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Old 10th June 2012, 11:34 AM   #361
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Originally Posted by aleCcowaN View Post
I stopped watching it after minute 12 because I never knew of a piece of propaganda that stopped being just propaganda before coming to its end.

Anyway, I'm keeping it. Like "The Global Warming Swindle", they are excellent pieces to teach critical thinking. Both have the same editing style that promotes instantly a feeling of urgency.

That's the point where Zizek first appears. Can't understand why people think his lisping is valuable. But I suspect it was Maggy on the tank which scared you away.

I doubt that the Greek need a film to give them a sense of urgency, though, and hope you'll add some substance in your critical thinking classes.
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Old 10th June 2012, 03:03 PM   #362
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Originally Posted by WildCat View Post
Yes, and where is your link to these "many posts"?
Read the thread at last. You can start looking for them around #250. You're welcome.

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Ah, so lacking any facts whatsoever you resort to smear tactics, I'm just prejudiced against Greeks.
Smear tactics?

So you don't know what 'prejudiced' means also . One million and still counting.

By the way you forgot to correct the math (that 27% that is and the 27% that isn't) to show you at least know how to do your arithmetic.
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Old 10th June 2012, 03:50 PM   #363
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Originally Posted by Childlike Empress View Post
That's the point where Zizek first appears. Can't understand why people think his lisping is valuable. But I suspect it was Maggy on the tank which scared you away.
I hear worse things on a daily basis, so why I would be scared. It has to do with its "rewriting history". I'm sure most people in that video present interesting points of view when they are in an open debate. The video is just a piece of propaganda.

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I doubt that the Greek need a film to give them a sense of urgency, though, and hope you'll add some substance in your critical thinking classes.
The sense of urgency is a propaganda tactic and has to do with the way something is showed and not with the Greek crisis. And your mention of "substance" is just gratuitous: you simply didn't like I dismissed "your" video as a blatant piece of propaganda -in spite of some developments being 5 to 50% accurately presented in the part I watched-.
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Old 10th June 2012, 08:00 PM   #364
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Originally Posted by WildCat View Post
Yes, I know how to do that. Do you?
So you were just ignoring arguments that you don't have an answer for, which is pretty much what everyone already knew. Since you did already know it puts you in a pretty bad light demanding people post it over an over and trying to pretend the previous posts didn't exist.

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Yes, and I never claimed otherwise.
Right. You just ignored it and demanded it be repeated so you could ignore it again.

So at least you finally admit your position is that Greece is richer than Germany on a per capita basis. Of course it's obvious this isn't true, Greece is not Richer that Germany so your whole argument is broken.
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Old 10th July 2012, 07:41 PM   #365
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This is downright scary:

Greek Far Right Hangs a Target on Immigrants

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ATHENS — A week after an extremist right-wing party gained an electoral foothold in Greece’s Parliament earlier this summer, 50 of its members riding motorbikes and armed with heavy wooden poles roared through Nikaia, a gritty suburb west of here, to telegraph their new power.

As townspeople watched, several of them said in interviews, the men careened around the main square, some brandishing shields emblazoned with swastikalike symbols, and delivered an ultimatum to immigrants whose businesses have catered to Nikaia’s Greeks for nearly a decade.

“They said: ‘You’re the cause of Greece’s problems. You have seven days to close or we’ll burn your shop — and we’ll burn you,’ ” said Mohammed Irfan, a legal Pakistani immigrant who owns a hair salon and two other stores. When he called the police for help, he said, the officer who answered said they did not have time to come to the aid of immigrants like him.
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