be a girl, and 3) that her third child would be her last child.

And, if this woman's experience is any indication, Browne was no more accurate at the beginning of her career as a "psychic medium" than she is today.
You used the word if twice in your analysis (quoted above). Is there any reason to believe that either statement is either right or wrong? If so it should be part of the analysis.

This article is another nail in SB's coffin.
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Old 29th April 2008, 04:34 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by PastBrowneFan View Post

Sylvia was Mary the mother of Jesus, and this Minister was Mary Magdaline, the wife of Jesus. And of course the report of Sylvia telling a select group of early Ministers that she was the soul mate of Lucifer.

Whoa, I've never heard that before. Insanity!
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Old 29th April 2008, 06:49 AM   #10
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Originally Posted by rjh01 View Post
You used the word if twice in your analysis (quoted above). Is there any reason to believe that either statement is either right or wrong? If so it should be part of the analysis.
I assume Robert felt the need to word it that way as this email is one person's personal narrative, rather than any definitive evidence in the form of recordings, letters, etc.
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Old 29th April 2008, 09:32 AM   #11
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Originally Posted by PastBrowneFan View Post
This article, and this email, just proves that Sylvia has always been a con, and has perfected her career over the past 30 plus years. And she has done so while reaping huge financial benefits, such as the multiple high dollar properties, houses, condos, and apartments that Sylvia and her son Chris own.

I thank this person for sharing her story with you Robert, and I must shudder because this person knew Sylvia before she had her plastic surgery

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I knew her then, too - In fact, I'm the one who sent the lovely picture on your avatar to Robert. It was taken around the time of my first reading with Sylvia, in the late 1980s.

Speaking of Sylvia being a con artist and fraud, it occurs to me that she was pretty broke after she and Dal got caught in the securities scam (I don't know if you remember, but she tried to blame it on him, saying afterward that he had become a dark entity and his guide Raheim had defected over to her. She was totally innocent, according to her - in fact, Francine tried to portray this as yet another incident of Sylvia being martyred). In more recent years, she's degenerated into tax fraud, keeping two sets of books, not bothering to keep the money from the nonprofit separate from the corporation, etc. So it's always possible that she will lose it all again if she gets caught a second time. I think that would be a nice, fitting piece of justice, don't you?
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Old 29th April 2008, 10:07 AM   #12
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What a great read! This woman knows how to tell a story, great that she contacted Robert after finding his web site via Google.

Big surprise, SB was talking out of her [censored] back then just as she does today. Even simple 50:50 guesses like boy or girl she can't get right.
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Old 29th April 2008, 10:41 AM   #13
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Another great article, and kudos to the woman for telling her story.

A side point, is your second item in the "Background"

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2) "She couldn't have gotten this famous unless she was a real psychic at one time."
I think the publicity she receives (or otherwise self generates) and the “ever-changing pool of people” you (RSL) mention is key. SB was more then happy fawn concern, or say a friendship, while this woman was “singing her praises” and use this “success” to publicize her “abilities.”

This seems to be a commong theme, once praise stops so does SBs concern and or friendship; SB dropped her like a hot potato and moved on to the next victim.

With an endless pool of “wanna be” believers, it is a tough task to get them to look at SB past successes failures. You (RSL) and the countless others do an excellent job of highlighting SBs fraud.
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Old 29th April 2008, 12:49 PM   #14
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Originally Posted by EeneyMinnieMoe View Post
What an intelligent and articulate person. She deserves a big hug and a good handshake.
Agreed!

Originally Posted by Hawthorne View Post
Another great one, Mr. Lancaster!
Thanks, Hawthorne.

Originally Posted by ExMinister View Post
I do wish the woman would read some of Sylvia's books because it would also be interesting to hear how drastically her philosophy has changed since those days. Not that I would wish that job on anyone.
Yeahm, that would be "above and beyond." I try not to punish people for helping me!

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It does help put Sylvia in perspective as the small-time fraud she would have remained had Montel not intervened.
Yup.

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good work Robert
Thanks Kitty, but all I did was give this woman a platform.

Originally Posted by PastBrowneFan View Post
From what I have been told, she claims that one minister whom she attempted to steal a building from was her daughter-in-law in a past life; Sylvia was Mary the mother of Jesus, and this Minister was Mary Magdaline, the wife of Jesus.
I wish I could get some first-hand accounts of this, since Browne has stated many times, both on Montel and in books, that she has never ever met anyone who was famous in a past life.

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I thank this person for sharing her story with you Robert, and I must shudder because this person knew Sylvia before she had her plastic surgery
Yes, in a follow-up email, she expressed surporise at how unkind the years had been to Browne, phsycically.

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You used the word if twice in your analysis (quoted above). Is there any reason to believe that either statement is either right or wrong? If so it should be part of the analysis.
No reason to believe that they are incorrect, but logically, either one could be. I try to take this into account when writing the email articles. Thus the disclaimer of sorts "one person's account..." I have taken to putting atop every email article. It would be disingenuous and unfair of me to treat emails as incontrovertible evidence of something.

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I assume Robert felt the need to word it that way as this email is one person's personal narrative, rather than any definitive evidence in the form of recordings, letters, etc.
Yes, thanks.

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I knew her then, too - In fact, I'm the one who sent the lovely picture on your avatar to Robert.
Indeed it was you!

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Speaking of Sylvia being a con artist and fraud, it occurs to me that she was pretty broke after she and Dal got caught in the securities scam
It occurs to me that I should probably put together a SB timeline for the site...

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In more recent years, she's degenerated into tax fraud, keeping two sets of books, not bothering to keep the money from the nonprofit separate from the corporation, etc.
If you have any evidence of this, please send it to me ASAP.

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What a great read! This woman knows how to tell a story, great that she contacted Robert after finding his web site via Google.
Indeed.

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Big surprise, SB was talking out of her [censored] back then just as she does today. Even simple 50:50 guesses like boy or girl she can't get right.
The woman has since let me know of several other predictions Browne made about the woman and her husband which were incorrect. I may add them to the article as an update.

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Another great article, and kudos to the woman for telling her story.
Thanks, and yes.

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I think the publicity she receives (or otherwise self generates) and the “ever-changing pool of people” you (RSL) mention is key.
I am considering an article expanding on this subject, as I have heard this "she can't have gotten this far and not be psychic" thing again and again.

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You (RSL) and the countless others do an excellent job of highlighting SBs fraud.
Thanks, Brick!
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Originally Posted by RSLancastr View Post
If you have any evidence of this, please send it to me ASAP.
No evidence. That is strictly secondhand information. But from a trusted source. I imagine Sylvia would have tried to cover such tracks by now as it's been a few years since I first heard about it.
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Originally Posted by RSLancastr View Post
I am considering an article expanding on this subject, as I have heard this "she can't have gotten this far and not be psychic" thing again and again.
While tough to do given the time line, there probably are ample examples of SB and her "enablers"; from her appearance with Bill Bixby to current (Montel, the Vegas Hotel).
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Old 29th April 2008, 02:39 PM   #17
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Old 30th April 2008, 09:00 AM   #18
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Robert,

I just read the story - good work, and thanks to the writer. But in you analysis I think you understate the value of this correspondent.

True, it's another in the MANY examples of her being inaccurate (88% correct?). However, it easily shows how she worked her way into people's lives and perfected her con, she's changed her story (also documented many times on your site with the Aramaic prayer), used other people, etc...

This is a great glimpse from 31 years ago, when a career as con artist can develop into many different things. With her, she found the public ready and willing to believe her psychic stories, and hand over money LEGALLY (Well, it's a donation!). With some con artists, it has lead to robbery, theft, embezzlement and even murder. A recent Baltimore Sun newspaper series on a Cindy McKay shows to other side to decepetion of people ( http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nat...,1850003.story )

I hope you can get more input from people from early in her career. Good work!!
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Another great article/email. I think this really gives a glimpse into how someone can innocently be taken in by her. And to think what might have happened had Sylvia actually got a couple of those right...

I think a timeline would be interesting, too. I knew about the securities scam, but didn't think about when it happened.
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