Why women will vote for Romney according to National Review's Kevin D. Williamson

Puppycow · 23rd August 2012, 02:17 AM

Wow:

Quote:

It is a curious scientific fact (explained in evolutionary biology by the Trivers-Willard hypothesis — Willard, notice) that high-status animals tend to have more male offspring than female offspring, which holds true across many species, from red deer to mink to Homo sap. The offspring of rich families are statistically biased in favor of sons — the children of the general population are 51 percent male and 49 percent female, but the children of the Forbes billionaire list are 60 percent male. Have a gander at that Romney family picture: five sons, zero daughters. Romney has 18 grandchildren, and they exceed a 2:1 ratio of grandsons to granddaughters (13:5). When they go to church at their summer-vacation home, the Romney clan makes up a third of the congregation. He is basically a tribal chieftain.

Professor Obama? Two daughters. May as well give the guy a cardigan. And fallopian tubes.

From an evolutionary point of view, Mitt Romney should get 100 percent of the female vote. All of it. He should get Michelle Obama’s vote. You can insert your own Mormon polygamy joke here, but the ladies do tend to flock to successful executives and entrepreneurs. Saleh al-Rajhi, billionaire banker, left behind 61 children when he cashed out last year. We don’t do harems here, of course, but Romney is exactly the kind of guy who in another time and place would have the option of maintaining one. He’s a boss. Given that we are no longer roaming the veldt for the most part, money is a reasonable stand-in for social status. Romney’s net worth is more than that of the last eight U.S. presidents combined. He set up a trust for his grandkids and kicked in about seven times Barack Obama’s net worth, which at $11.8 million is not inconsiderable but probably less than Romney’s tax bill in a good year. If he hadn’t given away so much money to his church, charities, and grandkids, Mitt Romney would have more money than Jay-Z.

It is time for Mitt Romney to get in touch with his inner rich guy.

Then he goes on to suggest that Romney should start living large and acting like he's rich instead of pretending to be a normal guy with a normal lifestyle.
He even mentions Trump as a role model!

amensae · 23rd August 2012, 02:59 AM

The article = Tongue in cheek
The accompanying comments = Poe's Law

Tatyana · 23rd August 2012, 03:01 AM

If we really are going to go with the gonad angle, then my biological imperative would have to vote for Obama.

shemp · 23rd August 2012, 08:02 AM

Originally Posted by amensae

The article = Tongue in cheek
The accompanying comments = Poe's Law

When was National Review bought up by The Onion? Seriously, I read the whole thing and didn't see the humor. I think this clod means every word of it.

casebro · 23rd August 2012, 12:07 PM

Curious about the scientific facts in the opening of the OP. I looked up Saleh al-Rajhi on wiki. 61 children, 39 daughters and only 22 sons. They need a better example.

Otherwise, is it true that the more successful men have more male offspring? Whats the science? Probably "More successful men have mates with the different chemistry that causes more male offspring." Or maybe epigenetics, but of which parent?

But re: elections, my own theory is the man with the most sex appeal wins. Look back at the last 52 years, since television. Now compare Romney with Rodney Allen Rippy.

Sabrina · 23rd August 2012, 12:29 PM

If we're going with the most sex appeal, Obama would win hands down. Romney has sort of a creepy old guy vibe about him.

BenBurch · 23rd August 2012, 12:35 PM

How can any guy in magic underwear be sexy?

grunion · 23rd August 2012, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by BenBurch

How can any guy in magic underwear be sexy?

How can he not?

Regnad Kcin · 23rd August 2012, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by casebro

...Now compare Romney with Rodney Allen Rippy.

Interesting.

BenBurch · 23rd August 2012, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by grunion

How can he not?

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting...690d2b3022.jpg

But that's not magic; that's high tech.

But of course Clarke's Law says they may be indistinguishable.

Howie Felterbush · 23rd August 2012, 01:53 PM

There is nothing at all unmanly about a cardigan.

Lisa Simpson · 23rd August 2012, 01:58 PM

I always let my ovaries decide who to vote for. Of course, I'm starting to through menopause, so they are alternating between making my political decisions and telling me that it's too ******* hot in here.

Howie Felterbush · 23rd August 2012, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by Lisa Simpson

I always let my ovaries decide who to vote for. Of course, I'm starting to through menopause, so they are alternating between making my political decisions and telling me that it's too ******* hot in here.

What if they disagree on who to vote for?

Tricky · 23rd August 2012, 02:03 PM

Republican science. You gotta love it.

casebro · 23rd August 2012, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin

Interesting.

We are talking women's votes here, correct? This election, It's cuteness vs sex appeal.

One day it looked like my two sisters might tear our newest grand-nephew in half, they each wanted to nestle the cute kid soooo bad. King Solomon flashed through my mind.

thaiboxerken · 23rd August 2012, 03:18 PM

Women should be in the kitchen, not voting.

Tsukasa Buddha · 23rd August 2012, 03:42 PM

Obama just won this election.

Regnad Kcin · 23rd August 2012, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by casebro

We are talking women's votes here, correct?

"Rodney Allen Rippy"

Puppycow · 23rd August 2012, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin

"Rodney Allen Rippy"

I see that casebro is back to calling Obama a picaninny again.

Stay classy dude!

Redtail · 23rd August 2012, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by casebro

But re: elections, my own theory is the man with the most sex appeal wins. Look back at the last 52 years, since television. Now compare Romney with Rodney Allen Rippy.

Heh.

You comparing Obama with Rippy because with your theory it terrifies you to compare him to Big Jim Slade?

http://m.youtube.com/?reload=3&rdm=m8wlv755o

casebro · 24th August 2012, 06:32 AM

I called Obama RAR because he looks like a cute child.

How did you miss that thought, especially after me subsequent post? Or do you post without reading the whole thread?

Silly Green Monkey · 24th August 2012, 07:46 AM

If you think Obama looks like a child, you haven't seen many children.

Redtail · 24th August 2012, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by casebro

I called Obama RAR because he looks like a cute child.

How did you miss that thought, especially after me subsequent post? Or do you post without reading the whole thread?

I know exactly what you were saying. I was implying you were doing so because its uncomfortable for you to think of him as a man. "Oooooh! He's so cute! " instead of "Damn! Momma bear wants a piece of that!"

I then posted a video of Big Jim Slade to further mock your theory & comments. I'll give you some time to figure out what mocking was implied by said vid, but if you need me to i can hold your hand & walk you through that also.

Polaris · 24th August 2012, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by Silly Green Monkey

If you think Obama looks like a child, you haven't seen many children.

Maybe he's a fan of Greek Orthodox frescoes.

casebro · 24th August 2012, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by Redtail

I know exactly what you were saying. I was implying you were doing so because its uncomfortable for you to think of him as a man. "Oooooh! He's so cute! " instead of "Damn! Momma bear wants a piece of that!"

I then posted a video of Big Jim Slade to further mock your theory & comments. I'll give you some time to figure out what mocking was implied by said vid, but if you need me to i can hold your hand & walk you through that also.

Sorry about not watching videos. If I wanted to watch TV I wouldn't be on the computer.

But I'll ask the next women I meet whether they think he's cute, or sexy. child, or MAN.

Ziggurat · 25th August 2012, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by BenBurch

How can any guy in magic underwear be sexy?

Originally Posted by grunion

How can he not?

There are ways.

Upchurch · 26th August 2012, 03:43 AM

Originally Posted by casebro

Sorry about not watching videos. If I wanted to watch TV I wouldn't be on the computer.

Wow. What a rare and utterly dated statement. That's like saying, "I can't take a picture of that. All I have is my phone."

angrysoba · 26th August 2012, 04:03 AM

Originally Posted by Puppycow

Wow:

Then he goes on to suggest that Romney should start living large and acting like he's rich instead of pretending to be a normal guy with a normal lifestyle.
He even mentions Trump as a role model!

Well, it would seem that he's provided us with a falsifiable hypothesis, at least. If 100 per cent of women don't vote for Romney and if some women, including Michelle Obama, vote for Romney then the thesis is falsified.

I remember that someone was recently talking about how voters always vote for the tallest candidate in a US presidential election but that didn't really account for the fact that something like 46 per cent of voters ended up voting McCain last election. Did they not realize that Obama was taller or did they vote with other criteria other than the candidates' height in mind?

zeggman · 26th August 2012, 04:14 AM

Originally Posted by casebro

Otherwise, is it true that the more successful men have more male offspring? Whats the science?

The actual rule is that if the woman enjoys the intercourse which led to pregnancy, daughters are more likely; if she merely grits her teeth and endures, sons.

Or so I've heard.

zeggman · 26th August 2012, 04:16 AM

Originally Posted by angrysoba

I remember that someone was recently talking about how voters always vote for the tallest candidate in a US presidential election but that didn't really account for the fact that something like 46 per cent of voters ended up voting McCain last election. Did they not realize that Obama was taller or did they vote with other criteria other than the candidates' height in mind?

I think that's a ridiculous hypothesis. Prior to television, how many people even had a reasonable chance of guessing which candidate was taller? It's not as though they were likely to meet either candidate, much less both of them standing side by side.

angrysoba · 26th August 2012, 04:42 AM

Originally Posted by zeggman

I think that's a ridiculous hypothesis. Prior to television, how many people even had a reasonable chance of guessing which candidate was taller? It's not as though they were likely to meet either candidate, much less both of them standing side by side.

Well, I think so too. But it is one that has been surprisingly popular.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heights..._United_States

Puppycow · 26th August 2012, 05:56 AM

Originally Posted by zeggman

I think that's a ridiculous hypothesis. Prior to television, how many people even had a reasonable chance of guessing which candidate was taller? It's not as though they were likely to meet either candidate, much less both of them standing side by side.

Even before television candidates toured the country and gave campaign speeches. People would gather in the town square, or wherever it was to see the candidate. The newspapers would carry photos, or drawings and physical descriptions of the major candidates.

Puppycow · 26th August 2012, 05:57 AM

Originally Posted by Redtail

I know exactly what you were saying. I was implying you were doing so because its uncomfortable for you to think of him as a man. "Oooooh! He's so cute! " instead of "Damn! Momma bear wants a piece of that!"

I then posted a video of Big Jim Slade to further mock your theory & comments. I'll give you some time to figure out what mocking was implied by said vid, but if you need me to i can hold your hand & walk you through that also.

Link doesn't work for me.

zeggman · 26th August 2012, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by Puppycow

Even before television candidates toured the country and gave campaign speeches. People would gather in the town square, or wherever it was to see the candidate. The newspapers would carry photos, or drawings and physical descriptions of the major candidates.

Did the newspapers list their height?

I happen to have seen Carter, Reagan, and Nixon as candidates. I couldn't begin to guess which of them is taller. I haven't seen any other Presidential candidates in person.

I'm sure there are people who do somehow base their vote on height, just as some choose one candidate over another just because they like the sound of his name. I can't believe, though, that there are enough of them to consistently tip elections.

Ziggurat · 26th August 2012, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by angrysoba

I remember that someone was recently talking about how voters always vote for the tallest candidate in a US presidential election but that didn't really account for the fact that something like 46 per cent of voters ended up voting McCain last election. Did they not realize that Obama was taller or did they vote with other criteria other than the candidates' height in mind?

John Kerry was taller than G.W. Bush. I don't doubt that being taller helps, but it's clearly not a decisive factor.

Ziggurat · 26th August 2012, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by zeggman

I happen to have seen Carter, Reagan, and Nixon as candidates. I couldn't begin to guess which of them is taller.

Why guess?
Every American president by height

dc1971 · 26th August 2012, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by Ziggurat

There are ways.

I am so sorry that I clicked on that link.

casebro · 27th August 2012, 05:30 AM

Originally Posted by Upchurch

Wow. What a rare and utterly dated statement. That's like saying, "I can't take a picture of that. All I have is my phone."

I don't own a cell phone either.

23rd August 2012, 02:17 AM	#1
Puppycow Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Japan Posts: 15,789	Why women will vote for Romney according to National Review's Kevin D. Williamson Wow: Quote: It is a curious scientific fact (explained in evolutionary biology by the Trivers-Willard hypothesis — Willard, notice) that high-status animals tend to have more male offspring than female offspring, which holds true across many species, from red deer to mink to Homo sap. The offspring of rich families are statistically biased in favor of sons — the children of the general population are 51 percent male and 49 percent female, but the children of the Forbes billionaire list are 60 percent male. Have a gander at that Romney family picture: five sons, zero daughters. Romney has 18 grandchildren, and they exceed a 2:1 ratio of grandsons to granddaughters (13:5). When they go to church at their summer-vacation home, the Romney clan makes up a third of the congregation. He is basically a tribal chieftain. Professor Obama? Two daughters. May as well give the guy a cardigan. And fallopian tubes. From an evolutionary point of view, Mitt Romney should get 100 percent of the female vote. All of it. He should get Michelle Obama’s vote. You can insert your own Mormon polygamy joke here, but the ladies do tend to flock to successful executives and entrepreneurs. Saleh al-Rajhi, billionaire banker, left behind 61 children when he cashed out last year. We don’t do harems here, of course, but Romney is exactly the kind of guy who in another time and place would have the option of maintaining one. He’s a boss. Given that we are no longer roaming the veldt for the most part, money is a reasonable stand-in for social status. Romney’s net worth is more than that of the last eight U.S. presidents combined. He set up a trust for his grandkids and kicked in about seven times Barack Obama’s net worth, which at $11.8 million is not inconsiderable but probably less than Romney’s tax bill in a good year. If he hadn’t given away so much money to his church, charities, and grandkids, Mitt Romney would have more money than Jay-Z. It is time for Mitt Romney to get in touch with his inner rich guy. Then he goes on to suggest that Romney should start living large and acting like he's rich instead of pretending to be a normal guy with a normal lifestyle. He even mentions Trump as a role model!
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23rd August 2012, 02:59 AM	#2
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casebro Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 6,800	Curious about the scientific facts in the opening of the OP. I looked up Saleh al-Rajhi on wiki. 61 children, 39 daughters and only 22 sons. They need a better example. Otherwise, is it true that the more successful men have more male offspring? Whats the science? Probably "More successful men have mates with the different chemistry that causes more male offspring." Or maybe epigenetics, but of which parent? But re: elections, my own theory is the man with the most sex appeal wins. Look back at the last 52 years, since television. Now compare Romney with Rodney Allen Rippy.
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Howie Felterbush Bow Tie Daddy Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: In the twilight, singing all the old lullabies Posts: 5,333	Originally Posted by Lisa Simpson I always let my ovaries decide who to vote for. Of course, I'm starting to through menopause, so they are alternating between making my political decisions and telling me that it's too ******* hot in here. What if they disagree on who to vote for?
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casebro Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 6,800	Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin Interesting. We are talking women's votes here, correct? This election, It's cuteness vs sex appeal. One day it looked like my two sisters might tear our newest grand-nephew in half, they each wanted to nestle the cute kid soooo bad. King Solomon flashed through my mind.
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Redtail Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 9,304	Originally Posted by casebro But re: elections, my own theory is the man with the most sex appeal wins. Look back at the last 52 years, since television. Now compare Romney with Rodney Allen Rippy. Heh. You comparing Obama with Rippy because with your theory it terrifies you to compare him to Big Jim Slade? http://m.youtube.com/?reload=3&rdm=m8wlv755o
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24th August 2012, 06:32 AM	#21
casebro Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 6,800	I called Obama RAR because he looks like a cute child. How did you miss that thought, especially after me subsequent post? Or do you post without reading the whole thread?
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24th August 2012, 08:54 AM	#23
Redtail Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 9,304	Originally Posted by casebro I called Obama RAR because he looks like a cute child. How did you miss that thought, especially after me subsequent post? Or do you post without reading the whole thread? I know exactly what you were saying. I was implying you were doing so because its uncomfortable for you to think of him as a man. "Oooooh! He's so cute! " instead of "Damn! Momma bear wants a piece of that!" I then posted a video of Big Jim Slade to further mock your theory & comments. I'll give you some time to figure out what mocking was implied by said vid, but if you need me to i can hold your hand & walk you through that also.
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24th August 2012, 09:11 AM	#24
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casebro Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 6,800	Originally Posted by Redtail I know exactly what you were saying. I was implying you were doing so because its uncomfortable for you to think of him as a man. "Oooooh! He's so cute! " instead of "Damn! Momma bear wants a piece of that!" I then posted a video of Big Jim Slade to further mock your theory & comments. I'll give you some time to figure out what mocking was implied by said vid, but if you need me to i can hold your hand & walk you through that also. Sorry about not watching videos. If I wanted to watch TV I wouldn't be on the computer. But I'll ask the next women I meet whether they think he's cute, or sexy. child, or MAN.
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26th August 2012, 03:43 AM	#27
Upchurch Papa Funkosophy Join Date: May 2002 Location: Funky Town (STL, MO) Posts: 23,428	Originally Posted by casebro Sorry about not watching videos. If I wanted to watch TV I wouldn't be on the computer. Wow. What a rare and utterly dated statement. That's like saying, "I can't take a picture of that. All I have is my phone."

26th August 2012, 04:03 AM	#28
angrysoba Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Osaka, Japan Posts: 8,604	Originally Posted by Puppycow Wow: Then he goes on to suggest that Romney should start living large and acting like he's rich instead of pretending to be a normal guy with a normal lifestyle. He even mentions Trump as a role model! Well, it would seem that he's provided us with a falsifiable hypothesis, at least. If 100 per cent of women don't vote for Romney and if some women, including Michelle Obama, vote for Romney then the thesis is falsified. I remember that someone was recently talking about how voters always vote for the tallest candidate in a US presidential election but that didn't really account for the fact that something like 46 per cent of voters ended up voting McCain last election. Did they not realize that Obama was taller or did they vote with other criteria other than the candidates' height in mind?

26th August 2012, 04:14 AM	#29
zeggman Graduate Poster Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,775	Originally Posted by casebro Otherwise, is it true that the more successful men have more male offspring? Whats the science? The actual rule is that if the woman enjoys the intercourse which led to pregnancy, daughters are more likely; if she merely grits her teeth and endures, sons. Or so I've heard.
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26th August 2012, 04:16 AM	#30
zeggman Graduate Poster Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,775	Originally Posted by angrysoba I remember that someone was recently talking about how voters always vote for the tallest candidate in a US presidential election but that didn't really account for the fact that something like 46 per cent of voters ended up voting McCain last election. Did they not realize that Obama was taller or did they vote with other criteria other than the candidates' height in mind? I think that's a ridiculous hypothesis. Prior to television, how many people even had a reasonable chance of guessing which candidate was taller? It's not as though they were likely to meet either candidate, much less both of them standing side by side.
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26th August 2012, 04:42 AM	#31
angrysoba Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Osaka, Japan Posts: 8,604	Originally Posted by zeggman I think that's a ridiculous hypothesis. Prior to television, how many people even had a reasonable chance of guessing which candidate was taller? It's not as though they were likely to meet either candidate, much less both of them standing side by side. Well, I think so too. But it is one that has been surprisingly popular. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heights..._United_States

26th August 2012, 05:56 AM	#32
Puppycow Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Japan Posts: 15,789	Originally Posted by zeggman I think that's a ridiculous hypothesis. Prior to television, how many people even had a reasonable chance of guessing which candidate was taller? It's not as though they were likely to meet either candidate, much less both of them standing side by side. Even before television candidates toured the country and gave campaign speeches. People would gather in the town square, or wherever it was to see the candidate. The newspapers would carry photos, or drawings and physical descriptions of the major candidates.
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26th August 2012, 05:57 AM	#33
Puppycow Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Japan Posts: 15,789	Originally Posted by Redtail I know exactly what you were saying. I was implying you were doing so because its uncomfortable for you to think of him as a man. "Oooooh! He's so cute! " instead of "Damn! Momma bear wants a piece of that!" I then posted a video of Big Jim Slade to further mock your theory & comments. I'll give you some time to figure out what mocking was implied by said vid, but if you need me to i can hold your hand & walk you through that also. Link doesn't work for me.
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26th August 2012, 10:30 AM	#34
zeggman Graduate Poster Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,775	Originally Posted by Puppycow Even before television candidates toured the country and gave campaign speeches. People would gather in the town square, or wherever it was to see the candidate. The newspapers would carry photos, or drawings and physical descriptions of the major candidates. Did the newspapers list their height? I happen to have seen Carter, Reagan, and Nixon as candidates. I couldn't begin to guess which of them is taller. I haven't seen any other Presidential candidates in person. I'm sure there are people who do somehow base their vote on height, just as some choose one candidate over another just because they like the sound of his name. I can't believe, though, that there are enough of them to consistently tip elections.
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26th August 2012, 10:36 AM	#35
Ziggurat Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 26,222	Originally Posted by angrysoba I remember that someone was recently talking about how voters always vote for the tallest candidate in a US presidential election but that didn't really account for the fact that something like 46 per cent of voters ended up voting McCain last election. Did they not realize that Obama was taller or did they vote with other criteria other than the candidates' height in mind? John Kerry was taller than G.W. Bush. I don't doubt that being taller helps, but it's clearly not a decisive factor.
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