Key stroke question

SusanB-M1 · 2nd February 2013, 04:19 AM

New document; two columns, narrow to left, wide to right; couldn't work out how to go from writing name in first column then jumping to next column to add notes. Phoned Dolphin but I couldn't make their key stroke suggestions work.
Does anyone know, please? I tried F1 but for M/S Word 2010, that appears to consist of internet links, instead of a nice, clear index! Any help much appreciated.

paiute · 2nd February 2013, 06:07 AM

Originally Posted by SusanB-M1

New document; two columns, narrow to left, wide to right; couldn't work out how to go from writing name in first column then jumping to next column to add notes. Phoned Dolphin but I couldn't make their key stroke suggestions work.
Does anyone know, please? I tried F1 but for M/S Word 2010, that appears to consist of internet links, instead of a nice, clear index! Any help much appreciated.

Tab?

SusanB-M1 · 2nd February 2013, 06:13 AM

Thank you! But no I'm afraid not. If I tab, the voice just says 3.5 cm' and moves the name, whether the cursor is at the beginning or the end of the name.

Floyt · 2nd February 2013, 08:00 AM

Susan, for me (Word 2007) it's Ctrl+Shift+Enter. Bit of a handful, but I don't use columns often...

SusanB-M1 · 2nd February 2013, 09:18 AM

Floyt

Thank you ... ... oh dear, that doesn't work either!

paulhutch · 2nd February 2013, 10:10 AM

I don't think there is a keyboard command to do what you want. Word document columns (and other word processing and desktop publishing multiple column docs) are designed to have the text flow smoothly from the bottom of one column to the top of the next column with no row alignment, like a newspaper or magazine article layout.

To have columns aligned with rows I suggest you use a two column table. Size the table to fill the page and have no visible borders so that it looks like a standard two column text layout when printed. This will ensure that the rows stay aligned and you can use tab and shift+tab to move between the columns.

SusanB-M1 · 2nd February 2013, 11:06 AM

paulhutch

Many thanks for your help - much appreciated. I will do as you suggest and make a table.

SUSpilot · 2nd February 2013, 11:19 AM

This is why I liked WordPerfect when it was the gold standard. It actually did what you wanted, including aligned columns (where the rows moved together, no less!), not what the MS programmers think you want.

OnlyTellsTruths · 2nd February 2013, 06:18 PM

This was discussed quite a bit in this thread:

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=237941

The discussion is interspersed with another discussion, but it's there.

I believe it starts around post #15 or so, and is discussed much more later in the thread.

rjh01 · 2nd February 2013, 11:15 PM

If you are using two columns in a 2010 Word document (page layout tab, columns) then once you have filled up one column it goes on to the second.

An alternative is to use a table. Then you go from one column to the next via a tab key or the arrow keys.

SusanB-M1 · 3rd February 2013, 06:18 AM

Many thanks for the replies. I will have to do it as a table I think.
Also I will go and have a look at the link. thank you.

SusanB-M1 · 3rd February 2013, 08:39 AM

OnlyTellsTruths

thank you - I've skimmed through the thread including #47.
A friend has written to ask if I'd tried 'column breaks' which apparently enable you to jump columns. I'll have a go at that tomorrow.

I eventually printed it at font size 48 in bold, so it's come out on three pages, but I can peer at the numbers without my magnifier, and in fact I more or less know most of them. But I was determined to do it!!

2nd February 2013, 04:19 AM	#1
SusanB-M1 Incurable Optimist Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Almost in the New Forest, Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,867	Key stroke question New document; two columns, narrow to left, wide to right; couldn't work out how to go from writing name in first column then jumping to next column to add notes. Phoned Dolphin but I couldn't make their key stroke suggestions work. Does anyone know, please? I tried F1 but for M/S Word 2010, that appears to consist of internet links, instead of a nice, clear index! Any help much appreciated.
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2nd February 2013, 06:07 AM	#2
paiute Graduate Poster Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Smack in the middle of a de Broglie wavelength. Posts: 1,141	Originally Posted by SusanB-M1 New document; two columns, narrow to left, wide to right; couldn't work out how to go from writing name in first column then jumping to next column to add notes. Phoned Dolphin but I couldn't make their key stroke suggestions work. Does anyone know, please? I tried F1 but for M/S Word 2010, that appears to consist of internet links, instead of a nice, clear index! Any help much appreciated. Tab?
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2nd February 2013, 06:13 AM	#3
SusanB-M1 Incurable Optimist Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Almost in the New Forest, Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,867	Thank you! But no I'm afraid not. If I tab, the voice just says 3.5 cm' and moves the name, whether the cursor is at the beginning or the end of the name.
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2nd February 2013, 09:18 AM	#5
SusanB-M1 Incurable Optimist Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Almost in the New Forest, Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,867	Floyt Thank you ... ... oh dear, that doesn't work either!
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2nd February 2013, 11:06 AM	#7
SusanB-M1 Incurable Optimist Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Almost in the New Forest, Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,867	paulhutch Many thanks for your help - much appreciated. I will do as you suggest and make a table.
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2nd February 2013, 08:00 AM	#4
Floyt Chordate Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cape Town! Not mugged yet. Looking for chameleons. Posts: 1,428	Susan, for me (Word 2007) it's Ctrl+Shift+Enter. Bit of a handful, but I don't use columns often...
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2nd February 2013, 10:10 AM	#6
paulhutch Scholar Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Blackstone River Valley, MA Posts: 104	I don't think there is a keyboard command to do what you want. Word document columns (and other word processing and desktop publishing multiple column docs) are designed to have the text flow smoothly from the bottom of one column to the top of the next column with no row alignment, like a newspaper or magazine article layout. To have columns aligned with rows I suggest you use a two column table. Size the table to fill the page and have no visible borders so that it looks like a standard two column text layout when printed. This will ensure that the rows stay aligned and you can use tab and shift+tab to move between the columns.

2nd February 2013, 11:19 AM	#8
SUSpilot Muse Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 685	Key stroke question This is why I liked WordPerfect when it was the gold standard. It actually did what you wanted, including aligned columns (where the rows moved together, no less!), not what the MS programmers think you want.
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2nd February 2013, 06:18 PM	#9
OnlyTellsTruths Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 5,797	This was discussed quite a bit in this thread: http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=237941 The discussion is interspersed with another discussion, but it's there. I believe it starts around post #15 or so, and is discussed much more later in the thread.
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2nd February 2013, 11:15 PM	#10
rjh01 Gentleman of leisure Tagger Join Date: May 2005 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 17,190	If you are using two columns in a 2010 Word document (page layout tab, columns) then once you have filled up one column it goes on to the second. An alternative is to use a table. Then you go from one column to the next via a tab key or the arrow keys.
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3rd February 2013, 06:18 AM	#11
SusanB-M1 Incurable Optimist Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Almost in the New Forest, Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,867	Many thanks for the replies. I will have to do it as a table I think. Also I will go and have a look at the link. thank you.
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3rd February 2013, 08:39 AM	#12
SusanB-M1 Incurable Optimist Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Almost in the New Forest, Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,867	OnlyTellsTruths thank you - I've skimmed through the thread including #47. A friend has written to ask if I'd tried 'column breaks' which apparently enable you to jump columns. I'll have a go at that tomorrow. I eventually printed it at font size 48 in bold, so it's come out on three pages, but I can peer at the numbers without my magnifier, and in fact I more or less know most of them. But I was determined to do it!!
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