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Toontown · 15th June 2012, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by dlorde

As the great Goon Show had it:

Seagoon: "Eccles! what are you doing here?"
Eccles: "Der... everybody gotta be somewhere".

The great Goon Show is, not surprisingly, dead wrong.

The "Eccles" entity didn't have to be somewhere. The Eccles entity didn't have to be anywhere at all. Ever. The Eccles entity eventually emerged against near-infinite odds against ever being anywhere, during the universal quantum crap-shoot that occurred shortly after the big bang.

Halfcentaur · 15th June 2012, 05:47 PM

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kerikiwi · 15th June 2012, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by Toontown

The great Goon Show is, not surprisingly, dead wrong.

The "Eccles" entity didn't have to be somewhere. The Eccles entity didn't have to be anywhere at all. Ever. The Eccles entity eventually emerged against near-infinite odds against ever being anywhere, during the universal quantum crap-shoot that occurred shortly after the big bang.

But once Eccles emerged, he did, in fact, have to be somewhere.

Toontown · 16th June 2012, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by kerikiwi

But once Eccles emerged, he did, in fact, have to be somewhere.

And I am sure everyone needs to be constantly reminded that they exist, 1=1, yada yada yada, and so on.

But that's not the question. That's the brute fact that gives rise to the question.

But no longer the question as far as I'm concerned, as I have now completely lost interest in discussing the matter.

Awk! The probability that I exist is 1! Awk! The probability that I exist is 1! Awk! The probability that I exist is 1! Awk!...

Flap flap flap flap flap flap ....awk!

Irony · 16th June 2012, 09:58 AM

That's a very convincing parrot impersonation Toontown.

Perhaps too convincing.

Since it's been established in this topic that surface appearance is the same as deeper meaning, and that making things up makes them true, perhaps Toontown really is a parrot.

Toontown · 16th June 2012, 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by Irony

That's a very convincing parrot impersonation Toontown.

Perhaps too convincing.

Since it's been established in this topic that surface appearance is the same as deeper meaning, and that making things up makes them true, perhaps Toontown really is a parrot.

I am quite sure adequate intellectual resources are available here to beat about the bush of deeper meaning without my participation. I've seen people in philosophy forums beat about that bush for months on end. Then I"ve looked in months later to find the same bush being beaten about, much as it was being beaten about in earlier epochs.

As for making things up to make them true - no need to bother with that. Just stick with the standard tautologies. Can't go wrong there.

dafydd · 16th June 2012, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by reverebison

'

Your consciousness is existence. The universe cannot exist without consciousness. .

It has existed for most of its existence without consciousness.

Mark6 · 16th June 2012, 04:48 PM

Post 1: reverebison does not understand probability

Post 28: reverbison is a troll

He goes onto my Ignore list

bruto · 16th June 2012, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by Toontown

I am quite sure adequate intellectual resources are available here to beat about the bush of deeper meaning without my participation. I've seen people in philosophy forums beat about that bush for months on end. Then I"ve looked in months later to find the same bush being beaten about, much as it was being beaten about in earlier epochs.

As for making things up to make them true - no need to bother with that. Just stick with the standard tautologies. Can't go wrong there.

In most of the philosophy I studied the bush turned out to be the subject.

dlorde · 17th June 2012, 12:49 AM

Originally Posted by Toontown

... I have now completely lost interest in discussing the matter.

Toontown · 17th June 2012, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by dlorde

You feel sarcastic about getting what you want?

Other than to comment briefly on the strangeness of feeling sarcastic about getting what you want, I will decline to dwell on the psychology behind that response. Like you, I am finding myself increasingly disinterested in any aspect of your unremarkable existence.

Toontown · 17th June 2012, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by bruto

In most of the philosophy I studied the bush turned out to be the subject.

In most of the philosophical discussions I"ve observed, the participants demonstrated little more than a stubborn determination to avoid actually getting at the bush - a determination which has succeeded in preventing any of these matters from being settled over the course of millenia.

Twiler · 18th June 2012, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by Toontown

In most of the philosophical discussions I"ve observed, the participants demonstrated little more than a stubborn determination to avoid actually getting at the bush - a determination which has succeeded in preventing any of these matters from being settled over the course of millenia.

Huh?

Belz... · 18th June 2012, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by reverebison

what are the odds:

1. that you were born a highly evolved human being after 4.5 billion years of life on this earth. Billions of consciousness born and die every day on this earth and after 4 billion years of that, you were born.

2. You are here on this planet called Earth, that of all the dead planets in our universe, you happened by chance to come to be born on the only life planet arround for light years, maybe forever.

3. that you were born at all in a universe created once by a big bang, a universe some experts say eventually dies and dies forever.

What are the odds that you were so lucky?

1.

Thanks for asking.

Belz... · 18th June 2012, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by reverebison

The universe cannot exist without consciousness.

Patently false.

Finish high school.

CosmicDP · 18th June 2012, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by Toontown

And I am sure everyone needs to be constantly reminded that they exist, 1=1, yada yada yada, and so on.

But that's not the question. That's the brute fact that gives rise to the question.

But no longer the question as far as I'm concerned, as I have now completely lost interest in discussing the matter.

Awk! The probability that I exist is 1! Awk! The probability that I exist is 1! Awk! The probability that I exist is 1! Awk!...

Flap flap flap flap flap flap ....awk!

Originally Posted by Toontown

In most of the philosophical discussions I"ve observed, the participants demonstrated little more than a stubborn determination to avoid actually getting at the bush - a determination which has succeeded in preventing any of these matters from being settled over the course of millenia.

I know how you feel, the cognitive dissonance can be strong around here. You should try engaging some of these people in a scholarly discussion concerning bottsrgeddon.

Evolved Wookie · 19th June 2012, 01:29 AM

Originally Posted by Toontown

In most of the philosophical discussions I"ve observed, the participants demonstrated little more than a stubborn determination to avoid actually getting at the bush - a determination which has succeeded in preventing any of these matters from being settled over the course of millenia.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw7AYJikDJE

ETA: Hmm - how does one embed a youtube video..?

Lowpro · 19th June 2012, 01:56 AM

Originally Posted by Evolved Wookie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw7AYJikDJE

ETA: Hmm - how does one embed a youtube video..?

the wrap tags are[yt] and ['/yt] (sans the apostrophe)

You take the ending of your video, which is "zw7AYJikDJE" and paste it between the wrap tags

and voila!

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Evolved Wookie · 19th June 2012, 02:03 AM

Originally Posted by Lowpro

the wrap tags are[yt] and ['/yt] (sans the apostrophe)

You take the ending of your video, which is "zw7AYJikDJE" and paste it between the wrap tags

and voila!

Thanks!

Toontown · 19th June 2012, 05:52 AM

Originally Posted by CosmicDP

I know how you feel, the cognitive dissonance can be strong around here. You should try engaging some of these people in a scholarly discussion concerning bottsrgeddon.

What part of "I've completely lost interest in discussing the matter" was difficult for you to accept?

Here. Badger Dawkins for a while. You can repost his video with your Shakehead under it. That will show us.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGGmu...layer_embedded

CosmicDP · 19th June 2012, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by Toontown

What part of "I've completely lost interest in discussing the matter" was difficult for you to accept?

Here. Badger Dawkins for a while. You can repost his video with your Shakehead under it. That will show us.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGGmu...layer_embedded

At first I was going to make some sarcastic comment about your reading comprehension because you appear to have understood my post to mean something diametrically opposed to my intent. Then I went back and reread my post and realized in an electronic format where tone cannot be heard and therefore intent not discerned it may have been ambiguous. Just to clarify, I was not being sarcastic towards you, I was sympathizing with you.

tsig · 19th June 2012, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by Toontown

What part of "I've completely lost interest in discussing the matter" was difficult for you to accept?

Here. Badger Dawkins for a while. You can repost his video with your Shakehead under it. That will show us.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGGmu...layer_embedded

You're rather vocal in a thread you've lost interest in.

Lack of interest is usually shown by not posting.

CosmicDP · 19th June 2012, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by tsig

You're rather vocal in a thread you've lost interest in.

Lack of interest is usually shown by not posting.

He's really defying the odds.

Toontown · 19th June 2012, 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by CosmicDP

At first I was going to make some sarcastic comment about your reading comprehension because you appear to have understood my post to mean something diametrically opposed to my intent. Then I went back and reread my post and realized in an electronic format where tone cannot be heard and therefore intent not discerned it may have been ambiguous. Just to clarify, I was not being sarcastic towards you, I was sympathizing with you.

Sorry I misunderstood. But I don't need any sympathy.

Toontown · 19th June 2012, 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by tsig

You're rather vocal in a thread you've lost interest in.

Lack of interest is usually shown by not posting.

So what is it that you are so interested in? I suppose it must be very important to you to explain to me how disinterest is usually shown. However, I can assure you that I have zero interest in your opinion about how disinterest should be shown.

dafydd · 20th June 2012, 01:29 AM

I owe my existence to Adolf Hitler.

Halfcentaur · 20th June 2012, 03:08 AM

Originally Posted by Toontown

What part of "I've completely lost interest in discussing the matter" was difficult for you to accept?

Here. Badger Dawkins for a while. You can repost his video with your Shakehead under it. That will show us.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGGmu...layer_embedded

Hey, I already posted this up there ^

15th June 2012, 11:52 AM	#81
Toontown Illuminator Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 3,555	Originally Posted by dlorde As the great Goon Show had it: Seagoon: "Eccles! what are you doing here?" Eccles: "Der... everybody gotta be somewhere". The great Goon Show is, not surprisingly, dead wrong. The "Eccles" entity didn't have to be somewhere. The Eccles entity didn't have to be anywhere at all. Ever. The Eccles entity eventually emerged against near-infinite odds against ever being anywhere, during the universal quantum crap-shoot that occurred shortly after the big bang.
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16th June 2012, 09:35 AM	#84
Toontown Illuminator Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 3,555	Originally Posted by kerikiwi But once Eccles emerged, he did, in fact, have to be somewhere. And I am sure everyone needs to be constantly reminded that they exist, 1=1, yada yada yada, and so on. But that's not the question. That's the brute fact that gives rise to the question. But no longer the question as far as I'm concerned, as I have now completely lost interest in discussing the matter. Awk! The probability that I exist is 1! Awk! The probability that I exist is 1! Awk! The probability that I exist is 1! Awk!... Flap flap flap flap flap flap ....awk!
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16th June 2012, 09:58 AM	#85
Irony Muse Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 872	That's a very convincing parrot impersonation Toontown. Perhaps too convincing. Since it's been established in this topic that surface appearance is the same as deeper meaning, and that making things up makes them true, perhaps Toontown really is a parrot.
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16th June 2012, 04:19 PM	#86
Toontown Illuminator Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 3,555	Originally Posted by Irony That's a very convincing parrot impersonation Toontown. Perhaps too convincing. Since it's been established in this topic that surface appearance is the same as deeper meaning, and that making things up makes them true, perhaps Toontown really is a parrot. I am quite sure adequate intellectual resources are available here to beat about the bush of deeper meaning without my participation. I've seen people in philosophy forums beat about that bush for months on end. Then I"ve looked in months later to find the same bush being beaten about, much as it was being beaten about in earlier epochs. As for making things up to make them true - no need to bother with that. Just stick with the standard tautologies. Can't go wrong there.
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16th June 2012, 04:37 PM	#87
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15th June 2012, 05:52 PM	#83
kerikiwi Philosopher Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bay of Islands NZ Posts: 5,843	Originally Posted by Toontown The great Goon Show is, not surprisingly, dead wrong. The "Eccles" entity didn't have to be somewhere. The Eccles entity didn't have to be anywhere at all. Ever. The Eccles entity eventually emerged against near-infinite odds against ever being anywhere, during the universal quantum crap-shoot that occurred shortly after the big bang. But once Eccles emerged, he did, in fact, have to be somewhere.

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bruto Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: way way north of Diddy Wah Diddy Posts: 11,181	Originally Posted by Toontown I am quite sure adequate intellectual resources are available here to beat about the bush of deeper meaning without my participation. I've seen people in philosophy forums beat about that bush for months on end. Then I"ve looked in months later to find the same bush being beaten about, much as it was being beaten about in earlier epochs. As for making things up to make them true - no need to bother with that. Just stick with the standard tautologies. Can't go wrong there. In most of the philosophy I studied the bush turned out to be the subject.
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17th June 2012, 12:49 AM	#90
dlorde Illuminator Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,646	Originally Posted by Toontown ... I have now completely lost interest in discussing the matter.
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17th June 2012, 12:26 PM	#91
Toontown Illuminator Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 3,555	Originally Posted by dlorde You feel sarcastic about getting what you want? Other than to comment briefly on the strangeness of feeling sarcastic about getting what you want, I will decline to dwell on the psychology behind that response. Like you, I am finding myself increasingly disinterested in any aspect of your unremarkable existence.
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17th June 2012, 12:54 PM	#92
Toontown Illuminator Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 3,555	Originally Posted by bruto In most of the philosophy I studied the bush turned out to be the subject. In most of the philosophical discussions I"ve observed, the participants demonstrated little more than a stubborn determination to avoid actually getting at the bush - a determination which has succeeded in preventing any of these matters from being settled over the course of millenia.
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18th June 2012, 10:33 AM	#93
Twiler Master Poster Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2,494	Originally Posted by Toontown In most of the philosophical discussions I"ve observed, the participants demonstrated little more than a stubborn determination to avoid actually getting at the bush - a determination which has succeeded in preventing any of these matters from being settled over the course of millenia. Huh?
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18th June 2012, 11:19 AM	#94
Belz... Fiend God Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: In the details... Posts: 28,446	Originally Posted by reverebison what are the odds: 1. that you were born a highly evolved human being after 4.5 billion years of life on this earth. Billions of consciousness born and die every day on this earth and after 4 billion years of that, you were born. 2. You are here on this planet called Earth, that of all the dead planets in our universe, you happened by chance to come to be born on the only life planet arround for light years, maybe forever. 3. that you were born at all in a universe created once by a big bang, a universe some experts say eventually dies and dies forever. What are the odds that you were so lucky? 1. Thanks for asking.
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18th June 2012, 11:21 AM	#95
Belz... Fiend God Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: In the details... Posts: 28,446	Originally Posted by reverebison The universe cannot exist without consciousness. Patently false. Finish high school.
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18th June 2012, 11:25 AM	#96
CosmicDP Thinker Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Holiday Inn Express Posts: 165	Originally Posted by Toontown And I am sure everyone needs to be constantly reminded that they exist, 1=1, yada yada yada, and so on. But that's not the question. That's the brute fact that gives rise to the question. But no longer the question as far as I'm concerned, as I have now completely lost interest in discussing the matter. Awk! The probability that I exist is 1! Awk! The probability that I exist is 1! Awk! The probability that I exist is 1! Awk!... Flap flap flap flap flap flap ....awk! Originally Posted by Toontown In most of the philosophical discussions I"ve observed, the participants demonstrated little more than a stubborn determination to avoid actually getting at the bush - a determination which has succeeded in preventing any of these matters from being settled over the course of millenia. I know how you feel, the cognitive dissonance can be strong around here. You should try engaging some of these people in a scholarly discussion concerning bottsrgeddon.

19th June 2012, 01:29 AM	#97
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19th June 2012, 02:03 AM	#100
Evolved Wookie A rigidly defined area of doubt and uncertainty Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Two feet to the left, in accordance with the theory of indeterminacy Posts: 566	Originally Posted by Lowpro the wrap tags are[yt] and ['/yt] (sans the apostrophe) You take the ending of your video, which is "zw7AYJikDJE" and paste it between the wrap tags and voila! Thanks!
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19th June 2012, 05:52 AM	#101
Toontown Illuminator Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 3,555	Originally Posted by CosmicDP I know how you feel, the cognitive dissonance can be strong around here. You should try engaging some of these people in a scholarly discussion concerning bottsrgeddon. What part of "I've completely lost interest in discussing the matter" was difficult for you to accept? Here. Badger Dawkins for a while. You can repost his video with your Shakehead under it. That will show us. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGGmu...layer_embedded
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19th June 2012, 10:23 AM	#102
CosmicDP Thinker Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Holiday Inn Express Posts: 165	Originally Posted by Toontown What part of "I've completely lost interest in discussing the matter" was difficult for you to accept? Here. Badger Dawkins for a while. You can repost his video with your Shakehead under it. That will show us. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGGmu...layer_embedded At first I was going to make some sarcastic comment about your reading comprehension because you appear to have understood my post to mean something diametrically opposed to my intent. Then I went back and reread my post and realized in an electronic format where tone cannot be heard and therefore intent not discerned it may have been ambiguous. Just to clarify, I was not being sarcastic towards you, I was sympathizing with you.

19th June 2012, 12:03 PM	#103
tsig a carbon based life-form Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 26,688	Originally Posted by Toontown What part of "I've completely lost interest in discussing the matter" was difficult for you to accept? Here. Badger Dawkins for a while. You can repost his video with your Shakehead under it. That will show us. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGGmu...layer_embedded You're rather vocal in a thread you've lost interest in. Lack of interest is usually shown by not posting.

19th June 2012, 09:01 PM	#104
CosmicDP Thinker Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Holiday Inn Express Posts: 165	Originally Posted by tsig You're rather vocal in a thread you've lost interest in. Lack of interest is usually shown by not posting. He's really defying the odds.

19th June 2012, 09:28 PM	#105
Toontown Illuminator Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 3,555	Originally Posted by CosmicDP At first I was going to make some sarcastic comment about your reading comprehension because you appear to have understood my post to mean something diametrically opposed to my intent. Then I went back and reread my post and realized in an electronic format where tone cannot be heard and therefore intent not discerned it may have been ambiguous. Just to clarify, I was not being sarcastic towards you, I was sympathizing with you. Sorry I misunderstood. But I don't need any sympathy.
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19th June 2012, 09:32 PM	#106
Toontown Illuminator Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 3,555	Originally Posted by tsig You're rather vocal in a thread you've lost interest in. Lack of interest is usually shown by not posting. So what is it that you are so interested in? I suppose it must be very important to you to explain to me how disinterest is usually shown. However, I can assure you that I have zero interest in your opinion about how disinterest should be shown.
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20th June 2012, 01:29 AM	#107
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20th June 2012, 03:08 AM	#108
Halfcentaur Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 5,937	Originally Posted by Toontown What part of "I've completely lost interest in discussing the matter" was difficult for you to accept? Here. Badger Dawkins for a while. You can repost his video with your Shakehead under it. That will show us. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGGmu...layer_embedded Hey, I already posted this up there ^
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