[Moderated] The NYPD and Molten Concrete - Page 22

Jono · 25th April 2013, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by WTC Dust

In your estimation, was there any large amount of fuel that wasn't office furnishings? If so, what do you think it was?

http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php...&postcount=809

Most of the stuff I listed were material known to have been in the offices and stores in the Towers. This should not be surprising, since the buildings were office-buildings afterall. So, we had enormous amounts of such material, and wood, and various chemicals, and oil, and fuel etc. Yet you still handwave it away as a minor/trivial thing?

beachnut · 25th April 2013, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by WTC Dust

In your estimation, was there any large amount of fuel that wasn't office furnishings? If so, what do you think it was?

Really? And who makes the claim they are a scientist and acts like a grade school asking questions a scientist can answer? Who is the scientist?

Plastic burning has 7 to 14 times more energy than TNT.
Wood more energy than TNT.
Paper has more energy, etc..
What is stuff you find in the office? The office materials are vast, and had the heat energy of over 15,000 TONS of TNT.

Over 15,000 TONS of TNT in heat energy - who needs large amounts of fuel that was not office furnishing when the office furnishing had the heat energy of 15,000 TONS of TNT.
Anyone do the math? But if you need some fuel, then cars are parked at the WTC complex - did you think before you asked a silly question a scientist could answer? Any scientist out there?

Gasoline 10 times. The cars parked in the WTC complex... oops, scientist.

Ignore reality and fire, bring out the no plane lies and other fantasy. Unable to comprehend 220 acres of office space contents burning for months. Sure, make up wild and crazy claims, hallucinations about a terrorist event.

Ignoring the energy in an office on fire; desks, paper, wood, plastic, etc, is silly. Your claims offer zero insight on 911 issues. Who is the scientist?

The OP is about yankee451's rant against police and fire fighters. He claims the police and fire fighters made up lies. He has failed; like your no plane claims.

LashL · 25th April 2013, 06:26 PM

Kindly get back to the topic of the thread, please. Thank you in advance for your anticipated cooperation.

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LashL · 26th April 2013, 06:22 PM

Well, initially, I left all of the off topic stuff in place and asked nicely that folks return to the topic of the thread but it appears that more is required to get some of the participants in this thread back on topic. Therefore, this thread is being closed until such time as a Moderator has the time to clean it up and issue infractions and such, as required.

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Locknar · 6th May 2013, 05:30 PM

Posts that were either not civil/polite, off-topic or attacking the arguer vs addressing the argument (ie. rule 0, rule 11, rule 12) have been moved to here:
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=258201
Thread re-opened, on Moderated status for now...how long, time will tell.

Posted By:Locknar

25th April 2013, 11:09 AM	#841
Jono Graduate Poster Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,536	Originally Posted by WTC Dust In your estimation, was there any large amount of fuel that wasn't office furnishings? If so, what do you think it was? http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php...&postcount=809 Most of the stuff I listed were material known to have been in the offices and stores in the Towers. This should not be surprising, since the buildings were office-buildings afterall. So, we had enormous amounts of such material, and wood, and various chemicals, and oil, and fuel etc. Yet you still handwave it away as a minor/trivial thing?
	__________________ "I don't believe I ever saw an Oklahoman who wouldn't fight at the drop of a hat -- and frequently drop the hat himself." - Robert E. Howard Last edited by Jono; 25th April 2013 at 11:11 AM.

25th April 2013, 11:59 AM	#842
beachnut Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Dog House Posts: 19,891	Originally Posted by WTC Dust In your estimation, was there any large amount of fuel that wasn't office furnishings? If so, what do you think it was? Really? And who makes the claim they are a scientist and acts like a grade school asking questions a scientist can answer? Who is the scientist? Plastic burning has 7 to 14 times more energy than TNT. Wood more energy than TNT. Paper has more energy, etc.. What is stuff you find in the office? The office materials are vast, and had the heat energy of over 15,000 TONS of TNT. Over 15,000 TONS of TNT in heat energy - who needs large amounts of fuel that was not office furnishing when the office furnishing had the heat energy of 15,000 TONS of TNT. Anyone do the math? But if you need some fuel, then cars are parked at the WTC complex - did you think before you asked a silly question a scientist could answer? Any scientist out there? Gasoline 10 times. The cars parked in the WTC complex... oops, scientist. Ignore reality and fire, bring out the no plane lies and other fantasy. Unable to comprehend 220 acres of office space contents burning for months. Sure, make up wild and crazy claims, hallucinations about a terrorist event. Ignoring the energy in an office on fire; desks, paper, wood, plastic, etc, is silly. Your claims offer zero insight on 911 issues. Who is the scientist? The OP is about yankee451's rant against police and fire fighters. He claims the police and fire fighters made up lies. He has failed; like your no plane claims.