Houdini's last message a media conspiracy

cgaduck · 23rd June 2012, 09:39 AM

It's all a conspiracy of silence don't you know

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It is frequently stated in mainstream literature that Houdini never did return in spirit. However, there is evidence that suggests otherwise.

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Mrs. Houdini, totally convinced that the message was genuine, signed an affidavit to that effect. She had no doubts.

http://www.ial.goldthread.com/houdini.html

Aepervius · 23rd June 2012, 09:41 AM

"I cannot fathom why, because mediums do not charge a great deal for their services, and most do not charge anything"

Excuse me I was rolling on the floor laughing.

cgaduck · 24th June 2012, 01:30 AM

That's just there to render you helpless with laughter so you can be primed for the conspiracy. Anyone else come across the links claims?

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Now, almost a year later, Beatrice Houdini asked for the Rev. Ford to come and see her at her home. He duly arrived, and while there, went into a trance and relayed a message to Mrs. Houdini, apparently from her late husband. The message contained ten words, one single word, plus a nine-word code that she and Houdini had secretly arranged for this very purpose - as proof of life after death. The code itself was the same one that she and Houdini had used many years before in the psuedo-mindreading act. It consisted of ten words, each word representing a number. That number in turn represented a letter of the alphabet. Here is the code with the first ten letters of the alphabet:

Pray = 1 A * Answer = 2 B * Say = 3 C * Now = 4 D * Tell = 5 E

Please = 6 F * Speak = 7 G * Quickly = 8 H * Look = 9 I * Be Quick = 10 J

To secretly convey the letter F, one has only to begin a sentence with the word, such as, ‘Please, concentrate a little harder.’ By using combinations of the above words, any letter can be conveyed. For example, if the performer said, ‘Answer now!’ That represents the numbers 2 and 4, and the 24th letter in the alphabet is X. A good two-person act using a code like this will conceal the target words in longer sentences, and humorous remarks made to the audience. It is never quite as deliberate as the examples given. You must also remember that complete words need to be conveyed to the assistant, therefore the code has to become second nature to the partnership - a hidden language that is both automatic and natural. The first word delivered was ‘Rosabelle,’ the name of a song that Beatrice had sang during the first show that she and Houdini had done together. The nine words, or phrases, that followed had to be decoded using the system just given. This spelled out the word ‘B-E-L-I-E-V-E.’

Mrs. Houdini, totally convinced that the message was genuine, signed an affidavit to that effect. She had no doubts.

cgaduck · 24th June 2012, 01:41 AM

NM I found it on scepdic

Arthur Ford hoax
http://www.skepdic.com/fordhoax.html

23rd June 2012, 09:39 AM	#1
cgaduck Student Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 34	Houdini's last message a media conspiracy It's all a conspiracy of silence don't you know Quote: It is frequently stated in mainstream literature that Houdini never did return in spirit. However, there is evidence that suggests otherwise. Snip Mrs. Houdini, totally convinced that the message was genuine, signed an affidavit to that effect. She had no doubts. http://www.ial.goldthread.com/houdini.html
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23rd June 2012, 09:41 AM	#2
Aepervius Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bierland. I mean , germany. Posts: 7,759	"I cannot fathom why, because mediums do not charge a great deal for their services, and most do not charge anything" Excuse me I was rolling on the floor laughing.
	__________________ Omnes Blessant Ultima necat "I want, and this is my last and most dear wish, I want that the last of the king be strangled with the guts of the last priest" (Jean Meslier / 1664-1729 / Testament) A very early french atheist, a catholic priest in life.

24th June 2012, 01:30 AM	#3
cgaduck Student Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 34	That's just there to render you helpless with laughter so you can be primed for the conspiracy. Anyone else come across the links claims? Quote: Now, almost a year later, Beatrice Houdini asked for the Rev. Ford to come and see her at her home. He duly arrived, and while there, went into a trance and relayed a message to Mrs. Houdini, apparently from her late husband. The message contained ten words, one single word, plus a nine-word code that she and Houdini had secretly arranged for this very purpose - as proof of life after death. The code itself was the same one that she and Houdini had used many years before in the psuedo-mindreading act. It consisted of ten words, each word representing a number. That number in turn represented a letter of the alphabet. Here is the code with the first ten letters of the alphabet: Pray = 1 A * Answer = 2 B * Say = 3 C * Now = 4 D * Tell = 5 E Please = 6 F * Speak = 7 G * Quickly = 8 H * Look = 9 I * Be Quick = 10 J To secretly convey the letter F, one has only to begin a sentence with the word, such as, ‘Please, concentrate a little harder.’ By using combinations of the above words, any letter can be conveyed. For example, if the performer said, ‘Answer now!’ That represents the numbers 2 and 4, and the 24th letter in the alphabet is X. A good two-person act using a code like this will conceal the target words in longer sentences, and humorous remarks made to the audience. It is never quite as deliberate as the examples given. You must also remember that complete words need to be conveyed to the assistant, therefore the code has to become second nature to the partnership - a hidden language that is both automatic and natural. The first word delivered was ‘Rosabelle,’ the name of a song that Beatrice had sang during the first show that she and Houdini had done together. The nine words, or phrases, that followed had to be decoded using the system just given. This spelled out the word ‘B-E-L-I-E-V-E.’ Mrs. Houdini, totally convinced that the message was genuine, signed an affidavit to that effect. She had no doubts.
cgaduck Student Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 34

24th June 2012, 01:41 AM	#4
cgaduck Student Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 34	NM I found it on scepdic Arthur Ford hoax http://www.skepdic.com/fordhoax.html
cgaduck Student Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 34