[Merged] Evidence for why we know the New Testament writers told the truth - (Part 2) - Page 86

pakeha · 2nd January 2013, 04:39 AM

Yeah, TTTWND gives a pleasing sense of continuity in this ever-changing world.
When I read any random page of this thread, I have the impression the posts could have been written today.

How will DOC start off 2013 here?
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Akhenaten · 2nd January 2013, 05:00 AM

I'm betting on a "So I assume . . . ", but whatever may befall, my very best to you and yours, my friend.

Dom, muffins and cookies for all in 2013!

pakeha · 2nd January 2013, 05:39 AM

And to you and yours, O Pharaoh!

Dom, muffins and cookies for all who read this thread.
All that's lacking is a post from DOC...

Slowvehicle · 2nd January 2013, 06:04 AM

Originally Posted by pakeha

And to you and yours, O Pharaoh!

Dom, muffins and cookies for all who read this thread.
All that's lacking is a post from DOC...

May you all be well...

pakeha · 2nd January 2013, 06:29 AM

And the same to you!
The tension is building as we await DOC post and/or tonight's meteor shower, whichever comes first.
Choccies while we wait?

catsmate1 · 2nd January 2013, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by pakeha

And the same to you!
The tension is building as we await DOC post and/or tonight's meteor shower, whichever comes first.
Choccies while we wait?

http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/4...gscaled696.jpg

Not for me thank you, still a bit stuffed from the holiday feastings.

Susheel · 3rd January 2013, 12:52 AM

Marmite makes chocolates?

pakeha · 3rd January 2013, 01:40 AM

Very peculiar chocolate.

Akhenaten · 3rd January 2013, 07:03 AM

Originally Posted by pakeha

Very peculiar chocolate.

An extra "=" sign inveigled itself into your URL, mate. Please excuse my presumption in posting a corrected version.

Very peculiar chocolate

pakeha · 4th January 2013, 12:41 AM

No worries.
Pharaoh exists to remind us of and embody perfection.

dafydd · 4th January 2013, 02:54 AM

Marmite. Yeuch.

Agatha · 4th January 2013, 03:16 AM

Originally Posted by dafydd

Marmite. Yeuch.

Heretic! Blasphemer! Burn him!

Gandalfs Beard · 4th January 2013, 03:40 AM

The thread that never dies...

Holy crap... I can't believe DOC is still spewing his Holy Crap

welshdean · 4th January 2013, 04:28 AM

Almost 5 years, over 300 pages and still not a single shred of evidence. Amazing... and pitiful.

Have a good 2013 y'all. Live long and prosper.

Akhenaten · 4th January 2013, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by pakeha

No worries.
Pharaoh exists to remind us of and embody perfection.

Vizier! Hasten and bring unto thy Pharaoh the Royal Cookie Jar!
Must needs we hear more the wise words of these Southern folk!

catsmate1 · 4th January 2013, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by Agatha

Heretic! Blasphemer! Burn him!

Well OK, here you can borrow my mob.

But don't give them the ice cream until after the lynching.

dafydd · 4th January 2013, 12:33 PM

I don't like ice cream!!!! Truth.

pakeha · 6th January 2013, 02:47 AM

Proof positive Belgium is an unnatural state of mind.

TimCallahan · 6th January 2013, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by TimCallahan

So, DOC:

1) Were, in your opinion, the resurrected saints of Matthew's passion account literal or symbolic?

2) Likewise, were the 500+ brethren who saw the risen Christ at one time real or symbolic?

3) If the over 500 brethren who saw the risen Christ at one time were real, and if Luke was indeed a companion of Paul's on his journeys, why didn't Luke mention the 500+ brethren?

Perhaps DOC has abandoned this thread; but I'll keep trying to get him to answer these questions for a while.

joobz · 17th January 2013, 05:20 AM

Originally Posted by DOC

But he believes the person known as Jesus of Nazareth (aka Jesus Christ) certainly existed. He might not believe he is divine but he certainly believes he existed in the flesh and blood. He even stated there are solid reasons to believe this historical person was betrayed by Judas. He says that on page 328.

Do you believe Mohamed existed?

dafydd · 17th January 2013, 07:08 AM

Originally Posted by dafydd

I don't like ice cream!!!! Truth.

I prefer sorbet or bavarois.

Akhenaten · 17th January 2013, 07:36 AM

Originally Posted by dafydd

I prefer sorbet or bavarois.

Job 39:24

Fervens et fremens sorbet terram nec reputat tubae sonare clangorem.

(He swalloweth the ground with fierceness and rage: neither believeth he that it is the sound of the trumpet.)

I think there's something in that for all of us.

Kid Eager · 17th January 2013, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by Akhenaten

Job 39:24

Fervens et fremens sorbet terram nec reputat tubae sonare clangorem.

(He swalloweth the ground with fierceness and rage: neither believeth he that it is the sound of the trumpet.)

I think there's something in that for all of us.

The ground swallowing bit concerns me. No wonder he has fierceness and rage, with getting grit in the teeth.

I don't understand the personification of the trumpet sound and the connection with dirt-eating either. Are all musical instruments untrustworthy, or is this a particular proscription against trumpets? Maybe if we make and carry trumpets but not play them, the letter of the law can be observed.

Are dirt eaters more prone to trumpet abuse? I don't have any data on this. Google produces no hits on that phrase either.

Can I just say that I haven't had breakfast yet.

2nd January 2013, 04:39 AM	#3401
pakeha Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 8,010	Yeah, TTTWND gives a pleasing sense of continuity in this ever-changing world. When I read any random page of this thread, I have the impression the posts could have been written today. How will DOC start off 2013 here? [/frisson]
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2nd January 2013, 05:00 AM	#3402
Akhenaten Heretic Pharaoh Pither Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pi-Broadford, Australia Posts: 24,682	I'm betting on a "So I assume . . . ", but whatever may befall, my very best to you and yours, my friend. Dom, muffins and cookies for all in 2013!
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2nd January 2013, 05:39 AM	#3403
pakeha Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 8,010	And to you and yours, O Pharaoh! Dom, muffins and cookies for all who read this thread. All that's lacking is a post from DOC...
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2nd January 2013, 06:04 AM	#3404
Slowvehicle Master Poster Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: ...not where I seemed, nor was calculated to be...but no-one need worry... Posts: 2,197	Originally Posted by pakeha And to you and yours, O Pharaoh! Dom, muffins and cookies for all who read this thread. All that's lacking is a post from DOC... May you all be well...
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2nd January 2013, 06:29 AM	#3405
pakeha Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 8,010	And the same to you! The tension is building as we await DOC post and/or tonight's meteor shower, whichever comes first. Choccies while we wait?
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2nd January 2013, 09:09 AM	#3406
catsmate1 Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Dublin (the one in Ireland) Posts: 7,136	Originally Posted by pakeha And the same to you! The tension is building as we await DOC post and/or tonight's meteor shower, whichever comes first. Choccies while we wait? http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/4...gscaled696.jpg Not for me thank you, still a bit stuffed from the holiday feastings.
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3rd January 2013, 12:52 AM	#3407
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3rd January 2013, 01:40 AM	#3408
pakeha Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 8,010	Very peculiar chocolate.
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3rd January 2013, 07:03 AM	#3409
Akhenaten Heretic Pharaoh Pither Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pi-Broadford, Australia Posts: 24,682	Originally Posted by pakeha Very peculiar chocolate. An extra "=" sign inveigled itself into your URL, mate. Please excuse my presumption in posting a corrected version. Very peculiar chocolate
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4th January 2013, 12:41 AM	#3410
pakeha Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 8,010	No worries. Pharaoh exists to remind us of and embody perfection.
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4th January 2013, 02:54 AM	#3411
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,475	Marmite. Yeuch.
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4th January 2013, 03:16 AM	#3412
Agatha Winking at the Moon Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Posts: 4,228	Originally Posted by dafydd Marmite. Yeuch. Heretic! Blasphemer! Burn him!
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4th January 2013, 04:28 AM	#3414
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4th January 2013, 08:18 AM	#3415
Akhenaten Heretic Pharaoh Pither Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pi-Broadford, Australia Posts: 24,682	Originally Posted by pakeha No worries. Pharaoh exists to remind us of and embody perfection. Vizier! Hasten and bring unto thy Pharaoh the Royal Cookie Jar! Must needs we hear more the wise words of these Southern folk!
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4th January 2013, 10:37 AM	#3416
catsmate1 Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Dublin (the one in Ireland) Posts: 7,136	Originally Posted by Agatha Heretic! Blasphemer! Burn him! Well OK, here you can borrow my mob. But don't give them the ice cream until after the lynching.
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6th January 2013, 06:30 PM	#3419
TimCallahan Philosopher Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5,133	Originally Posted by TimCallahan So, DOC: 1) Were, in your opinion, the resurrected saints of Matthew's passion account literal or symbolic? 2) Likewise, were the 500+ brethren who saw the risen Christ at one time real or symbolic? 3) If the over 500 brethren who saw the risen Christ at one time were real, and if Luke was indeed a companion of Paul's on his journeys, why didn't Luke mention the 500+ brethren? Perhaps DOC has abandoned this thread; but I'll keep trying to get him to answer these questions for a while.
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17th January 2013, 05:20 AM	#3420
joobz Tergiversator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: That's how you get ants Posts: 17,504	Originally Posted by DOC But he believes the person known as Jesus of Nazareth (aka Jesus Christ) certainly existed. He might not believe he is divine but he certainly believes he existed in the flesh and blood. He even stated there are solid reasons to believe this historical person was betrayed by Judas. He says that on page 328. Do you believe Mohamed existed?
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17th January 2013, 07:08 AM	#3421
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,475	Originally Posted by dafydd I don't like ice cream!!!! Truth. I prefer sorbet or bavarois.
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17th January 2013, 07:36 AM	#3422
Akhenaten Heretic Pharaoh Pither Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pi-Broadford, Australia Posts: 24,682	Originally Posted by dafydd I prefer sorbet or bavarois. Job 39:24 Fervens et fremens sorbet terram nec reputat tubae sonare clangorem. (He swalloweth the ground with fierceness and rage: neither believeth he that it is the sound of the trumpet.) I think there's something in that for all of us.
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17th January 2013, 01:28 PM	#3423
Kid Eager Illuminator Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Australia Posts: 3,511	Originally Posted by Akhenaten Job 39:24 Fervens et fremens sorbet terram nec reputat tubae sonare clangorem. (He swalloweth the ground with fierceness and rage: neither believeth he that it is the sound of the trumpet.) I think there's something in that for all of us. The ground swallowing bit concerns me. No wonder he has fierceness and rage, with getting grit in the teeth. I don't understand the personification of the trumpet sound and the connection with dirt-eating either. Are all musical instruments untrustworthy, or is this a particular proscription against trumpets? Maybe if we make and carry trumpets but not play them, the letter of the law can be observed. Are dirt eaters more prone to trumpet abuse? I don't have any data on this. Google produces no hits on that phrase either. Can I just say that I haven't had breakfast yet.
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