Prometheus, evolution, and the role of aliens in creating the human race - Page 4

Mudcat · 12th September 2012, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by MG1962

But Uranus was never Neptune which is basically what you are asking.

Nope. Uranus isn't exactly unique in planets in real life as a celestial body that have multiple names, either. Extrasolar planets and stars sometimes 4 different names at the same time. Your insistence that the planet isn't the same is like saying that the celestial bodies with multiple names are 4 (or more) different bodies.

But let's put it this way:

In Alien, the normal science officer of the Nostromo is replaced by Ash. Ripley is suspicious of him from the start, so the first thing she does after the captain is apparently killed is confirm her suspicions.

Those suspicions are well founded because when she looks into Mother's data banks she finds Special Order 937, which Ash latter confirms is a command for Nostromo redirect to LV-223/LV-426/Acheron so that a specimen can be collected from the derelict ship.

Let's suppose that LV-223 and LV-426 are two different planets. Why would Weyland-Yutani redirect Nostromo to LV-426 (where they couldn't know another ship was already there) as opposed to LV-223 (where they new for sure a ship was there)?

Answer? LV-223 is another name for LV-426, just as Acheron is.

Originally Posted by MG

He used the gizmo to guide the other around during the initial investigation of the ruins

His pride wasn't on the line then. I know it's a perplexing reason, but people actually do that.

lopeyschools · 12th September 2012, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by Mudcat

But let's put it this way:

In Alien, the normal science officer of the Nostromo is replaced by Ash. Ripley is suspicious of him from the start, so the first thing she does after the captain is apparently killed is confirm her suspicions.

Those suspicions are well founded because when she looks into Mother's data banks she finds Special Order 937, which Ash latter confirms is a command for Nostromo redirect to LV-223/LV-426/Acheron so that a specimen can be collected from the derelict ship.

Let's suppose that LV-223 and LV-426 are two different planets. Why would Weyland-Yutani redirect Nostromo to LV-426 (where they couldn't know another ship was already there) as opposed to LV-223 (where they new for sure a ship was there)?
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That's a good point. It could just be a plot hole though.

Beerina · 12th September 2012, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by Mudcat

They've genetically engineered themselves. I'd have thought that would have been extremely obvious considering the fact they all look exactly alike to each other.

Ain't buyin' it. They'd all be 10 foot women with bowling ball boobs and 3' foot weiners in place of clitorati.

Beerina · 12th September 2012, 12:37 PM

Regarding the 1 vs. 2 planets thing, it's transparently obvious they were writing a prequel to explain how the alien ship got crash landed, then thought better of it and slapped a different name code on the planet.

Wisely in my opinion. The previous one was crashed because a bug burst from the chest of the famed recumbant mummy. No other explanation would satisfy. The more cleverly they twisted the history to fit, the more ripped off I'd feel.

I mostly didn't like the forced human evolution stuff. Are we supposed to believe all life was deposited and rapidly grown in a few million years? At one point they wonder about this and then just let it drop. No rationality possible at that point with petatons of evolutionary evidence for the 4 billion year existence of life, much less "normal" evolution.

Mudcat · 12th September 2012, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by lopeyschools

That's a good point. It could just be a plot hole though.

Here's a perplexing one for you:

Weyland-Yutani is this mega-corporation in the 22^nd century with a lot of influence, power, money, a huge reach, and probably even their own private military force. They more than likely have ability to send a dedicated research group to study the derelict ship.

So why go through the cloak and dagger nonsense by covertly redirecting the Nostromo, a commercial hauler? It did not have the facilities or trained crew to capture, contain, or study the xenomorphs. Even a cursory glance could identify the Nostromo as the wrong ship to send to extract samples from the derelict ship and a highly likely failure point in the plan.

Mudcat · 12th September 2012, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by Beerina

Ain't buyin' it. They'd all be 10 foot women with bowling ball boobs and 3' foot weiners in place of clitorati.

Ain't buyin' it. Their current form could be the result of generations of extreme genetic engineering in pursuit of their idea of perfection.

Originally Posted by Beerina

Wisely in my opinion. The previous one was crashed because a bug burst from the chest of the famed recumbant mummy.

And the one that died in Prometheus had died because of a chest buster.

Originally Posted by Beerina

The 2 vs 1 planet thing.

My explanation actually makes sense. That they changed their mind part way is irrelevant.

lopeyschools · 12th September 2012, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by Mudcat

Here's a perplexing one for you:

Weyland-Yutani is this mega-corporation in the 22^nd century with a lot of influence, power, money, a huge reach, and probably even their own private military force. They more than likely have ability to send a dedicated research group to study the derelict ship.

So why go through the cloak and dagger nonsense by covertly redirecting the Nostromo, a commercial hauler? It did not have the facilities or trained crew to capture, contain, or study the xenomorphs. Even a cursory glance could identify the Nostromo as the wrong ship to send to extract samples from the derelict ship and a highly likely failure point in the plan.

Maybe they suffered from an overly bureaucratic administration?

Mudcat · 12th September 2012, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by lopeyschools

Maybe they suffered from an overly bureaucratic administration?

Or maybe they had a lapse in judgement and did it the way a CTist would.

Earthborn · 12th September 2012, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by Mudcat

Let's suppose that LV-223 and LV-426 are two different planets.

Even if they are different worlds, they are both:

orbiting a ringed gas giant
one of 3 moons orbiting a ringed gas giant
moons of gas giants orbiting the same star, Gliese 86. Or possibly moons of the same gas giant.

Sources:
http://avp.wikia.com/wiki/LV-223
http://avp.wikia.com/wiki/Acheron_(LV-426)

Either they are exactly the same, or are really close. Close enough perhaps that one small navigation error might cause one to land on one of them while thinking one is landing on the other.

Originally Posted by Mudcat

Weyland-Yutani is this mega-corporation in the 22^nd century with a lot of influence, power, money, a huge reach, and probably even their own private military force. They more than likely have ability to send a dedicated research group to study the derelict ship.

Maybe not. In Prometheus the corporation is called Weyland. Without the Yutani. Perhaps the Weyland CEO used such a ridiculous amount of his corporation's funding to chase after his dream of immortality-by-sending-cruise-ship-to-unexplored-moon that it was left completely bankrupt, and was cheap for the Yutani company to take over.

Quote:

So why go through the cloak and dagger nonsense by covertly redirecting the Nostromo, a commercial hauler?

Maybe after Weyland ruined his company, Yutani took over the company, made drastic cuts to keep only what was profitable: freight. To appease the shareholders that Weyland-Yutani would not engage in any gazillion dollar adventures like Weyland did, Weyland-Yutani officially says it is not interested going back to the Gliese 86 system. Sneakily, someone thought of a way to send some people to find out what happened there in the cheapest way possible.

That's my guess anyway.

Mudcat · 12th September 2012, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by Earthborn

Even if they are different worlds, they are both:

orbiting a ringed gas giant
one of 3 moons orbiting a ringed gas giant
moons of gas giants orbiting the same star, Gliese 86. Or possibly moons of the same gas giant.

Sources:
http://avp.wikia.com/wiki/LV-223
http://avp.wikia.com/wiki/Acheron_(LV-426)

Either they are exactly the same, or are really close. Close enough perhaps that one small navigation error might cause one to land on one of them while thinking one is landing on the other.

That would be one hell of a navigation error, not to mention an epic coincidence of insane astronomical odds.

Originally Posted by Earthborn

Maybe not. In Prometheus the corporation is called Weyland. Without the Yutani. Perhaps the Weyland CEO used such a ridiculous amount of his corporation's funding to chase after his dream of immortality-by-sending-cruise-ship-to-unexplored-moon that it was left completely bankrupt, and was cheap for the Yutani company to take over.

Maybe after Weyland ruined his company, Yutani took over the company, made drastic cuts to keep only what was profitable: freight. To appease the shareholders that Weyland-Yutani would not engage in any gazillion dollar adventures like Weyland did, Weyland-Yutani officially says it is not interested going back to the Gliese 86 system. Sneakily, someone thought of a way to send some people to find out what happened there in the cheapest way possible.

Nice theory except for the fact that it's run by Weyland in Aliens and Alien 3.

Cheesy One · 13th September 2012, 07:18 AM

It's my understanding that it's the same system but different planets. I'm guessing originally it was going to be the same plant but they changed their minds and thus changed it to another planet. Would've made sense if the Engineer's death has been the same.

How it Should have Ended on youtube made a great video about Prometheus.

Mudcat · 13th September 2012, 07:27 AM

Originally Posted by Cheesy One

It's my understanding that it's the same system but different planets. I'm guessing originally it was going to be the same plant but they changed their minds and thus changed it to another planet. Would've made sense if the Engineer's death has been the same.

How it Should have Ended on youtube made a great video about Prometheus.

Do you have a link?

Mudcat · 13th September 2012, 10:02 AM

Getting this back on track:

The whole 'ancient alien' thing is a cliche of modern science fiction, it's been been done to death, resurrected as a zombie, and done to death again. It is perhaps one of the most annoying cliches of all time.

The Stargate series had three different 'ancient alien' type races (well four, actually, but one of them never made an appearance). Ancients were ancestors of humanity (alternatively they were closely related to us and we evolved independently of them, the series seems to go back and forth on this), the Asgard gave us technological advancements and protection, and the Go'auld had enslaved the ancient Egyptians (at the very least).

The whole 'directed transpermia' idea (like, for example, the Engineers of Prometheus) is perhaps the lamest idea ever, and doesn't make a whole lot of sense that an 'ancient alien' race would do it.

Cheesy One · 13th September 2012, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by Mudcat

Do you have a link?

This is it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdavBZwBP5Q

Earthborn · 13th September 2012, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by Mudcat

That would be one hell of a navigation error,

It is the same star. And because two nearly identical gas giants within the habitable zone of one star seems unlikely, I am guessing the planet LV426 and LV223 are orbiting is the same. If LV426 and LV223 are not the same moon, then at least they are moon nr. 1 out of 3 and moon nr. 2 out of 3 of the same planet. If the system has not been extensively explored, it may be easier to confuse the two.

Quote:

Nice theory except for the fact that it's run by Weyland in Aliens and Alien 3.

Is it? I can find no mention of "Weyland" in the script of Aliens and only references to "Weyland-Yutani" in the script of Alien 3 apart from some computer messages. I haven't checked how well these scripts represent the movies.

My theory does fit nicely with the AvP movie. That one is situated well before Prometheus, and has a company called "Weyland Industries". Weyland, without the Yutani.

Mudcat · 13th September 2012, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by Earthborn

It is the same star. And because two nearly identical gas giants within the habitable zone of one star seems unlikely, I am guessing the planet LV426 and LV223 are orbiting is the same. If LV426 and LV223 are not the same moon, then at least they are moon nr. 1 out of 3 and moon nr. 2 out of 3 of the same planet. If the system has not been extensively explored, it may be easier to confuse the two.

Nostromo may have be intentionally redirected to the system, but they still followed the transmission to the planetoid.

Originally Posted by Earthborn

Is it? I can find no mention of "Weyland" in the script of Aliens and only references to "Weyland-Yutani" in the script of Alien 3 apart from some computer messages. I haven't checked how well these scripts represent the movies.

My theory does fit nicely with the AvP movie. That one is situated well before Prometheus, and has a company called "Weyland Industries". Weyland, without the Yutani.

Most fans would object to AvP being included as the core Alien or Predator series (who can blame them?).

12th September 2012, 10:59 AM	#121
Mudcat Man of a Thousand Memes Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 3,679	Originally Posted by MG1962 But Uranus was never Neptune which is basically what you are asking. Nope. Uranus isn't exactly unique in planets in real life as a celestial body that have multiple names, either. Extrasolar planets and stars sometimes 4 different names at the same time. Your insistence that the planet isn't the same is like saying that the celestial bodies with multiple names are 4 (or more) different bodies. But let's put it this way: In Alien, the normal science officer of the Nostromo is replaced by Ash. Ripley is suspicious of him from the start, so the first thing she does after the captain is apparently killed is confirm her suspicions. Those suspicions are well founded because when she looks into Mother's data banks she finds Special Order 937, which Ash latter confirms is a command for Nostromo redirect to LV-223/LV-426/Acheron so that a specimen can be collected from the derelict ship. Let's suppose that LV-223 and LV-426 are two different planets. Why would Weyland-Yutani redirect Nostromo to LV-426 (where they couldn't know another ship was already there) as opposed to LV-223 (where they new for sure a ship was there)? Answer? LV-223 is another name for LV-426, just as Acheron is. Originally Posted by MG He used the gizmo to guide the other around during the initial investigation of the ruins His pride wasn't on the line then. I know it's a perplexing reason, but people actually do that.
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12th September 2012, 12:16 PM	#123
Beerina Sarcastic Conqueror of Notions Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: A floating island above the clouds Posts: 23,835	Originally Posted by Mudcat They've genetically engineered themselves. I'd have thought that would have been extremely obvious considering the fact they all look exactly alike to each other. Ain't buyin' it. They'd all be 10 foot women with bowling ball boobs and 3' foot weiners in place of clitorati.
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12th September 2012, 12:37 PM	#124
Beerina Sarcastic Conqueror of Notions Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: A floating island above the clouds Posts: 23,835	Regarding the 1 vs. 2 planets thing, it's transparently obvious they were writing a prequel to explain how the alien ship got crash landed, then thought better of it and slapped a different name code on the planet. Wisely in my opinion. The previous one was crashed because a bug burst from the chest of the famed recumbant mummy. No other explanation would satisfy. The more cleverly they twisted the history to fit, the more ripped off I'd feel. I mostly didn't like the forced human evolution stuff. Are we supposed to believe all life was deposited and rapidly grown in a few million years? At one point they wonder about this and then just let it drop. No rationality possible at that point with petatons of evolutionary evidence for the 4 billion year existence of life, much less "normal" evolution.
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12th September 2012, 12:39 PM	#125
Mudcat Man of a Thousand Memes Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 3,679	Originally Posted by lopeyschools That's a good point. It could just be a plot hole though. Here's a perplexing one for you: Weyland-Yutani is this mega-corporation in the 22^nd century with a lot of influence, power, money, a huge reach, and probably even their own private military force. They more than likely have ability to send a dedicated research group to study the derelict ship. So why go through the cloak and dagger nonsense by covertly redirecting the Nostromo, a commercial hauler? It did not have the facilities or trained crew to capture, contain, or study the xenomorphs. Even a cursory glance could identify the Nostromo as the wrong ship to send to extract samples from the derelict ship and a highly likely failure point in the plan.
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12th September 2012, 12:41 PM	#126
Mudcat Man of a Thousand Memes Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 3,679	Originally Posted by Beerina Ain't buyin' it. They'd all be 10 foot women with bowling ball boobs and 3' foot weiners in place of clitorati. Ain't buyin' it. Their current form could be the result of generations of extreme genetic engineering in pursuit of their idea of perfection. Originally Posted by Beerina Wisely in my opinion. The previous one was crashed because a bug burst from the chest of the famed recumbant mummy. And the one that died in Prometheus had died because of a chest buster. Originally Posted by Beerina The 2 vs 1 planet thing. My explanation actually makes sense. That they changed their mind part way is irrelevant.
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12th September 2012, 11:58 AM	#122
lopeyschools Critical Thinker Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: West Coast - BC Posts: 372	Originally Posted by Mudcat But let's put it this way: In Alien, the normal science officer of the Nostromo is replaced by Ash. Ripley is suspicious of him from the start, so the first thing she does after the captain is apparently killed is confirm her suspicions. Those suspicions are well founded because when she looks into Mother's data banks she finds Special Order 937, which Ash latter confirms is a command for Nostromo redirect to LV-223/LV-426/Acheron so that a specimen can be collected from the derelict ship. Let's suppose that LV-223 and LV-426 are two different planets. Why would Weyland-Yutani redirect Nostromo to LV-426 (where they couldn't know another ship was already there) as opposed to LV-223 (where they new for sure a ship was there)? . That's a good point. It could just be a plot hole though.

12th September 2012, 01:15 PM	#127
lopeyschools Critical Thinker Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: West Coast - BC Posts: 372	Originally Posted by Mudcat Here's a perplexing one for you: Weyland-Yutani is this mega-corporation in the 22^nd century with a lot of influence, power, money, a huge reach, and probably even their own private military force. They more than likely have ability to send a dedicated research group to study the derelict ship. So why go through the cloak and dagger nonsense by covertly redirecting the Nostromo, a commercial hauler? It did not have the facilities or trained crew to capture, contain, or study the xenomorphs. Even a cursory glance could identify the Nostromo as the wrong ship to send to extract samples from the derelict ship and a highly likely failure point in the plan. Maybe they suffered from an overly bureaucratic administration?

12th September 2012, 01:42 PM	#128
Mudcat Man of a Thousand Memes Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 3,679	Originally Posted by lopeyschools Maybe they suffered from an overly bureaucratic administration? Or maybe they had a lapse in judgement and did it the way a CTist would.
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12th September 2012, 02:53 PM	#129
Earthborn Terrestrial Intelligence Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Terra Firma Posts: 5,646	Originally Posted by Mudcat Let's suppose that LV-223 and LV-426 are two different planets. Even if they are different worlds, they are both: orbiting a ringed gas giant one of 3 moons orbiting a ringed gas giant moons of gas giants orbiting the same star, Gliese 86. Or possibly moons of the same gas giant. Sources: http://avp.wikia.com/wiki/LV-223 http://avp.wikia.com/wiki/Acheron_(LV-426) Either they are exactly the same, or are really close. Close enough perhaps that one small navigation error might cause one to land on one of them while thinking one is landing on the other. Originally Posted by Mudcat Weyland-Yutani is this mega-corporation in the 22^nd century with a lot of influence, power, money, a huge reach, and probably even their own private military force. They more than likely have ability to send a dedicated research group to study the derelict ship. Maybe not. In Prometheus the corporation is called Weyland. Without the Yutani. Perhaps the Weyland CEO used such a ridiculous amount of his corporation's funding to chase after his dream of immortality-by-sending-cruise-ship-to-unexplored-moon that it was left completely bankrupt, and was cheap for the Yutani company to take over. Quote: So why go through the cloak and dagger nonsense by covertly redirecting the Nostromo, a commercial hauler? Maybe after Weyland ruined his company, Yutani took over the company, made drastic cuts to keep only what was profitable: freight. To appease the shareholders that Weyland-Yutani would not engage in any gazillion dollar adventures like Weyland did, Weyland-Yutani officially says it is not interested going back to the Gliese 86 system. Sneakily, someone thought of a way to send some people to find out what happened there in the cheapest way possible. That's my guess anyway.
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12th September 2012, 10:08 PM	#130
Mudcat Man of a Thousand Memes Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 3,679	Originally Posted by Earthborn Even if they are different worlds, they are both: orbiting a ringed gas giant one of 3 moons orbiting a ringed gas giant moons of gas giants orbiting the same star, Gliese 86. Or possibly moons of the same gas giant. Sources: http://avp.wikia.com/wiki/LV-223 http://avp.wikia.com/wiki/Acheron_(LV-426) Either they are exactly the same, or are really close. Close enough perhaps that one small navigation error might cause one to land on one of them while thinking one is landing on the other. That would be one hell of a navigation error, not to mention an epic coincidence of insane astronomical odds. Originally Posted by Earthborn Maybe not. In Prometheus the corporation is called Weyland. Without the Yutani. Perhaps the Weyland CEO used such a ridiculous amount of his corporation's funding to chase after his dream of immortality-by-sending-cruise-ship-to-unexplored-moon that it was left completely bankrupt, and was cheap for the Yutani company to take over. Maybe after Weyland ruined his company, Yutani took over the company, made drastic cuts to keep only what was profitable: freight. To appease the shareholders that Weyland-Yutani would not engage in any gazillion dollar adventures like Weyland did, Weyland-Yutani officially says it is not interested going back to the Gliese 86 system. Sneakily, someone thought of a way to send some people to find out what happened there in the cheapest way possible. Nice theory except for the fact that it's run by Weyland in Aliens and Alien 3.
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13th September 2012, 07:18 AM	#131
Cheesy One Scholar Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: The Moon Posts: 75	It's my understanding that it's the same system but different planets. I'm guessing originally it was going to be the same plant but they changed their minds and thus changed it to another planet. Would've made sense if the Engineer's death has been the same. How it Should have Ended on youtube made a great video about Prometheus.

13th September 2012, 07:27 AM	#132
Mudcat Man of a Thousand Memes Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 3,679	Originally Posted by Cheesy One It's my understanding that it's the same system but different planets. I'm guessing originally it was going to be the same plant but they changed their minds and thus changed it to another planet. Would've made sense if the Engineer's death has been the same. How it Should have Ended on youtube made a great video about Prometheus. Do you have a link?
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13th September 2012, 10:02 AM	#133
Mudcat Man of a Thousand Memes Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 3,679	Getting this back on track: The whole 'ancient alien' thing is a cliche of modern science fiction, it's been been done to death, resurrected as a zombie, and done to death again. It is perhaps one of the most annoying cliches of all time. The Stargate series had three different 'ancient alien' type races (well four, actually, but one of them never made an appearance). Ancients were ancestors of humanity (alternatively they were closely related to us and we evolved independently of them, the series seems to go back and forth on this), the Asgard gave us technological advancements and protection, and the Go'auld had enslaved the ancient Egyptians (at the very least). The whole 'directed transpermia' idea (like, for example, the Engineers of Prometheus) is perhaps the lamest idea ever, and doesn't make a whole lot of sense that an 'ancient alien' race would do it.
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13th September 2012, 10:48 AM	#134
Cheesy One Scholar Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: The Moon Posts: 75	Originally Posted by Mudcat Do you have a link? This is it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdavBZwBP5Q

13th September 2012, 02:24 PM	#135
Earthborn Terrestrial Intelligence Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Terra Firma Posts: 5,646	Originally Posted by Mudcat That would be one hell of a navigation error, It is the same star. And because two nearly identical gas giants within the habitable zone of one star seems unlikely, I am guessing the planet LV426 and LV223 are orbiting is the same. If LV426 and LV223 are not the same moon, then at least they are moon nr. 1 out of 3 and moon nr. 2 out of 3 of the same planet. If the system has not been extensively explored, it may be easier to confuse the two. Quote: Nice theory except for the fact that it's run by Weyland in Aliens and Alien 3. Is it? I can find no mention of "Weyland" in the script of Aliens and only references to "Weyland-Yutani" in the script of Alien 3 apart from some computer messages. I haven't checked how well these scripts represent the movies. My theory does fit nicely with the AvP movie. That one is situated well before Prometheus, and has a company called "Weyland Industries". Weyland, without the Yutani.
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13th September 2012, 06:30 PM	#136
Mudcat Man of a Thousand Memes Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 3,679	Originally Posted by Earthborn It is the same star. And because two nearly identical gas giants within the habitable zone of one star seems unlikely, I am guessing the planet LV426 and LV223 are orbiting is the same. If LV426 and LV223 are not the same moon, then at least they are moon nr. 1 out of 3 and moon nr. 2 out of 3 of the same planet. If the system has not been extensively explored, it may be easier to confuse the two. Nostromo may have be intentionally redirected to the system, but they still followed the transmission to the planetoid. Originally Posted by Earthborn Is it? I can find no mention of "Weyland" in the script of Aliens and only references to "Weyland-Yutani" in the script of Alien 3 apart from some computer messages. I haven't checked how well these scripts represent the movies. My theory does fit nicely with the AvP movie. That one is situated well before Prometheus, and has a company called "Weyland Industries". Weyland, without the Yutani. Most fans would object to AvP being included as the core Alien or Predator series (who can blame them?).
	__________________ The major problem with Ocham's Razor is that while the simplest answer may be the best answer that doesn't make it the only answer or the right one. Kopji: A perfect utopia where everyone follows the rules is more like a hell than a heaven.