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Old 25th June 2012, 09:42 AM   #41
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Back to the original topic (sort of), is the biblical creation the most boring one out there?

I mean, there's no drama! No great battles between ancient gods or bloody sacrifices or even interesting cosmic objects.

So what is everyone's favorite creation myths?
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Old 25th June 2012, 10:08 AM   #42
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This was posted some time ago, but it does show how other creation myths can be interpreted to be even more accurate than the biblical one.

Originally Posted by Ryan O'Dine
Hokulele's post reminded me of a similar conversation we had with DOC back in the day. As I said then, I'm far more impressed with certain Native American creation stories seeming to adhere to the scientific understanding.

Here's a Hopi creation story I posted, with my own comments in brackets:


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The Four Creations

The world at first was endless space in which existed only the Creator, Taiowa. This world had no time, no shape, and no life, except in the mind of the Creator. [We start inside the Plank dimensions] Eventually the infinite creator created the finite in Sotuknang [Big Bang], whom he called his nephew and whom he created as his agent to establish nine universes. [The nine spatial dimensions of string theory] Sotuknang gathered together matter from the endless space to make the nine solid worlds. [Solar system formation] Then the Creator instructed him to gather together the waters from the endless space and place them on these worlds to make land and sea. [Earth forms] When Sotuknang had done that, the Creator instructed him to gather together air to make winds and breezes on these worlds. [Atmosphere forms]

The fourth act of creation with which the Creator charged Sotuknang was the creation of life. Sotuknang went to the world that was to first host life and there he created Spider Woman, and he gave her the power to create life. First Spider Woman took some earth and mixed it with saliva to make two beings. Over them she sang the Creation Song, and they came to life. [Life forms from organic compounds] She instructed one of them, Poqanghoya, to go across the earth and solidify it. [Volcanic activity diminishes] She instructed the other, Palongawhoya, to send out sound to resonate through the earth, so that the earth vibrated with the energy of the Creator. [I’ll think of something] Poqanghoya and Palongawhoya were despatched to the poles of the earth to keep it rotating. [Wow. They knew the earth rotated. And that the period changed. Bonus points.]

Then Spider Woman made all the plants, the flowers, the bushes, and the trees. Likewise she made the birds and animals, again using earth and singing the Creation Song. When all this was done, she made human beings, using yellow, red, white, and black earth mixed with her saliva. [Pretty correct sequencing] Singing the Creation Song, she made four men, and then in her own form she made four women. At first they had a soft spot in their foreheads, and although it solidified, it left a space through which they could hear the voice of Sotuknang and their Creator. [Evolution of frontal lobes, maybe.] Because these people could not speak, Spider Woman called on Sotuknang, who gave them four languages. [Evolution of language] His only instructions were for them to respect their Creator and to live in harmony with him.

These people spread across the earth and multiplied. [African diaspora] Despite their four languages, in those days they could understand each other's thoughts anyway, and for many years they and the animals lived together as one. Eventually, however, they began to divide, both the people from the animals and the people from each other, as they focused on their differences rather than their similarities. [We go from tribes to clans to larger social structures.]
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Old 25th June 2012, 11:09 AM   #43
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