TAMbassadors Call - Page 5

The Central Scrutinizer · 18th January 2013, 05:43 AM

Originally Posted by AdMan

While I see your point, to be honest I think the vast majority of those who ended up with a distorted view of us (and the other TAM volunteers) as some kind of "plainclothes security" weren't actually there. I think many who were there did see the TAMbassadors as a positive thing, based on my experience.

I would be happy to volunteer again, assuming the JREF still likes the idea.

I didn't know you guys were squealers until after TAM was over.

krelnik · 18th January 2013, 07:59 AM

Please don't let poorly researched Internet posts by people who (by and large) were not present at TAM dissuade you from the contribution you want to make.

The Central Scrutinizer · 18th January 2013, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by krelnik

Please don't let poorly researched Internet posts by people who (by and large) were not present at TAM dissuade you from the contribution you want to make.

And by "poorly researched", you mean "not researched at all".

I had fun last year following the twitter feed about all the problems at the conference, posted by people who I know for a fact weren't even there.

dasmiller · 18th January 2013, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by AdMan

While I see your point, to be honest I think the vast majority of those who ended up with a distorted view of us (and the other TAM volunteers) as some kind of "plainclothes security" weren't actually there. I think many who were there did see the TAMbassadors as a positive thing, based on my experience.

So . . . if I were to be a TAMbassador, does this mean I wouldn't be required to use a fake German accent and question everyone's motives?

<sigh> nevermind, then

Allecher · 18th January 2013, 10:39 AM

Not required, dasmiller, but totally fine by me.

I don't want to derail the thread, but they took a picture of the group and the end of TAM. Does anyone know what happened to it?

Wowbagger · 18th January 2013, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by Allecher

I don't want to derail the thread, but they took a picture of the group and the end of TAM. Does anyone know what happened to it?

I asked that very same question to a bunch of folks who would supposedly know about that. Never got much of an answer. Weird.

Kochanski · 18th January 2013, 01:57 PM

I will be happy to join the ranks of the TAMbassadors. Since I will probably be at the forum table again and people are likely to ask me questions anyway, I might as well make it official

bumlet5 · 18th January 2013, 04:44 PM

I'll give it another shot.

Name	Days Attending	Experience	Comments
Bumlet5	Tues-Mon	6,8,9,10

Do we want to stick with the big, bright orange buttons or get different ones?

Wowbagger · 18th January 2013, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by bumlet5

I'll give it another shot.

Yaay!! Rumor mongers aren't gonna win!

Name	Days Attending	Experience	Comments
Bumlet5	Tues-Mon	6,8,9,10
Wowbagger	Thurs-Sun?	3,4,5,5.5,6,7,8,9,10,L10

Originally Posted by bumlet5

Do we want to stick with the big, bright orange buttons or get different ones?

If we stick with the same buttons, I can reuse mine from last year, and I am pretty sure others could do the same.

Horatius · 19th January 2013, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by Wowbagger

If we stick with the same buttons, I can reuse mine from last year, and I am pretty sure others could do the same.

But have a few extra for those who missed last year....

Wowbagger · 19th January 2013, 10:12 AM

Would it help if we added a column for button reuse?

Name	Days Attending	Experience	Can Reuse Button	Comments
Bumlet5	Tues-Mon	6,8,9,10
Wowbagger	Thurs-Sun?	3,4,5,5.5,6,7,8,9,10,L10	Yes

zooterkin · 19th January 2013, 10:43 AM

Just to step back a bit, the reason we had TAMbassadors was because it seemed, at one point, that there weren't going to be any volunteers helping run TAM, and people wanted to help.

Now, I'm certainly not saying it was a bad idea, nor that we shouldn't have both TAMbassadors and volunteers, but I'm just wondering if we should take this opportunity to establish what we want the TAMbassador role to be, and if it should be separate from the volunteers or not. The main difference in practice last year was that volunteers had some scheduled duties (mainly helping with registration or manning the doors for events), and TAMbassadors didn't; both (overlapping) groups were also available to help with questions from attendees, and were asked to look out for any harassment problems.

Personally, I don't have any problem with it; I was a volunteer as well, and the TAMbassador button was a way of indicating my willingness to help without having to wear the same T-shirt for 4 days. However, some people may have been concerned at the 'secret police' side of things; not necessarily what they were asked to do (which I thought totally reasonable), but at what some people thought they were doing (if that's not too convoluted).

Of course, I don't think we know yet if volunteers will be needed this year. I'll be signing up for both, if possible.

Thoughts?

Paul C. Anagnostopoulos · 19th January 2013, 02:13 PM

I was a TAMbassador and I didn't even realize that we were looked at askance. Now, I'm not deeply in the blogoloop, but I think this demonstrates that the job had value without being too weird.

~~ Paul

Paul C. Anagnostopoulos · 19th January 2013, 02:16 PM

Name	Days Attending	Experience	Can Reuse Button
Bumlet5	Tues-Mon	6,8,9,10
Paul C. Anagnostopoulos	Wed--Mon	all except 5.5	yes
Wowbagger	Thurs-Sun?	3,4,5,5.5,6,7,8,9,10,L10	Yes

Wowbagger · 19th January 2013, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by zooterkin

I'm just wondering if we should take this opportunity to establish what we want the TAMbassador role to be, and if it should be separate from the volunteers or not. The main difference in practice last year was that volunteers had some scheduled duties (mainly helping with registration or manning the doors for events), and TAMbassadors didn't; both (overlapping) groups were also available to help with questions from attendees, and were asked to look out for any harassment problems.

I think you have the gist of it: A TAMbassador is willing to be asked questions from newbies. A volunteer is willing to accept certain scheduled tasks. One can be both, but one can choose one or the other. Or neither.

Some volunteers might not like being "hounded on" for questions, and so won't wear a TAMbassador badge.

TAMbassadors might enjoy answering questions, and will wear the badge, but won't want to volunteer for specific scheduled tasks, and thus won't do so.

We were not asked to "look out" for any harassment problems. But, rather to report any problems to the proper authorities if we happen to witness any. This, I imagine, is what a normal, non-TAMbassador would do, anyway. The only real difference is that we had some extra phone numbers handy.
We were not authorized to do jacksquat besides that.

Horatius · 19th January 2013, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by Wowbagger

We were not asked to "look out" for any harassment problems. But, rather to report any problems to the proper authorities if we happen to witness any. This, I imagine, is what a normal, non-TAMbassador would do, anyway. The only real difference is that we had some extra phone numbers handy.
We were not authorized to do jacksquat besides that.

Which is a perfectly reasonable thing to be doing. So of course it got blown out of proportion by the usual windbags.

The Central Scrutinizer · 19th January 2013, 10:55 PM

Originally Posted by Paul C. Anagnostopoulos

Name	Days Attending	Experience	Can Reuse Button
Bumlet5	Tues-Mon	6,8,9,10
Paul C. Anagnostopoulos	Wed--Mon	all except 5.5	yes
Wowbagger	Thurs-Sun?	3,4,5,5.5,6,7,8,9,10,L10	Yes

I take issue with this. I don't believe I saw you at either of the TAM London's.

BrianEngler · 20th January 2013, 12:08 PM

Name	Days Attending	Experience	Can Reuse Button
BrianEngler	Tues-Mon	6,7,8,9,10	yes
Bumlet5	Tues-Mon	6,8,9,10
Paul C. Anagnostopoulos	Wed--Mon	all except 5.5	yes
Wowbagger	Thurs-Sun?	3,4,5,5.5,6,7,8,9,10,L10	Yes

BrianEngler · 20th January 2013, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by Wowbagger

I asked that very same question to a bunch of folks who would supposedly know about that. Never got much of an answer. Weird.

Wondered this myself. Just asked Ingrid Laas (the official TAM photographer who, as I recall, took this pic) if she can share. I'll let you know if I find out anything.

Paul C. Anagnostopoulos · 20th January 2013, 12:19 PM

Name	Days Attending	Experience	Can Reuse Button	Comments
BrianEngler	Tues-Mon	6,7,8,9,10	yes
Bumlet5	Tues-Mon	6,8,9,10
Paul C. Anagnostopoulos	Wed--Mon	all U.S. except 5.5	yes	Scrut'inized
Wowbagger	Thurs-Sun?	3,4,5,5.5,6,7,8,9,10,L10	Yes

The Central Scrutinizer · 20th January 2013, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by Paul C. Anagnostopoulos

Name	Days Attending	Experience	Can Reuse Button	Comments
BrianEngler	Tues-Mon	6,7,8,9,10	yes
Bumlet5	Tues-Mon	6,8,9,10
Paul C. Anagnostopoulos	Wed--Mon	all U.S. except 5.5	yes	Scrut'inized
Wowbagger	Thurs-Sun?	3,4,5,5.5,6,7,8,9,10,L10	Yes

That's better.

rustypouch · 20th January 2013, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by The Central Scrutinizer

I'm good at harassment, I think I'll sign up!!!

I'll be sure to bring my harassin' shoes next time.

bumlet5 · 22nd January 2013, 04:05 PM

Name	Days Attending	Experience	Can Reuse Button	Comments
BrianEngler	late Wed-Sun	6,7,8,9,10	yes
Bumlet5	Tues-Mon	6,8,9,10
Paul C. Anagnostopoulos	Wed--Mon	all U.S. except 5.5	yes	Scrut'inized
Wowbagger	Thurs-Sun?	3,4,5,5.5,6,7,8,9,10,L10	Yes

My schedule changed due to work.

BrianEngler · 28th January 2013, 02:01 PM

Name	Days Attending	Experience	Can Reuse Button	Comments
BrianEngler	Tues-Mon	6,7,8,9,10	yes
Bumlet5	late Wed-Sun	6,8,9,10
Paul C. Anagnostopoulos	Wed--Mon	all U.S. except 5.5	yes	Scrut'inized
Wowbagger	Thurs-Sun?	3,4,5,5.5,6,7,8,9,10,L10	Yes

Fixed table.

bumlet5 · 28th January 2013, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by BrianEngler

Fixed table.

Sorry about that.

Kochanski · 29th January 2013, 09:46 AM

Name	Days Attending	Experience	Can Reuse Button	Comments
BrianEngler	Tues-Mon	6,7,8,9,10	yes
Bumlet5	late Wed-Sun	6,8,9,10
Kochanski	Wed-Mon	4-10	no	probably at forum table
Paul C. Anagnostopoulos	Wed--Mon	all U.S. except 5.5	yes	Scrut'inized
Wowbagger	Thurs-Sun?	3,4,5,5.5,6,7,8,9,10,L10	Yes

I am in.

zooterkin · 29th January 2013, 09:53 AM

Name	Days Attending	Experience	Can Reuse Button	Comments
BrianEngler	Tues-Mon	6,7,8,9,10	yes
Bumlet5	late Wed-Sun	6,8,9,10
Paul C. Anagnostopoulos	Wed--Mon	all U.S. except 5.5	yes	Scrut'inized
Wowbagger	Thurs-Sun?	3,4,5,5.5,6,7,8,9,10,L10	Yes
zooterkin	Tues-Tues	8,9,10,L9,L10	Yes

bumlet5 · 29th January 2013, 12:58 PM

Name	Days Attending	Experience	Can Reuse Button	Comments
BrianEngler	Tues-Mon	6,7,8,9,10	yes
Bumlet5	late Wed-Sun	6,8,9,10
Kochanski	Wed-Mon	4-10	no	probably at forum table
Paul C. Anagnostopoulos	Wed--Mon	all U.S. except 5.5	yes	Scrut'inized
Wowbagger	Thurs-Sun?	3,4,5,5.5,6,7,8,9,10,L10	Yes
zooterkin	Tues-Tues	8,9,10,L9,L10	Yes

Combined.

AdMan · 29th January 2013, 08:35 PM

Well, I don't yet know for certain whether I'll be attending but I likely will, and if so am happy to volunteer again, so I've added me to the list.

Name	Days Attending	Experience	Can Reuse Button	Comments
AdMan	Tues-Mon, TBC	8, 9, 10
BrianEngler	Tues-Mon	6,7,8,9,10	yes
Bumlet5	late Wed-Sun	6,8,9,10
Kochanski	Wed-Mon	4-10	no	probably at forum table
Paul C. Anagnostopoulos	Wed--Mon	all U.S. except 5.5	yes	Scrut'inized
Wowbagger	Thurs-Sun?	3,4,5,5.5,6,7,8,9,10,L10	Yes
zooterkin	Tues-Tues	8,9,10,L9,L10	Yes

zooterkin · 30th January 2013, 02:22 AM

Originally Posted by bumlet5

Combined.

Thanks! I must have still been editing when Kochanski posted.

bumlet5 · 2nd February 2013, 11:06 AM

Name	Days Attending	Experience	Can Reuse Button	Comments
AdMan	Tues-Mon, TBC	8, 9, 10
BrianEngler	Tues-Mon	6,7,8,9,10	yes
Bumlet5	late Wed-Sun	6,8,9,10	yes
Kochanski	Wed-Mon	4-10	no	probably at forum table
Paul C. Anagnostopoulos	Wed--Mon	all U.S. except 5.5	yes	Scrut'inized
Wowbagger	Thurs-Sun?	3,4,5,5.5,6,7,8,9,10,L10	Yes
zooterkin	Tues-Tues	8,9,10,L9,L10	Yes

Found my button!

Kil · 11th February 2013, 03:34 PM

If I make it to TAM, I'll be happy to do it again. Still have the button. We'll see.

bumlet5 · 11th February 2013, 09:44 PM

I found two extra buttons from last year!

AdMan · 11th February 2013, 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by bumlet5

I found two extra buttons from last year!

I think I'll need one.

I still have mine, but unfortunately it's in storage for a while...

Kil · 20th March 2013, 03:20 PM

Name	Days Attending	Experience	Can Reuse Button	Comments
AdMan	Tues-Mon, TBC	8, 9, 10
BrianEngler	Tues-Mon	6,7,8,9,10	yes
Bumlet5	late Wed-Sun	6,8,9,10	yes
Kil	Wed-Mon	4-10	Yes	The days are a hopeful guess at the moment.
Kochanski	Wed-Mon	4-10	no	probably at forum table
Paul C. Anagnostopoulos	Wed--Mon	all U.S. except 5.5	yes	Scrut'inized
Wowbagger	Thurs-Sun?	3,4,5,5.5,6,7,8,9,10,L10	Yes
zooterkin	Tues-Tues	8,9,10,L9,L10	Yes

BrianEngler · 7th April 2013, 08:02 PM

Regrettably I won't be able to get to TAM this year, so I can only be a TAMbassador in absentia. Have fun

Name	Days Attending	Experience	Can Reuse Button	Comments
AdMan	Tues-Mon, TBC	8, 9, 10
Bumlet5	late Wed-Sun	6,8,9,10	yes
Kil	Wed-Mon	4-10	Yes	The days are a hopeful guess at the moment.
Kochanski	Wed-Mon	4-10	no	probably at forum table
Paul C. Anagnostopoulos	Wed--Mon	all U.S. except 5.5	yes	Scrut'inized
Wowbagger	Thurs-Sun?	3,4,5,5.5,6,7,8,9,10,L10	Yes
zooterkin	Tues-Tues	8,9,10,L9,L10	Yes

AdMan · 8th April 2013, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by BrianEngler

Regrettably I won't be able to get to TAM this year, so I can only be a TAMbassador in absentia. Have fun

That's too bad, Brian. You'll be missed!

18th January 2013, 05:43 AM	#161
The Central Scrutinizer Penultimate Amazing Pither Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The White Zone Posts: 42,264	Originally Posted by AdMan While I see your point, to be honest I think the vast majority of those who ended up with a distorted view of us (and the other TAM volunteers) as some kind of "plainclothes security" weren't actually there. I think many who were there did see the TAMbassadors as a positive thing, based on my experience. I would be happy to volunteer again, assuming the JREF still likes the idea. I didn't know you guys were squealers until after TAM was over.
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18th January 2013, 07:59 AM	#162
krelnik Graduate Poster Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 1,185	Please don't let poorly researched Internet posts by people who (by and large) were not present at TAM dissuade you from the contribution you want to make.
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18th January 2013, 08:48 AM	#163
The Central Scrutinizer Penultimate Amazing Pither Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The White Zone Posts: 42,264	Originally Posted by krelnik Please don't let poorly researched Internet posts by people who (by and large) were not present at TAM dissuade you from the contribution you want to make. And by "poorly researched", you mean "not researched at all". I had fun last year following the twitter feed about all the problems at the conference, posted by people who I know for a fact weren't even there.
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18th January 2013, 09:43 AM	#164
dasmiller Just the right amount of cowbell Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Well past Hither, looking for Yon Posts: 3,459	Originally Posted by AdMan While I see your point, to be honest I think the vast majority of those who ended up with a distorted view of us (and the other TAM volunteers) as some kind of "plainclothes security" weren't actually there. I think many who were there did see the TAMbassadors as a positive thing, based on my experience. So . . . if I were to be a TAMbassador, does this mean I wouldn't be required to use a fake German accent and question everyone's motives? <sigh> nevermind, then
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18th January 2013, 10:39 AM	#165
Allecher Critical Thinker Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Arkansas Posts: 385	Not required, dasmiller, but totally fine by me. I don't want to derail the thread, but they took a picture of the group and the end of TAM. Does anyone know what happened to it?
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18th January 2013, 12:14 PM	#166
Wowbagger The Infinitely Prolonged Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Westchester County, NY (when not in space) Posts: 13,505	Originally Posted by Allecher I don't want to derail the thread, but they took a picture of the group and the end of TAM. Does anyone know what happened to it? I asked that very same question to a bunch of folks who would supposedly know about that. Never got much of an answer. Weird.
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18th January 2013, 01:57 PM	#167
Kochanski Master Poster Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Anonymous Unimportant Place (not a secret Scorpion training facility for Shosuro ninjas) Posts: 2,656	I will be happy to join the ranks of the TAMbassadors. Since I will probably be at the forum table again and people are likely to ask me questions anyway, I might as well make it official
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19th January 2013, 09:31 AM	#170
Horatius NWO Kitty Wrangler Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada Posts: 21,883	Originally Posted by Wowbagger If we stick with the same buttons, I can reuse mine from last year, and I am pretty sure others could do the same. But have a few extra for those who missed last year....
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19th January 2013, 10:43 AM	#172
zooterkin Nitpicking dilettante Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Berkshire, mostly Posts: 24,556	Just to step back a bit, the reason we had TAMbassadors was because it seemed, at one point, that there weren't going to be any volunteers helping run TAM, and people wanted to help. Now, I'm certainly not saying it was a bad idea, nor that we shouldn't have both TAMbassadors and volunteers, but I'm just wondering if we should take this opportunity to establish what we want the TAMbassador role to be, and if it should be separate from the volunteers or not. The main difference in practice last year was that volunteers had some scheduled duties (mainly helping with registration or manning the doors for events), and TAMbassadors didn't; both (overlapping) groups were also available to help with questions from attendees, and were asked to look out for any harassment problems. Personally, I don't have any problem with it; I was a volunteer as well, and the TAMbassador button was a way of indicating my willingness to help without having to wear the same T-shirt for 4 days. However, some people may have been concerned at the 'secret police' side of things; not necessarily what they were asked to do (which I thought totally reasonable), but at what some people thought they were doing (if that's not too convoluted). Of course, I don't think we know yet if volunteers will be needed this year. I'll be signing up for both, if possible. Thoughts?
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19th January 2013, 02:13 PM	#173
Paul C. Anagnostopoulos Nap, interrupted. Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: a little toolshed Posts: 18,589	I was a TAMbassador and I didn't even realize that we were looked at askance. Now, I'm not deeply in the blogoloop, but I think this demonstrates that the job had value without being too weird. ~~ Paul
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19th January 2013, 04:13 PM	#175
Wowbagger The Infinitely Prolonged Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Westchester County, NY (when not in space) Posts: 13,505	Originally Posted by zooterkin I'm just wondering if we should take this opportunity to establish what we want the TAMbassador role to be, and if it should be separate from the volunteers or not. The main difference in practice last year was that volunteers had some scheduled duties (mainly helping with registration or manning the doors for events), and TAMbassadors didn't; both (overlapping) groups were also available to help with questions from attendees, and were asked to look out for any harassment problems. I think you have the gist of it: A TAMbassador is willing to be asked questions from newbies. A volunteer is willing to accept certain scheduled tasks. One can be both, but one can choose one or the other. Or neither. Some volunteers might not like being "hounded on" for questions, and so won't wear a TAMbassador badge. TAMbassadors might enjoy answering questions, and will wear the badge, but won't want to volunteer for specific scheduled tasks, and thus won't do so. We were not asked to "look out" for any harassment problems. But, rather to report any problems to the proper authorities if we happen to witness any. This, I imagine, is what a normal, non-TAMbassador would do, anyway. The only real difference is that we had some extra phone numbers handy. We were not authorized to do jacksquat besides that.
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19th January 2013, 05:53 PM	#176
Horatius NWO Kitty Wrangler Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada Posts: 21,883	Originally Posted by Wowbagger We were not asked to "look out" for any harassment problems. But, rather to report any problems to the proper authorities if we happen to witness any. This, I imagine, is what a normal, non-TAMbassador would do, anyway. The only real difference is that we had some extra phone numbers handy. We were not authorized to do jacksquat besides that. Which is a perfectly reasonable thing to be doing. So of course it got blown out of proportion by the usual windbags.
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20th January 2013, 12:11 PM	#179
BrianEngler Thinker Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Burke, VA Posts: 139	Originally Posted by Wowbagger I asked that very same question to a bunch of folks who would supposedly know about that. Never got much of an answer. Weird. Wondered this myself. Just asked Ingrid Laas (the official TAM photographer who, as I recall, took this pic) if she can share. I'll let you know if I find out anything.

20th January 2013, 08:42 PM	#182
rustypouch Philosopher Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Belfort Posts: 5,114	Originally Posted by The Central Scrutinizer I'm good at harassment, I think I'll sign up!!! I'll be sure to bring my harassin' shoes next time.

28th January 2013, 04:53 PM	#185
bumlet5 Indescribable Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The dark recesses of my imagination. Posts: 4,171	Originally Posted by BrianEngler Fixed table. Sorry about that.
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30th January 2013, 02:22 AM	#190
zooterkin Nitpicking dilettante Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Berkshire, mostly Posts: 24,556	Originally Posted by bumlet5 Combined. Thanks! I must have still been editing when Kochanski posted.
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11th February 2013, 03:34 PM	#192
Kil Thinker Join Date: May 2004 Location: California Posts: 242	If I make it to TAM, I'll be happy to do it again. Still have the button. We'll see.
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11th February 2013, 09:44 PM	#193
bumlet5 Indescribable Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The dark recesses of my imagination. Posts: 4,171	I found two extra buttons from last year!
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11th February 2013, 09:56 PM	#194
AdMan Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 7,160	Originally Posted by bumlet5 I found two extra buttons from last year! I think I'll need one. I still have mine, but unfortunately it's in storage for a while...
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8th April 2013, 05:48 PM	#197
AdMan Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 7,160	Originally Posted by BrianEngler Regrettably I won't be able to get to TAM this year, so I can only be a TAMbassador in absentia. Have fun That's too bad, Brian. You'll be missed!
AdMan Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 7,160