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Old 27th May 2012, 02:34 PM   #41
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Originally Posted by Mudcat View Post
He was executed in a private compound I would definitely describe as being a palace.
Was he? How can you be sure? Because the government and lapdog media says so?

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But then again I'm just a below-average American who doesn't own their own place, there are a lot of houses here I would also describe as being palaces.
A palace? Say what? Osama bin Laden's supposed compound looked like a dump to me. Hardly the kind of digs a caveman mastermind super-villain would have been holed up in, I would expect.
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Old 27th May 2012, 03:08 PM   #42
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Originally Posted by OneTrickPoney View Post
Was he? How can you be sure? Because the government and lapdog media says so?
No.

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And you think they're lying, why exactly?

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You've been called out on this numerous time before, but since it has not sunk in yet: News media are mostly privately owned businesses and they seem to enjoy exposing Government corruption.

If the Government was lying about any part about Osama's death and the media knew about it they would run with it.

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A palace? Say what? Osama bin Laden's supposed compound looked like a dump to me.
It has electricity, running water, satellite communications and other such amenities in a country where those are all luxuries. Your argument is invalid.

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Hardly the kind of digs a caveman mastermind super-villain would have been holed up in, I would expect.
Yes, it's too bad that the hideouts bad guys in real life use are nothing like the ones in the comic books... they would be so much easier to find.
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Old 27th May 2012, 06:18 PM   #43
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Originally Posted by SpringHallConvert View Post
And your proof for this claim would consist of what, exactly? What the government and media told you?

Ha, ha, ha! Government Truth to the rescue!
You're confusing yourself.

You said that the gov't had told us a caveman (OBL) was responsible for 9/11.

Others replied that OBL was in fact wealthy and died in a large home, not a cave.

You mock that claim, by pointing out it comes from the gov't and media. But so what? That means the gov't and media didn't tell us that the man responsible was a caveman!

So, regardless of whether we ought to believe the gov't or not, your original claim is plainly false. No one is claiming 9/11 was caused by a caveman.

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Old 27th May 2012, 06:24 PM   #44
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So, regardless of whether we ought to believe the gov't or not, your original claim is plainly false. No one is claiming 9/11 was caused by a caveman.
We've explained to them in detail why their claim is complete ******** in their thread here but not only did they not listen to anyone or come even close to being able to defend their position but they also declared victory.

Special, hey?
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Congratulations on encountering one of the many hundreds, if not thousands, of disinformation agents on YouTube.

You got owned.
So the disinformation agents are people who post stuff in support of conspiracy theories that is so overwhelmingly stupid that it discredits the conspiracy theories. How much do you guys get paid for that, anyway?
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