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Old 1st January 2013, 02:10 PM   #481
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I know of this person, we have a mutual acquaintance, and I had heard about this about a year ago. I was wondering when this would pop up again, but had no idea a clothing line was in the works.......Sasquatch Wildwear, hummm, people make big bucks on QVC and HSN for stuff like this. Melba could become a brand just like the Kardashians.

http://www.thecryptocrew.com/2012/12...etchum_31.html
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Old 1st January 2013, 09:59 PM   #482
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Yet another perfect example of what Bigfoot really is. I'm not sure how anyone could still think it's about an animal.
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Old 2nd January 2013, 02:35 AM   #483
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Originally Posted by HarryHenderson View Post
Yet another perfect example of what Bigfoot really is. I'm not sure how anyone could still think it's about an animal.
Because some are heavily (emotionally) invested in the real animal claim. For some, it's all about winning the argument, or about not losing. (example: mulder) The facts will be cherry picked, and special pleading along with confirmation bias. You cannot convince some of these people with facts, or otherwise. They want to believe so badly, they will bypass critical thinking, and even point the finger at those who do use it, claiming "theyre not open to the facts" or that they "aren't looking at the evidence". Many of them feel that the current "evidence" for bigfoot is substantial and should be enough to further fund and protect these alleged creatures.

It is absolutely a fanatical situation. Bigfoot MUST exist at all costs!! Otherwise, the fantasy is gone.


The above describes the suckers. The pros are in it for the cash. They do not believe.
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Old 2nd January 2013, 11:13 AM   #484
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Originally Posted by River View Post
For some, it's all about winning the argument, or about not losing.
Is there a psychological term for that personality trait?

You see it in a lot of top (and not so top) 'footers... the unwillingness to concede any point. I think it keeps the Bigfoot machine turning. The media puts out a lot of pro-Bigfoot content. A curious newbie is probably more likely to get their information from BFRO than from JREF. Some of those folks will be unwilling to accept that they've been duped, and there's your next generation of 'footers.
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I'm so tempted to replace 'footer' with 'republican' all through your post but I know that's against the rules!
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Narcissism comes to mind ??
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Old 2nd January 2013, 04:45 PM   #488
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What????
Narcissistic Personality Disorder would seem to fit a person that argues or believes beyond all logic and factual evidence ? Just a thought.. it is not about the Foot it is all about Them so they cannot be wrong ? It would destroy or alter their system of "values" and self esteem. Or maybe those folks are just stubborn ignorant people ? What do I know ?

Just a thought..

It is like being a Cleveland Browns Fan ?... but not quite...

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Originally Posted by River View Post
Because some are heavily (emotionally) invested in the real animal claim. For some, it's all about winning the argument, or about not losing. (example: mulder) The facts will be cherry picked, and special pleading along with confirmation bias. You cannot convince some of these people with facts, or otherwise. They want to believe so badly, they will bypass critical thinking, and even point the finger at those who do use it, claiming "theyre not open to the facts" or that they "aren't looking at the evidence". Many of them feel that the current "evidence" for bigfoot is substantial and should be enough to further fund and protect these alleged creatures.

It is absolutely a fanatical situation. Bigfoot MUST exist at all costs!! Otherwise, the fantasy is gone.


The above describes the suckers. The pros are in it for the cash. They do not believe.
River! Your breaking the rule and letting the footers know what's going on again. Knock it off ~ lol
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Old 2nd January 2013, 05:54 PM   #490
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Old 19th January 2013, 06:47 PM   #491
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Destination resort.
I think I'd prefer to be defrauded in a nicer place, a bit closer to home. Vegas, maybe.
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Destination resort.
I think I'd prefer to be defrauded in a nicer place, a bit closer to home. Vegas, maybe.
Didn't know anyone was seeing the Yeti nowadays; that is so 1950s.

Methinks the Yeti is piggybacking on the broad shoulders (and popularity) of Bigfoot. "He's not heavy, he's my brother."

Siberia? Maybe we should send Moneymaker (Finding Yeti) a one-way ticket.
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"He's not heavy, he's my brother."

Siberia? Maybe we should send Moneymaker (Finding Yeti) a one-way ticket.
That has a certain panache and click to it. "Finding Yeti".. hmm..

Episode Two:

Renee: "Are we there Yeti ?" ( The camera scans to her left boot in a green haze of fake night goggle lights and then up to Bobo) who retorts...

Bobo: " No, not yet. There is a Yak herder just over this hill .. wait.. did you hear that ?" ( A brief green camera scan of his concerned and ponderous facial expression) (shake the camera a few times for fun)

Renee: " Hear what .. umm... " ( Green light angle hits snow and her eyes which appear red and wide).

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Old 21st January 2013, 06:11 PM   #494
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Moneymaker on Finding Yeti : Yakity yak.

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Moneymaker on Finding Yeti : Yakity yak.
I think I just heard something !?..

next commercial break
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Rule No. 1

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We are a family here right ? maybe dysfunctional but still here.

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Old 23rd January 2013, 08:12 AM   #497
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Destination resort.
I think I'd prefer to be defrauded in a nicer place, a bit closer to home. Vegas, maybe.
From linked article.
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However concrete evidence is, as of yet, illusive.
I think they meant "elusive" but it's more correct the way they wrote it.
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Old 25th April 2013, 06:51 AM   #498
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This is the funniest Bigfoot documentary ever. Check out the narrator, he sounds like the guy from Leigh Hart's Mysterious Planet.
The Government Cover-Up of Bigfoot Documentary
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4OXTv9cFJY

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There's no money in Bigfoot though.
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Old 25th April 2013, 07:42 AM   #499
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Wow, I don't know how many leaps of logic ocurred in this documentry but it's a bunch. Why does the government want to cover up all evidence of bigfoot anyway? You would think that sequestration would cancel the funding at the Dept. of Bigfoot Denial and some disgruntled employee would reveal everything.
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This coincides nicely with a thread over at Best Bigfoot Friends Forever concerning an infantryman that witnessed the killing of a footie-foo-foo and details the subsequent cover-up by the Army and BLM, etc. No real evidence though.
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Wow, I don't know how many leaps of logic ocurred in this documentry but it's a bunch. Why does the government want to cover up all evidence of bigfoot anyway? You would think that sequestration would cancel the funding at the Dept. of Bigfoot Denial and some disgruntled employee would reveal everything.

Because, the bigfooters need the support in their fantasy. It's the MIB keeping bigfoot from being discovered!! Of course...
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A great article about finding 'Awe' without resorting to needing a Bigfoot to provide it.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/...e-hell-bigfoot

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Neither I nor anyone should ever deflect you from your search for awe. But neither should anyone, whether merchant or hoaxster, send you on a contrived journey to the supernatural to find it. There's enough awe for anyone who wants it, and it lives within reach in the natural world around us.
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"Awe has become associated with the supernatural. When did that happen?"

The awe-factor in nature was always assumed by uneducated people to be the product of the supernatural.
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The surfeit of BS that sloshes its way through bigfootery is never ending. It will only get worse as time goes on. More hoops will have to be jumped through in order to maintain bleevership.
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But that's just it. Awe has become associated with the supernatural. When did that happen? Why does the real world no longer excite us? Is there nothing about it that is wonderful or "awesome?"
The author writes as if he knows that there was a time in the past when all humans got all of their excitement from the natural world in its purest realistic form. Back then imaginary monsters were worthless thoughts and nobody wasted time on them. What year was that?

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There's an area of study known as cryptozoology - the search for previously unknown life forms. It's a perfectly legitimate area of study, or it should be.
No it isn't legitimate because it's no different than ordinary zoology. Cryptozoology is essentially literature and some pictures. You study cryptid creatures in the same way you would study 18th Century vampires and zombies. You read about them.

CZ is a layperson pastime pursuit that is comprised of 99% reading. People like it because it compels mental imagery of objects scenes and scenarios. A kind of directed lucid dream. People like that sort of thing. It happens when they read novels. A world blossoms in the mind and it was created by (reading) words. We can do this at the same time that we are awed by the natural world in pure reality. A field biologist can spend a day documenting and studying local fauna and then retire to their cot in the evening to read Green's book on Bigfoot. He has not cheated himself on getting awe from the real natural world... he gets that every day. But the "Bigfoot Awe" he gets (by imagining that they exist) is in addition to all of that. The naturalist who believes in Bigfoot has Awe Awe. A simple naturalist only has Awe. Besides, you can't dictate to people what they should and should not do to get their Awe. Well, you can't expect them to always do what you tell them.
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WP, is your quote function not working properly? It is a bit disconcerting to have anonymous quotes.
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A great article about finding 'Awe' without resorting to needing a Bigfoot to provide it.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/...e-hell-bigfoot
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The issue of awe vs. understanding is the topic of Richard Dawkins' too-obscure and much underrated book, Unweaving the Rainbow. From the introduction:

Originally Posted by Richard Dawkins
My title is from Keats, who believed that Newton had destroyed all the poetry of the rainbow by reducing it to prismatic colours. Keats could hardly have been more wrong, and my aim is to guide all who are tempted by a similar view to the opposite conclusion. Science is, or ought to be, the inspiration for great poetry...
Basically, a rainbow is beautiful whether or not you understand how it works, but understanding it leads to all sorts of new, exciting and beautiful discoveries about nature.

Bottom line: insisting that the woods need bigfoots to make them more cool ignores just how completely cool the woods are even without BF. It's a failure of imagination and understanding.
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The surfeit of BS that sloshes its way through bigfootery is never ending. It will only get worse as time goes on. More hoops will have to be jumped through in order to maintain bleevership.




Looks like they will just ignore the facts and failings and the lack of beast and go on. Reminds me of another belief system that has no proof to offer.

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The issue of awe vs. understanding is the topic of Richard Dawkins' too-obscure and much underrated book, Unweaving the Rainbow. From the introduction:



Basically, a rainbow is beautiful whether or not you understand how it works, but understanding it leads to all sorts of new, exciting and beautiful discoveries about nature.

Bottom line: insisting that the woods need bigfoots to make them more cool ignores just how completely cool the woods are even without BF. It's a failure of imagination and understanding.
This.
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Melba Ketchum has a book out

https://www.createspace.com/4501337

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When Gracie McKay becomes lost in the Pacific Northwest wilderness, she's rescued by the elusive, magical forest people, an event that hurls her into a dangerous supernatural journey that changes her life forever-and leads her headlong into her destiny.
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Melba Ketchum has a book out

https://www.createspace.com/4501337
Does Gracie ever get "sore?"
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Melba's attempt at a romance novel, and I'm assuming she is going for a Beauty and the Beast angle, is just simply distasteful IMO.

The sad thing about it all is I bet she and her fans don't consider it fiction.
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Melba's attempt at a romance novel, and I'm assuming she is going for a Beauty and the Beast angle, is just simply distasteful IMO.

The sad thing about it all is I bet she and her fans don't consider it fiction.
Sounds like she might have ripped off Avatar.

I dare someone to read it.
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I'm sure Parcher is already through with it.
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