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Straw Man · 30th November 2012, 10:24 AM

Hey! Another anecdote! A nice story to warm the heart.

Where are your missing voters, Robert?

Where is the evidence that the election was stolen/rigged?

Myron Proudfoot · 30th November 2012, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by CORed

"Have become"? I don't recall a time when his posts were anything but incredibly stupid.

"When did water become so WET?"

dudalb · 30th November 2012, 12:41 PM

God, another right wing wackjob exploiting the Founding Fathers. I wonder if they have actually READ some of what the Founding fathers said, Jefferson in particular. Would give them a heart attack, probably.

Tomtomkent · 30th November 2012, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by Robert Prey

Comment:
This is what our Founders envisioned?

http://forums.randi.org/picture.php?...pictureid=7009

Yes.
A nation where all men are created equally. By which token the guy not judged by his skin, who has not been associated (rightly or wrongly) with homophobic sentiments getting in the white house is exactly what was envisioned.

The lurid and silly painting with their image taken in vain as a replacement for actual discussion? Less so.

R.A.F. · 30th November 2012, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by Robert Prey

...conservative hammers.com...

Oh, COME ON, Robert....do you really expect us to IN ANY WAY accept such BIASED crap?

At least attempt, Robert, to make a rational argument...posting Republican "sore loser" garbage IS NOT EVIDENCE OF FRAUD.

Alareth · 30th November 2012, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

God, another right wing wackjob exploiting the Founding Fathers. I wonder if they have actually READ some of what the Founding fathers said, Jefferson in particular. Would give them a heart attack, probably.

Jefferson is a FFINO

Garrison · 30th November 2012, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

God, another right wing wackjob exploiting the Founding Fathers. I wonder if they have actually READ some of what the Founding fathers said, Jefferson in particular. Would give them a heart attack, probably.

Well the old quote seems quite appropriate:

"Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel"

And Robert seems to be all out of arguments and evidence so why not try a little flag waving?

Myron Proudfoot · 30th November 2012, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by Alareth

Jefferson is a FFINO

This should be nominated for something!

EventHorizon · 30th November 2012, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by Robert Prey

Comment:
This is what our Founders envisioned?

http://forums.randi.org/picture.php?...pictureid=7009

I can't figure out if that comment along with that picture is thinly veiled bigotry and racism or full-blown bigotry and racism.

Robert Prey · 30th November 2012, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by Straw Man

Hey! Another anecdote! A nice story to warm the heart.

Where are your missing voters, Robert?

Where is the evidence that the election was stolen/rigged?

My vote didn’t count

I really looked forward to this election as a real chance for my voice to be heard in the political arena.

Unfortunately, when I checked the Kitsap County Online Ballot Delivery and Voter Guide — http://wa.nationalvoterguide.com/county/kitsap/track — I found my ballot had “never been received” by the county elections office.

Everyone who voted in Kitsap County should check the status of their ballots. I’d be interested to see how many others were disenfranchised, like me.

Rob Reeve

Read more: http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/2010/n...#ixzz2DkIobXc2

ComfySlippers · 30th November 2012, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by EventHorizon

I can't figure out if that comment along with that picture is thinly veiled bigotry and racism or full-blown bigotry and racism.

It's the latter. Unfortunately RP is an idiotic troll who wouldn't know the difference. ./ignore

LSSBB · 30th November 2012, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by Robert Prey

My vote didn’t count

I really looked forward to this election as a real chance for my voice to be heard in the political arena.

Unfortunately, when I checked the Kitsap County Online Ballot Delivery and Voter Guide — http://wa.nationalvoterguide.com/county/kitsap/track — I found my ballot had “never been received” by the county elections office.

Everyone who voted in Kitsap County should check the status of their ballots. I’d be interested to see how many others were disenfranchised, like me.

Rob Reeve

Read more: http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/2010/n...#ixzz2DkIobXc2

So, what happened to his ballot?

How many Obama voter's ballots got lost?

JayUtah · 30th November 2012, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by Robert Prey

Oh yay, another irrelevant anecdote of isolated voting irregularity. Not even an allegation of wrongdoing, just of error.

And in your rush to spam the thread with any and every claim of voting irregularity, you forgot to tell us which candidate this person intended to vote for. For all you know, the vote was for Obama and a GOP-sympathetic clerk discarded it.

We asked for evidence, not an ongoing tantrum.

abaddon · 30th November 2012, 08:51 PM

It's not even an anecdote about this election, it's from 2010.

JayUtah · 30th November 2012, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by abaddon

It's not even an anecdote about this election, it's from 2010.

Excellent catch!

Robert? Care to explain yourself?

Straw Man · 30th November 2012, 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by Robert Prey

My vote didn’t count

I really looked forward to this election as a real chance for my voice to be heard in the political arena.

Unfortunately, when I checked the Kitsap County Online Ballot Delivery and Voter Guide — http://wa.nationalvoterguide.com/county/kitsap/track — I found my ballot had “never been received” by the county elections office.

Everyone who voted in Kitsap County should check the status of their ballots. I’d be interested to see how many others were disenfranchised, like me.

Rob Reeve

Read more: http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/2010/n...#ixzz2DkIobXc2

So nice for you to provide another bedtime story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCsQCySbxQI

Evidence, Robbie? You know, that stuff that is admissible in a court of law.

sleepy_lioness · 1st December 2012, 02:26 AM

So? My American friend here in the UK wasn't able to cast her absentee ballot (for Obama, in 2012) because Sandy shut down the offices in her area. These problems happen.

Dcdrac · 1st December 2012, 04:31 AM

and this latest tidbit is from 2010......

Mr Prey you have to do alot better than that

Dcdrac · 1st December 2012, 04:36 AM

All the elections office will tell me now is that they can’t count a ballot if they don’t receive it.

Either the federal U.S. Postal Service or our county elections office failed me. I am extremely upset by this. I feel voting is my sacred duty.

Everyone who voted in Kitsap County should check the status of their ballots. I’d be interested to see how many others were disenfranchised, like me.

Rob Reeve

© 2010 Kitsap Sun. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

Read more: http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/2010/n...#ixzz2DnrOL1zx

Robert Prey · 1st December 2012, 06:48 AM

Originally Posted by JayUtah

Excellent catch!

Robert? Care to explain yourself?

Nonsense.

Rich_C · 1st December 2012, 07:11 AM

Originally Posted by Robert Prey

Nonsense.

Yes, your link was nonsense. It was from 2010.

And the link in the letter was broken. I guess it was good in 2010. But no way to tell now.

Straw Man · 1st December 2012, 07:13 AM

Originally Posted by Robert Prey

Nonsense.

What is nonsense, Robert?

tsig · 1st December 2012, 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by remirol

You pretty much just make this stuff up as you go, don't you?

You're giving him too much credit, this is just spewback from all the loser sites.

tsig · 1st December 2012, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by CORed

I'm not sure, but i think it involves armies of shape-shifting, teleporting African-American zombies or something equally plausible.

If they could shape shift then photo ID's wouldn't be a problem.

JayUtah · 1st December 2012, 08:30 AM

Originally Posted by Robert Prey

Nonsense.

I remind you it's a sin to tell a lie.

BazBear · 1st December 2012, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by Robert Prey

Nonsense.

What? Are you saying early voting for the 2012 election in WA began in 2010?

R.A.F. · 1st December 2012, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by Robert Prey

Nonsense.

Edited by kmortis:

Removed personal comments.

jaydeehess · 1st December 2012, 11:45 AM

So it was a 2010 Senatorial election, mailed in ballot, that is supposed to be evidence of 2012 Presidental election fraud is it?

amensae · 1st December 2012, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by Tomtomkent

Originally Posted by Robert Prey

This is what our Founders envisioned?
http://forums.randi.org/picture.php?...pictureid=7009

The lurid and silly painting with their image taken in vain as a replacement for actual discussion?

I think it’s brilliant. But as a foreigner, I also have some questions.
(1) Is that a tear I see on Washington’s cheek? Isn’t it a bit disrespectful depicting the Father of Your Country as a cry-baby?
(2) I don’t get the flock of sheeple outside the Capitol building. Isn’t there a Republican House majority? So are Republican voters also sheeple?
(3) What’s with the Israeli flags? The Jews supported Obama because he is such a good friend of Israel and Republicans aren’t?
(4) Am I wrong to expect a semblance of logic?

Janadele · 1st December 2012, 06:15 PM

It seems evident, if one can believe anything one reads, that the American voting system is a sham.

abaddon · 1st December 2012, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by amensae

I think it’s brilliant. But as a foreigner, I also have some questions.
(1) Is that a tear I see on Washington’s cheek? Isn’t it a bit disrespectful depicting the Father of Your Country as a cry-baby?

Yup, some illustrator made it up. If it is a pdf file, I am sure RP can find some fake layers for you.

Originally Posted by amensae

(2) I don’t get the flock of sheeple outside the Capitol building. Isn’t there a Republican House majority? So are Republican voters also sheeple?

Democrats ba-a-a-ad. Republicans Me-e-e-eh. It swung the election.

Originally Posted by amensae

(3) What’s with the Israeli flags? The Jews supported Obama because he is such a good friend of Israel and Republicans aren’t?

Israel is a swing state. We're winning=Israel good, we're losing=Israel bad. Or vice-versa as required by politics du jour.

Originally Posted by amensae

(4) Am I wrong to expect a semblance of logic?

Yes. Very, very wrong.

BazBear · 1st December 2012, 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by Janadele

It seems evident, if one can believe anything one reads, that the American voting system is a sham.

The highlighted part would be the problem, because one can't take just anything one reads as the unvarnished FSM-honest truth. That seems quite evident to me.

30th November 2012, 10:24 AM	#561
Straw Man Flammable Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: In your argument Posts: 8,188	Hey! Another anecdote! A nice story to warm the heart. Where are your missing voters, Robert? Where is the evidence that the election was stolen/rigged?
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30th November 2012, 12:22 PM	#562
Myron Proudfoot Muse Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Washington DC area. Posts: 967	Originally Posted by CORed "Have become"? I don't recall a time when his posts were anything but incredibly stupid. "When did water become so WET?"
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30th November 2012, 12:42 PM	#564
Tomtomkent Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Kent, United Kingdom Posts: 5,351	Originally Posted by Robert Prey Comment: This is what our Founders envisioned? http://forums.randi.org/picture.php?...pictureid=7009 Yes. A nation where all men are created equally. By which token the guy not judged by his skin, who has not been associated (rightly or wrongly) with homophobic sentiments getting in the white house is exactly what was envisioned. The lurid and silly painting with their image taken in vain as a replacement for actual discussion? Less so.
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30th November 2012, 01:03 PM	#565
R.A.F. Master Poster Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 2,141	Originally Posted by Robert Prey ...conservative hammers.com... Oh, COME ON, Robert....do you really expect us to IN ANY WAY accept such BIASED crap? At least attempt, Robert, to make a rational argument...posting Republican "sore loser" garbage IS NOT EVIDENCE OF FRAUD.
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30th November 2012, 01:29 PM	#566
Alareth Expert Expertologist Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 6,807	Originally Posted by dudalb God, another right wing wackjob exploiting the Founding Fathers. I wonder if they have actually READ some of what the Founding fathers said, Jefferson in particular. Would give them a heart attack, probably. Jefferson is a FFINO
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30th November 2012, 12:41 PM	#563
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 23,023	God, another right wing wackjob exploiting the Founding Fathers. I wonder if they have actually READ some of what the Founding fathers said, Jefferson in particular. Would give them a heart attack, probably.

30th November 2012, 02:04 PM	#567
Garrison Graduate Poster Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Milton Keynes UK Posts: 1,457	Originally Posted by dudalb God, another right wing wackjob exploiting the Founding Fathers. I wonder if they have actually READ some of what the Founding fathers said, Jefferson in particular. Would give them a heart attack, probably. Well the old quote seems quite appropriate: "Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel" And Robert seems to be all out of arguments and evidence so why not try a little flag waving?

30th November 2012, 07:09 PM	#568
Myron Proudfoot Muse Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Washington DC area. Posts: 967	Originally Posted by Alareth Jefferson is a FFINO This should be nominated for something!
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30th November 2012, 07:28 PM	#569
EventHorizon Atheist Tergiversator Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,878	Originally Posted by Robert Prey Comment: This is what our Founders envisioned? http://forums.randi.org/picture.php?...pictureid=7009 I can't figure out if that comment along with that picture is thinly veiled bigotry and racism or full-blown bigotry and racism.
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30th November 2012, 08:17 PM	#570
Robert Prey Suspended Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 6,565	Originally Posted by Straw Man Hey! Another anecdote! A nice story to warm the heart. Where are your missing voters, Robert? Where is the evidence that the election was stolen/rigged? My vote didn’t count I really looked forward to this election as a real chance for my voice to be heard in the political arena. Unfortunately, when I checked the Kitsap County Online Ballot Delivery and Voter Guide — http://wa.nationalvoterguide.com/county/kitsap/track — I found my ballot had “never been received” by the county elections office. Everyone who voted in Kitsap County should check the status of their ballots. I’d be interested to see how many others were disenfranchised, like me. Rob Reeve Read more: http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/2010/n...#ixzz2DkIobXc2
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30th November 2012, 08:19 PM	#571
ComfySlippers Graduate Poster Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: UK Posts: 1,122	Originally Posted by EventHorizon I can't figure out if that comment along with that picture is thinly veiled bigotry and racism or full-blown bigotry and racism. It's the latter. Unfortunately RP is an idiotic troll who wouldn't know the difference. ./ignore
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30th November 2012, 08:30 PM	#572
LSSBB Devilish Dictionarian Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: An elusive house at Bachelor's Grove Cemetery Posts: 4,743	Originally Posted by Robert Prey My vote didn’t count I really looked forward to this election as a real chance for my voice to be heard in the political arena. Unfortunately, when I checked the Kitsap County Online Ballot Delivery and Voter Guide — http://wa.nationalvoterguide.com/county/kitsap/track — I found my ballot had “never been received” by the county elections office. Everyone who voted in Kitsap County should check the status of their ballots. I’d be interested to see how many others were disenfranchised, like me. Rob Reeve Read more: http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/2010/n...#ixzz2DkIobXc2 So, what happened to his ballot? How many Obama voter's ballots got lost?
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30th November 2012, 08:39 PM	#573
JayUtah Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 4,217	Originally Posted by Robert Prey Read more Oh yay, another irrelevant anecdote of isolated voting irregularity. Not even an allegation of wrongdoing, just of error. And in your rush to spam the thread with any and every claim of voting irregularity, you forgot to tell us which candidate this person intended to vote for. For all you know, the vote was for Obama and a GOP-sympathetic clerk discarded it. We asked for evidence, not an ongoing tantrum.
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30th November 2012, 08:51 PM	#574
abaddon Illuminator Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 3,783	It's not even an anecdote about this election, it's from 2010.
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30th November 2012, 08:57 PM	#575
JayUtah Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 4,217	Originally Posted by abaddon It's not even an anecdote about this election, it's from 2010. Excellent catch! Robert? Care to explain yourself?
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30th November 2012, 10:56 PM	#576
Straw Man Flammable Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: In your argument Posts: 8,188	Originally Posted by Robert Prey My vote didn’t count I really looked forward to this election as a real chance for my voice to be heard in the political arena. Unfortunately, when I checked the Kitsap County Online Ballot Delivery and Voter Guide — http://wa.nationalvoterguide.com/county/kitsap/track — I found my ballot had “never been received” by the county elections office. Everyone who voted in Kitsap County should check the status of their ballots. I’d be interested to see how many others were disenfranchised, like me. Rob Reeve Read more: http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/2010/n...#ixzz2DkIobXc2 So nice for you to provide another bedtime story. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCsQCySbxQI Evidence, Robbie? You know, that stuff that is admissible in a court of law.
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1st December 2012, 02:26 AM	#577
sleepy_lioness Muse Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 506	So? My American friend here in the UK wasn't able to cast her absentee ballot (for Obama, in 2012) because Sandy shut down the offices in her area. These problems happen.
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1st December 2012, 04:31 AM	#578
Dcdrac Illuminator Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,896	and this latest tidbit is from 2010...... Mr Prey you have to do alot better than that
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1st December 2012, 04:36 AM	#579
Dcdrac Illuminator Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,896	All the elections office will tell me now is that they can’t count a ballot if they don’t receive it. Either the federal U.S. Postal Service or our county elections office failed me. I am extremely upset by this. I feel voting is my sacred duty. Everyone who voted in Kitsap County should check the status of their ballots. I’d be interested to see how many others were disenfranchised, like me. Rob Reeve © 2010 Kitsap Sun. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. Read more: http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/2010/n...#ixzz2DnrOL1zx
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1st December 2012, 06:48 AM	#580
Robert Prey Suspended Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 6,565	Originally Posted by JayUtah Excellent catch! Robert? Care to explain yourself? Nonsense.
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1st December 2012, 07:11 AM	#581
Rich_C Thinker Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 129	Originally Posted by Robert Prey Nonsense. Yes, your link was nonsense. It was from 2010. And the link in the letter was broken. I guess it was good in 2010. But no way to tell now.
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1st December 2012, 07:13 AM	#582
Straw Man Flammable Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: In your argument Posts: 8,188	Originally Posted by Robert Prey Nonsense. What is nonsense, Robert?
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1st December 2012, 08:17 AM	#583
tsig a carbon based life-form Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 27,257	Originally Posted by remirol You pretty much just make this stuff up as you go, don't you? You're giving him too much credit, this is just spewback from all the loser sites.

1st December 2012, 08:24 AM	#584
tsig a carbon based life-form Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 27,257	Originally Posted by CORed I'm not sure, but i think it involves armies of shape-shifting, teleporting African-American zombies or something equally plausible. If they could shape shift then photo ID's wouldn't be a problem.

1st December 2012, 08:30 AM	#585
JayUtah Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 4,217	Originally Posted by Robert Prey Nonsense. I remind you it's a sin to tell a lie.
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1st December 2012, 09:28 AM	#586
BazBear Teddy Bears do have teeth! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: In The Woods Behind Your House Posts: 1,645	Originally Posted by Robert Prey Nonsense. What? Are you saying early voting for the 2012 election in WA began in 2010?
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1st December 2012, 11:45 AM	#588
jaydeehess Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: I beedunk 40 miles from the border Posts: 10,968	So it was a 2010 Senatorial election, mailed in ballot, that is supposed to be evidence of 2012 Presidental election fraud is it?

1st December 2012, 06:11 PM	#589
amensae Suspended Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 223	Originally Posted by Tomtomkent Originally Posted by Robert Prey This is what our Founders envisioned? http://forums.randi.org/picture.php?...pictureid=7009 The lurid and silly painting with their image taken in vain as a replacement for actual discussion? I think it’s brilliant. But as a foreigner, I also have some questions. (1) Is that a tear I see on Washington’s cheek? Isn’t it a bit disrespectful depicting the Father of Your Country as a cry-baby? (2) I don’t get the flock of sheeple outside the Capitol building. Isn’t there a Republican House majority? So are Republican voters also sheeple? (3) What’s with the Israeli flags? The Jews supported Obama because he is such a good friend of Israel and Republicans aren’t? (4) Am I wrong to expect a semblance of logic?

1st December 2012, 06:15 PM	#590
Janadele Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: East Coast Australia Posts: 1,745	It seems evident, if one can believe anything one reads, that the American voting system is a sham.

1st December 2012, 06:19 PM	#591
abaddon Illuminator Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 3,783	Originally Posted by amensae I think it’s brilliant. But as a foreigner, I also have some questions. (1) Is that a tear I see on Washington’s cheek? Isn’t it a bit disrespectful depicting the Father of Your Country as a cry-baby? Yup, some illustrator made it up. If it is a pdf file, I am sure RP can find some fake layers for you. Originally Posted by amensae (2) I don’t get the flock of sheeple outside the Capitol building. Isn’t there a Republican House majority? So are Republican voters also sheeple? Democrats ba-a-a-ad. Republicans Me-e-e-eh. It swung the election. Originally Posted by amensae (3) What’s with the Israeli flags? The Jews supported Obama because he is such a good friend of Israel and Republicans aren’t? Israel is a swing state. We're winning=Israel good, we're losing=Israel bad. Or vice-versa as required by politics du jour. Originally Posted by amensae (4) Am I wrong to expect a semblance of logic? Yes. Very, very wrong.
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1st December 2012, 06:29 PM	#592
BazBear Teddy Bears do have teeth! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: In The Woods Behind Your House Posts: 1,645	Originally Posted by Janadele It seems evident, if one can believe anything one reads, that the American voting system is a sham. The highlighted part would be the problem, because one can't take just anything one reads as the unvarnished FSM-honest truth. That seems quite evident to me.
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