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Sonny2 · 2nd December 2012, 09:22 PM

The beams reconstitute it into ground pepper for their salads.

tsig · 3rd December 2012, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by mustbeso

I watched a bit of Finding Bigfoot tonight, first I've seen of the new season. Favorite tidbit was the "fact" that pepper spray does not work on bigfoot as it is apparently incapable of sneezing

. This was once again known from eyewitness accounts. The thousands of things they 'know' about bigfoot gets funnier everyday.

Apparently one thing we don't know about BF is what a dead one looks like.

I've watched about 15 minutes of FB and I found out that the best way to find an elusive, secretive woods creature is to barge into the woods with bright lights while making loud yells and pounding on trees.

Mudcat · 3rd December 2012, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by LTC8K6

The rave was to coordinate with the Jack Links commercial that aired during the broadcast, imo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGUshQPL8r4

Having just seen this episode, here are my thoughts on the mater:

The video was showing what was obviously a person, in heavy and dark colored winter gear. It was likely a prank by the kids who shot the film and it got blown way out of proportion.

That Bobo refused to do his usual Bigfoot stand-in and the fact that Renae was able to reproduce it so well points it to being nothing more than a person and indicates that Bobo, at the very least, suspected a prank and illustrates the intentional dishonesty of the show (although not for the first time).

Now, the rave had to have been one of the stupider ideas I've seen carried out on the show, second only to the fireworks show they did. But at least the rave idea didn't carry with it the risk of setting the forest on fire.

Originally Posted by tsig

Apparently one thing we don't know about BF is what a dead one looks like.

I've watched about 15 minutes of FB and I found out that the best way to find an elusive, secretive woods creature is to barge into the woods with bright lights while making loud yells and pounding on trees.

Funny how when I was in the Scouts that these were the things they taught us to do in the woods to keep away wild life.

AttorneyTom · 3rd December 2012, 04:58 PM

"Not only do they enjoy pepper spray on their omniverous coyote herding diet.. they are also impervious to electricity and electrocution ! It most certainly must be their high concentration of ions and lack of negativity which is also known to keep their curiousity levels high. This is why I believe and find Mrs. Murphy's account of the BF peeping into her trailer window to be very credible. Not only were the window smudges just the right height but the ultra violet light DNA smudges were also on the aluminum siding !"

wickie · 3rd December 2012, 09:41 PM

Has anyone seen my butt?

RedRatSnake · 5th December 2012, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by wickie

Has anyone seen my butt?

Speaking of that! Have they ever tried chumming for BF, nothing like a few 5 gallon pails of stinking dead fish and guts to bring the critters around, I heard BF was fond of fish.

wickie · 5th December 2012, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by Slocie's

Speaking of that! Have they ever tried chumming for BF, nothing like a few 5 gallon pails of stinking dead fish and guts to bring the critters around, I heard BF was fond of fish.

OH WAIT, this is a finding bigFOOT thread, my bad, carry on

AttorneyTom · 5th December 2012, 07:44 PM

My only advice is this.. Do not respond ! Baiting !

RedRatSnake · 5th December 2012, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by AttorneyTom

My only advice is this.. Do not respond ! Baiting !

If Wickie is involved you don't have to worry about being baited at all he is just telling us in his way how silly this all is.
What you really have to worry about with him is the smell ~ LOL

Edit : I ask you have some kindness in your heart for the man, he is already overburdened with the ugliest mutt of a dog this world has ever seen.

wickie · 5th December 2012, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by Slocie's

If Wickie is involved you don't have to worry about being baited at all he is just telling us in his way how silly this all is.
What you really have to worry about with him is the smell ~ LOL

Edit : I ask you have some kindness in your heart for the man, he is already overburdened with the ugliest mutt of a dog this world has ever seen.

baiting?, the only baiting I do is....well, never mind.
and leave my mutt alone, it's not her fault her butt is prettier than her face

Axxman300 · 5th December 2012, 09:51 PM

The show is hilarious.

No trail-cams. Nobody has a decent 35mm camera. They're in an area for a few days.

They rarely even look for,let alone find, the alleged tell-tale signs like broken tree branches high up. Yet they convince themselves they're hot on the trail no matter where they go.

The hunting at night is the most worthless aspect of the show, and it makes for half of each episode. If Bigfoot is nocturnal then daytime is the best time to find him because he's sleeping somewhere and not moving.

Why not work a specific area for six months? You know...like biologists do.

Deacondark · 21st January 2013, 05:13 PM

In an odd twist of fate, I met Ranae Holland today. I didn't even go out of my way to do it, she just kind of came walking toward me, and asked where a good place to eat was. I kid you not. Ended up having about a 30 minute conversation with her. She's very nice, extremely likeable, and genuinely funny. Strangely we didn't talk about bigfoot much, although she did assure me that she doesn't believe in it.

I have to say she's a class person. I liked her.

AttorneyTom · 21st January 2013, 07:32 PM

Well.. Other than to say that sounds really.. something.. um.. nice. I dont really know what to say about this encounter ? Good thing I suppose...

Jodie · 21st January 2013, 07:33 PM

That's cool, she seems nice on television. I like the involuntary eyerolls she always does when Matt speaks.

HarryHenderson · 22nd January 2013, 01:26 AM

Of the FB gang, she's the only one that appears to have any measurable intelligence. Which in the wicked world of a warped Finding Bigfoot universe, also translates into her appearing to be the ****** up one.

But seriously, a large part of what makes shows like Storage Wars, Shipping Wars, Moonshiners etc. so interesting, and as successful as they are, isn't the cast or the scripted/contrived aspect - and no doubt a certain amount of that happens on all the 'reality' shows - but the simple idea they're doing something real in the real world. They're really buying storage garages, some of which even contain real hidden treasures. They're really making and distributing liquor in the hills of the Carolinas, and really illegally too. They're really shipping one legged ostriches from here to there and back again. And we know they do all this stuff really because...THEY VIDEO IT AND SHOW THE VIDEO TO US.

Yet somehow on Finding Bigfoot Wars Teen Mom, such a notion of filming the actual subject isn't just passe, but is unlawful prosecutable blasphemy - by the feds no less - if it's even uttered under one's breath while facing any state that Matt Moneymaker, or his tiny peeney, is either in, been to, or is about to go to.

I said feds.

LTC8K6 · 22nd January 2013, 05:48 AM

Originally Posted by HarryHenderson

But seriously, a large part of what makes shows like Storage Wars, Shipping Wars, Moonshiners etc. so interesting, and as successful as they are, isn't the cast or the scripted/contrived aspect - and no doubt a certain amount of that happens on all the 'reality' shows - but the simple idea they're doing something real in the real world. They're really buying storage garages, some of which even contain real hidden treasures. They're really making and distributing liquor in the hills of the Carolinas, and really illegally too. They're really shipping one legged ostriches from here to there and back again. And we know they do all this stuff really because...THEY VIDEO IT AND SHOW THE VIDEO TO US.

Well, none of those reality shows are actually real, or even close, so it's hard to fault FB for that.

They are all mostly scripted and contrived. There's no illegal activity going on in Moonshiners, for example, except for in some of the old footage of Popcorn Sutton.

Very little of what happens in these shows is left to chance.

The real question is whether or not these shows are entertaining. If they are, then people will watch.

Avindair · 22nd January 2013, 10:21 AM

I suppose this is as good a point as any to offer up the reason my wife and I watch "Finding Bigfoot" now: We've turned it into a weekly drinking game.

The "Finding Bigfoot" Drinking Game Rules

Warning: The "Finding Bigfoot" Drinking Game is intended for mature audiences only. In addition, due to the likely level of alcohol that will be consumed during a given 42 minute episode, it is highly recommended that participants consume beverages with only light-to-moderate levels of alcohol. Lastly, the game is intended for participants who are at home, and who have no intention of driving after playing.

In the context of this game, a "drink" is defined as a sip of your beverage.

NOTE: It is recommended that players watch one episode using the "BASIC" rules below, and add another level of rules over a couple of more episodes.

Enjoy!

BASIC RULES:

Take a drink whenever:

Anyone other than Ranae says the word "Squatch."
Any time anyone starts a sentence about Bigfoot with the phrase "We know..."
Any time anyone refers to the weekly location as "Prime Bigfoot habitat."
Any time any of the researchers says "Did you hear that?"
Any time Bobo is used as the Bigfoot stand-in.

INTERMEDIATE RULES:

Take one drink as defined in the BASIC RULES.

Two two drinks whenever:

Renae uses the word "Squatch."
Any time they allow a minor's sighting report to air during a town hall meeting.
Any time any of the people in the town hall are wearing something Bigfoot-related.
Any time everyone in the room agrees that the "witness" is flat-out lying.
Any time you spot the one person in the Town Hall meeting sitting in the back, smiling, and clearly holding back laughter. (Seriously, look for them. This happens almost every week.)

ADVANCED RULES:

Take one or two drinks as defined in the BASIC and ADVANCED RULES.

Take three drinks whever:

Ranae is clearly flabbergasted by one of the believers.
Whenever Matt Monkeymaker actually concedes that the evidence they are observing might NOT be a Bigfoot.
Whenever they actually get a clear, audible response to one of their "howls" or knocks. (Made, almost certainly, by either a PA off-camera or one of the locals screwing with them.)
They find some physical evidence (foot print, hair, etc..)
They refer to their own sightings without providing any details about them whatsoever.

Believe me, folks: It makes the show ever so much easier to take.

Enjoy

RedRatSnake · 22nd January 2013, 08:10 PM

Awesome ~I know that took some time to get together.

I think I would be hammered after the first 20 min~

Tim

HarryHenderson · 28th January 2013, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by LTC8K6

Well, none of those reality shows are actually real, or even close, so it's hard to fault FB for that.

They are all mostly scripted and contrived. There's no illegal activity going on in Moonshiners, for example, except for in some of the old footage of Popcorn Sutton.

Very little of what happens in these shows is left to chance.

The real question is whether or not these shows are entertaining. If they are, then people will watch.

You missed my point completely. I'm not debating the degree of script contrivance, nor the degree of lawfulness. The fact remains Moonshiners isn't local actors pretending to do something that hasn't been done in 100 years. They're doing something they're vastly experienced in, that's very real and very productive. They have apparatus. They buy supplies. They make fire burning wood and propane. They manufacture something. And they distribute something that has mass and weight. Overall, they're engaged in an endeavor that is real. Ergo the term REALITY series. They're not simply running around the countryside waving their arms yelling and screaming (like they do on Finding Bigfoot) and then poof, clear liquid that may or may not be legal ethanol magically appears in their path. Cause that wouldn't be real huh! Perhaps the term 'reality' is what's stumpin ya?

LTC8K6 · 29th January 2013, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by HarryHenderson

You missed my point completely. I'm not debating the degree of script contrivance, nor the degree of lawfulness. The fact remains Moonshiners isn't local actors pretending to do something that hasn't been done in 100 years. They're doing something they're vastly experienced in, that's very real and very productive. They have apparatus. They buy supplies. They make fire burning wood and propane. They manufacture something. And they distribute something that has mass and weight. Overall, they're engaged in an endeavor that is real. Ergo the term REALITY series. They're not simply running around the countryside waving their arms yelling and screaming (like they do on Finding Bigfoot) and then poof, clear liquid that may or may not be legal ethanol magically appears in their path. Cause that wouldn't be real huh! Perhaps the term 'reality' is what's stumpin ya?

Hmmm...yes, they are doing something on Moonshiners. I'm not sure what, though. It certainly isn't making moonshine.

I'm sure the producers buy any supplies seen, and I'm sure that any stills seen are from the prop department, as are most of the vehicles, etc.

Therefore, they must be pretending to make and transport moonshine.

Since we don't see them making moonshine, it's hard to say if they have any idea how to do so, or if what they say makes any sense.

The more I think about it, the more I think there's no actual difference between Moonshiners and Finding Bigfoot or UFO Hunters, etc.

Neither one is doing anything real, imo.

Neither one is actually doing what they claim to be doing.

Same for Storage Wars. No one is actually buying storage lockers on the show. What you see is pretend.

Just like Finding Bigfoot, or UFO Hunters, or whatever.

The "$5K jade dragon statue" in the locker was put there by the producers of the show.

It's not a whole lot different than claiming a deer carcass was a bigfoot victim, imo.

I know that was probably deeper than you wanted to go...but these shows make me want to rant.

There's a scene in Moonshiners where Tickle is riding in the back of a pickup with a "worm" box. The worm box falls out of the back of the truck into the street. I think it's pretty clear that Tickle pushes it out for the scene. But that's just TV...

tsig · 30th January 2013, 03:21 AM

Originally Posted by LTC8K6

Hmmm...yes, they are doing something on Moonshiners. I'm not sure what, though. It certainly isn't making moonshine.

I'm sure the producers buy any supplies seen, and I'm sure that any stills seen are from the prop department, as are most of the vehicles, etc.

Therefore, they must be pretending to make and transport moonshine.

Since we don't see them making moonshine, it's hard to say if they have any idea how to do so, or if what they say makes any sense.

The more I think about it, the more I think there's no actual difference between Moonshiners and Finding Bigfoot or UFO Hunters, etc.

Neither one is doing anything real, imo.

Neither one is actually doing what they claim to be doing.

Same for Storage Wars. No one is actually buying storage lockers on the show. What you see is pretend.

Just like Finding Bigfoot, or UFO Hunters, or whatever.

The "$5K jade dragon statue" in the locker was put there by the producers of the show.

It's not a whole lot different than claiming a deer carcass was a bigfoot victim, imo.

I know that was probably deeper than you wanted to go...but these shows make me want to rant.

There's a scene in Moonshiners where Tickle is riding in the back of a pickup with a "worm" box. The worm box falls out of the back of the truck into the street. I think it's pretty clear that Tickle pushes it out for the scene. But that's just TV...

Well all I know is that if they don't put some pretty gal into a pair of Daisy Dukes they're gonna lose this viewer.

GT/CS · 31st January 2013, 07:12 AM

Looks like the Stooges need to go to Oregon.
http://www.inquisitr.com/496172/bigf...dary-creature/

William Parcher · 31st January 2013, 07:32 AM

Originally Posted by GT/CS

Looks like the Stooges need to go to Oregon.
http://www.inquisitr.com/496172/bigf...dary-creature/

We already have a thread on that.

GT/CS · 31st January 2013, 07:34 AM

Yes we do but it wasn't tagged with Bigfoot so I added the link here.

William Parcher · 31st January 2013, 07:38 AM

I previously did ask the mods to tag it, but they didn't. I just asked again.

Additionally, I had asked the mods to move Cain's new thread to another one in which the Oregon Reservation news was already being discussed. They didn't.

So, at this moment, this exact article is being discussed in 3 different Bigfoot threads.

mustbeso · 4th March 2013, 08:19 AM

I watched 30 to 45 minutes of Finding Bigfoot last night. This was the first time I had tuned in for about a year and nothing has changed but it did make me wonder again when they will actually try a hoax of some kind. They come perilously close with wood knocks, and last night, knocks on a metal structure allegedly by bigfoot. Moneymaker must feel a diminishing cash cow with the debacle of the Ketchum paper and the sillyness of Rick Dyer, et al. That every episode of Finding Bigfoot is the same has to dawn on most people at some point and an infusion of new "evidence" would seem neccesary to keep the viewer base in line.

The Shrike · 4th March 2013, 10:44 AM

^Every episode of Dance Moms is the same, but I keep watching . . .

tsig · 4th March 2013, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by The Shrike

^Every episode of Dance Moms is the same, but I keep watching . . .

Would you if it was Finding Dance Moms and they never found them?

LTC8K6 · 4th March 2013, 01:43 PM

I think people see the show as a sitcom about footers. It's entertaining if you see it as a show making fun of looking for bigfoot.

They've now been looking for quite a while in lots of places and spending lots of time and money and...nothing.

Resume · 4th March 2013, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by LTC8K6

I think people see the show as a sitcom about footers. It's entertaining if you see it as a show making fun of looking for bigfoot.

They've now been looking for quite a while in lots of places and spending lots of time and money and...nothing.

I wouldn't say nothing; there has to be money in it or it wouldn't be on the TV.

Jodie · 4th March 2013, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by The Shrike

^Every episode of Dance Moms is the same, but I keep watching . . .

For some reason, I can't stop watching either....." Living on the Dance Floor!"

LTC8K6 · 4th March 2013, 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by Resume

I wouldn't say nothing; there has to be money in it or it wouldn't be on the TV.

I mean they have found nothing.

Money for the producers, sure.

We've seen lots of money pissed away on bigfoot without a hope of a profit.

River · 4th March 2013, 10:05 PM

It's looking real squatchy in here guys. We should do a night investigation. (cue green led lights and bad cameras)

Jodie · 5th March 2013, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by wickie

Has anyone seen my butt?

Only your cat ass years ago, not the real thing. I show my proverbial ass once in awhile around here, want to see it?

3rd December 2012, 09:54 AM	#1562
tsig a carbon based life-form Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 26,762	Originally Posted by mustbeso I watched a bit of Finding Bigfoot tonight, first I've seen of the new season. Favorite tidbit was the "fact" that pepper spray does not work on bigfoot as it is apparently incapable of sneezing. This was once again known from eyewitness accounts. The thousands of things they 'know' about bigfoot gets funnier everyday. Apparently one thing we don't know about BF is what a dead one looks like. I've watched about 15 minutes of FB and I found out that the best way to find an elusive, secretive woods creature is to barge into the woods with bright lights while making loud yells and pounding on trees.

3rd December 2012, 03:54 PM	#1563
Mudcat Man of a Thousand Memes Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 3,685	Originally Posted by LTC8K6 The rave was to coordinate with the Jack Links commercial that aired during the broadcast, imo. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGUshQPL8r4 Having just seen this episode, here are my thoughts on the mater: The video was showing what was obviously a person, in heavy and dark colored winter gear. It was likely a prank by the kids who shot the film and it got blown way out of proportion. That Bobo refused to do his usual Bigfoot stand-in and the fact that Renae was able to reproduce it so well points it to being nothing more than a person and indicates that Bobo, at the very least, suspected a prank and illustrates the intentional dishonesty of the show (although not for the first time). Now, the rave had to have been one of the stupider ideas I've seen carried out on the show, second only to the fireworks show they did. But at least the rave idea didn't carry with it the risk of setting the forest on fire. Originally Posted by tsig Apparently one thing we don't know about BF is what a dead one looks like. I've watched about 15 minutes of FB and I found out that the best way to find an elusive, secretive woods creature is to barge into the woods with bright lights while making loud yells and pounding on trees. Funny how when I was in the Scouts that these were the things they taught us to do in the woods to keep away wild life.
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3rd December 2012, 04:58 PM	#1564
AttorneyTom Muse Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 883	"Not only do they enjoy pepper spray on their omniverous coyote herding diet.. they are also impervious to electricity and electrocution ! It most certainly must be their high concentration of ions and lack of negativity which is also known to keep their curiousity levels high. This is why I believe and find Mrs. Murphy's account of the BF peeping into her trailer window to be very credible. Not only were the window smudges just the right height but the ultra violet light DNA smudges were also on the aluminum siding !"
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5th December 2012, 07:44 PM	#1568
AttorneyTom Muse Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 883	My only advice is this.. Do not respond ! Baiting !
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5th December 2012, 07:53 PM	#1569
RedRatSnake Slithering Through life Join Date: May 2008 Location: Southie, Massachusetts. Posts: 1,625	Originally Posted by AttorneyTom My only advice is this.. Do not respond ! Baiting ! If Wickie is involved you don't have to worry about being baited at all he is just telling us in his way how silly this all is. What you really have to worry about with him is the smell ~ LOL Edit : I ask you have some kindness in your heart for the man, he is already overburdened with the ugliest mutt of a dog this world has ever seen.
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2nd December 2012, 09:22 PM	#1561
Sonny2 Muse Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Dust on the Wind Posts: 669	The beams reconstitute it into ground pepper for their salads.

3rd December 2012, 09:41 PM	#1565
wickie Student Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: arm pit of cali Posts: 32	Has anyone seen my butt?

5th December 2012, 05:46 PM	#1566
RedRatSnake Slithering Through life Join Date: May 2008 Location: Southie, Massachusetts. Posts: 1,625	Originally Posted by wickie Has anyone seen my butt? Speaking of that! Have they ever tried chumming for BF, nothing like a few 5 gallon pails of stinking dead fish and guts to bring the critters around, I heard BF was fond of fish.

5th December 2012, 07:12 PM	#1567
wickie Student Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: arm pit of cali Posts: 32	Originally Posted by Slocie's Speaking of that! Have they ever tried chumming for BF, nothing like a few 5 gallon pails of stinking dead fish and guts to bring the critters around, I heard BF was fond of fish. OH WAIT, this is a finding bigFOOT thread, my bad, carry on

5th December 2012, 09:24 PM	#1570
wickie Student Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: arm pit of cali Posts: 32	Originally Posted by Slocie's If Wickie is involved you don't have to worry about being baited at all he is just telling us in his way how silly this all is. What you really have to worry about with him is the smell ~ LOL Edit : I ask you have some kindness in your heart for the man, he is already overburdened with the ugliest mutt of a dog this world has ever seen. baiting?, the only baiting I do is....well, never mind. and leave my mutt alone, it's not her fault her butt is prettier than her face

5th December 2012, 09:51 PM	#1571
Axxman300 Scholar Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 113	The show is hilarious. No trail-cams. Nobody has a decent 35mm camera. They're in an area for a few days. They rarely even look for,let alone find, the alleged tell-tale signs like broken tree branches high up. Yet they convince themselves they're hot on the trail no matter where they go. The hunting at night is the most worthless aspect of the show, and it makes for half of each episode. If Bigfoot is nocturnal then daytime is the best time to find him because he's sleeping somewhere and not moving. Why not work a specific area for six months? You know...like biologists do.
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21st January 2013, 05:13 PM	#1572
Deacondark Critical Thinker Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 331	In an odd twist of fate, I met Ranae Holland today. I didn't even go out of my way to do it, she just kind of came walking toward me, and asked where a good place to eat was. I kid you not. Ended up having about a 30 minute conversation with her. She's very nice, extremely likeable, and genuinely funny. Strangely we didn't talk about bigfoot much, although she did assure me that she doesn't believe in it. I have to say she's a class person. I liked her.

21st January 2013, 07:32 PM	#1573
AttorneyTom Muse Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 883	Well.. Other than to say that sounds really.. something.. um.. nice. I dont really know what to say about this encounter ? Good thing I suppose...
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21st January 2013, 07:33 PM	#1574
Jodie Graduate Poster Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,908	That's cool, she seems nice on television. I like the involuntary eyerolls she always does when Matt speaks.
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22nd January 2013, 01:26 AM	#1575
HarryHenderson Muse Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: All up in your business Posts: 706	Of the FB gang, she's the only one that appears to have any measurable intelligence. Which in the wicked world of a warped Finding Bigfoot universe, also translates into her appearing to be the ****** up one. But seriously, a large part of what makes shows like Storage Wars, Shipping Wars, Moonshiners etc. so interesting, and as successful as they are, isn't the cast or the scripted/contrived aspect - and no doubt a certain amount of that happens on all the 'reality' shows - but the simple idea they're doing something real in the real world. They're really buying storage garages, some of which even contain real hidden treasures. They're really making and distributing liquor in the hills of the Carolinas, and really illegally too. They're really shipping one legged ostriches from here to there and back again. And we know they do all this stuff really because...THEY VIDEO IT AND SHOW THE VIDEO TO US. Yet somehow on Finding Bigfoot Wars Teen Mom, such a notion of filming the actual subject isn't just passe, but is unlawful prosecutable blasphemy - by the feds no less - if it's even uttered under one's breath while facing any state that Matt Moneymaker, or his tiny peeney, is either in, been to, or is about to go to. I said feds.
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22nd January 2013, 05:48 AM	#1576
LTC8K6 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Directly under a deadly chemtrail Posts: 12,661	Originally Posted by HarryHenderson But seriously, a large part of what makes shows like Storage Wars, Shipping Wars, Moonshiners etc. so interesting, and as successful as they are, isn't the cast or the scripted/contrived aspect - and no doubt a certain amount of that happens on all the 'reality' shows - but the simple idea they're doing something real in the real world. They're really buying storage garages, some of which even contain real hidden treasures. They're really making and distributing liquor in the hills of the Carolinas, and really illegally too. They're really shipping one legged ostriches from here to there and back again. And we know they do all this stuff really because...THEY VIDEO IT AND SHOW THE VIDEO TO US. Well, none of those reality shows are actually real, or even close, so it's hard to fault FB for that. They are all mostly scripted and contrived. There's no illegal activity going on in Moonshiners, for example, except for in some of the old footage of Popcorn Sutton. Very little of what happens in these shows is left to chance. The real question is whether or not these shows are entertaining. If they are, then people will watch.
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22nd January 2013, 10:21 AM	#1577
Avindair Scholar Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 77	I suppose this is as good a point as any to offer up the reason my wife and I watch "Finding Bigfoot" now: We've turned it into a weekly drinking game. The "Finding Bigfoot" Drinking Game Rules Warning: The "Finding Bigfoot" Drinking Game is intended for mature audiences only. In addition, due to the likely level of alcohol that will be consumed during a given 42 minute episode, it is highly recommended that participants consume beverages with only light-to-moderate levels of alcohol. Lastly, the game is intended for participants who are at home, and who have no intention of driving after playing. In the context of this game, a "drink" is defined as a sip of your beverage. NOTE: It is recommended that players watch one episode using the "BASIC" rules below, and add another level of rules over a couple of more episodes. Enjoy! BASIC RULES: Take a drink whenever: Anyone other than Ranae says the word "Squatch." Any time anyone starts a sentence about Bigfoot with the phrase "We know..." Any time anyone refers to the weekly location as "Prime Bigfoot habitat." Any time any of the researchers says "Did you hear that?" Any time Bobo is used as the Bigfoot stand-in. INTERMEDIATE RULES: Take one drink as defined in the BASIC RULES. Two two drinks whenever: Renae uses the word "Squatch." Any time they allow a minor's sighting report to air during a town hall meeting. Any time any of the people in the town hall are wearing something Bigfoot-related. Any time everyone in the room agrees that the "witness" is flat-out lying. Any time you spot the one person in the Town Hall meeting sitting in the back, smiling, and clearly holding back laughter. (Seriously, look for them. This happens almost every week.) ADVANCED RULES: Take one or two drinks as defined in the BASIC and ADVANCED RULES. Take three drinks whever: Ranae is clearly flabbergasted by one of the believers. Whenever Matt Monkeymaker actually concedes that the evidence they are observing might NOT be a Bigfoot. Whenever they actually get a clear, audible response to one of their "howls" or knocks. (Made, almost certainly, by either a PA off-camera or one of the locals screwing with them.) They find some physical evidence (foot print, hair, etc..) They refer to their own sightings without providing any details about them whatsoever. Believe me, folks: It makes the show ever so much easier to take. Enjoy
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22nd January 2013, 08:10 PM	#1578
RedRatSnake Slithering Through life Join Date: May 2008 Location: Southie, Massachusetts. Posts: 1,625	Awesome ~I know that took some time to get together. I think I would be hammered after the first 20 min~ Tim

28th January 2013, 10:31 PM	#1579
HarryHenderson Muse Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: All up in your business Posts: 706	Originally Posted by LTC8K6 Well, none of those reality shows are actually real, or even close, so it's hard to fault FB for that. They are all mostly scripted and contrived. There's no illegal activity going on in Moonshiners, for example, except for in some of the old footage of Popcorn Sutton. Very little of what happens in these shows is left to chance. The real question is whether or not these shows are entertaining. If they are, then people will watch. You missed my point completely. I'm not debating the degree of script contrivance, nor the degree of lawfulness. The fact remains Moonshiners isn't local actors pretending to do something that hasn't been done in 100 years. They're doing something they're vastly experienced in, that's very real and very productive. They have apparatus. They buy supplies. They make fire burning wood and propane. They manufacture something. And they distribute something that has mass and weight. Overall, they're engaged in an endeavor that is real. Ergo the term REALITY series. They're not simply running around the countryside waving their arms yelling and screaming (like they do on Finding Bigfoot) and then poof, clear liquid that may or may not be legal ethanol magically appears in their path. Cause that wouldn't be real huh! Perhaps the term 'reality' is what's stumpin ya?
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29th January 2013, 09:24 AM	#1580
LTC8K6 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Directly under a deadly chemtrail Posts: 12,661	Originally Posted by HarryHenderson You missed my point completely. I'm not debating the degree of script contrivance, nor the degree of lawfulness. The fact remains Moonshiners isn't local actors pretending to do something that hasn't been done in 100 years. They're doing something they're vastly experienced in, that's very real and very productive. They have apparatus. They buy supplies. They make fire burning wood and propane. They manufacture something. And they distribute something that has mass and weight. Overall, they're engaged in an endeavor that is real. Ergo the term REALITY series. They're not simply running around the countryside waving their arms yelling and screaming (like they do on Finding Bigfoot) and then poof, clear liquid that may or may not be legal ethanol magically appears in their path. Cause that wouldn't be real huh! Perhaps the term 'reality' is what's stumpin ya? Hmmm...yes, they are doing something on Moonshiners. I'm not sure what, though. It certainly isn't making moonshine. I'm sure the producers buy any supplies seen, and I'm sure that any stills seen are from the prop department, as are most of the vehicles, etc. Therefore, they must be pretending to make and transport moonshine. Since we don't see them making moonshine, it's hard to say if they have any idea how to do so, or if what they say makes any sense. The more I think about it, the more I think there's no actual difference between Moonshiners and Finding Bigfoot or UFO Hunters, etc. Neither one is doing anything real, imo. Neither one is actually doing what they claim to be doing. Same for Storage Wars. No one is actually buying storage lockers on the show. What you see is pretend. Just like Finding Bigfoot, or UFO Hunters, or whatever. The "$5K jade dragon statue" in the locker was put there by the producers of the show. It's not a whole lot different than claiming a deer carcass was a bigfoot victim, imo. I know that was probably deeper than you wanted to go...but these shows make me want to rant. There's a scene in Moonshiners where Tickle is riding in the back of a pickup with a "worm" box. The worm box falls out of the back of the truck into the street. I think it's pretty clear that Tickle pushes it out for the scene. But that's just TV...
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30th January 2013, 03:21 AM	#1581
tsig a carbon based life-form Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 26,762	Originally Posted by LTC8K6 Hmmm...yes, they are doing something on Moonshiners. I'm not sure what, though. It certainly isn't making moonshine. I'm sure the producers buy any supplies seen, and I'm sure that any stills seen are from the prop department, as are most of the vehicles, etc. Therefore, they must be pretending to make and transport moonshine. Since we don't see them making moonshine, it's hard to say if they have any idea how to do so, or if what they say makes any sense. The more I think about it, the more I think there's no actual difference between Moonshiners and Finding Bigfoot or UFO Hunters, etc. Neither one is doing anything real, imo. Neither one is actually doing what they claim to be doing. Same for Storage Wars. No one is actually buying storage lockers on the show. What you see is pretend. Just like Finding Bigfoot, or UFO Hunters, or whatever. The "$5K jade dragon statue" in the locker was put there by the producers of the show. It's not a whole lot different than claiming a deer carcass was a bigfoot victim, imo. I know that was probably deeper than you wanted to go...but these shows make me want to rant. There's a scene in Moonshiners where Tickle is riding in the back of a pickup with a "worm" box. The worm box falls out of the back of the truck into the street. I think it's pretty clear that Tickle pushes it out for the scene. But that's just TV... Well all I know is that if they don't put some pretty gal into a pair of Daisy Dukes they're gonna lose this viewer.

31st January 2013, 07:12 AM	#1582
GT/CS Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,591	Looks like the Stooges need to go to Oregon. http://www.inquisitr.com/496172/bigf...dary-creature/
GT/CS Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,591	__________________ SweatyYeti or Bill Munns would be my vote for looking at this - BFSleuth @ BFF I've got plenty of common sense! I just choose to ignore it. - Calvin; October 15, 1986

31st January 2013, 07:32 AM	#1583
William Parcher Show me the monkey! Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 8,504	Originally Posted by GT/CS Looks like the Stooges need to go to Oregon. http://www.inquisitr.com/496172/bigf...dary-creature/ We already have a thread on that.
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31st January 2013, 07:34 AM	#1584
GT/CS Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,591	Yes we do but it wasn't tagged with Bigfoot so I added the link here.
GT/CS Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,591	__________________ SweatyYeti or Bill Munns would be my vote for looking at this - BFSleuth @ BFF I've got plenty of common sense! I just choose to ignore it. - Calvin; October 15, 1986

31st January 2013, 07:38 AM	#1585
William Parcher Show me the monkey! Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 8,504	I previously did ask the mods to tag it, but they didn't. I just asked again. Additionally, I had asked the mods to move Cain's new thread to another one in which the Oregon Reservation news was already being discussed. They didn't. So, at this moment, this exact article is being discussed in 3 different Bigfoot threads.
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4th March 2013, 08:19 AM	#1586
mustbeso Thinker Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 126	I watched 30 to 45 minutes of Finding Bigfoot last night. This was the first time I had tuned in for about a year and nothing has changed but it did make me wonder again when they will actually try a hoax of some kind. They come perilously close with wood knocks, and last night, knocks on a metal structure allegedly by bigfoot. Moneymaker must feel a diminishing cash cow with the debacle of the Ketchum paper and the sillyness of Rick Dyer, et al. That every episode of Finding Bigfoot is the same has to dawn on most people at some point and an infusion of new "evidence" would seem neccesary to keep the viewer base in line.
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4th March 2013, 10:44 AM	#1587
The Shrike Graduate Poster Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: USA Posts: 1,809	^Every episode of Dance Moms is the same, but I keep watching . . .

4th March 2013, 11:02 AM	#1588
tsig a carbon based life-form Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 26,762	Originally Posted by The Shrike ^Every episode of Dance Moms is the same, but I keep watching . . . Would you if it was Finding Dance Moms and they never found them?

4th March 2013, 01:43 PM	#1589
LTC8K6 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Directly under a deadly chemtrail Posts: 12,661	I think people see the show as a sitcom about footers. It's entertaining if you see it as a show making fun of looking for bigfoot. They've now been looking for quite a while in lots of places and spending lots of time and money and...nothing.
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4th March 2013, 01:49 PM	#1590
Resume Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 8,022	Originally Posted by LTC8K6 I think people see the show as a sitcom about footers. It's entertaining if you see it as a show making fun of looking for bigfoot. They've now been looking for quite a while in lots of places and spending lots of time and money and...nothing. I wouldn't say nothing; there has to be money in it or it wouldn't be on the TV.
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4th March 2013, 02:46 PM	#1591
Jodie Graduate Poster Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,908	Originally Posted by The Shrike ^Every episode of Dance Moms is the same, but I keep watching . . . For some reason, I can't stop watching either....." Living on the Dance Floor!"
Jodie Graduate Poster Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,908	__________________ testis unus, testis nullus quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur

4th March 2013, 09:28 PM	#1592
LTC8K6 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Directly under a deadly chemtrail Posts: 12,661	Originally Posted by Resume I wouldn't say nothing; there has to be money in it or it wouldn't be on the TV. I mean they have found nothing. Money for the producers, sure. We've seen lots of money pissed away on bigfoot without a hope of a profit.
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4th March 2013, 10:05 PM	#1593
River Master Poster Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,651	It's looking real squatchy in here guys. We should do a night investigation. (cue green led lights and bad cameras)
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5th March 2013, 05:02 PM	#1594
Jodie Graduate Poster Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,908	Originally Posted by wickie Has anyone seen my butt? Only your cat ass years ago, not the real thing. I show my proverbial ass once in awhile around here, want to see it?
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